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Baaldor
Sin Factory Anarchy Unlimited
64
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:37:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Good morning angry pirates. I would like to confirm that the sec status not being shared issue is a defect, not a stealth nerf, and we are currently working on a fix. HOLY F#@#@ING **** Thank god! /me BIG HUG
Have no idea why you are so excited.
You realize that half the crap on the "Working on a fix" list from all the way back to Beta has never been fixed or has been anointed a feature?
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Anja Talis
Mimidae Risk Solutions
49
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:49:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Good morning angry pirates. I would like to confirm that the sec status not being shared issue is a defect, not a stealth nerf, and we are currently working on a fix.
Yaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
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Anja Talis
Mimidae Risk Solutions
49
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:50:00 -
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Baaldor wrote:Bloodpetal wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Good morning angry pirates. I would like to confirm that the sec status not being shared issue is a defect, not a stealth nerf, and we are currently working on a fix. HOLY F#@#@ING **** Thank god! /me BIG HUG Have no idea why you are so excited. You realize that half the crap on the "Working on a fix" list from all the way back to Beta has never been fixed or has been anointed a feature?
Because it's finally been acknowledged as a bug, introduced in crucible. New debt is usually easier to fix than old debt, so it's probably likely to get looked at, especially while CCP are all with the little fixes stuff. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
93
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:55:00 -
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Daemon Ceed wrote:Well thanks for letting us officially know it's a defect. Any ETA on when this will get fixed, because this sort of stuff is getting extremely annoying
I don't really like to give out specific dates for stuff like this because a) I'm not the guy making the fix and b) I don't like to make promises that aren't mine to keep. It's certainly not going to get benched, I'm confident enough to say that. CCP Goliath | Engineering Team Lead |
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Baaldor
Sin Factory Anarchy Unlimited
64
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:16:00 -
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Anja Talis wrote:Baaldor wrote:Bloodpetal wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Good morning angry pirates. I would like to confirm that the sec status not being shared issue is a defect, not a stealth nerf, and we are currently working on a fix. HOLY F#@#@ING **** Thank god! /me BIG HUG Have no idea why you are so excited. You realize that half the crap on the "Working on a fix" list from all the way back to Beta has never been fixed or has been anointed a feature? Because it's finally been acknowledged as a bug, introduced in crucible. New debt is usually easier to fix than old debt, so it's probably likely to get looked at, especially while CCP are all with the little fixes stuff.
Never stop believing. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
756
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:28:00 -
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Anja Talis wrote: Because it's finally been acknowledged as a bug, introduced in crucible. New debt is usually easier to fix than old debt, so it's probably likely to get looked at, especially while CCP are all with the little fixes stuff.
It's also easier to find in terms of figuring out what code change broke the item, because the change is still relatively fresh in the mind of whoever broke it. Rather then being due to some old crufty code that nobody has looked at in 3+ years and you'd have to spend a few hours trying to first understand the code before you can identify what is wrong or how to fix it. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
189
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:57:00 -
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Actually, the Concord window was actually the biggest issue for me, personally - until a solution was found. Though making it even harder to grind up sec status is clearly unwelcomed.....even if just a bug.
When ganking a single target with a Cat, doing a 'TAB-Enter' keyboard dance isn't a big deal.
But say, when trying to gank a string of Retrievers with 4 groups of 2x guns on a Tornado, you start to see the problem.
Target Retriever #1 *Are you sure?" Tab-Enter Target Retriever #2 "Are you sure?" Tab-Enter Target Reriever #3 "Are you sure?" Tab-Enter Target Retriever #4 "Are you sure?" Tab-Enter
Reload guns, Target Mack #5 with 4x turrets "Are you sure?" Tab-Enter Target Mack #6 with 4x turrets Are you sure? "Tab - damn, Concord got me.
See the problem? Hitting Enter over and over was bad enough, but forcing you to jump all over the keyboard while trying to target with the mouse, while under a very tight Concord time window is just stupid, throwing up artificial barriers to actions that should be very streamlined and effortless. Miners escaped death as a direct result of this.
