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Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:08:00 -
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Well this seems slightly short sighted. It would have been interesting to see if titans are truly imbalanced or if people were just unwilling to commit fleets to counter them (dreads and supers). I guess we'll never really know though as this nerf seems like it could be a huge game changer, especially for an alliance like Raiden dot. |
Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:39:00 -
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Fa lC0n wrote:They should have kept the old DD 1. tech nerf = even value of all R64 moon materials, so small alliance can fight each other over Goo aswell 2. blob nerf = make small gangs more attractive, make huge blobbin less attractive (like server perf atm) 3. bot nerf = realy, when r u guys gonna fix this Top 3 on my list, i dont care about the titans. If u adress these 3 first, in time, titans will die anyways.
1. They tried this with sanctums. It turned out people weren't interested in fighting for space/assets when they had no incentive to do so. All that came out of this was a stagnant map. 2. They've tried this too with no discernible success. Only place this has worked is WH's and even so it's only been a limited success. 3. They have been killing bots. They're just undermanned, and quite frankly having bots in the drf, or as miners isn't such a bad thing. (Cheaper minerals > cheaper pvp > less risk aversive pvp) They need a different approach to killing bots, because as strange as it might seem, the only bots that really have a negative impact on the game are bots farming bounties. |
Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:46:00 -
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Mhyn Teregone wrote:Lelob wrote:Well this seems slightly short sighted. It would have been interesting to see if titans are truly imbalanced or if people were just unwilling to commit fleets to counter them (dreads and supers). I guess we'll never really know though as this nerf seems like it could be a huge game changer, especially for an alliance like Raiden dot. Lets see if it works as intended. I tentatively support these changes, and although would have preferred something with actual coding effort, can understand why a simple static data hack is all they have been prepared to invest in. And yes, I'm a titan pilot too. Now to tackle the next legacy game design embarrassment - technetium.
In truth I'm not really sure what CCP is trying to accomplish here.
Titans being purely anti-cap weapons seems somewhat useless outside of ganks, given the incredible rarity of capital fights in EVE right now. Especially when the side fielding caps and titans has traditionally been facing a blob of subcaps and not caps. At its core it not only shows CCP's ignorance of the metagame right now, but also of the fact that no serious attempts have been made to actively kill titans outside of ganks. Saying titans are imbalanced and need a nerf simply does not make sense, given the context in which the argument is being made. |
Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:10:00 -
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CynoNet Two wrote:Lelob wrote: Titans being purely anti-cap weapons seems somewhat useless outside of ganks, given the incredible rarity of capital fights in EVE right now. Especially when the side fielding caps and titans has traditionally been facing a blob of subcaps and not caps. At its core it not only shows CCP's ignorance of the metagame right now, but also of the fact that no serious attempts have been made to actively kill titans outside of ganks. Saying titans are imbalanced and need a nerf simply does not make sense, given the context in which the argument is being made.
Attempts to kill titans are made everyday. They usually conclude in a fashion similar to this, or this. I find it astonishing that you none of you realise that behaviour like this is what got your toys nerfed.
Throwing a bunch of subcaps at titans and expecting to win is not even close to being a serious attempt. Fielding a fleet of 200 dreads with carrier and super support would be a serious attempt, and is well within the capabilities of the CFC. I understand well enough why CCP thinks titans must be nerfed, but it is not because of any game-breaking aspects of the titan itself, but of the unwillingness of both actors to engage in a potentially costly capital fight when the results remain uncertain. As I said before, nobody will really know for certain if titans truly are imbalanced until a serious, concerted effort has been made to kill them. |
Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:14:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:lelob which eo guy are you i can't remember
Posting with my main~ |
Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:37:00 -
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Sentinel Eeex wrote: So, what you are saying is that one side has to throw 200 years of skill training onto 50 years of skill training in order to be competitive?
You also realize that if anyone would organize anything like 200 dreads, other side would never show up?
******** theory crafting.
People also said that nobody is going to deploy all their supers/titans to save a tech tower and yet they did. Betting on cowardice does not really pay dividends unless its a bet on goons or the NC.
edit: cleared up quote pyramid. Also goons were able to form these dread fleets in Cloud Ring iirc and about the only thing that seems to be stopping goons from rolling over Raiden dot is their use of turret titans against goon subcaps. The answer shouldn't be too difficult. |
Lelob
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:31:00 -
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Innominate wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:So again, what beats 1200 dudes A better question is, why should 100 dudes be able to beat those 1200 dudes without any serious risk to themselves?
Why can't out of 1200 dudes, 200 can't get into dreads and pwn 100 dudes?
c wut i did thar |
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