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Kale Ryoko
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.12 02:23:00 -
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After monitoring the significant events of recent weeks within Caldari borders, The Omerta Syndicate will no longer stand idly by as Tibus Heth guides the Caldari race into an unnecessary darkness.
We know as well as anyone how deep the roots of corruption flow within the State, and although HethÆs intentions are admirable, his methods are not. Placing the Caldari in such a strategically blind position risks the welfare of millions û to what end?
How does this benefit the Caldari race in any way? Is Heth truly so nafve as to believe the Gallente Federation will not respond to such an attack on their home system?
A disturbing chapter has been written in history and there is nothing to change what happens from this point onwards.
All we can do now is ensure we have enough ammunition.
The Omerta Syndicate hereby returns to Caldari borders effective immediately, the protection of the Caldari people being her only priority at this time.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.12 02:25:00 -
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Interesting. |
Kyoko Sakoda
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.12 02:33:00 -
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Good hunting, my friends. See if you can talk some sense into your fellow militiamen at the same time, as well. |
Marie Trudeau
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.12 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Marie Trudeau on 12/06/2008 02:55:48
Respect, of course, for starters, but you probably knew that already.
What you really need to do, though, Kale, is convince that bastard Heth to stand down. I am sure some kind of DMZ around Caldari Prime could be negotiated, based on my own discussions with the offices of several influential Senators.
Remove Heth. Restore honor in the State. If that happens, there will be no war. But if he remains in his current state, I can't see how war is avoidable.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 03:04:00 -
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You, and every other Caldari appologist should head over to Gallente space where you will be welcomed with open arms.
Besides, I'm not sure a proud and loyal Caldari militia would take the soft sort you represent.
To proud and loyal Caldari I say - "Fight well brothers and sisters, and remember that brave Caldari before you have lost and regained Caldari Prime". In the name of corporate might! Fight!
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Leon 026
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.12 04:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Eventy One
Edited by: Eventy One on 12/06/2008 03:07:46
You, and every other Caldari appologist should head over to Gallente space where you will be welcomed with open arms.
Besides, I'm not sure a proud and loyal Caldari militia would take the soft sort you represent.
To you Marie Trudeau I say - there is no honour in a state that will not defend its own sovereignty .. there is no honour in a man that seeks to do what is easy and not what is right. Heth, seeks the right path, not the easy path which is why those with no honour cannot appreciate him - because they cannot see the quality that they, themselves lack.
To proud and loyal Caldari I say - "Fight well brothers and sisters, and remember that brave Caldari before you have lost and regained Caldari Prime. In the name of corporate might! Fight!"
I don't think you understand the Omerta Syndicate.
To O-SYN, happy hunting.
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Leon 026
Once I was fallen, now I have wings
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Julianus Soter
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.12 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Julianus Soter on 12/06/2008 04:47:41
Leon, I believe you are quite correct.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.12 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny Damordred on 12/06/2008 04:52:00
Well, Mr. Ryoko and Miss. Li, seems we're on different sides again. I guess there is nothing else to be said but: Until we meet on the battlefield, fly free and stay frosty.
Love and Ganking,
Jonny D.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.12 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One
there is no honour in a state that will not defend its own sovereignty .. there is no honour in a man that seeks to do what is easy and not what is right.
Quite wrong. There is no honor in seizing the foreign territory of no strategic value and beating war drums to the tune of rabid expansionism.
Miss, you truly do not understand what it means to be Caldari. Despite my minor differences with their leadership, the Syndicate do. Stop speaking before your loud mouth ruins it for your pretty face. |
Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
Quite wrong. There is no honor in seizing the foreign territory of no strategic value and beating war drums to the tune of rabid expansionism.
Is your sight so short that you cannot see there is more than one type of victory? That sometimes a tactical victory leads to a strategic loss? Or perhaps sometimes a moral, or psycological victory is required to ensure an actual one? That Pyrrhic victories are not victories to be desired?
I think not.
Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
Miss, you truly do not understand what it means to be Caldari. Despite my minor differences with their leadership, the Syndicate do.
You could be right. Or you could not be more wrong. Heth has done many things for the Caldari people, but its easy to critizize him, his faults, question his motives.
It is more difficult still to be loyal to a man whose vision may actually see a bit further than yours. You say this is simply a wasteful siezing of poorly defendable territory. It could be, but then again, it could also be that Heth's leadership affords him a view that sees further than yours. As I said in my original post, people cannot value qualities in others that they themselves lack.
Loyalty is a quality. How can you claim to know what it means to be Caldari, when loyalty, which is a Caldari trait, is no where to be seen in you. Like the Gallente, you fear Heth. Clearly you lack the strength of character (another Caldari quality) to support a man who has united the Caldari race agaist an agreesor already shown to be dangerous and hateful of our race.
Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
Stop speaking before your loud mouth ruins it for your pretty face.
When logic fails .... silence your opponent.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.12 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marie Trudeau
Remove Heth. Restore honor in the State. If that happens, there will be no war. But if he remains in his current state, I can't see how war is avoidable.
