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Anvil44
Independent Traders and Builders MPA
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Posted - 2012.03.15 15:54:00 -
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I understand and heartily approve of trying to fix people's log in issues first. That is the big one. However, each time I log in and see an update, I am almost holding my breath in anticipation of fixing the sound issue. Believe it or not, sound is a vital clue to what is happening when you are playing. This makes doing anything in the less safe areas of space (gank filled space, low/null/unknown space, mining during Hulkageddon - should that ever happen again) much more difficult. Half the environmental noises are drowned out by the sounds of shield boosters and hardeners. Really really sucks.
This should never have slipped in on the update. I have read that people that tested on Sisi saw this bug. Why would you take the attitude of shipping with this bug to fix later? Bad, bad idea. Especially since I don't think this version provided anything that NEEDED to be out there.
If we did this where I work, and I had said yes to sending out software this way, I would be unemployed right now. Thank goodness we have a small IT department and my manager believes in testing and not pushing anything through until we know it is ready for our network. Good communication, good organization, good procedures. We really limit the amount of issues we encounter to what is reasonable to expect from our limited resources. I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it. |
Stephen Ambrye
Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 15:58:00 -
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The ESET workaround worked out for me. But now I log on and I find that Missions are broken... I warp to an encounter that doesn't exist. Bravo CCP. |
Voxinian
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:01:00 -
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Merlin Joda wrote:
Only one way how to solve this is "disable the sounds", otherwise your head will blow up from all that sounds around.
Or fly a noctis.. That ship has no sounds at all atm. |
Da'Lorien
DeathGames Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:11:00 -
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Marlakh wrote:Not sure what went wrong, this was the messiest patch in my 6+ years of playing. Really hope you can improve the patch QA in the future, CCP. Thankfully no skill training interruption. Thanks anyway and fly wild, everyone![/b]
Nah not even close, dont you remember when the Trinity was launched and boot.ini fix fubarred lots of computers??
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Jaden Plymoth
Iacio Iaculum
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:29:00 -
[695] - Quote
Ok, finally got my client to update, though I had to jump through hoops to do it. CCP this one is probably not your fault, and more my Comm's squadron's fault.
Ok, so I realized that the Launcher was getting the incorrect patch information from the website. To get it fixed, I had to go into the launcher's cache directory and edit 'win_launcherinfoTQ_inc.txt' to direct the launcher at the same text file at a different location with the correct information I acquired from a friend. Of course, the update failed as the patch files weren't at the location I pointed it at. But I had already receieved the new patch file from said friend. Having gotten the launcher to acknowledge an update was required, I was able to import the new patch file and succesfully patch my client. I am now logged in and able to play the game.
This is most definantly just a work around, one that requires an aweful lot of work considering I couldn't get the launcher to read a location from my local disk and had to upload the file onto the internet and use an HTTP protocol. But fact is it now works. |
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:30:00 -
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After Day 3 with this crap you call "launcher" I have to say, that CCP fails again in a unprecedented dimension. The announced benefit, to only download patches once, is a totally lie. Every time I open this craplauncher this sh!t updates itself without any chance to load a previous downloaded patchfile. I can not abort the automatism to downloading patches every time one new patch is available. I have lost the overview of the current build of EVE and the current, at present valid, patch notes.
Please implement a link to the patch note site of eve online and please trash this fugging sh!t with Facebook; Twitter; YouTube and Google+. Are you dumb at CCP? I want to play EVE and not read a advertisement of EVE from an unsavoury website.
Show important news or a link to the patch notes in this launcher or let it be and let tis launcher die! It has no function at this moment. Downloading a patch once and use this patch several times is a lie! That does NOT work. Your whole launcher does not work at some customers computers.
Really CCP I have lost my patience with such stup!d and dumb developers. You have more than enough feedback from the test-server; more than enough proposals to REAL IMPROVE the game; and all you are able to present is renaming stuff; a idiocy "new" rookieship which is trashed within the first minutes in EVE; a messed up overview without a function of sorting and with this sh!t of MouseOverlock and a EVE launcher which keeps more players out of the game than a sexy, naughty beach party with half naked jailbaits.
Who must I cick in the arse that you awake from your dream to be the best company with the best game ever in the internet? At this moment you are ignorant id!ots who are headless looking for a bucket of water to extinguish a fire in a gas station.