An option to turn off the window entirely in highsec would be highly welcomed for my -10 Alt. Barring this, disabling the pop-up for anyone who already HAS a GCC, as warning you about the GCC when Concord is already on the way is illogical and needless. |
Anja Talis
Mimidae Risk Solutions
50
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:33:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Anja Talis wrote: Because it's finally been acknowledged as a bug, introduced in crucible. New debt is usually easier to fix than old debt, so it's probably likely to get looked at, especially while CCP are all with the little fixes stuff.
It's also easier to find in terms of figuring out what code change broke the item, because the change is still relatively fresh in the mind of whoever broke it. Rather then being due to some old crufty code that nobody has looked at in 3+ years and you'd have to spend a few hours trying to first understand the code before you can identify what is wrong or how to fix it.
Exactly :D |
Anja Talis
Mimidae Risk Solutions
50
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:33:00 -
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Baaldor wrote: Never stop believing.
Glee fan huh?
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Baaldor
Sin Factory Anarchy Unlimited
65
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:46:00 -
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Anja Talis wrote:Baaldor wrote: Never stop believing.
Glee fan huh?
Nope, just bitter and jaded.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
189
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:11:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Darius III wrote: One specific is not being allowed to board ships while GCC
This was a fix to an exploit that ended up having wide-ranging consequences.
Ah, I see what Goliath is talking about now. Boarding a ship never seemed to be particularly bad - it just allowed gankers to get in the zone faster, without waiting 15 minutes for the cooldown.
Its not just 'boarding' a ship while GCC'd that was changed. Its also 'ejecting' from a ship while GCC'd.
Noticed it today, as occasionally I'll eject before Concord death in order to get my outlaw pod clear faster, so I can get on with looting...
---Now you get some kind of message about destroying evidence and not allowed to change ships...
The 'wide ranging consequences' he is talking about is the ability of gankers to kill several hundred Exhumers with a single Tornado, or other BC and smaller gankship.
Good to see that someone finally forced them to fix the game. Also good to see that they fixed an actual exploit, rather than just nerfing clever tactics.
Still, would like to see something done about that GCC popup, reverting the default setting at a minimum.
-oh yes, and the botters that are still dominating ice belts everywhere. We do the hard work and identify them for you. CCP you just need to start handing out warnings and bans. I've been watching the same groups for months now, reporting and petitioning them continuously. Still there, still automated. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
134
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:31:00 -
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Dec scraping is still legal.
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IsTheOpOver
79
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Posted - 2012.03.17 07:32:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote: -oh yes, and the botters that are still dominating ice belts everywhere. We do the hard work and identify them for you. CCP you just need to start handing out warnings and bans. I've been watching the same groups for months now, reporting and petitioning them continuously. Still there, still automated.
How can this be? I'm assuming you kill/pod them every time?
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rareden
Privateers Privateer Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.03.18 21:20:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Darius III wrote: One specific is not being allowed to board ships while GCC
This was a fix to an exploit that ended up having wide-ranging consequences.