Unfortunately, there already exists a state of war between the Federation and the State. Whatever our individual views on the matter, that fact remains. As Kale has already said, this chapter has been written into history. It is for us, now, to finish the next. |
Deks
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.12 12:59:00 -
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Whatever our individual views on the matter, that fact remains. As Kale has already said, this chapter has been written into history. It is for us, now, to finish the next.
Indeed our only concern is that the gaping holes left in Caldari Defenses do not lead to any more Caldari people losing their lives or livelihoods. |
Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.12 13:43:00 -
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It is not my job to justify the actions and decisions of the CEO of KK (or any other CEOs, except maybe my superiors in Lai Dai) and I will not attempt to do so here (I have tried on other occasions). I will say that I am impressed with the Caldari Navy's liberation of Caldari Prime, when the opportunity arose.
I will however ask, on behave of my corporation and possibly others, what your position is in regards to those corporations that support the Caldari Providence Directorate (for whatever reason)? |
Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.12 15:02:00 -
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I am surprised to find myself consistently in agreement with Omerta Syndicate and Ghost Festival these days. We may have had a great many disagreements in the past, but it will be good to see you back in the State under these circumstances, Ryoko-haan. Good hunting. |
Kyoko Sakoda
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.12 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One
Is your sight so short that you cannot see there is more than one type of victory? That sometimes a tactical victory leads to a strategic loss? Or perhaps sometimes a moral, or psycological victory is required to ensure an actual one? That Pyrrhic victories are not victories to be desired?
I think not.
They are to be desired if the cause is just. Offensive campaigns can seldom be justified.
Originally by: Eventy One
It is more difficult still to be loyal to a man whose vision may actually see a bit further than yours. You say this is simply a wasteful siezing of poorly defendable territory. It could be, but then again, it could also be that Heth's leadership affords him a view that sees further than yours. As I said in my original post, people cannot value qualities in others that they themselves lack.
Heth's vision is a step far backwards. You're essentially saying here that Heth is right because he says so. That's even worse than the Emperor saying he's right because God said so. You're truly a lemming in all this.
Originally by: Eventy One
Loyalty is a quality. How can you claim to know what it means to be Caldari, when loyalty, which is a Caldari trait, is no where to be seen in you. Like the Gallente, you fear Heth. Clearly you lack the strength of character (another Caldari quality) to support a man who has united the Caldari race agaist an agreesor already shown to be dangerous and hateful of our race.
Strength of character is created by understanding the world is not black and white. Omerta has forever encapsulated the best of what it means to be Caldari. Loyalty to the leader does not mean it goes without question. Loyalty to the race means preservation of a history we can be proud of, even without the ethnic homeworld.
Bigots started this war, and they will end it because they will all be killed. I'm not a friend of the Federation, but at least I understand that the structure of someone's face has no bearing on who they are as a person.
Originally by: Eventy One
When logic fails .... silence your opponent.
No, I'm perfectly content fighting for an argument that will win. I just think you're an idiot. |
Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:22:00 -
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Kale for State Dictator, tbh.
On a less light-hearted note, I'm saddened that Omerta must return to a further weakend Caldari State, under the expansionistic militaristic leadership of that idiot Heth.
While I doubt I'll ever fully know what it means to be Caldari, at least I know what it means to be O-Syn - to love the people and be loyal to the people, even while the State seeks to destroy you all.
Good luck, friends. Send me a post-card when you get to hi-sec; you know Veto's address. 
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Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:13:00 -
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Oh my, this is most juicy - I get to shoot at Kale again!
This shall teach you for all that cavalry-raven blasphemies way back.
Also, I'm free sunday and need a date. |
Arvala Ishanoya
Verdant Inquiries
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Oh my, this is most juicy - I get to shoot at Kale again!
This shall teach you for all that cavalry-raven blasphemies way back.
Also, I'm free sunday and need a date.
Does your husband leave you so consistently? |
Major Death
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Major Death on 12/06/2008 20:43:06
I was going to write some rebuttal to Eventy One, but its like trying to argue with an Amarrian religious fanatic.
Except Eventy One kneels before Heth.
My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;)
CCP say 'Shut up about bugs and eat your eye candy!' |
Yuki Li
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:22:00 -
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I suppose every circus has at least one clown, hello, "Eventy One".
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You, and every other Caldari appologist should head over to Gallente space where you will be welcomed with open arms.
We're heading over to Gallente space, they're not welcoming us with open arms.
It might be because we keep shooting at them.
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Besides, I'm not sure a proud and loyal Caldari militia would take the soft sort you represent.
Proud militia? Why would they be proud? Nothing has been achieved yet, the only pride to be had is in what they fight to preserve, what we are fighting to preserve - the Caldari culture and way of life.
So you believe a militia should deny entry based on different ideologies, opinions and views?
That would be a very small militia.
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there is no honour in a state that will not defend its own sovereignty .. there is no honour in a man that seeks to do what is easy and not what is right. Heth, seeks the right path, not the easy path which is why those with no honour cannot appreciate him - because they cannot see the quality that they, themselves lack.