ROLL BACK THIS LAST PATCH and take your sh!t "improvemts" to the overview with you. Try this crap after 6 month development again or trash the whole concept of an launcher. NOBODY WANTS THIS CRAP!
I play this game since nearly 4 years. And all I really like is the "Training Queue". The rest is not useable for me. If CCP would not had charged my bank account for the next rate for EVE, I would quit. My fire for EVE is gone... completely.
You ignore your community and you ignore me.. why should I give my money to liars and incompetend developers like CCP? |
Glarbl Blarbl
Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau
3
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:49:00 -
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Sorry to threadjack, but this doesn't help people on mac at all. And at least you guys have a dev talking to you... CCP Cascade made a brief appearance on the mac thread 2 or 3 days ago and we have not seen any movement in terms of making macbooks usable again.
The launcher is broken on mac, it's still saying it's version 1.04. Is anyone at CCP aware of this and are you doing anything about it? When will I be able to play on my macbook pro again? I've done a ****-ton of legwork trying to help narrow down the cause and provide you with information....
and all I hear are crickets....
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ScubaFunatic
Taigi Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:04:00 -
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Ok I got the Client working after enless retries.
1. Downloaded ewest (FULL) files from EvE Online 2. Un-Installed old Eve 3. Cleared all Folders (Delete) from users folders and games folders 4. Installed new EVE_Online_Installer_351477.exe 5. After installation did NOT Auto start the game. 6 Run EvEFile.Exe from bin folder
This bypasses the Launcher and the client is up to date. Antivirus is running - Firewall is running... now lets see what the client looks like
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Particul
Crinkly Ninjas
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:36:00 -
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I got a long, complicated error when the launcher did a patch update ( trying to cut and paste it failed as it said I could not post html). I can get on to the game and play, but I can only assume it will fail at some point - not the most cheering news)
First part of the error message :-
Exception during UpdaterModule.Updat Traceback (most recent call last) File "lib\update.pyc", line 527, in Updat File "lib\update.pyc", line 576, in _Updat File "lib\update.pyc", line 304, in Ru File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1442, in ApplyPatc File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1478, in RunDeleteOperation File "zsync\zsync.pyc", line 1497, in DeleteFil WindowsError: [Error 32] The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\debug.log |
Zedolf
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:00:00 -
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Particul wrote:I got a long, complicated error when the launcher did a patch update ( trying to cut and paste it failed as it said I could not post html). I can get on to the game and play, but I can only assume it will fail at some point - not the most cheering news)
Had this as well. I've been online since downtime (which is when I got the error), though, and no problem yet. |
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raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:11:00 -
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Hey guys, i recently have demanded CCP to compensate everyone who is having or had had trouble with the new EVE Crucible 1.5 release, namely losing game and real life time time because of CCP's incompetense and reckless lack of proper testing and troubleshooting before release. Someone in other costumer assistance forum thread tried to shut me up, so im making this viral and i hope everyone of you who got deprived of the game time they paid for is with me on this, signs this and demands CCP to compensate them with added game time to their accounts too.
Endeavor Starfleet wrote: And no you can't "demand" anything. Especially a PLEX. This is not a contract and you are not guaranteed service
well, lets take a look at what EVE EULA has to say about that
EVE-« Online END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
Chapter 10. LICENSE
Paragraph E
E. New Releases of the Software You are not entitled to receive any new releases of the Software, or any expansion packs, updates, upgrades or similar products under the EULA, but CCP may, in its sole discretion, offer any or all of the foregoing to you. CCP may update, upgrade or otherwise enhance the Software at any time, in its sole discretion, without obligation to you. Periodically, CCP will require all users to migrate to new releases of the Software in order to continue accessing the System and playing EVE. You will be informed when a new release is available and will have a period of time in which to procure and install the new release. You must install and use the new release before the period of time has lapsed to continue accessing the System and playing EVE. If you fail to install the new release when required, CCP shall not be responsible in any way for your inability to access the System or play EVE, and you shall not be entitled to receive a refund of any prepaid subscription fees or any other form of compensation. New releases could be offered to you at a discounted price.
