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Anton Marvik
AnTi.
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.06.13 04:43:00 -
[331]
 Originally by: Illaria
Originally by: Anton Marvik
Two more and we'll hit 100. \o/
Then better hurry up and make some more alts. 
I only have 97 alts. 
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Rudy Giuliani
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Posted - 2008.06.13 05:21:00 -
[332]
Showing support for this topic, Jade is an embarrassment.
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Canada eh
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:16:00 -
[333]
Edited by: Canada eh on 13/06/2008 06:17:01
Number 100 \0/
Seriously though, Jade needs to get a clue
Oh and page 12 snypa 
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Flodarian
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:19:00 -
[334]
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Momo chan
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:20:00 -
[335]
O ya
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MinerChick
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:21:00 -
[336]
I can get behind this
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Lady Starfire
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:22:00 -
[337]
This is democracy not a jadeocracy. |
Momochanchan
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:24:00 -
[338]
I like peaches. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.13 06:29:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Negative. Basically its part of our job to ignore nonsense posts. 200 supports on a nonsense issue are worth less than 1 support on a good issue. Sorry to disappoint you but threadnaughts simply mean nothing when you bring a little bit of good analysis to the table. Thats why no post like this will be advocated in good faith by a CSM delegate. A) it brings nothing to the game, and B) it would be embarrassing the CSM delegate to bring such a motion and have it voted down on the public record wasting time better alloted for decent issues.
I'll accept you throwing away obvious parody threads - if Monster Trucks got 10999 votes, it still shouldn't see the light of day. But this isn't an obvious parody, it's a serious request, and it's being taken seriously by most of the voters. But then, maybe my Gordon Brown analogy in the other thread was apt after all. The Treaty of Lisbon doesn't need a vote, after all - we've seen what can happen when voters get a chance to say "no" to their betters  |
Dumah Tace
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 07:24:00 -
[340]
Yes. In on this.
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Kitoba
Legion of Dynamic Discord
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Posted - 2008.06.13 08:11:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Latest meeting of the CSM
You know, if it wasn't for you voting, in this very meeting, for the possibility of the council electing someone else instead of you I would consider seconding this motion. They don't seem to hate you enough to actually do it, though.
That log makes for some good lulz.
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Grismar
The Establishment
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Posted - 2008.06.13 08:21:00 -
[342]
If anything, this thread proves we -need- voting against a proposition. I'm sure Jade has quite a few supporters who are frustrated they can't outvote the Goons here.
Fly well and have fun,
Grismar. |
fuze
InfoMorph Services Ltd
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Posted - 2008.06.13 09:04:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Courthouse
EDIT: ...and he didn't even do that. A quorum of 7 is not a quorum of 9 as the CSM document states is needed.
Didn't see Serenity either so guess that was a quorum of 6.
But that meeting went way smoother.
So next step would be a smooth meeting with all 9 members.
And to the goons. Tone down and wait how things pan out for a few meetings since CSM actually might have taken the clue not to slip up again. |
Petter Sandstad
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:07:00 -
[344]
Supported, this is not the effective way to run a meeting.
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SunglassesInSpace
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:26:00 -
[345]
Chairperson is not an emperor.
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Ilvan
Post with your Brain
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:45:00 -
[346]
Can this self-important drama queen.
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In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only lag |
Bethesda Vortarhiat
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Posted - 2008.06.13 12:49:00 -
[347]
remove Jade!
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Courthouse
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:20:00 -
[348]
Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Courthouse
EDIT: ...and he didn't even do that. A quorum of 7 is not a quorum of 9 as the CSM document states is needed.
Didn't see Serenity either so guess that was a quorum of 6.
But that meeting went way smoother.
So next step would be a smooth meeting with all 9 members.
And to the goons. Tone down and wait how things pan out for a few meetings since CSM actually might have taken the clue not to slip up again.
Oh, so you didn't read the notes and decided to come post here.... That's fine, I went ahead and read the log for you. See, if you had read it you'd see that it called up an alternate for Serenity being absent, but it convienantly neglected to call on alternates for Bane or Darius.
So, a 9 member quorum, with 3 members absent and one alternate called in means we have a quorum of....
7.
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fuze
InfoMorph Services Ltd
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:31:00 -
[349]
Goon teaching me math?
Oh noes, the sky is falling!
I did read. Before my 1st cup of java that is.
My bad. Please except my most humble apologies.
And you're right. The 2 representatives missing part could use some moar explanation.
Btw I still think goons should tone down a bit. Even though they don't like Jade its the voters who make it he deserves a decent chance of making this work. (And I sure am not one of them btw) |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:31:00 -
[350]
Originally by: Courthouse
Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Courthouse
EDIT: ...and he didn't even do that. A quorum of 7 is not a quorum of 9 as the CSM document states is needed.
Didn't see Serenity either so guess that was a quorum of 6.
But that meeting went way smoother.
So next step would be a smooth meeting with all 9 members.
And to the goons. Tone down and wait how things pan out for a few meetings since CSM actually might have taken the clue not to slip up again.
Oh, so you didn't read the notes and decided to come post here.... That's fine, I went ahead and read the log for you. See, if you had read it you'd see that it called up an alternate for Serenity being absent, but it convienantly neglected to call on alternates for Bane or Darius.
So, a 9 member quorum, with 3 members absent and one alternate called in means we have a quorum of....
7.
