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Galen Darksmith
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Galen Darksmith on 12/06/2008 18:55:55 Yeah, how can anyone speak out against someone who helped fight off raids an' attempted riots by the Brother o' Freedom 'gainst th' State? Wait, didn't see ya there...
Didn't see ya fightin' 'longside th' Navy when Republic paramilitaries an' anarchists attacked us in our own system, neither...
Or when Gallie paramilitaries were supplyin' terrorists 'gainst th' State...
Fact is, I've never seen or heard o' ya doin' ANYTHIN' fer th' State. Ever.
Who am I? I'm CAIN. An' I STILL don' know who you are.
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Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Karl Mattar Edited by: Karl Mattar on 12/06/2008 18:45:27
... and I like you too .. when you're silent.
Volume does not equal accuracy. Check again.
Apparently civility was not part of your genetic line, either.

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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 12/06/2008 19:47:27
Originally by: Galen Darksmith Didn't see ya fightin' 'longside th' Navy when Republic paramilitaries an' anarchists attacked us in our own system, neither...
Or when Gallie paramilitaries were supplyin' terrorists 'gainst th' State...
Fact is, I've never seen or heard o' ya doin' ANYTHIN' fer th' State. Ever.
Who am I? I'm CAIN. An' I STILL don' know who you are.
Love your logic!
I am sure there are many who you have not personally seen or are aware of. Does this mean anyone that has not fought alongside of you is not doing ANYTHIN' for the state? You do realize that by saying this, you are looking somewhat like a simpleton who needs to be directly involved with someone to appreciate their contribution. Or it is making you seem like you are vary narrow minded.
Love your logic!
Originally by: Karl Mattar Volume does not equal accuracy. Check again.
Apparently civility was not part of your genetic line, either.
Saw that and changed my response. Civility given is civility afforded. It is a function of the tone of the conversation. I did appreciate your points though. |

BloodBird
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 12/06/2008 18:29:55
Originally by: BloodBird There was nothing strange about Heth's rise to dictatorship, you are all wrong
Are you daft? You realize that in a corporation, you as an employee have absolutely no say, what-so-ever in who your CEO is? Do you realize in a corporate state, it is the CEO's who decide who holds the reigns of power.
Heth is not a self proclaimed dictator. He was chosen by the CEO's. They had a choice though you do not.
Apparently you don't even realize that you are Gallente Bloodbird.
I know fully well what I am delusional one. I'll tell you, again, so that it's on record that I did:
I am a free-born Intaki, born and raised on Intaki Prime. At age 19 I entered the Center for Advanced Studies and graduate after a few years. Then I spend my time traveling the universe and getting to know most of the positive, and negative, parts of the diffrent cultures. I've fought in a number of wars and as a capsuleer, killed thousands, if not by now millions, of human beings. I've come to know a great range of people, from any cultural background or society. While I greatly respect most people's right to live as they please, I do disagree on alot of things I find a-moral, like the issue on slavery and some of the ways the Matari treat one another, to name but a few.
I also retain, and have never even once considered discarding, my Federation citizenship. I strongly believe in and support the ideals of the Gallente and the Federation that my people are willingly part of. I've appreciated the peace, no matter how fragile, that we enjoyed... up until now. And now that it is broken, and your countrymen swarm out lands bringing death and destruction, I fight no longer for myself or any thrill of battle, but because I must. And I hold Tibus Heth and YOU, and people like you, to blame for this.
This is who I am, delusional one. I hope I will not repeat myself, at least not to you, so learn.
"You realize that in a corporation, you as an employee have absolutely no say, what-so-ever in who your CEO is?" False. Any employee of any corporation have the freedom to resign and seek employment elsewhere. Or at the very least, they should have that freedom. If people in the State have the choice to serve for life or leave the State, then it's basicly a slave state, with the exception that the Caldari can chose to be kicked out in discrase.
"Do you realize in a corporate state, it is the CEO's who decide who holds the reigns of power." True. However if Heth was indeed elected by all the other members of the CEP, to be the one to lead the rest, your leaders made an unbelivably poor selection. Also, I believed that the CEP was supposed to rule together, make common decitions on matters? Is this still the case?
"Heth is not a self proclaimed dictator. He was chosen by the CEO's. They had a choice though you do not." Unceartain. Were you there? Did you witness their selection campaign? And again, why is Heth a single person leading all of the Caldari to war?
The term dictator is used to describe an individual that is in total power over a government and thus a nation. If the CEP 'elected'him to rule all of them, he is in effect a dictator, no matter how he came to be one. I for one find it strange that a man that was, a few months ago at most, a factory worker, is now the fully elected sole commander of your state. Don't you? Also, he swiftly took control of no less than three separate corporations where the former leaders were killed or resigned, and he is now suddenly the State's overlord?
