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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:29:00 -
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As predicted, it took less than a week to achieve the maximum faction warfare rank (Divine Commodore), for the Amarr Empire in this case.
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Here are the interesting facts:
111 faction warfare complexes were captured in the process, almost all of them defensively.
Due to all the promotions, my Amarr standing raised from 0.55 to 7.16.
It took 6 days to achieve this rank.
Grouping up was not required to capture the plexes.
Killing people was not required to capture the plexes.
Almost everything was captured with a ship+fitting worth less than 100k.
I did not kill anyone in the process, although I have fired on some people to scare them off. Your new Divine Commodore is a moral objectionist. 
While I did a lot of the work by myself, this task wouldn't have been accomplished as fast without:
Daraasi, Plausible, KC51, Lernaeus and Rabbi Godzilla for the intel and teamwork.
Special thanks to:
DanFrazer for contributing hundreds ships for the Amarr cause, this guy deserves a medal.
Laerise and the people of PIE for a nice raid into Minmatar space.
Amarr Victor, hehe 
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Wet Ferret on 18/06/2008 02:34:38
How did this affect your faction (standings) with the other empires?
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:35:00 -
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Sisters of Eve went from 5.10 to 2.93
Gallente went from 3.23 to 0.97
Minmatar went from 0.73 to -3.37
Not that bad, I'd say.
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Lady Starfire
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:38:00 -
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Your worthless and just proved faction warfare ranks are worthless thanks for proving it. It's called warfare not pacifist circle jerk.
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Daraasi
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:39:00 -
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Lets face it, you totally outclassed me on this one.
35 Complexes to go.
See you in the bleaks o7
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:42:00 -
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Nice!
Congrats!
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flashfreaking
LFC
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Lady Starfire
Your worthless and just proved faction warfare ranks are worthless thanks for proving it. It's called warfare not pacifist circle jerk.
Looks like somebody is jealous :D
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:43:00 -
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That seems a bit fast.
Oh well, enjoy your new career in anchoring high sec POSes in Amarr space.
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Starfire
Your worthless and just proved faction warfare ranks are worthless thanks for proving it. It's called warfare not pacifist circle jerk.
Let's face it, the player will ALWAYS find the shortest way to the cheese.
And yes, this was done, in this nonviolent manner, to prove a point regarding the Faction Warfare game mechanics. Remember my little speech that Faction Warfare should be interesting for all types of players? Well currently, it's not very interesting, is it? And what better way to prove it would be to run the course myself? When I meet with CCP in a few days, at least I have some specific insights on this matter.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:48:00 -
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Yeah, people always do this sort of stuff in every game, and the devs get some insight from it. There were some youtube videons circulating a while back, about some guy in WoW going from level 1 to level 70 (max level) in 2 days.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Faction Warfare should be interesting for all types of players?
If you don't want warfare, why are you participating in faction warfare. Reading issues? Faction WARFARE, not faction carebearing.
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Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 18/06/2008 02:50:10
Oof. Well demonstrated 
Some important info i'd be interested in is time spent ingame, best guesstimate? Of the 6 days, how many hours / day were involved? I've a feeling it's going to be depressingly low...
Originally by: Cpt Branko
If you don't want warfare, why are you participating in faction warfare. Reading issues? Faction WARFARE, not faction carebearing.
Touch a nerve there? Geez, calm down. An experiment was run and the results presented. Now put your toys back in the pram. 
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:50:00 -
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congrats
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Starfire
Your worthless and just proved faction warfare ranks are worthless thanks for proving it. It's called warfare not pacifist circle jerk.
wat
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 18/06/2008 02:50:10
Oof. Well demonstrated
Some important info i'd be interested in is time spent ingame, best guesstimate? Of the 6 days, how many hours / day were involved? I've a feeling it's going to be depressingly low...
Quite a lot but for the exact amount I have to dig through the standing history logs.
Let's just say I did do some normal RL obligations such as part-time work and attending birthday party, besides Eve, but that I only got an average of 4 hours of sleep a day. It is 4.52 in the morning locally, that sais enough I think.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:53:00 -
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Ankhesentapemkah just proved to me with this thread that they deserve a place on the CSM.
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Nynaeve Ares
Animus Incarnate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:53:00 -
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There really is no cheese if it's this easy, people would just be wasting time to get a hollow rank.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:53:00 -
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Well done :)
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Matthew Cooper
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Starfire
Your worthless and just proved faction warfare ranks are worthless thanks for proving it. It's called warfare not pacifist circle jerk.
Plenty of NPCs were killed to reach this goal I'm sure. They're people too you know!