an exploit seems to be anything a pirate or greifer does against a carebear these days |
Ezra Tair
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 00:46:00 -
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I'll say a couple things
1-Worst sec grind I ever had to do was -5.4 to -1.8 took two weeks of casual low-sec chain ratting 2-Immersion wise, security status should be alot harsher 3-If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime
Alot of the nerfs are to the meta-gaming methods players devised. For immersion's sake, they got closed. I do not think the change to War Dec mechanics is necessarily a good idea, but immersion wise. Althought if you make 3/4 of a corp leave, you did your damage. That you don't get any good ganks out of it is your problem, choose targets that can't afford to drop corp. Choosing indy corps that pretty much only use the corp as a chat channel or tax haven are not good targets now
Low sec is busteling with activity still. If you don't mind fighting semi-organized pirate & FWgangs or FW gangs. |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
37
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Posted - 2012.03.19 15:05:00 -
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Ezra Tair wrote:I'll say a couple things
1-Worst sec grind I ever had to do was -5.4 to -1.8 took two weeks of casual low-sec chain ratting 2-Immersion wise, security status should be alot harsher 3-If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime
Alot of the nerfs are to the meta-gaming methods players devised. For immersion's sake, they got closed. I do not think the change to War Dec mechanics is necessarily a good idea, but immersion wise. Althought if you make 3/4 of a corp leave, you did your damage. That you don't get any good ganks out of it is your problem, choose targets that can't afford to drop corp. Choosing indy corps that pretty much only use the corp as a chat channel or tax haven are not good targets now
Low sec is busteling with activity still. If you don't mind fighting semi-organized pirate & FWgangs or FW gangs.
You know about the 5 minute delay between sec increases right? or was it 15 minutes. Grinding sec is easy in a string of low/null, warp jump warp kill bs warp jump warp kill bs. Doesnt take long at all to raise your stat back up. |
Ash Stewart
The Tenori Tigers Un.Bound
3
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:41:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Its true that if CCP are actually interested in luring people into the deadzone that is losec, they need to make it appealing to go there.
Casual PVP roaming is possibly one of the biggest / most accesible reasons to go there if it isnt your permanent home.
CCP are kinda shooting themselves in the foot with this change.
There should be a system in place where bounties and standing increases from NPC kills are shared equally between all in fleet.
They say there's no I in team, but there is now when theres a 1M isk bounty rat sitting in a belt and you need the sec status.
why bother with low sec when you can go null? (no security drops either). Any casual pvpers brave enough? :P
Tip --- scout null with covert ops ... find a relatively quiet area (know your locals, have safes, etc), then return in your pvp ships and find targets.
Simple......
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |
VegasMirage
Empire Douchebag Eviction Board
26
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:12:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:I'm not a [hi sec] pirate myself, nor do I ever intend to become one.
However, as a valuable segment of this game, I feel piracy needs a little more attention than this. This change does sound like it was not well thought out.
fixed that for you bro |
Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:01:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Daemon Ceed wrote:Well thanks for letting us officially know it's a defect. Any ETA on when this will get fixed, because this sort of stuff is getting extremely annoying I don't really like to give out specific dates for stuff like this because a) I'm not the guy making the fix and b) I don't like to make promises that aren't mine to keep. It's certainly not going to get benched, I'm confident enough to say that.
Yeah no need to hurry up on this one. It's only been a few months since this new bug feature was introduced and reported in many places. Considering it took about 3? months to get confirmation that this actually IS a bug we should see a fix by 2014. |
Flaming Head
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:46:00 -
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Darius...the ganking alt of this alt's main will begin infiltrating corps and destroying mining ops and helpless Orcas immediately.
Your dedication to tears makes me so excited I could explode in a carebear's face. |
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Liiza Valora
the united Negative Ten.
4
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:57:00 -
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Sorry to burst your bubble Darius but word on the street is CCP will be adding PvP flags for any action taken anywhere in the game. Since CCP long ago sold the sand out of the box that we knew as EVE-ONLINE, PvP flags is one of the last things left they can use to save their current majority of paying player base, high-sec carebears. Mark my words when FAIL-514 hits CCP will have to add PvP flags into EVE because anyone that they want to pull into EVE from FAIL-514 won't want to play it otherwise.
