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Tataki Wisako
Trans-Solar Works FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: DaiTengu Why do you pubbies self destruct or eject from your ships when you're going to die?
To deny the winners their killmail.
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 09/06/2008 12:39:57 Self Destruct is such a pansy move it's pathetic. I don't have any respect for pilots who do it.
I self destructed a Vexor outside a station once to get Insurance, does this mean I got no respect from you?
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Sariyah
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:48:00 -
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Oh, you do get insurance money from self-destruct? Isn't that insurance fraud?
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DREAMWORKS
Jion Keanturi FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:56:00 -
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Wel done ****oohead.
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Zulu Six
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: DaiTengu Something that's been bothering me for a long time, and I've never gotten a straight answer to.
Why do you pubbies self destruct or eject from your ships when you're going to die?
Because god forbid they have to post a capital ship lossmail and:
a: screw up their killboard's K:D ratio and look less leet; b: screw up their killboard's isk efficiency ratio and look less leet; c: expose their terrible and/or cheap carrier fit and look less leet; d: all of the above.
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Zulu Six
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Inertial
Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 09/06/2008 12:39:57 Self Destruct is such a pansy move it's pathetic. I don't have any respect for pilots who do it.
I self destructed a Vexor outside a station once to get Insurance, does this mean I got no respect from you?
It's only bad when it's in combat. There's nothing wrong with SD'ing for insurance when not in the middle of a fight. It's only when it's to avoid giving up a loss mail and a lootable wreck that it's ghey.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:00:00 -
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I think self-destruct prevents any modules from dropping as loot or something ;\ totally lame game mechanic
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Lord KesH
Nymphetamine Junkies Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I think self-destruct prevents any modules from dropping as loot or something ;\ totally lame game mechanic
As well as it could be said. ------------------------------------
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Qipchak
Jion Keanturi FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:14:00 -
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I dont know why they blew up their ships. Everyday they pop with 10 BS single players in a Gate Camp, they answer the whining player "That¦s Eve" and "lol n00b". And now they cant loose ships theirself? And moreover, you complain about the fact we attack with more ships. I can only say "That¦s EvE"
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Alazais
Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I think self-destruct prevents any modules from dropping as loot or something ;\ totally lame game mechanic
Afaik, we got loot from all 3 carriers.
Whether this was the intended effect or a bug I don't know. That said, fighters were out, which makes up much of it anyway. I don't know if there would have been more loot or not without a self-destruct. I do remember in the past that self-destructing prevented the appearance of a can - though I had impression that since the introduction of wrecks (which appear regardless of whether you self-destruct or not) you can get loot from self-destructs. Whether the loot table changes, or whether it applies to both capital/non-capital, I have no idea.
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Alazais
Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lord KesH Just to give my side of the story :)
1. Sorry for the smack in local afterwards, but you know we cant help it when its you ^^
2. The whole carrier thing was a quite funny story ^^ And here is what actually happened. (from our point of view)
We were sitting at a gate being nice and sweet like we usually are. Killing the odd ship now and then. Suddently a FDN Abaddon? i think it was jumped in, and we started shooting, bumping and what everyone knows you need to do to kill something. Anyways, he pops a cyno (not unexpected form FDN) and in comes 2 carriers, so here we were thinking, "could this be the day that fdn comes in to fight us in a fair fight" Well more or less we decided that while we were taking gate gun fire and so on we could just as well warp in a few carriers to match theirs - ok we had 1 more than you that actually made it to the gate.
Never the less we pop the abaddon fairly fast. But then the thing happens - up goes a new cyno. But oh wait the new cyno ship is a carrier. We know we cant pop that in time before we get jumped so at this point everyone is aligned out. Hello there 5 more carries to help FDN. We get some/most of the ships out and the falcons stay behind to help get the carriers out.
So here i am with something like 3 points and 2 webs on me thinking this is not gonna work out. Then the second part of their fleet comes in. And we agree that we know that we are gonna loose our carriers. So we iniciate self destruct :)
Then here is the part i found a bit funny - Somehow 2 of the carries looses lock on me and im sitting at 20% Armor - "Not structure btw" :) - And the falcons do a great job of jamming the last one that has a point on me, so i warp out. so as you all know that about 1 minute and 50 seconds before i warp out the self destruct was initiated. So im in a bit of panic when i cant find the Self destruct thing while im in warp. Then im told that its not accessible while in warp and im thinking this is NOT good. I land on the station and as soon as my ship is out of warp im trying to abort the self destruct. But nope that wasnt the case - my ship blows up as i land on station and im in my pod.