You should learn to think more, not just serve blindly, and in full support of whoever is in charge. Our elected leader is by no means perfect, but I at the least can freely admit that, you on the other hand, seems fully unwilling to even consider the option that Heth might not be 100% trustworthy.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 12/06/2008 20:08:15
Originally by: BloodBird I am a free-born Intaki, born and raised on Intaki Prime. At age 19 I entered the Center for Advanced Studies and graduate after a few years. Then I spend my time traveling the universe and getting to know most of the positive, and negative, parts of the diffrent cultures. I've fought in a number of wars and as a capsuleer, killed thousands, if not by now millions, of human beings. I've come to know a great range of people, from any cultural background or society. While I greatly respect most people's right to live as they please, I do disagree on alot of things I find a-moral, like the issue on slavery and some of the ways the Matari treat one another, to name but a few.
Your personal history is interesting. Being born on Intaki Prime does not make you my enemy. Assuming a posture in opposition to my people, my corporation or my state DOES.
I could care less about your ideals of freedom, I care about prosperity. True, national prosperity does not arise from having the ability to choose your leader, or the from false perception you can make a difference individually. True prosperity comes form innovation, and from effective organizations who compete to commercialize that.
Note that while the 'average' Gallente exhibits great personal freedom, most live in squalor. Note also that although Caldari lack these same freedoms, we are on average much more prosperous, and therefore more democratic - in the sense we have from our prosperity more say in how we live our lives.
I don't care what you think of me, of the Matari, of slavery, or Heth. However, if you fly starships in our places of employment, or prevent us from successfully developing our corporate interests, you deny us our freedom - a concept you and your people have never fully grasped.
Don't then lecture me on how a corporate state should run, or decry who we choose to lead us.
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Van Cleef
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:14:00 -
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Eventy One, with such patriotic views and boastful claims, I assume you are currently on your way to enlist in the State Milita then? Or do you assume your war of words is enought support for the grand dictator heth? ------------------------------------------------
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Kvander Godalming
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Darina Rea Says the Angel Cartel supporter..
Ehmm, little underhand ofcourse, sorry about that.
Anyway, Heths 'bold and brave leadership' just reminds me of the leadership of the Gallente Parliament at around, say where they bombed and took Caldari Prime. All the Caldari shouted for a century or so that the Gallente were fascists, terrorists, landpickers, thieves, murderers, scum, you name it, for allowing that. Now the Caldari are all that, and apparently, proud of it.
I call that hypocritical.
*pffth*
Who cares about "consistency"? I care about what's good for me, and what's good for the State. Speaking for myself, I ain't in this to prove I'm better than them.
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Derrys
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Derrys on 12/06/2008 20:30:32
Originally by: Eventy One I am sure there are many who you have not personally seen or are aware of. Does this mean anyone that has not fought alongside of you is not doing ANYTHIN' for the state?
Of course not. But it means the onus is on them to back up their strong words with evidence if they want to be taken seriously.
So...what exactly are your qualifications? Certainly so dedicated a patriot as you has dozens of non-forum-oriented accomplishments you could list to show how much you support the State?
After all, it would be rather silly to question the loyalty of those who have fought and bled and died for the State if all you had ever done for it is type on a keyboard. Surely that's not the case. |

Major Death
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:34:00 -
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Quote: Like citizens of the state, corporations have to forego self-interest in favour of national interest.
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Thorradin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.12 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Van Cleef Eventy One, with such patriotic views and boastful claims, I assume you are currently on your way to enlist in the State Milita then? Or do you assume your war of words is enought support for the grand dictator heth?
Perhaps they will serve the Caldari indirectly like you. One of the sad things about how your group is acting, is that you people honestly seem to think Heth is somehow worse than the megacorp CEOs that you blindly defend(ed) against the people you claim to support.
Before Heth, we had a State whose power was on the decline, megacorporations fighting amongst themselves, sacrificing the people for their personal satisfaction, and caring nothing for the greater good of the Caldari. As soon as Heth appeared on the scene, people decried him as a warmonger and a villain. When the minmatar attacked the amarr, he used a golden opportunity to take back something stolen from us long ago.
Heth now has to back up his claims of change he made. Until he proves one way or another what he will do, I'd expect someone like you to give him the same leeway you gave the megacorporations that were busy bleeding the people dry.
The reaction from some of you isn't that shocking, disconnected from reality as you are. The people love Heth, what he has done already, that he knows full well the nightmarish hell they work in, and that they have a better chance as seeing the State's former glory restored under him than it EVER would have been under the megacorporations.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One You clearly have an inflated opinion of your ability to represent other Caldari.
