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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:08:00 -
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If this keeps up I will have to convert my megathron for underwater use! |
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:38:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Yea, goons never blobbed before we attacked VFK guys, you heard it here first.
You must be new around here.
You talk like blobs have never happened before and are some sort of unstoppable wave of doom. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:38:00 -
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Mioelnir wrote:Kazanir wrote:There is no "counter" to 1200 dudes in a single engagement Bolded the important part. And since Sov warefare revolves ENTIRELY around single engagements against static objectives that scale linearly with the number of attackers, this is the only scenario that matters.
Because blobs of that size has never happened before in the history of EVE and been beaten time after time. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:01:00 -
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Kern Walzky wrote:The problem is the current mechanics of shooting structures. You DONT need capitals or supers..... So now we have a range of capital killing & Structure killing ships that will never be used. If your so into easy changes CCP nerf subcaps to NOT be able to shoot any kind of structures except custom offices. This will force capitals out and the use for the multi nerfed expensive Supers will atleast be there somewhere. Otherwise i just wasted so many many months of training, i used all my isk on an mercedes(titan) and got a Fiat(Space elevator). All this with no refund, no nothing. CCP you really must start making those big changes to game mechanics instead of nerf's all over the place.... last thing.. a question. to the simple pilot. what do you think you want to train to when you reach 100+mill Skillpoints??? i guess supers is not on your plan right...but what then...when you fly everything else....but hey perhaps you can walk in stations? hey or play another game perhaps??? Naaah CCP, all players are going to be so happy with this change in the long run im sure....
So how would you kill a POS in high sec or wormholes? |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:15:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:
We're absolutely listening.
Titans are an anti-cap/supercap ship and we need to limit their ability to kill subcaps. That's a change that's happening and is unlikely to change. The practical details on how that happens we'd love as much feedback on as possible. We've been talking about the lock timers this morning based on feedback from the playerbase, looking at what adjustments we can possibly make. The changes in the OP are still subject to change if we get feedback on how to achieve our goal better.
When can we expect this to hit sisi? |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:16:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:
I am sorry in advance here, but could we get some indication from CCP that we are being heard here. Put a lot of time into this game and really would ratter not be forced to leave because I feel like CCP only listens to Goons. I know they say we are less people then they are, but they don't number 345000 like they would have us believe.
I heard this exact same argument when CCP nerfed AOE titans, nano, ECM, drones ect ect. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:36:00 -
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Dasdraperma wrote:
Its really amazing how you change ships that costs months or even years to train, and billions of isks to buy. And I'm really impressed on your explanations on how "needed" are theese changes.
The only thing bothers me now - what should i do as supercap pilot, if i'm, f...ng tired with f...ng structures, and all your game designers offer to capitals is to "logoff and keep paying for account". Should i sit to drake much as like Goon-style? Or stay logged off at pos, untill one more structure should be taken down?
What should i do, if i'm not interested in subcapitals? Just leave, and make Goons and other blobs happy?
Dont reply for me, just answer yourself.
Its your own fault if you ignore 99% of the ships out there. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:42:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:
Then take your time and develop a decent concept that doesn't hurt only one side and gives every ship an viable role. If you think that supercaps should be only good at killing dreads and carriers, than make dreads and carriers a viable weapon against BS (+50% Tracking bonus to dreads in siege mode would help). Right now they are only used for ratting and structure shooting. Thus, there is simply no need for a anti-capital pownage machine. --> Supercaps become useless!!! (ok you can still bridge stuff with titans)
Honestly, it would be fairer to simply remove all supercaps and to reimburse the players than this one-sided nerf into oblivion. Right now titans are the only weapon against huge blobs only one alliance is able to field. You basically force us now to do the same. Not sure if having only two huge powerblocks is good for eve.
Oh, and maybe you should take a closer look at the alpha damage of artillery. (High-Sec people would love you for that and they comprise the majority of players.)
P.S: Please start to play your own game. The reason why titans are so good at killing subcaps atm is not because titans have such great tracking but rather because a MWD Drake and a Maelstorm have a signature of a carrier.
There are 3 blocks that can field the same number and carriers are still good for large fights as are the dreads. Also, if the blob is unbeatable why did the NC, BoB, Goons, DRF, Red Alliance, Tri, ASCN ect ect never manage to take over all of 0.0 in the past? |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:11:00 -
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Smoking Blunts wrote:
they were beaten by a bigger blob after making dumb choices.