Originally by: Tarminic
Stop posting with your alt Kieron.
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ExcellciuM
Exair Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:54:00 -
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Some caldari have already done this, but they didn't need to write out a whole circle jerk thread about it, how much attention do you need before your head explodes?
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Yarr2K
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
congrats
Yeah was gonna say that FW is not about what ever rank you achive but how much satisfiying pew pew you can get into. Look for the rank structure to change alot over the coming months.
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Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: ExcellciuM
Some caldari have already done this, but they didn't need to write out a whole circle jerk thread about it, how much attention do you need before your head explodes?
less than you?
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Nynaeve Ares
Animus Incarnate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Well done :)
Look at dat fuggen grooming.
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White Ronin
Screenout
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Ankhesentapemkah just proved to me with this thread that they deserve a place on the CSM.
Agreed.
And now that you have proof, what will you suggest be done to make it better?
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.06.18 02:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 18/06/2008 03:00:28
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 18/06/2008 02:59:57
Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Originally by: Cpt Branko
If you don't want warfare, why are you participating in faction warfare. Reading issues? Faction WARFARE, not faction carebearing.
Touch a nerve there? Geez, calm down. An experiment was run and the results presented. Now put your toys back in the pram.
I was reffering to the comment that 'faction warfare should be interesting to all sorts of players'. Which it shouldn't. It should be interesting to people interested in warfare, not carebearing.
Ranks not requiring kills is obviously bogus, anyway.
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Yarr2K
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Ranks not requiring kills is obviously bogus, anyway.
Tbh I'm not convinced that anyone really cares about the ranks. So far everyone I've run across just wants to pew pew and damn the objectives.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:08:00 -
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Ankhesentapemkah,
Get back to work in CSM and make EVE better now - damn it. Your life belongs to the public now, no promoting FW!!!
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Viktor Konstantine
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:08:00 -
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WAR IS COM--- oops nm lolz
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Thaylon Sen
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:09:00 -
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They may just be eye candy, but its very dispointing their so easy to get. Kudos was their only value.
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Jmanis Catharg
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jmanis Catharg on 18/06/2008 03:11:01
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Tbh I'm not convinced that anyone really cares about the ranks. So far everyone I've run across just wants to pew pew and damn the objectives.
^^ this.
Personally, for no reward or any such result, I'm crawling to those standings in my own 4-hours-a week timeframe, and I don't mind that. I've ground level 4 missions to the point that my Caldari State standing is above 8.
What I find particularly interesting is that FW brought a sudden wave of PvP into EVE, yet the PVP arising is a result of nothing new brought on by Empyrean age, except the fact it let you join a side at war with two others without having to deal with the politics.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
congrats
Don't you mean... "This doesn't make you any less of a tool"
But seriously, not even one kill to help out your faction is rather worthless.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: White Ronin
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Ankhesentapemkah just proved to me with this thread that they deserve a place on the CSM.
Agreed.
And now that you have proof, what will you suggest be done to make it better?
Beats the hell out of me. 
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:43:00 -
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Ankh managed to get away from my boys, a good evasive carebear 
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iudex
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:51:00 -
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Gratz, you're the second one, yesterday we had the first caldari bregadier general.
Looks like it's possible to gain ranks fast.
Now even the missions give a bigger faction standing boost than at the beginning (standing boost seems to increase as part of time-based reward balancing), so gaining ranks did not become a longterm goal like i hoped.
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.18 04:05:00 -
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Re: "pacifism."
I've played team- based shooters for years and I've always found situations where it can be better (due to communications or respawn mechanics or whatever) to evade an enemy than to kill him.
Yes, I know this isn't a shooter. Point is though, sneaky people often have tactical uses too and that's right and good IMO.
Still don't think you should be able to max out your rank that fast though. 
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Artemis Rose
Eleckrostatik
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Posted - 2008.06.18 04:07:00 -
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Get any shiny medals to show off in Ambulation?
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Mazakura
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.06.18 04:15:00 -
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What the hell are you guys talking about. RANKS SHOULD BE WORTHLESS. In fact they never should have put ranks into this FW. This is not WoW and frankly the fact that CCP did put ranks into the game makes me a little sick.
If they ever have ranks get you ships and/or gear they are just one step away from driving eve into the ground.
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2008.06.18 04:40:00 -
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Lol what a joke. Ranks should be related to the number of enemy player ships downed. Not how much of a carebear some inbred can be for 2 weeks.
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2008.06.18 04:57:00 -
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I hate to break it to you guys, but there's a lot more to warfare than just pew pew.
The scout that never gets on a killmail watching the other side of a gate is just as involved in warfare as the person firing the gun at the target he called out. And the person building you the ship to fight with is just as much a part of warfare.