If there's any capsuleer in New Eden who can claim to speak on behalf of the Caldari People, it's Kyoko Sakoda. Without a shadow of a doubt.
She was working for Omerta years before you even graduated as an Egger.

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Number 17
COLD-Wing The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:30:00 -
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A brief look at your resume shows you are just another opportunist, aroused by the courage of numbers.
We have long been working for the best of our people, and when the dust settles we will keep doing so. For our priorities have not changed. While you and your kind go back to drug smuggling or whatever it was you did.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Verone If there's any capsuleer in New Eden who can claim to speak on behalf of the Caldari People, it's Kyoko Sakoda. Without a shadow of a doubt.
Ah so the real problem here is that Kyoko Sakoda (and apparently you) don't realize the person that speaks for the Caldari people is Tibus Heth.
I guess we'll chalk this up to professional envy.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 12/06/2008 22:43:47
Originally by: Thorradin The reaction from some of you isn't that shocking, disconnected from reality as you are. The people love Heth, what he has done already, that he knows full well the nightmarish hell they work in, and that they have a better chance as seeing the State's former glory restored under him than it EVER would have been under the megacorporations.
Well spoken Thorradin. Indeed, with Heth at the helm, I believe we are on track to see former glory restored - and I too am shocked by the claims made by some who profess to be 'loyal Caldari'.
Loyalty is more than a word, it is a quality. One which I see you possess in great abundance.
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BloodBird
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One Your personal history is interesting. Being born on Intaki Prime does not make you my enemy. Assuming a posture in opposition to my people, my corporation or my state DOES.
So, being an Intaki does not make me an enemy of yours, while any Gallente would be equal to being one? Racist. I guess you are among the blood-thirsty ones that rejoiced when your dictator rounded up any State citezen of Gallente ethnic background? Please note, that the Intaki, as well as the Gallente, are part of the Federation.
This is interesting to take note of, because you seemed unable to distinguish between bloodlines before, assuming that anyone in the Federation was 'gallente'.
Originally by: Eventy One Note that while the 'average' Gallente exhibits great personal freedom, most live in squalor.
This is a simple lie, and you should know that. Unless your simply ignorant, or, as I have theorized before: merely delusional. It might seem you view a distorded picture of the Federation, one that fits more with your hate-filled wishes. You WANT us all to be the evil you claim we are and the State to be the perfect, blame-less hero, don't you?
You know, being born in the State don't absolutely make you an enemy of me either. But your militia is rampaging Federation space, you have allready taken a system if I'm not mistaken, so your contrymen have definitly proven an enemy of me and mine.
Join your militia if you hate us so delusional one. Then you too can die for your ideals, not just boast about them here.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One I guess we'll chalk this up to professional envy.
Oh believe me... I'm anything but envious of Heth's position, given the massive barrel of worms he's opened with recent events.
Heth doesn't speak for the people, he speaks for those that are patriots among the Caldari. There is more to the State than a pack of warmongering racists such as yourself.
Heth is nothing more than an overzealous racist, a bigot and a hasty fool who is destined to get a lot of people killed in his sad little war games with the Federation and eventually probably the Republic.
You can bark all you want, Caldari. It'll always be stronger than your bite.

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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: BloodBird So, being an Intaki does not make me an enemy of yours, while any Gallente would be equal to being one? Racist. I guess you are among the blood-thirsty ones that rejoiced when your dictator rounded up any State citezen of Gallente ethnic background? Please note, that the Intaki, as well as the Gallente, are part of the Federation.
If you are my enemy, not because of your race, but because of your actions, or the actions of your state - that hardly makes me a racists. Do you Gallente assume freedom implies the freedom to mis-use words. Apparently.
Please note that although the Intaki are in the Gallente federation many are not! Many serve Muryia Mordu, or have you forgotten. Also note that most of your bloodline left the Gallente federation to forge the Syndicate - an organized roughly based upon Caldari ideals.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Verone Heth doesn't speak for the people, he speaks for those that are patriots among the Caldari.
Heth speaks more for the Caldari people than you do.
Originally by: Verone There is more to the State than a pack of warmongering racists such as yourself.
Label me a racists. It is a label without sting with without justification. The nature of this conflict is not one of race - but I wouldn't expect you to know that. Rather, why I would expect is when you face ideas, and rational thought that you cannot comprehend, you become unable to work it through, and either conceed your deficiencies or present a stronger counter argument. You then attack your opponent rather than the truth of their argument. This is called ad hominem, and is typical of the Gallente. That is what I expected, and true to form - you delivered.
