Kind of funny that you cry about the sec gain nerf

* Let me say this about security status repair
A pirat dont geave any **** about the sec status and b the one who does care shoud not call him/herself a pirate just a wanabe. (true pirate is being proud of -10 and dont have the time to wast on reping sec status since he is to bizzy killing stuff
[even more dumb words that take up a ton of space here, removed so as to not further **** up this thread with the length]
Yeah yeah i know i shoud post it whit my pirat alt instead but that again it way to boring to log in to post whit it
Yes my spelling is not that great deal whit it
You mad bro?
Hope i dint dubble post it and feel free to flame away
Greets from nitrya

Are you seriously that stupid? The purpose of looking at my killboard is to see all the hulks I like to gank, and how much work its going to take to fix my sec status when the time comes. This change directly affects me.

Also, calling me out about having any authority on the subject from a character with 1 kill and 2 losses in the last year and a half just makes you look like an idiot, or a coward posting from an alt. I've had to fix my sec status up numerous times. Its a consequence of breaking the law in EvE. I took my punishment like a man, did what I had to do, and got back to empire. Considering you've likely never left high sec, I don't think you can grasp the concept at all.

So it does directly effect you, then--you just said it didn't--which is it?

Killboards are the only credible source of information on whether a person knows a game, especially a game which allows and encourages alts, and mostly not knowing who the main and who the alt/s is/are.

This is not a PvP-focussed character, obviously. I started this game with one of those, and my/its corp-rules require a =/> -1.99 security status for merc-work and general wardecs, even if you've been on a suicide-ganking spree for the last 5 days straight. Hence my/its recent exile to the aforementioned NPC null tourist-spot

And being afwaaaaid of the big bad scawwy piwates is the only reason people post on different characters, ever.

You just keep telling yourself that, little boy.

Whatever.

You sound like a self-important kid who thinks he's a real bad-ass because he urp-sploded a bunch of Internet-pixels on an Internet video-game. I got news for you, you aren't: Grow up FFS.

Or better yet, just **** off, you big bad scawwy piwate...

Not to hijack the thread, but...

Is it time for another Incursion-interdiction? On a massive--ideally throughout all of hisec at once, without let-up--on-going scale this time 'round, too.

Just throwing that out there.

To all those people saying that -10 pilots don't give a f**k anyway, I'll tell you right now, it sucks having to rat up your sec status so random rifters won't try and bother you. Yes, you can instapop them anyway, and yes it's always funny to see 30 T1 frigates swarm your 4 man group of RR tempests. I, for one, would love to be able to get my sec status back up to AT LEAST -2.0 in a reasonable amount of time. I've done it once already in order to join a merc corp, and it took FOREVER (almost literally. About 5 hours a day, 7 days a week for a whole month of nothing but grinding belt rats in GW).

Until CCP changes this, Darius has my 270mm artillery guns to create tears at Jita 4-4

We've already managed to cause CCP to hastily patch two methods we used to inflict pain upon the incursioners. They seem dedicated to ensuring the safety of highsec isk printing in all its forms, so I don't think any incursion interdiction would last for long. The more you push it, the more CCP will push back in order to maintain the status quo.

I must say, you guys did fine job at that. I was thoroughly impressed.

What really needs to be done is to kick the kids out of the cradle. I know that CCP would probably never due this because they are scared to death at losing subscribers from the 80% or so of the EVE population that regularly lives in highsec. However, I have an alternative proposal to include ideas for lowsec buffs:

- Incursion Nerf: Either nerf the income of Vanguard sites or make only 1 highsec Incursion at any one point and time to create more competition and contests to finish the site. You want the ISK and LP, then you better bring a capable fleet that can beat out others. If that means running heavy on DPS and reducing the income for the fleet members, so be it. Another idea is to randomly adjust triggers so that an FC has to be on his feet to clear sites. There should be more risk for the profits.

- Expand Lowsec: Turn 1/4 to 1/3rd of Empire highsec into Lowsec. Create more Lowsec pockets in between trade lanes. If you want to travel from Amarr to Jita, you gotta jump through lowsec. If you're in a freighter, you better have a combat escort team with some logi support. Roll the change into a release - say that criminals have taken over some of highsec and driven out Concord. Whatever lore you need to makeup to do this, just do it...please!