In which case, you would say it's entirely honourable for the Gallente Federation to strike back and attempt to retake Caldari Prime? Surely they'd be defending their own sovereignty in this case? Even while Caldari Prime was our home, the planet has always been smack in the middle of the Federation.
Maybe with this in mind, you can open your eyes and see that our friend Mr Heth is no tactical genius, he's taken a planet we couldn't hold in the first place, not because we're weak - we established our own sovereign state on our own strength, and have done nothing but advance further since that time, - but because it's in a ridiculously undefendable location.
He's started a war, and left a TITAN sitting babysitting a planet we don't need. Would you describe sentimental value as something Caldari patriots should hold above all else? Because that is all that rock has.
Now we have a Titan and a force of ships committed to holding a planet in enemy territory while the rest of our forces are elsewhere, those forces are minus one Titan, and that Titan is minus a great deal of support.
I can't possibly overstate what a mess this could turn into.
Despite this cascading stupidity we're here putting our lot in and defending the Caldari people.
Those people are important, megacorporate identities are not, and the CEP is only as important as the purpose it serves. If it ceases to act in the best interests of the people, screw the CEP and screw Tibus Heth.
We demonstrate our loyalty with our ships and weapons, while you do so with only your mouth. You don't appear to be a part of the militia, darling.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:30:00 -
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When my brother was alive, he lived by one phrase.
"No bird soars too high, when he flies on the strength of his own wings."
- Luke E. Verone, September 8th, 107 YC
With your return to the State, the Caldari people's wings just became a lot stronger.
Good luck, Omerta.
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Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.13 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Arvala Ishanoya
Does your husband leave you so consistently?
Not that it's any of your business, but he has other commitments on sunday. That aside, you may perhaps wish to reread lines one and two, apply a few neurons, and then consider how they may fit with line three. (Since I know subtlety isn't everyone's best field.)
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Nausea
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:15:00 -
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Here's hoping that Lady Luck never looks unfavorably on you or your organisation Kale.
Good hunting in the days to come. |
Vieve Tisserand
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.06.13 13:55:00 -
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Dear sweet merde, I do not know whether to chuckle or shriek.
At least there is the consolation of knowing that there will be more Caldari engaged in this madness out of genuine compassion for their people, rather than just the desire to crush lives and steal resources.
Yes, I cannot believe I just said that either. |
Yuki Li
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.14 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vieve Tisserand
Dear sweet merde, I do not know whether to chuckle or shriek.
At least there is the consolation of knowing that there will be more Caldari engaged in this madness out of genuine compassion for their people, rather than just the desire to crush lives and steal resources.
Yes, I cannot believe I just said that either.
I believe our comrades compassion is not so much the desire to simply smash and loot so much as the desire to exact some form of revenge; they believe they've been unfairly treated due to events that happened many years before they were born.
It's a bizarre phenomenon, but they don't act simply out of greed and hatred - at least for the most part. There are only three ways to reach the end of a war, two are the destruction of a side, and the third is reaching a certain level of understanding.
So with that in mind, if you wish to be the voice of reason, try to understand those who want to kill you the most, not just those whos reasoning is clear.
I'm sure we'll see you in space. Again.
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Rawr Cristina
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.26 21:32:00 -
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Several days ago I was able to liberate myself from the clutches of the Sanshas following a capsule malfunction, sending me into a coma. All I can remember is waking up in a medical facility inside what appeared to be a Caldari Navy Logistics station, being told that implants that I wasn't aware I even had, had been disabled.
I'm terribly sorry for anyone whom I might have dealings with in the last three months, but unfortunately I remember very little of it. I hope everything goes OK.
Anyway, I have caught up with recent events and after much consideration will be returning to duty with the State under the banner of the Omerta Syndicate. I look forward to seeing you all on the field.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.26 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Several days ago I was able to liberate myself from the clutches of the Sanshas following a capsule malfunction, sending me into a coma. All I can remember is waking up in a medical facility inside what appeared to be a Caldari Navy Logistics station, being told that implants that I wasn't aware I even had, had been disabled.
I'm terribly sorry for anyone whom I might have dealings with in the last three months, but unfortunately I remember very little of it. I hope everything goes OK.
Anyway, I have caught up with recent events and after much consideration will be returning to duty with the State under the banner of the Omerta Syndicate. I look forward to seeing you all on the field.
So, all that naked table dancing in The Last Gate was because of mind control? Damn...
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.26 21:51:00 -
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Welcome back, Christina!
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Viktor Javious
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.06.26 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Several days ago I was able to liberate myself from the clutches of the Sanshas following a capsule malfunction, sending me into a coma. being told that implants that I wasn't aware I even had, had been disabled.
No matter what you would like people to think, you came and worked for the Nation of your own free will, and you also had the will to leave on your own. You want to run off and be a puppet for the Caldari it's no skin off my back, but spreading lies of mind control is pretty low.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.27 00:12:00 -
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It's apparently no lie Javious, as there are two confirmed instances of capsuleer subversion by Sansha's Nation now.
I must admit, it is a little scary to realize the extent to which the Nation will go. Fascinating.
Ghost Festival is recruiting. |
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