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.18 05:00:00 -
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Good work. Proves how worthless the ranks are tbh.
Faction warfare is a bit of a cheap ploy by CCP imho. Its fun to have lots of targets, and I'm sure that ranks are great to obtain for bragging rights, but the whole system seems to have been done on the cheap.
Compare this release (6 months of waiting) to say Red Moon Rising, or Trinity and the amount of new stuff is pretty pathetic.
It feels more like a CCP cash in trying to get more book sales than giving the game world something new and dynamic. Player created missions and content is something exciting they 'could' have done with FW, but I doubt they'll get there in another 20 years at this rate.
/moan hat off
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Jmanis Catharg
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 05:04:00 -
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Quote:
Still don't think you should be able to max out your rank that fast though. Razz
Wouldn't be the case if everyone didn't blob in tama, and actually hung back home in different systems,, say,, protecting them from the enemy.
What I do disagree with though is standing gains for defensively capturing points. Maybe for reclaiming a point off an enemy who captured it previously, but definately not just for finding a point in allied space and 'capturing' it.
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.18 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
Lol what a joke. Ranks should be related to the number of enemy player ships downed. Not how much of a carebear some inbred can be for 2 weeks.
Fine then. No remote repping for you, no points or e- peen in it.
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Mad Maynard
Figurehead Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.18 05:43:00 -
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If anyone is interested, I happen to have the frozen corpse of Ankhesentapemkah, first Divine Commodore of the Amarr Empire and member of CSM. Let me know if anyone is sick enough to want it.
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Horus Vek
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Posted - 2008.06.18 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Your new Divine Commodore is a moral objectionist.
you mean a coward?
heh heh, expected nothing less from an amarr :P
(Minmatar forthe win!)
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notdiscostu
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:12:00 -
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All this proves is what we already knew: that rankings in FW are useless at present. And to be honest, if it took 6 days worth of 15ish hours of playing eve, the bar is probably a little low to reach the rank attained.
Bottom line? Ankseasdfpnqwerpoinqertypingrandomletters proves a point, but not the point she wanted to. Its not that it offers nothing for carebears, hell, she proved that a pure carebear can, without kiling a single person, succeed in faction warfare. She proved that the ranks are useless. Nothing more.
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ExcellciuM
Exair Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:19:00 -
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Hey look, my post got deleted, ill type it again.
A few others have already done this and they didn't have to write out a whole Circle Jerk thread about it. How much attention do you really need?
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 18/06/2008 02:50:10
Oof. Well demonstrated
Some important info i'd be interested in is time spent ingame, best guesstimate? Of the 6 days, how many hours / day were involved? I've a feeling it's going to be depressingly low...
Quite a lot but for the exact amount I have to dig through the standing history logs.
Let's just say I did do some normal RL obligations such as part-time work and attending birthday party, besides Eve, but that I only got an average of 4 hours of sleep a day. It is 4.52 in the morning locally, that sais enough I think.
So this proves that if you become a 'basement child' and avoid as much social contact in RL as you can, you can 'clock' or get to 'end game' of something?
Genius.
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen.
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:41:00 -
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Well done Ankh -( ur name is hard & long )
Anyways grats on gettin to the top rank or whatever I not touched eve for about 2months summer & all that lark, I only read eve forums cant keep away it seems you answerd my question tho so I need not come back to eve just yet to think am missing anything,
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
And yes, this was done, in this nonviolent manner, to prove a point regarding the Faction Warfare game mechanics. Remember my little speech that Faction Warfare should be interesting for all types of players? Well currently, it's not very interesting, is it? And what better way to prove it would be to run the course myself? When I meet with CCP in a few days, at least I have some specific insights on this matter.
Huh? You proved that FW is not interesting when you CHOOSE it not to be. Was someone pointing a gun to your head and telling you not to join up in a fleet or start a fleet yourself or go on the offensive? Did the battleield intelligence page not give you nearby hostile systems to attack? Are you banned from roaming around looking for enemies?
You sound extremely arrogant.
If FW sucks so bad then how about you add some suggestions? How about you make your own MMORPG if you are such a genius?
So if I play Bioshock and I decide to just run around in a circle and no nothing, that means Bioshock is broken? Or is it because I'm an idiot and am not playing the game how it was intended which has been CLEARLY spelled out in numerous developer blogs and a player guide that is incredibly well-written.
