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Yorda
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:30:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Inanna Zuni
Originally by: Pnuka
The fact a goon wasn't muted or warned first is going to really open some eyes I think.
One person has commented to me that they wondered whether that was because I have made it very clear I am not on the CSM as a representative of my corp / alliance and so wouldn't wardec Jade's lot.
"You might say that, I couldn't possibly comment" is all I can say.
IZ
Yeah you are having a laugh to be honest. To say we'd welcome a wardec from the silly goons would be understating the case. There is no force in this game scares us in Empire Wars Inanna. So cut the silly insinuations - it makes you look foolish.
Jade brings up a valuable point. In empire wars the enemies can just sit in the stations and there's really nothing you can do about it (in 0.0 you can blow up the pos and just take the station).
I think we need to rectify this by making all outposts destructible.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:31:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Theramin Dogon
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Nah, removing Jade is as counterproductive as allowing the council to simply re-elect chair and members.
Whatever happens CCP will claim it was a success as part of their ham-handed philosophy of player content as king.
Why would you have to re-elect anyone? Just give the person with the second-most votes (Hardin) the chair and give the first alternate a seat on the council.
The re-elect idea was a Jade proposal that seems to be all the rage. v0v
Before Jade thought he would win he said whatever chairman got elected should step down and put it to a vote. After he won he said it was not within the chairman's scope to determine whether or not he could resign (wtf?????) and that CCP would have to rule on it.
In conclusion, I support this measure
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:31:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Yorda
In empire wars the enemies can just sit in the stations and there's really nothing you can do about it...
Lol you wish.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:32:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
it makes you look foolish.
As compared to stealth bomber fleets attacking dreadnoughts?
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Slapdash McGinty
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:52:00 -
[35]
Jade is completely out of control.
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Luciela Darkfall
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:54:00 -
[36]
I hoped he would calm down or assume a more mature posture.
I was wrong. Jade really is feeling like he is some sort of god.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:55:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 09/06/2008 20:55:31
Originally by: Luciela Darkfall
I hoped he would calm down or assume a more mature posture.
I was wrong. Jade really is feeling like he is some sort of god.
Hey weren't you the goon alt who said she'd rather vote for Sirmolle than me in the election! Smooth.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
Rumours
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:55:00 -
[38]
Jade has gone mad with a moderate amount of power. It's actions to this point are inexcusable.
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Furb Killer
USC Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:02:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Furb Killer on 09/06/2008 21:05:57
Honestly, is this some kind of goon campaign to get a goon as chairman?
No doubt jade made errors, and would be nice when he would admit he did. But people act like the world is going to end.
This happened all after 3:30 hours behind eve to chat with a group others. With eve chat so you have to split what you want to say in several posts, and meanwhile others do the same so everything is one large pile of garbage. Not to mention people keep writing stuff when they should sh ut up. And then additionally after 3:30 hours and you want to finish it people also have the urgent need to try to make funny remarks which arent funny.
I dont agree with what jade did, but i can understand why he did it.
Thread goes to goon level orange, next level is red. When red is reached, CCP will initiate total forum lock down and say it has to do with expansion deployment 
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Luciela Darkfall
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:03:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Luciela Darkfall on 09/06/2008 21:04:40
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 09/06/2008 20:55:31
Originally by: Luciela Darkfall
I hoped he would calm down or assume a more mature posture.
I was wrong. Jade really is feeling like he is some sort of god.
Hey weren't you the goon alt who said she'd rather vote for Sirmolle than me in the election! Smooth.
Hey aren't you the old man who roleplays a female sex-slave, is trolling a tread just because some people disagree with your childish posture, behaves like a dictator and wants to change the game to suit your own way because after a long hiatus you found out you can't even assault any space anymore with your stealth bombers, and is bitter/passive agressive enough to remember the name of every one who criticizes you!
Hairy.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:04:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Furb Killer
Honestly, is this some kind of goon campaign to get a goon as chairman?