- Nerf Gate and Station Guns: POS guns don't have perfect tracking, and neither should gate or station guns. This would also make Inty's finally viable for gatecamping or engaging those who try to fight on gates. Frig warfare in lowsec is utterly terrible because of this issue. Reduce gate/station gun DPS by 15-20% in lowsec.

- GCC Timers: I'm in agreement with several of the CSM candidates on this one. GCC timers are painfully long and kill the pace of things in lowsec. Pirates are people too with lives and commitments IRL. If I have to wait 15 min every time I shoot something it eats up a large part of my game time. GCC should be relative to the security of the area. Bump it to 20 min in highsec, 10min for 0.4 to 0.3 systems, 5 min for 0.2 to 0.1. If you jump from a 0.3 to 0.2 system with GCC the maintains the penalty from the system you committed the crime in.

- Minerals: Veldspar would be the only ore available in highsec. You want Pyroxeres, Kernite, Scordite, etc etc...you gotta go to lowsec. Bring a protective fleet with you. Hell, you may even see some people who's mains are pirates finally create mining alts because it's suddenly become profitable. If there's one thing I agree with Mittens on, it's the Predator-Prey foodchain. Miners provide PVP opportunities to pirates. If you want to mine in lowsec, you need to have a corp with sufficient assets and pilots to defend your space to mine safely, just as you do in nullsec

- Concord Changes: While I'm a pirate, its not fair to only defend the pirate platform and talking points. In the remaining areas of highsec Concord should have quicker response times...seeing as the pirates in lowsec and such will have much more activity and entertainment they won't have to venture so much to suicide gank those who do live in highsec.

- Make Level 4 Missions Unblitzable: We talk about people making gobs of cash on L4's all the time and the amount of inflation that all the extra ISK causes. It's not the bounties that make a majority of the cash, it's the LP. People with half a brain can make craptons of ISK by blitzing L4's, converting the LP to more profitable items and then reselling them on the market.

- Better Anom drops in Lowsec: I've lived in lowsec for quite awhile, and during the downtime I like to run anoms to make some extra cash to replace my losses by finding some decent shiny. But guess what? It's rare as hell that I find anything good in lowsec. If CCP claims that they buffed lowsec anoms, I'm sure as hell not seeing it, and I've been working my ass off at it because there is NOTHING ELSE TO DO HERE! I'd go as far to say that 80% of time time I only find a crappy faction module worth only 5 mil that next to nobody wants or needs. If you make lowsec drops better, you will see more people coming from high to lowsec to get them. That adds more than just your miners and haulers to the Predator - Prey foodchain.

Would the gentleman also like a pony?

Good morning angry pirates. I would like to confirm that the sec status not being shared issue is a defect, not a stealth nerf, and we are currently working on a fix.

Good morning angry pirates. I would like to confirm that the sec status not being shared issue is a defect, not a stealth nerf, and we are currently working on a fix.

and please could you tell us if the badger that i, being a pro pvp'er and all, solo killed in a gate in losec, found the wreck to be yellow, indicating it's not mine to loot. and also i got a second gcc hit when i popped the ugly yellow piece of scrap floating around the gate. dont we get to keep what we kill anymore? im not big on reading the update blogs but im sure this is a very recent change.

Can you comment on any of the other recent discoveries that may be either bugs or stealth nerfs?

One specific is not being allowed to board ships while GCC

The concord warning also now defaults to 'No' instead of 'Yes' which makes it a bit of a faff when trying to liberate shinies from people on autopilot.

No idea if this was intended or not as it wasn't in patch notes. If it is intended, any chance we can get a checkbox so we never have to see it again, similar to the aggressive action pop-up?

This is minor issue with a workaround. Hit TAB then ENTER. We would like to see "Yes" being the default though, OR you could make the tick Box actually work that says "Turn off this warning".

Make new popup if yes selected with DIRE WARNING WOOP WOOP WOOP etc bad things can happen. It is redundant to have a warning box that you tick to ignore, never be ignored. I understand that it could cause a few problems, yes, but the Lowsec one works. Up to CCP to decide if the bad outwieghs the good on this one though.

