I'm a fairly new player and although I do not know much about the game yet, I can tell you that my first few days in eve has been bewildering, furstrating, confusing and sometimes enjoyable.

The skill training is not something I'm used to. Since I've played EQ1 it was level bar in that filled by killing rats and snakes and completing quests. The more you put in the more you progressed. I log onto eve and I see things are done over time, fair enough I think this is something that everyone in the game will have to go through. I ask for advise get 100 different answers.

Some suggested that I just buy some isk and train my implants up to lvl and not log in for a week! You can guess how that made me feel. It felt as if I was wasting my time in the game since no matter what i did in the game, a guy who just logs on to fix his training que and logs back out again could be ahead of me because he buys ISK to get the best implants. That made me feel like ****

Another thing is the contradictory advice you get in what to train and how best to move farward in the game and the how the career paths diverge. For example, say I want to PVP but use mining and industry to fund it. That simply isn't realistic and these sort of restrictions furstrate me although I accept it's part of the consequences of my choices. However I hate the idea of being given the choice of choosing one path over another or

I would make one suggestion. Before the game starts I would have the game ask a player what their chosen career path would be. If they say Industry, put them in a n00b corp for industry. If the say PVP put them in a n00b corp for that so they can get into a corp that is relevant to their interest.

Coming from other mainstream titles, EVE was a breath of fresh air. I started playing in the midst of the Incarna rollout and if nothing else, the Jita riots sealed the deal for me. For a playerbase to show such emotion and effect change I knew I stumbled on something great.

I liked your post, but noob corps aren't the answer. Blind leading the blind and all.

The best thing you could possibly do is get out of noob corps for good. Obviously I'm going to suggest combat PVE, to synergize with your goal of PVP combat.

But don't grind too much. Go out and have fun in cheaper, throwaway ships. Who knows, you might find a faction spawn out in low-sec. I did. On my third day subbed. In a frigate. I got a Halo Beta for my troubles, even though I didn't get any player kills that night!

The ISK sorts itself out in time.

There have been some very good responses in this thread and of course the expected "nothing is wrong", "show proof" and other non-contributing responses. Thanks for those, folks.

The high barrier to running Incursions and runaway inflation due to riskless "PVE" in high-sec would drive any new player away from the game. Think about it, running missions or frigate mining/hauling for paltry ISK sucks when the Incursion fleet you can't join is devaluing ISK faster than you can earn it. What possible incentive does a new player who doesn't hook up with a decent player corporation really have for staying subbed to Eve? Oh snap!

I liked your post, but noob corps aren't the answer. Blind leading the blind and all.

The best thing you could possibly do is get out of noob corps for good. Obviously I'm going to suggest combat PVE, to synergize with your goal of PVP combat.

But don't grind too much. Go out and have fun in cheaper, throwaway ships. Who knows, you might find a faction spawn out in low-sec. I did. On my third day subbed. In a frigate. I got a Halo Beta for my troubles, even though I didn't get any player kills that night!

The ISK sorts itself out in time.

I would say instead of newbie corps, a system that gives you a list of registered player corps relevant to your career path and forces you to join one is a nice idea. It dumps you in the game with people who play how you want to and who actually want to help you because they benefit from it as well.

What you said makes no sense in relation to my post.

Eve doesn't require alt scouts or alt tackle. So I don't complain that it does.

The booster alts however are becoming required if you want to be competitive. You don't need to get upset just because you use them. I don't blame you - its a huge advantage. I'm training one myself. But certainly if I knew the game was going to force me down this path I probably would not have installed it.

Nevertheless ask new players what they think about starting into a game where you will be at a severe disadvantage if you do not dual box these alts. Ask it however you want you don't have to use my wording - if that is your issue.

Eve doesn't require alt scouts or alt tackle

You're pretty fail TBH. You can incursion in a logi, which is cheap and quick to get into.

CCP Diagoras published the data on it, actually.

-Liang

I thought I saw a video of you in a talos with an extremely long point. Maybe it was faction or something like that. Or maybe that wasn't you. I don't know. So let me ask: were you in a talos getting the benefit of someones booster alt?

I am not calling for a pity party I am just observing some facts. The facts are off grid alt boosters give huge combat advantages to those who use them. Are you denying this?

Do you think that prevalance of them is increasing, decreasing, or staying the same?

I'm pretty sure I know the answers. But who knows maybe diagoras or past qens could give us some answers if you aren't convinced the game is going in this direction.

Again I am training one myself because they are just too large of an advantage not to use. But I know having to use that alt account will make eve more of a chore.

As far as your comments regarding the wording of questions regarding booster alts. How would you ask it? It doesn't matter how you ask the question. The above facts won't change. And these facts are likely to be a big turn off for new players and old players alike.

Making these sorts of short term cash gains is not good for the long term health of the game. I realize it may be necessary for ccp to do this now, but I hope they are planning on undoing this in the future once the financial issues pan out.