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SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:36:00 -
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Titans reduced to 3 maximum locked targets, and base scan resolution reduced to 5
it takes a ship with 11.1 scan res 54 seconds to lock a dread. yep that makes sense! |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 12:44:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:
The scan res number is balanced around multiple Cormack's sensor boosters
if we are going to balance ships that way now can we do it with all ships because as long as there are people with tons of isk ships will get fit crazy. THIS IS THE MOST HALF ASSED THING CCP HAS EVER CAME UP WITH. I'm saying this know full well that it will give test and goons the upper hand over all entity's smaller than us. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:43:00 -
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when balancing a ship you don't base it on the extremes of whats possible you base it on whats realistic with that said go through all the titan lose mails in eves history and tell me what percentage of them are nothing but meta 14. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:18:00 -
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Shadoo wrote:I don't think anyone who has flown a titan in combat can argue that the ship is not currently overpowered in combat when used in great numbers, just like no one could seriously argue about AOD DDs when they started to be used in 3+3 scale every 10 minutes
Of course, same goes for every ship in eve -- when used in great numbers, but Supercapitals certainly show this curve more often on the field
So I'm extremely happy that you state that the ship needs a role change - last time we were campaigning for AOD DD change -- this was exactly what a lot of us were asking for
But that was 3 years ago
I am therefore rather dissapointed that what we, the community at large, have been asking for a very long time is rather haphazardly brushed off as something that "will be looked at long term" with a surgical change that SCREAMS of a kneejerk reaction without really providing us with much to go on here to see your vision or have comfort you are going to do something in the long term for the "end game" ship in EVE
And forgive me for saying this -- but you have not always had a great track record of revisiting changes you've made in the past as surgical adjustments. Thus I feel like pressing a bit harder on the high level thoughts that have lead you to make this current fix
What is your intended role for Titan with this change on TQ today?
How will you evaluate if your changes implemented will match up with that role on the TQ combat field in this release? For example -- as far as I can see -- a large group of titans will still obliterate a large group of battleships/drakes -- all you've delayed is the first hit and require more micromanagement in making sure the lock queue is evenly spaced out
Given how large fights today unfold on TQ -- how do you see this ship fulfilling your intended role on heavily TiDi systems with the sig change
What is your future vision, even at high level, for the Titan ship class? Will it remain a combat asset or are you looking and overhauling it for something else (personally btw I've argued for the last 4 years that titans should NOT be a combat ship at all, but rather a massive alliance level asset for logistics/cloning/staging/etc)
What assurances can you offer us this change will not remain a permanent fixture for the long term?
With the combat ability of this ship being "surgically adjusted", would you be even willing to look at for example increasing the jump range of the ship to balance the change
And lastly -- are you going to allow those pilots who wish to wait for your stated longer term role adjustments to GM-dock their ship until such a time that this change is no longer a surgical measure in order to still utilize the account/character for combat in EVE?
This is a great point.
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SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:03:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:
So Titans can't hit MWD drakes with the signature of carriers flying in a ball (orbiting an anchor) that is keeping range when their transversal hits zero, because geometry failed me, but your enlightening post has cleared it all up.
Thanks!
If your range from your target is maintained throughout your orbit of the anchor, your trans never hits 0. i don't think you'll be able to get through to this one
you guys are both ******* idiots learn to read if you are anchored on someone other than the guy shooting at you there are 2 points in the orbit where you have 0 trans.
By making this change you are actually hurting the alliances who actually have the balls to field their 100b isk ships. The cfc has at least 2 times the super capital numbers as raiden. The problem is we don't have the balls to lose some killing all of theirs. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:17:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:This should be empty quoted for about 10 pages.
0 Trans = Dead. These changes do nothing to fix peoples stupidity |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:0 Trans = Dead. These changes do nothing to fix peoples stupidity why don't you join PL about it lmao
you're a idiot changing the game to who ever brings more subcaps wins is not any better than who bring more super caps. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:55:00 -
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Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:38:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance. Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE: PL (Nearly 400) NCdot (281 on file) AAA (280 on file) RAIDEN (260 on file) Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file but growing daily) FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team.
so the cfc has 390 before you start bothering with the smaller alliances in the cfc. so if this sleeping ever grew the balls to actually get in a slugfest we would out number raiden and have full control of tidi and our subcap numbers would spike like mad when we broadcasted titan tackled get in fleet. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:13:00 -
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Auto Targeting System II is now a standard titan mod wolololol +3 locked targets
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SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.14 01:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Auto Targeting System II is now a standard titan mod wolololol +3 locked targets
look at the test publord continuing his whining pets gonna pet~~~
actually i'm not whining anymore I have finally got past my rage and figured out how to counter the nerf completely |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:34:00 -
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Andski wrote:Surge Roth wrote:Takashi Kaeda wrote:Surge Roth wrote:
I understand that a bunch of bees want to change the game to their favor in the name of balance when nothing was broken to begin with except for their poor decision making
Even Shadoo has chimed in agreeing that Titans are ******. Still doesn't change the fact that this change is unjustified. yes you are clearly much more knowledgeable about titans than Shadoo, one of the best FCs in the game (if not the best)
Shadoo owns a leviathan. anyone who owns a levi has no creditability when speaking about super caps. Also when he started hanging out on test jabber he chilled with the pony people. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.14 03:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Andski wrote:Surge Roth wrote:Takashi Kaeda wrote:
Even Shadoo has chimed in agreeing that Titans are ******.
Still doesn't change the fact that this change is unjustified. yes you are clearly much more knowledgeable about titans than Shadoo, one of the best FCs in the game (if not the best) Shadoo owns a leviathan he has not creditability when speaking about super caps. Shadoo's leviathan dates back to the days of AoE doomsdays when nobody tanked kinetic damage and they'd get 0wnzoned you got a titan a week ago or whatever and you're whining about spending isk on a hull you knew was going to be nerfed ((
m8 i'm aware that the only reason he still has a levi is because its one of the oldest in the game. |
SuperBeastie
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Posted - 2012.03.14 20:53:00 -
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this is not even a effective nerf stop freaking out guys and throw two auto targeting system II in the high and lock up 9 people and blap away. |
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