Now lets highlight these parts here:
"You will be informed when a new release is available and will have a period of time in which to procure and install the new release."
- Hum, ok, we did get informed of the new Crucible 1.5 release
"You must install and use the new release before the period of time has lapsed to continue accessing the System and playing EVE. If you fail to install the new release when required, CCP shall not be responsible in any way for your inability to access the System or play EVE, and you shall not be entitled to receive a refund of any prepaid subscription fees or any other form of compensation."
- Well I did fail to install the new release when required, not because I downloaded it only after a long period of time after it came out, but because CCP enforced an update full of bugs with a new launcher system that did not work on my operative system and only released another one that worked (using some workaround tricks that they did not mention) one day later, causing me to be more then one day offline.
Now, when the EULA states here that CCP shall not be responsible in any way for my inability to acess the System or play EVE and I shall not be entitled to compensations, it means to be that way IF I AM THE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT ACCESSING THE GAME ON TIME, which is not the case. IT WAS CLEARLY CCP'S FAULT THAT I LOST MORE THAN 1 DAY OF GAME TIME BY RELEASING OS INCOMPATIBLE AND BUGGED, UNFINISHED SOFTWARE AND MAKING ITS INSTALLATION AND USE MANDATORY TO ACCESS THE SYSTEM.
Thus we may obviously conclude that in this case CCP is in obvious compensation debt for all of those who lost game time, and believe me, now that you brought it up again, I am not staying quiet on this, ITS GOING VIRAL, everyone bruised is gonna sign this and demand compensation. |
Daedalus II
Helios Research Combat Mining and Logistics
105
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:22:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:Inane ramblings... Aiming for the coveted FIOTM (Forum Idiot Of The Month) price I see? |
Jaden Plymoth
Iacio Iaculum
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:26:00 -
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Daedalus II wrote:raven666wings wrote:Inane ramblings... Aiming for the coveted FIOTM (Forum Idiot Of The Month) price I see? No kidding. If you don't have a direct problem that you need advice about, or you aren't trying to work towards fixing the problem and helping to fix all the issues that have caused players to lose game time, then go blow steam off somewhere else. Its morons like you that cause progress to stall out by getting in the way. (Directed at revenwings not Daedalus) |
raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:49:00 -
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im sorry, that post is directed to people who were bruised with this Lulzible 1.5 update, not for corporate ass kisser wannabe DEVs like you lol |
Travis Immortalis
Beyond Evil and Good
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:08:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:im sorry, that post is directed to people who were bruised with this Lulzible 1.5 update, not for corporate ass kisser wannabe DEVs like you couple lol They're not corporate ass-kissers, they're just people who have an ounce of reason in their headsGǪunlike you. While I have to agree that CCP should probably have done more QA testing on this release than they did, it is no reason to raise such a stink as you have done (and yes, pretty much just making a fool of yourself). From looking at your kill/loss history in-game, I really don't understand what you're getting so bent out-of-shape overGǪdo you really want to go back to losing fail-fit ships so badly?
AnywayGǪon to some more worthwhile information, that is actually related to the TOPIC of this thread.
Devs, I'm not having the login issues that are so frequently stated above, and I understand that those issues are your top priority right now. But, I have discerned a little more information on the performance spikes that I described earlier. It appears to somehow be related to Internet Explorer, perhaps version 9, and perhaps the 64-bit edition (since that is what I'm using). I've noticed that besides the spikes that occur in EVE, if I am running EVE while I also have IE open, I see spikes in IE as well (just as severe as the ones in EVE, but FAR more frequently than the rate of occurance in EVE). These performance spikes do NOT correlate with CPU usage, or RAM consumption (ie., when a spike in EVE or IE is observed, there is no spike seen in the CPU usage or RAM consumptionGǪhardware utilization remains normal). Aside from that, I have also observed a minor graphical issue. Cargo containers both appear and disappear in a far more "flashy" fashion than they did before. I think they may have let their ego get the better of them, or they are just starved for attention. Either way, please put them back in their place, CCP.