Originally by: Verone Heth is nothing more than an overzealous racist, a bigot and a hasty fool who is destined to get a lot of people killed in his sad little war games with the Federation and eventually probably the Republic.
And now I must conclude that you draw some comfort in this using this label, because again rather than dealing with Heth's accomplishments - you label him. You are pathetic. It is little wonder you fear us. |

Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.12 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 12/06/2008 23:19:53
Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Verone Heth doesn't speak for the people, he speaks for those that are patriots among the Caldari.
Heth speaks more for the Caldari people than you do.
I speak for no-one but myself, and have never claimed otherwise. Your assumptions are that of a fool with no other logical argument. I can see why Heth resorted to such an agressive approach if his mentality or lack there of is remotely similar to that of yourself.
You obviously have very little real knowledge of the situation at hand, otherwise you would be putting more coherent messages together than the tripe that's been pouring from your neocom so far.
Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Verone There is more to the State than a pack of warmongering racists such as yourself.
Label me a racists. It is a label without sting with without justification. The nature of this conflict is not one of race - but I wouldn't expect you to know that. Rather, why I would expect is when you face ideas, and rational thought that you cannot comprehend, you become unable to work it through, and either conceed your deficiencies or present a stronger counter argument. You then attack your opponent rather than the truth of their argument. This is called ad hominem, and is typical of the Gallente. That is what I expected, and true to form - you delivered.
I remain Gallente by bloodline only, sadly my genetics are one of few things in life I can't change. I'm no Federal loyalist, and no friend of the Gallente Federation. My claim of your racism is no falsification of fact. All one needs to do is look at your drivel across the IGS over the last couple of days to see the anti-Gallente pro Heth trash that spews from your mouth.
You speak of rational thought? I see nothiing rational in what Heth has done in the last few weeks. Racism is a powerful thing when it develops in a mind that's willing to use the hate it generates to it's full extent.
Nothing but racism, pure hate for the Federation and Heth's own arrogance has caused the current situation. It's amusing that you claim otherwise.
Originally by: Eventy One
Originally by: Verone Heth is nothing more than an overzealous racist, a bigot and a hasty fool who is destined to get a lot of people killed in his sad little war games with the Federation and eventually probably the Republic.
And now I must conclude that you draw some comfort in this using this label, because again rather than dealing with Heth's accomplishments - you label him. You are pathetic. It is little wonder you fear us.
Comfort, not at all. Believe me when I return home at night, I find all the comfort I need, ironically from a Caldari.
A Caldari with a difference though. A Caldari who while not loyal to the State's current regime, is loyal to her people. A Caldari with actual values who has endless pride for her nation and people's history.
That's what a true Caldari is, yourself and Heth remain nothing more than warmongering opportunists.
As for fear... your "claim" amuses me. I live in a different world to your sugar coated, State controlled, consumer orientated life. I was raiding into State space when you were still trying to figure out how to plug in your neural jacks, child.
Heth has accomplished nothing other than bringing war to two entities that were once at a truce and were actively trading and providing eachother with economic benefit. He's also succeded in killing millions on both sides in the process.
As for fearing you, Heth, the State or anything you feel you could throw at me? Well, the only fear I have is the fear of *****ing a rib from the amusement of such a claim.
Once again, your bark remains louder than your bite, Caldari. I'm done with you, I've had my ten minutes of amusement at your petty, small minded racism, child.
Keep yapping on here though, little lapdog. It remains amusing regardless.

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Kvander Godalming
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Posted - 2008.06.13 00:46:00 -
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Quote: Nothing but racism, pure hate for the Federation and Heth's own arrogance has caused the current situation. It's amusing that you claim otherwise.
Really, now? You don't suppose Malkalen had anything to do with it?
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BloodBird
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.13 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kvander Godalming
Quote: Nothing but racism, pure hate for the Federation and Heth's own arrogance has caused the current situation. It's amusing that you claim otherwise.
Really, now? You don't suppose Malkalen had anything to do with it?
Malkalen was not an official Federation attack, it was a terrorist attack executed by a single raving mad-man, one that unfortunatly managed to evade detection long enough to execute his mad bid for revenge.
HOW many time must we explain this to you people? AGAIN, I will mention the ENTIRE FEDERAL DELEGATION that also perished in that attack.
On the other hand, here is another fact, stated time and again, but one that most of you don't see: Malkalen and a spesific underwater city on Caldari Prime was two similar acts of total terrorism, that was responded to in the wrong way.
Terrorists caused that age-old tradgedy, and a facist government responds the wrong way, blowing everything out of proportions.