Yeah, except that the CSM document specifies that 7 is the quorum. They prefer 9, but 7 is sufficient. |
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:32:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Courthouse
Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Courthouse
EDIT: ...and he didn't even do that. A quorum of 7 is not a quorum of 9 as the CSM document states is needed.
Didn't see Serenity either so guess that was a quorum of 6.
But that meeting went way smoother.
So next step would be a smooth meeting with all 9 members.
And to the goons. Tone down and wait how things pan out for a few meetings since CSM actually might have taken the clue not to slip up again.
Oh, so you didn't read the notes and decided to come post here.... That's fine, I went ahead and read the log for you. See, if you had read it you'd see that it called up an alternate for Serenity being absent, but it convienantly neglected to call on alternates for Bane or Darius.
So, a 9 member quorum, with 3 members absent and one alternate called in means we have a quorum of....
7.
Fortunately we had a ruling from CCP! Yay.
Quote:
a) Alternate attendance.
Should a Representative be unavailable, either not showing up (with a prior notification or not), having to leave early or experiencing technical difficulties an Alternate is to step in. The council is to be manned by 9 people at all times û and 9 people should always vote; the exception being when all representatives and alternates have been contacted and a meeting of 7 people is the only attendance that can be mustered.
And since the meeting was publicized and everyone was invited, both from the public forum thread and the in-game channel. And we managed to get a combination of 6 reps and 1 alternate we had a valid meeting.
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fuze
InfoMorph Services Ltd
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:43:00 -
[352]
So the meeting of 7 euros was approved by CCP standards. But what about the 2 US ones? Will there be meetings of 7 all the time?
I'm just asking since this might goons worked up a bit which I think isn't all too strange.
Also could be some private stuff we don't have to know. Anywayz..... |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:50:00 -
[353]
Originally by: fuze
So the meeting of 7 euros was approved by CCP standards. But what about the 2 US ones? Will there be meetings of 7 all the time?
I'm just asking since this might goons worked up a bit which I think isn't all too strange.
Also could be some private stuff we don't have to know. Anywayz.....
On the whole I'll try to pick meeting times that the majority of CSM reps can commit to attending without too many problems. Weekends are probably the best for this. But its worth everyone calming down a bit and realizing that there are going to be ALOT of meetings in this session and its not disastrous if people miss couple here and there. Everyone goes on holiday and sometimes things come up. I'm certainly going to miss some and Serenity will be filling in as vice chair. Its very good that we can count meetings with 7 reps valid otherwise we would have some real problems in the long term.
There's nothing "private" about this - we had a deadline and needed to vote on some multi item issues otherwise they coudn't get on the iceland conference agenda.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
Sigul Siento
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:54:00 -
[354]
Hear, hear.
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Cathy Sakai
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:55:00 -
[355]
Hearing.
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Darius JOHNSON
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:59:00 -
[356]
Originally by: fuze
But that meeting went way smoother.
So next step would be a smooth meeting with all 9 members.
See: Meeting #2. This has already been accomplished. The ongoing drama were a direct result of actions taken, not of an inability for people to get along. |
Courthouse
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:05:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
On the whole I'll try to pick meeting times that the majority of CSM reps can commit to attending without too many problems. Weekends are probably the best for this. But its worth everyone calming down a bit and realizing that there are going to be ALOT of meetings in this session and its not disastrous if people miss couple here and there. Everyone goes on holiday and sometimes things come up. I'm certainly going to miss some and Serenity will be filling in as vice chair. Its very good that we can count meetings with 7 reps valid otherwise we would have some real problems in the long term.
There's nothing "private" about this - we had a deadline and needed to vote on some multi item issues otherwise they coudn't get on the iceland conference agenda.
Which obviously was both too important to have all members present for, and not important enough for you to extend any timezone courtesies to the US representatives who clearly would have been at work at the time. |
fuze
InfoMorph Services Ltd
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:04:00 -
[358]
Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
See: Meeting #2. This has already been accomplished. The ongoing drama were a direct result of actions taken, not of an inability for people to get along.
I beg to differ. Anyway I agree Jade was involved in several welp moments. But the way some others reacted wasn't top notch either. Guess what, people frack up sometimes.
For the sake of it lets assume Jade learned something useful. And I do hope the next meeting will include all members.
You don't have to like or even trust each other. As long if you work through the agenda and do your work its OK.
Just remember that there are many people watching over your shoulders. |
Darius JOHNSON
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:20:00 -
[359]
Originally by: fuze
I beg to differ. Anyway I agree Jade was involved in several welp moments. But the way some others reacted wasn't top notch either. Guess what, people frack up sometimes.
For the sake of it lets assume Jade learned something useful. And I do hope the next meeting will include all members.
You don't have to like or even trust each other. As long if you work through the agenda and do your work its OK.
Just remember that there are many people watching over your shoulders.
I don't disagree with that. People are people and screw up sometimes. Meeting #2 was well organized and expedient and 3 was a fiasco. From what I've read last night's meeting went back to the organized kind and I'll be happy to be a part of any meeting of the sort where people are able to speak their minds on the issues at hand and participate. |
Allaria Kriss
Elipse Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 18:26:00 -
[360]
Obligatory Jade-hate comment: This post now has twice the support of Jade's destructible outposts idea and his alliance-mate's 0.0 sovereignty redesign combined.
Real thoughts: Let's wait for the next meeting flip-out before passing judgment. As much as I may dislike Jade, everyone deserves at least one f-up. Now Jade knows what the voters expect him to act like, so if he screws up again, it's not for lack of knowing what we expect. THEN we can vote to get rid of him. |
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