Thanks for all your hard work, I know patch fiascos like this are very stressful. Just keep breathing, keep working at it, and it will get sorted out eventually. Good luck! |
raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:14:00 -
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forgot to add the "kisses CCP" in there lol |
Wizard UP
Anonymous Operations Gypsy Band
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:20:00 -
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Freakazette
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:29:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:shitstorm
Wow. Chill out, take a breath, and relax. The EULA covers CCP, so there's nothing to go for there. You've been spamming the boards, but it won't help you. CCP is doing all they can to fix all the issues people are having. They're working on it. But, as several people in this thread have pointed out, it doesn't take 10 minutes to debug software and release a new fix.
Also, just because you say something is going "viral" doesn't mean it is. Going viral is not really something people decide for things to be, it's something that happens.
Your attempt to take apart the EULA failed, too bad. Your attempt to yell just makes you look like an impatient boy. I understand that you're annoyed as **** since you can't play. But really, don't you have anything better to do with your time?
Also, people not yelling/screaming/stomping their feet? They're not "ass kissers", it's just the whole "getting mad won't help" thing. Screaming at customer support will just make the CS annoyed with you. Yes, this is CCP's (as a corporation) fault, but go about it in a mature manner.
TL;DR: Stop being an impatient whiny **** and grow up. HTFU.
Fakeedit: *kisses CCP xoxo with love <3* |
raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:34:00 -
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Now if they only changed that EULA sentence to: "CCP shall not be responsible in any way for ITS OWN INABILITY TO TEST AND MAKE UPGRADES WORK BEFORE RELEASE and not letting clients access the System."
Wouldnt that make you happy?
keep playing corporate ass kisser, i think your almost getting promoted lol |
raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:37:00 -
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Freakazette wrote:raven666wings wrote:shitstorm Wow. Chill out, take a breath, and relax. The EULA covers CCP, so there's nothing to go for there. You've been spamming the boards, but it won't help you. CCP is doing all they can to fix all the issues people are having. They're working on it. But, as several people in this thread have pointed out, it doesn't take 10 minutes to debug software and release a new fix. Also, just because you say something is going "viral" doesn't mean it is. Going viral is not really something people decide for things to be, it's something that happens. Your attempt to take apart the EULA failed, too bad. Your attempt to yell just makes you look like an impatient boy. I understand that you're annoyed as **** since you can't play. But really, don't you have anything better to do with your time? Also, people not yelling/screaming/stomping their feet? They're not "ass kissers", it's just the whole "getting mad won't help" thing. Screaming at customer support will just make the CS annoyed with you. Yes, this is CCP's (as a corporation) fault, but go about it in a mature manner. TL;DR: Stop being an impatient whiny **** and grow up. HTFU. Fakeedit: *kisses CCP xoxo with love <3*
my client is already fixed and running sweety, my post is for the people who were bruised and deprived of service they paid for. not conformist reactionary like you |
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Travis Immortalis
Beyond Evil and Good
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:39:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:((insert "spoiled brat" tantrum and childlike attempts at Trolling here)) GǪwhere's the "block" button?
EDIT: Nevermind, found it! |
raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:39:00 -
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EDIT
CCP shall not be responsible in any way for your inability to access the System
Now if they only changed that EULA sentence to: "CCP shall not be responsible in any way for ITS OWN INABILITY TO TEST AND MAKE UPGRADES WORK BEFORE RELEASE and not letting clients access the System."
Wouldnt that make you happy?
keep playing corporate ass kisser, i think your almost getting promoted lol
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raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:43:00 -
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Im gonna need player signatures to sign my post and deliver it to the costumer support and other competent authorities if the customer support department fails to act. everyone who is not pleased for not getting a compensation for your lost game time please comment so i can add you to the list and deliver it |
HaleyBerries
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:52:00 -
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Holy **** ccp what the hell did you do??????????
Eve is causing bluescreens, runs like crap when my computer will run it. Bluescreens ONLY occur when Im running eve, error coming back is one to do with code, not hardware, I forgot to write it down so next time i catch it Ill note it and edit here accordingly with the actual error. I run much more demanding programs on this computer without a SINGLE issue, but the series of patchs lately have gone from eve running like crap to it causing bluescreens.
Comp details:
Windows XP Pro SP3 AMD Athelon II x64 4g ram Ati Radeon HD 4350
I have paid on my credit card for 3 accounts for 2.5 yrs, sometimes paying my 4th account with the same credit card. I understand patch issues happen but when it screws with my operating system cause its that poorly written, causing bluescreens, its enough to make me consider leaving game till you guys get your act together as Eve is NOT worth major damage to my computer. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:56:00 -
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If you don't like not being able to play what you paid for, find another game. Hold CCP accountable.