So all in all it was a fun fight, allthou we lost some ships which everyone does in the game. Outnumbered again but you must give us credit for trying ^^
Ships involved in the fight. (Taken from battlesummary from FDN killboard - as our is messed up because we had kills before fdn came) We had/They had
Carriers: 3 - 7 BS : 4 - 10 CS : 0 - 1 BC : 1 - 4 HICS : 1 - 2 Hacs : 1 - 1 Recons : 2 - 3 Smallish: 0 - 2
Summary: gf guys - we will be seeing you around ^^
gf
Thanks for the post. And remember, being said to have Baldric on your ship is a perverse honour anyway :) What's Eve without a cunning plan?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Alazais
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I think self-destruct prevents any modules from dropping as loot or something ;\ totally lame game mechanic
Afaik, we got loot from all 3 carriers.
Whether this was the intended effect or a bug I don't know. That said, fighters were out, which makes up much of it anyway. I don't know if there would have been more loot or not without a self-destruct. I do remember in the past that self-destructing prevented the appearance of a can - though I had impression that since the introduction of wrecks (which appear regardless of whether you self-destruct or not) you can get loot from self-destructs. Whether the loot table changes, or whether it applies to both capital/non-capital, I have no idea.
I hope you're right would mean CCP fixed one of my pet peeves \o/
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Hexman
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:33:00 -
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self destructing to avoid the km is bad, mkay?
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:50:00 -
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People who self-destruct cap ships suck.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lord KesH
So here i am with something like 3 points and 2 webs on me thinking this is not gonna work out. Then the second part of their fleet comes in. And we agree that we know that we are gonna loose our carriers. So we iniciate self destruct :)
What the hell are you doing in a carrier?
I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them. |
Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:30:00 -
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Nice story. Got just the right amount of smack, without going gaga over the punchline.
The Self-Destruct outcome is particularily hilarious. While I hope I'll never reach for the Big Red Button myself, I find it a valid tactic. My reasoning is that since the Gankers and ****ers want the Killmail so bad, denying them the mail is a way to salvage something from an otherwise untenable situation.
Good to know that you can't cancel self-destruct in warp. Thanks for spending the 2 Bill to teach me that lesson.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:40:00 -
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Regardless of how bad someone wants ytou dead, you agree to the chance of dying everytime you undock. It's nothing but lame, and extremely lame if you self-destruct in a combat situation with the only intention to deny them the mail.
I refuse to respect religious beliefs, and i refuse to respect people who hold them. |
Captain Shocker
eXtended Corporation 24
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:49:00 -
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Isnt suicide a sin?
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JS LiamElms
Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:06:00 -
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fair tactic or not.. its still making me smiling thinking about the amount of emotions within that brief moment... -he actually made warp (epic thrill to make it out alive)... -oh sh!!! (freak out hoping that he can cancel intime)... -8ugger (major downer knowing he lost his ebil carrier)
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Rick Rothsar
Ghosts of Ragnarok
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:13:00 -
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Nicely done FDN.
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:23:00 -
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Great story! Sounds like people are having alot of fun, good to hear!
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Wylker
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:29:00 -
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Yeah well done, I'm sure it takes a lot of planning and brains to drop 7-10 capital ships in every single engagement. Your skill is rivaled only by your brains.
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Jackaryas
Trans-Solar Works FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:30:00 -
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Yay go FDN
Was a GF excelent posting as always alazais Join us |
FOFOFOF
CRAPSTORM
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ganked Noob Yeah well done, I'm sure it takes a lot of planning and brains to drop 7-10 battle ships in every single gate engagement. Your skill is rivaled only by your brains.
m8, you do gank noobs at camps, why cry when the noobs gank you?
That's EVE, get used to it. Just say gf and move on...
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Wylker
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.09 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: FOFOFOF
Originally by: Ganked Noob Yeah well done, I'm sure it takes a lot of planning and brains to drop 7-10 battle ships in every single gate engagement. Your skill is rivaled only by your brains.
m8, you do gank noobs at camps, why cry when the noobs gank you?
That's EVE, get used to it. Just say gf and move on...
It's ok, we know what to expect, and we always make the choice to engage. Its just amazing to me how they pat themselves on the back about it.
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Wylker Yeah well done, I'm sure it takes a lot of planning and brains to drop 7-10 capital ships in every single engagement. Your skill is rivaled only by your brains.
Why so bitter? It was a good story, with a funny ending...its supposed to be fun...you are starting to sound like one of those people you scammed.
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Wylker
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.09 17:14:00 -
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Actually I meant to give props to the OP for how he wrote his writeup. And who got scammed? I refunded everyone.
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The RedPlague
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.09 17:38:00 -
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@ Lord Kesh ... Self destruct is the kid playing basketball taking HIS ball home when things don't go his way ... YOU PU$$Y
Cheers,
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Wylker
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.09 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: The RedPlague @ Lord Kesh ... Self destruct is the kid playing basketball taking HIS ball home when things don't go his way ... YOU PU$$Y
You tell him Federal Navy Academy guy!
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Eric Nolani
Game-Over Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.09 18:20:00 -
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Cute female lieutenants should be standard features on carrier bridges! ------------------------------------------- ôDoesnÆt it **** you off to be beat at your own game!ö û MUDVAYNE æSilencedÆ |
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