Yes I'm rather afraid it is. Get used to goon threadnaughts until they get their way.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
MirrorGod
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:04:00 -
[42]
Remove Ankakarebearfail from chair!!! \0/
Recruitment: [ANTI]
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jBusy
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:05:00 -
[43]
Edited by: jBusy on 09/06/2008 21:05:53
Sir Molle is the only true Internet god king of eve. I will not allow Jade Constantine to usurp his title!
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Anton Marvik
AnTi.
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:05:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Yes I'm rather afraid it is. Get used to goon threadnaughts until they get their way.
Because I'm obviously a Goon, right? Moron.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:06:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Luciela Darkfall
... and is bitter/passive agressive enough to remember the name of every one who critizes you!
[Protip!]
I actually clicked on your little avatar and saw that amongst your handful of previous posts there were ones flaming me. Nifty eh!
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
Luciela Darkfall
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:07:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Luciela Darkfall
... and is bitter/passive agressive enough to remember the name of every one who critizes you!
[Protip!]
I actually clicked on your little avatar and saw that amongst your handful of previous posts there were ones flaming me. Nifty eh!
Why don't you mute me about it?
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Furb Killer
USC Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:08:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Anton Marvik
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Yes I'm rather afraid it is. Get used to goon threadnaughts until they get their way.
Because I'm obviously a Goon, right? Moron.
Welcome to the real world, you are not everyone. Look arround, 90% here is goon or alt (which is probably goon alt, but hard to determine). Now goons may have tendency to post quite much, but not this much in the average topic.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:09:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 09/06/2008 21:17:49
Originally by: Luciela Darkfall
Why don't you mute me about it?
Either that, or I dunno, here's a Mr Slippy's wild ride of adventures grade idea I'm just throwing out here ...
Maybe you could post with your main?
(if you haven't done so earlier in the thread already that is)
Oops my bad given away another goon protip for influencing the support totals there boys and girls.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
Meteor Crash
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:10:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Meteor Crash on 09/06/2008 21:11:31
I support this. I am not pleased with the chairman, and this whole situation is extremely awkward 
If nothing happens, I hope the community will choose someone better next time.
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Darius JOHNSON
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:12:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Furb Killer
Because I'm obviously a Goon, right? Moron.
Welcome to the real world, you are not everyone. Look arround, 90% here is goon or alt (which is probably goon alt, but hard to determine). Now goons may have tendency to post quite much, but not this much in the average topic.
Goons have no restrictions on their posting. There's no need to use an alt. v0v
It's certainly easier though to demonize everyone else and insinuate there's some form of organized campaign. It's way easier than accepting responsibility for example.
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Anton Marvik
AnTi.
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:14:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Anton Marvik on 09/06/2008 21:18:12
Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
It's way easier than accepting responsibility for example.
Which is the primary reason for this proposal. Its hard to have faith that someone will stop making mistakes when that person pretends no mistakes were made and its all some sort of tinfoil-hat conspiracy.
Furthermore, the trolling Jade is currently doing throughout Assembly Hall threads is endemic of his overall lack of professionalism.
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teji
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:14:00 -
[52]
Quote:
Because I'm obviously a Goon, right? Moron.
Goons take the blame for everything regardless of if they have anything to do with it.
CCP really screwed up without setting some ground rules for this sandbox before they handed it off to the CSM children to play in. Now it's take whatever power you can and blame goons for anything you don't agree with. Because goons are bad right? right?
Too bad Hardin didn't get the most votes at least I have some confidence in him to be a bit more mature. Oh and I support this motion.
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Luciela Darkfall
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:26:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Luciela Darkfall on 09/06/2008 21:29:46
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 09/06/2008 21:17:49
Originally by: Luciela Darkfall
Why don't you mute me about it?
Either that, or I dunno, here's a Mr Slippy's wild ride of adventures grade idea I'm just throwing out here ...
Maybe you could post with your main?
(if you haven't done so earlier in the thread already that is)
Oops my bad given away another goon protip for influencing the support totals there boys and girls.