I suspect this cockup is already going to cost them a bit of money in subscriptions. The only way people learn is from feeling consequences of stupid actions, and releasing this was really, really stupid.
But then, if you look at what they have been doing the last month, it's not a surprise. Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Jaden Plymoth
Iacio Iaculum
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:56:00 -
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Seriously dude, getting upset about it isn't going to get you anywhere. If you could possibly look more like a child right now I don't know how. I haven't really been able to play the game for the last 3 days, and instead of getting all pissy about it and throwing a ***** fit, I put my energies towards figuring out where exactly the problem on my client was, and after I figured out what was causing my own problems, I solved it. If your client is working, then you have no reason to be upset. Yes, other people still can't play, and thats what we, the cool headed problem solvers not working for CCP, are still here watching this thread and still trying to help, despite the fact that some of us have already got our clients back up and running. |
raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:00:00 -
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Endless Delirium wrote:Jaden Plymoth wrote: Yes its frustrating, but with new things come bugs. And CCP is doing everything they can to fix multiple problems that cropped up. Writing code is far more tedious than many of us come to realize and simple mistakes can be made and not caught until after release. Lay off the devs, they're doing what they can.
Heh... I'm a software developer myself and I know quite well how tedious and difficult is to write code. However, this kind of mistake should never make it pass QA. Stuff like special chars in the path of the installation or 'misplacing' the settings are things that should be checked for each and any release. To be honest, this kind of 'mistake' would get people fired at the company I'm working for. I'm not saying this should happen here, but the fact those problems show up every patch or three is not normal either.
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Jaden Plymoth
Iacio Iaculum
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:04:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:Endless Delirium wrote:Jaden Plymoth wrote: Yes its frustrating, but with new things come bugs. And CCP is doing everything they can to fix multiple problems that cropped up. Writing code is far more tedious than many of us come to realize and simple mistakes can be made and not caught until after release. Lay off the devs, they're doing what they can.
Heh... I'm a software developer myself and I know quite well how tedious and difficult is to write code. However, this kind of mistake should never make it pass QA. Stuff like special chars in the path of the installation or 'misplacing' the settings are things that should be checked for each and any release. To be honest, this kind of 'mistake' would get people fired at the company I'm working for. I'm not saying this should happen here, but the fact those problems show up every patch or three is not normal either.
Did I say anywhere in there that it was not CCPs fault? No? I didn't think so. |
korondipeter
Meus Frater Custodis Preatoriani
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:11:00 -
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[quote=CCP Cascade][quote=korondipeter However launcher still not working for me. Still 16-bit complain [/quote
Can you try downloading this http://cdn1.eveonline.com/350962/EVEOnlineLauncherInstaller.exe and applying that to the client where you have a broken Launcher
Does that enable you to start the Launcher?[/quote
Started today with \bin\ExeFile.exe , it asked about an update. downloaded it Eve online Launcher v1.09 started, after about an hour watching the progress bar of 1/3: Creating EVE_Online_350962-351477.patch going from 0% to 25% then back to 0%, i have given up
Also tried this one http://cdn1.eveonline.com/350962/EVEOnlineLauncherInstaller.exe, seams the same v1.09 launcher that is looping at 25%
Now is really unplayable, even \bin\ExeFile.exe is nocure since it asks about the update, ending up in the loop. Will try a reboot and run again
PS Just an observation.. I do not know what you have done to the launcher files, i have checked today the launcher.exe and launcher_console.exe. The header in hexa now is 4D5A which is usually a classical exe. Back when the launcher was not working i am sure that it was something else in the header because i have checked it.
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raven666wings
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:16:00 -
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Ok so far i have this list of users that are also unhappy and want the game time they lost back to their accounts. Lemme know if you wanna sign my post too
raven666wings Ferdi Fauri Anita1 Endless Delirium Alunis Nicky Ormand Elsmere Tier'Fold Ulf Raben Zehel Frauz Callidus Dux RsA Larza Crosi Wesdo PryMary |
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