EVE conversion into World of Failcraft is 80% complete. |
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1304
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Posted - 2012.03.30 19:52:00 -
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There are great things coming for pirates soon, don't think that CCP has turned their backs on us. They take our way of life seriously and I think people will be loving the coming changes, and by people-I mean MY people: Pirates, killers, mercs, Gankers, griefers, Awoxers, stealers, muggers, hit men, con artists, etc CCP has rededicated themselves to improving Eve and are by and large doing a terrific job at it. My personal faith in them is largely restored. I think the coming changes will revitalize Eve and bring joy to the masses. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
199
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:05:00 -
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Darius III wrote: There are great things coming for pirates soon, don't think that CCP has turned their backs on us. They take our way of life seriously and I think people will be loving the coming changes, and by people-I mean MY people: Pirates, killers, mercs, Gankers, griefers, Awoxers, stealers, muggers, hit men, con artists, etc
I trust you, Darius, but I don't trust CCP. When there's glitter and bits of horn-meat on my fork, *then* I'll believe we're having unicorn for dinner. |
takedoom
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
16
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:10:00 -
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Liiza Valora wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble Darius but word on the street is CCP will be adding PvP flags for any action taken anywhere in the game. Since CCP long ago sold the sand out of the box that we knew as EVE-ONLINE, PvP flags is one of the last things left they can use to save their current majority of paying player base, high-sec carebears. Mark my words when FAIL-514 hits CCP will have to add PvP flags into EVE because anyone that they want to pull into EVE from FAIL-514 won't want to play it otherwise.
EVE conversion into World of Failcraft is 80% complete.
The game will be called "Mining Online". Mining Online would include epic gravimetric raids with a chance of spawning a few frigate class npcs once in awhile that drop purple epic mining lasers. http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/
I am not a thief. I am a treasure hunter. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2009
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:03:00 -
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I wanted to make a good joke about 'lol epic tier III's' but got bored.
It's fair to say the dedication of people go to to circumvent high-sec limitations is impressive but at the same time expecting what is essentially game-breaking activity to survive nerfbats is quite something.
No one should expect bumping and solo suicide ganking of such targets but at the same time I would find it pretty unreasonable were CCP to remove the 'dump your crap in an Orca post-gank' ability.
Whatever happens there should ALWAYS at least be some methods of ensuring high-sec is not entirely safe. This runs deep into the spirit and balance of all activity in New Eden. I know I make disparaging remarks about high-sec PVPers that seek to minimise their risk while acting like super hard ... whatevers.... but, this stuff is actually important in the grand scheme.
With a few tweaks, the 'suspect' flagging and proposed crimewatch stuff should actually exponentially open up the opportunity for high-sec shenanigans, albeit not against individuals but ANYONE that thinks they can take down a criminal. The main thing that makes this seem attractive to me is simple. You essentially can flag yourself to every random person on-grid simply by going suspect. These people then think 'lollol lets smoke this noob' much like they currently try to do with anyone that goes GCC. Currently they think Concord will keep them safe and the pirate will not last long enough to kill them. That much is reasonable to believe. What COULD* happen after the flagging changes is that they assume since everyone on grid can attack you that they will go down. Since you have no concord coming in to save you, all you then have to do is position yourself successfully so you can only be liable to damage from a minimum of targets. This involves some actual risk, requires some degree of competence from you and also should ultimately be more rewarding. Yes this is a post-pub ramble and most likely obvious to everyone already but there you go.
Interesting times ahead.
*COULD because it depends if CCP allow you to actually shoot back at anyone that attacks you rather than their ludicrous suggestion that you could not. I seriously doubt that would be the case, and they may indeed have even changed that proposal around by now. I just haven't seen it stated anywhere. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
97
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:12:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I know I make disparaging remarks about high-sec PVPers that seek to minimise their risk while acting like super hard ... whatevers.... but, this stuff is actually important in the grand scheme.
[quote=Lady Spank] Yes this is a post-pub ramble
Well that clears that up :3 |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2010
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:19:00 -
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Thanks for reading the actual content of that post genius. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
99
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:21:00 -
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I can count to potato! |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2010
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:23:00 -
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If that's true then I went ahead and edited my post to assist you. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lord breathenstein
Crimson Nation En Garde
2
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Posted - 2012.03.31 05:01:00 -
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Aine Ni wrote:Got to love those Pirate Tears HTFU - This is WOW
Corrected ^^^^^ |
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