That's absolutely no problem whatsoever:
http://glowfalls.com/eve_ships/
This is my "main"'s post. I'll leave there only until my next update because, unlike you, I like to keep my work neutral. It can't "influence the support totals", but is definitely more coherent than what you've been doing.
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Gorfob
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 22:00:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Gorfob on 09/06/2008 22:01:51
Indeed.
Originally by: Furb Killer
Edited by: Furb Killer on 09/06/2008 21:05:57
Honestly, is this some kind of goon campaign to get a goon as chairman?
No because holy crap have you seen our forums and the moderating that goes on there? A cork hat would do a better job than Jade and a slightly better job than a goon.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.09 22:51:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Furb Killer
Honestly, is this some kind of goon campaign to get a goon as chairman?
Yes I'm rather afraid it is. Get used to goon threadnaughts until they get their way.
I'd quit Eve before I joined the Goons, and I'd probably wind up disliking Darius as Chair almost as much as I do you. Bane seems like he could be okay, but I'm hardly confident of that. But given the number of non-Goons in on this "Jade's a tyrant" bandwagon, you'd think you could at least attribute it to something other than a mysterious "conspiracy".
And besides - even if a Goon did get the Chair, what would happen then? They're bloody anarchists! It's not like the role gives them power, because whatever power it does have they'd refuse to use.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.09 22:58:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
I'd quit Eve before I joined the Goons, and I'd probably wind up disliking Darius as Chair almost as much as I do you. Bane seems like he could be okay, but I'm hardly confident of that. But given the number of non-Goons in on this "Jade's a tyrant" bandwagon, you'd think you could at least attribute it to something other than a mysterious "conspiracy".
And besides - even if a Goon did get the Chair, what would happen then? They're bloody anarchists! It's not like the role gives them power, because whatever power it does have they'd refuse to use.
You are a fickle man Herschel Yamamoto. Lets see what the future brings.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |
Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 23:03:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
I'd quit Eve before I joined the Goons, and I'd probably wind up disliking Darius as Chair almost as much as I do you. Bane seems like he could be okay, but I'm hardly confident of that. But given the number of non-Goons in on this "Jade's a tyrant" bandwagon, you'd think you could at least attribute it to something other than a mysterious "conspiracy".
And besides - even if a Goon did get the Chair, what would happen then? They're bloody anarchists! It's not like the role gives them power, because whatever power it does have they'd refuse to use.
You are a fickle man Herschel Yamamoto. Lets see what the future brings.
Actually what he is expressing is a neutral objective view.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.09 23:10:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 09/06/2008 23:10:14
Originally by: Jade Constantine
You are a fickle man Herschel Yamamoto.
Not especially. I voted for you because I liked your vision for the game. I still do - I think there's a few flaws in the implementation, but most of what you outlined I still want to see.
My objections are to your actions as Chair, not to your actions as a member. I haven't said anything at all against your being on the Council, or you bringing forward your platform commitments to the Council. I just find your actions as Chair appalling. I want you out of the Chair and still on the Council - I don't think I've said anything that would go against that at any point. I know I stood against the no confidence topic when it was new, but that's because it looked like an attempt to kick you out for reasons of personal dislike. Abuse of power is a whole different ball game.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.09 23:33:00 -
[59]
Nope. I don't this all the choises he has made are perfect but considering what he has been up against (and I'm not talking about the goons or anything like that rather the lack of support from CCP) I think he has done a resonable job of it.
Biased? yes of course.
Overly so? No not really. I'll happy tell him he sucks if he does ;)
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Nashtak
Neoteric War Syndicate
Lex Talionis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 23:35:00 -
[60]
I didn't pay attention to the CSM or any political aspect of the game (0.0 wars and huge alliance) but i'm pretty sure the chairman shouldn't be posting here.
I thought the CSM was supposed to add a political aspect to the game and now that something goes wrong, instead of thinking this through, everyone just start ranting over it?
I don't think the chairman is the only thing out of control right now.
This whole thing is gotta be a joke.
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