Please, is this what we get with CSM reps? You comment on game mechanics which you don't even bother to understand what CCP intends and then circle jerk (hi jade) on the forums that you are so l33t and we are so suxxor. If you were so 'l33t' you would know that CCP added in ranks without putting in the rewards and will have to tweak how much an action in FW gives you points towards ranking. CCP is aware on this and will add it in later, they have already told us this so you whine is terrible.
&(*% OFF CSM.
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Keeves
Sexy Pirate Club
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:52:00 -
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Wow, people sure can be *******s in this thread. Hey Fukheads, if someone wants to be a "carebear" then grow the maturity to let them be wtf they want in this sandbox mmo... christ...
As for the ranks, when i was testing it on SiSi i was very annoyed when i got 3 of the 10 (?) ranks in like 4 or 5 capped complexes... I would like it better if you see a "Divine Commodore" and think "Holy **** that guy has been in faction warfare for a long time". Not something like 6 days...
Oh and ranks up for kills would be nice too.
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Stevens
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
And yes, this was done, in this nonviolent manner, to prove a point regarding the Faction Warfare game mechanics. Remember my little speech that Faction Warfare should be interesting for all types of players? Well currently, it's not very interesting, is it? And what better way to prove it would be to run the course myself? When I meet with CCP in a few days, at least I have some specific insights on this matter.
Huh? You proved that FW is not interesting when you CHOOSE it not to be. Was someone pointing a gun to your head and telling you not to join up in a fleet or start a fleet yourself or go on the offensive? Did the battleield intelligence page not give you nearby hostile systems to attack? Are you banned from roaming around looking for enemies?
You sound extremely arrogant.
If FW sucks so bad then how about you add some suggestions? How about you make your own MMORPG if you are such a genius?
So if I play Bioshock and I decide to just run around in a circle and no nothing, that means Bioshock is broken? Or is it because I'm an idiot and am not playing the game how it was intended which has been CLEARLY spelled out in numerous developer blogs and a player guide that is incredibly well-written.
Please, is this what we get with CSM reps? You comment on game mechanics which you don't even bother to understand what CCP intends and then circle jerk (hi jade) on the forums that you are so l33t and we are so suxxor. If you were so 'l33t' you would know that CCP added in ranks without putting in the rewards and will have to tweak how much an action in FW gives you points towards ranking. CCP is aware on this and will add it in later, they have already told us this so you whine is terrible.
You make a train load of good points that will be ignored by him like every one else pointing out it isn't broke if you choose not be part of it.
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Miz Cenuij
Lol what a joke. Ranks should be related to the number of enemy player ships downed. Not how much of a carebear some inbred can be for 2 weeks.
Fine then. No remote repping for you, no points or e- peen in it.
Lol noob, I have thousands of solo kills, frigs, hacs, bs, carriers etc posted on battleclinic. All without some noob remote repping me.
Wtf makes u think id let a remote repair mod from a worthless nubbin like u even touch Battlestar Miz?
If u so much as repped 1HP, i'd wtf put the smackdown on u just to make myself feel clean again.
Inbreds like u hvd far too much self esteem these days.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 18/06/2008 08:10:35
Originally by: Vaal Erit
So if I play Bioshock and I decide to just run around in a circle and no nothing, that means Bioshock is broken?
OT, but Bioshock *was* broken. It failed in almost all things where the games it stole it's ideas from succeeded. Bioshock was ****. Huge disappointment.
Oh, and if someone can get the highest rank in 6 days, yeah, that's ridiculously easy. You can't get, say, standings for BS bpc offers in 6 days, why can you get the highest FW rank in that time?
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:10:00 -
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All hail the OP!
Lame carebear of the week!
You get to wear the "special" hat.
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Fifinella
Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:17:00 -
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It's nice to see the months I spent grinding faction standing for POS anchoring and whatnot weren't wasted.
Wait, did I just say "weren't"? I meant to say "were". Easy typo to make.
And to top it off, doing that the old-fashioned way I took a WORSE standings hit with other factions than you did doing it the FW way.
Because, you know, I wasn't at war with those factions like you were.
It all makes sense. In Bizarroworld.
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Miz Cenuij
Basically I'm a total fggt.
Well, that settles that then I expect.
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cal nereus
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:32:00 -
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I liked playing with Lego blocks as a child. You can take seemingly uninteresting blocks and put them together in various combinations to create nearly limitless possibilities.
At first, this seems totally unrelated to the OP, but in fact, I have a point to make: although there are certain mechanics and limitations to what you can do in Eve Online, it's still a game created by the players. Faction Warfare is what YOU make of it. You haven't been handed a finished product. You, the player, are developing the product as you play, and what you get is what you make. If you make it crappy, it'll be crappy. But if you make it awesome, it'll be awesome.
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Earning Isk
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Death4free
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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