One very serious issue with suicide gankers is the glitch with faction police that re-aggroes you sometimes long after the real warning is gone. I have seen this glitch persist for sometimes HOURS even after pilots dock, wait 30 minutes to undock and then get re-aggroed. This has been an issue for literally years, addressing that would make all suicide gankers very pleased.

This is minor issue with a workaround. Hit TAB then ENTER. We would like to see "Yes" being the default though, OR you could make the tick Box actually work that says "Turn off this warning".

Good morning angry pirates. I would like to confirm that the sec status not being shared issue is a defect, not a stealth nerf, and we are currently working on a fix.

I must say, you guys did fine job at that. I was thoroughly impressed.

What really needs to be done is to kick the kids out of the cradle. I know that CCP would probably never do this because they are scared to death at losing subscribers from the 80% or so of the EVE population that regularly lives in highsec. However, I have an alternative proposal to include ideas for lowsec buffs:

- Incursion Nerf: Either nerf the income of Vanguard sites or make only 1 highsec Incursion at any one point and time to create more competition and contests to finish the site. You want the ISK and LP, then you better bring a capable fleet that can beat out others. If that means running heavy on DPS and reducing the income for the fleet members, so be it. Another idea is to randomly adjust triggers so that an FC has to be on his feet to clear sites. There should be more risk for the profits.

- Expand Lowsec: Turn 1/4 to 1/3rd of Empire highsec into Lowsec. Create more Lowsec pockets in between trade lanes. If you want to travel from Amarr to Jita, you gotta jump through lowsec. If you're in a freighter, you better have a combat escort team with some logi support. Roll the change into a release - say that criminals have taken over some of highsec and driven out Concord. Whatever lore you need to makeup to do this, just do it...please!

- Nerf Gate and Station Guns: POS guns don't have perfect tracking, and neither should gate or station guns. This would also make Inty's finally viable for gatecamping or engaging those who try to fight on gates. Frig warfare in lowsec is utterly terrible because of this issue. Reduce gate/station gun DPS by 15-20% in lowsec.

- GCC Timers: I'm in agreement with several of the CSM candidates on this one. GCC timers are painfully long and kill the pace of things in lowsec. Pirates are people too with lives and commitments IRL. If I have to wait 15 min every time I shoot something it eats up a large part of my game time. GCC should be relative to the security of the area. Bump it to 20 min in highsec, 10min for 0.4 to 0.3 systems, 5 min for 0.2 to 0.1. If you jump from a 0.3 to 0.2 system with GCC the maintains the penalty from the system you committed the crime in.

- Minerals: Veldspar would be the only ore available in highsec. You want Pyroxeres, Kernite, Scordite, etc etc...you gotta go to lowsec. Bring a protective fleet with you. Hell, you may even see some people who's mains are pirates finally create mining alts because it's suddenly become profitable. If there's one thing I agree with Mittens on, it's the Predator-Prey foodchain. Miners provide PVP opportunities to pirates. If you want to mine in lowsec, you need to have a corp with sufficient assets and pilots to defend your space to mine safely, just as you do in nullsec

- Concord Changes: While I'm a pirate, its not fair to only defend the pirate platform and talking points. In the remaining areas of highsec Concord should have quicker response times...seeing as the pirates in lowsec and such will have much more activity and entertainment they won't have to venture so much to suicide gank those who do live in highsec.

- Make Level 4 Missions Unblitzable: We talk about people making gobs of cash on L4's all the time and the amount of inflation that all the extra ISK causes. It's not the bounties that make a majority of the cash, it's the LP. People with half a brain can make craptons of ISK by blitzing L4's, converting the LP to more profitable items and then reselling them on the market.

- Better Anom drops in Lowsec: I've lived in lowsec for quite awhile, and during the downtime I like to run anoms to make some extra cash to replace my losses by finding some decent shiny. But guess what? It's rare as hell that I find anything good in lowsec. If CCP claims that they buffed lowsec anoms, I'm sure as hell not seeing it, and I've been working my ass off at it because there is NOTHING ELSE TO DO HERE! I'd go as far to say that 80% of time time I only find a crappy faction module worth only 5 mil that next to nobody wants or needs. If you make lowsec drops better, you will see more people coming from high to lowsec to get them. That adds more than just your miners and haulers to the Predator - Prey foodchain.