Another terrorist cause Malkalen, and now a facist dictator responds... you know it. THE WRONG WAY.
STOP whining on about Malkalen being the fault of the Federation. It's wishful thinking from the kind of people that WANT us to be the evil, oppressive empire and simply look for excuses to call us as such. And that's exactly what our government did back then. You claim to be so much better, so PROVE that allready.
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Iyachtu Achlysiel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.13 07:15:00 -
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I am so very amused by people praising the achievements of our Beloved Leader Tibus Heth. What have they been, so far? Exposing the entire State to utterly devastating Gallente invasion should Foiritain be made of sterner stuff than he appeared, and his massive gamble in Luminaire failed. He wasn't, and it didn't, but what did he win there? A planet in the middle of Federation and a defensive force ready to be swept aside if CONCORD decides not to interfere, or watch impotently at troop transports sailing by if they decide to prevent us from firing each other. From what I know of Federal system, Caldari Prime isn't even legally ours until their Senate ratifies President's decision to cede it - and I'll publicly eat my baret if they go ahead and do that.
This empty propaganda victory not only denied us the opportunity to inflict actually hurtful blows against Federal economy, but also triggered a needless war that not only diverts our attention from making some truly needed reforms to our economy, but damages it further by putting stop to Federal and Republic commerce. At least exports to Empire will pick up, but that's no thanks to Heth. The only gain here, if you want to call it that, is that Heth has now irrecovably solidified his position. Logically, that must be what this was all about. Politics is the art of hypocrisy, but Heth vocally condemning the old leadership for sacrificing State's welfare for their own interest, and then doing something like this, really takes this to a completely new level.
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Vendrin
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.13 07:25:00 -
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While this whole Heth Business is somewhat good for business lately, you shouldn't really be talking Eventy One until you enlist in the State Protectorate. It would really do you some better.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Vendrin While this whole Heth Business is somewhat good for business lately, you shouldn't really be talking Eventy One until you enlist in the State Protectorate. It would really do you some better.
Funny, we live in a Corporate State - not a banana republic.
I see you haven't resigned your post as CEO of a corporation to join a militia. Last time I checked you did not need to enroll in a militia to be a citizen of the state or to serve!
It seems you make too many assumptions.
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Elex Akat
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.13 22:47:00 -
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'Scuse me but you're a f**ktard. The Caldari were part of the Federation. They were sworn to defend it and support it and What do they do? They sneak behind the rest of the federations back and secretly colonize planets and build armies to undermine the Federation. The Caldari started this whole thing long ago and they can't deny it.
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Thorradin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.14 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Elex Akat 'Scuse me but you're a f**ktard. The Caldari were part of the Federation. They were sworn to defend it and support it and What do they do? They sneak behind the rest of the federations back and secretly colonize planets and build armies to undermine the Federation. The Caldari started this whole thing long ago and they can't deny it.
Those colonies predated the creation of the Federation. Also, as the Federation was created to promote freedom and equality (if you are Gallente), what right does it have to tell people 'when you join, your ass is our property, and you can NEVER leave, or we'll kill you'. I believe courts intervene and charges are filed in those sorts of relationships.
Your lack of historical knowledge is so astounding I can't help but wonder if you're only acting this stupid.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.14 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 14/06/2008 02:44:56
Originally by: Elex Akat 'Scuse me but you're a f**ktard. The Caldari were part of the Federation. They were sworn to defend it and support it and What do they do? They sneak behind the rest of the federations back and secretly colonize planets and build armies to undermine the Federation. The Caldari started this whole thing long ago and they can't deny it.
Psst. Thorradin. Think anyone should tell him about the Intaki's role with the Syndicate?
Na. He might call someone a f**ktard, and it would be awfully embarassing exposing who the f**ktard actually was.
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Dagas Hunter
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Posted - 2008.06.14 16:10:00 -
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Look at what we have become! We must stop fighting among ourselves in these troubling times and focus our attention at our enemies. Our cause is just, our fleets are strong, we will prevail!
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.14 16:59:00 -
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A little wholesome internal conflict has never seemed amiss in the State. In the end, we all will do what we need to do - at least most of us.
You know the old historical divisions of Practical, Patriot and Liberal? Maybe we need a fourth, now, for paper tigers who rail against those of us who actually defend the State.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.14 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dagas Hunter Look at what we have become! We must stop fighting among ourselves in these troubling times and focus our attention at our enemies. Our cause is just, our fleets are strong, we will prevail!
You're right. We must stop fighting among ourselves, stand behind our leader, and focus our attention on our enemies. Unity means excluding none (including Tibus Heth).
We will prevail.
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