The only flaw in that statement is that they all had the largest blob at the time. Many of the fights back then were decided by the blob bringing down the node. This no longer happens so the blobs main weapon is gone which means skill > numbers will win most fights now that CCP is removing the I-win buttanz. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 11:19:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:
Sort your stuff out guys, you are about to have an issue with subscribers. 1 titan pilot = running at least 3 accounts.
Im willing to lose 300 titan pilots to make tens of thousands happy. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:13:00 -
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Slapnuts McGee wrote:
Then you must agree that these changes will still leave us with a broken ship, I don't see the point in making changes until CCP defines the role they want this ship to fill.
I'll take a bandaid over what we have now. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:15:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Ok lets talk fair, why should a sub cap even be able to damage a Titan... if you NEEDED to field capitals to hurt titans this might not be so bad. But you want to be able to kill them and hold them down. Without ever risking anything yourself, like your own cap fleet....
The irony of this is that titans risk nothing while subcaps get torn apart. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:22:00 -
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Slapnuts McGee wrote:baltec1 wrote:Slapnuts McGee wrote:
Then you must agree that these changes will still leave us with a broken ship, I don't see the point in making changes until CCP defines the role they want this ship to fill.
I'll take a bandaid over what we have now. no, because people will still cry when their mwd'ing drake gets blapped by a titan. Bandaid doesn't do any good, I agree there needs to be a complete overhaul of the ship but this isn't the way to go about it putting "duct tape" over the problem and hoping it goes away.
Still better than what we have now, plus CCP are going to keep an eye on it and make adjustments as needed. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:43:00 -
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BioZvin wrote: i have no problem with the way it is or was, or even an change to tracking. I have a problem with my ship being effectively the only ship that can do nothing at all to a ship of another class. A battleship can hit a ceptor, most even have drones to defend it self. And lets be honest here a titan on its own atm can't even defend itself vs one dictor/HIC.
in original post i assumed that titans will be useless against all sub caps, witch I personalty think this nuff will do. But if it doesn't wait a month...
You dont want your ship to be nerfed to be useless without support yet defend the right to invalidate 99% of ships in EVE... |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:46:00 -
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Dasdraperma wrote:Looks like Goons have forum CTA today, defending this nerf? :)
Who needs a CTA. You dont often get a much needed nerf that causes tears of this magnitude. Why I haven't seen bawwing like this since the last time titans got changed. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:52:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:
So wait a ship is invalidated when it cannot do anything against another one ?
Welcome to all subcaps and carriers/dreads lives over the last year. |
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Posted - 2012.03.14 17:42:00 -
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Uzuki Shootmenow wrote:say hello to cheap effective carrier fleets, which CCP will nerf next after goonies cry some more when Drakes keep exploding. Well done CCP grayscale, you a game balancing proGäó
Or we could just bomb them... |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:05:00 -
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asdf ghyj wrote:
If u guys are so PRO why cry to CCP to nerf ships ?? cuz cant kill Raiden & Co What u guys do now i do when i have 4 year and some1 take my toys and i start cry : MOM ( CCP) some one take my toys pls help me GOONS = PENIBLE
We a burning raiden into the ground anyway (again), we make our case on behalf of the tens of thousands who have suffered at the hands of three powerblocks who have abused titans. CCP agree with us and have seen fit to fix titans (again).
The only people shedding tears are the three blocks who abused it and their neural alts. |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:13:00 -
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Headerman wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:Yeah, more opportunities for small fights would be great, especially with mixed fleets! Unfortunately the current Sov system doesn't work that way. Also, a Titan fleet is the exact opposite of a mixed fleet. Where will it stop though? with carriers? If somehow titans were deemed too risky to send in to battle, what ship class will be next in line to send in? Super carriers. What counter is there to a RR super carrier fleet? One whos HP count is higher than a titans? Will we see calls for another HP/ability nerf for SCs before long?
Several, most of them involving subcaps. SC are balanced and beatable. |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:22:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:
So basically all u say is that every fleet doctrine can be countered. So with proper fleet composition u can **** battleships with ahacs. but if battleships will burn in different directions they will murder ahacs. This is exactly what I want to say. no imagine that on a higher tier. imagine you have fleet of dreads with enough DPS to kill and track battleships out of siege mode. u dield supers to take them out. but then dreads can go to siege and start raping supers if they have enough numbers or ask for suppercap support to counter your super fleet. that's exactly what is missing. that is what I'm trying to say.
There should be no uber ship. Titans atm are viewed from solo point of view. ppl are looking at what 1 titan does instead of looking on it from fleet doctrine perspective and counter them same way. 1 dread will never kill a full fleet of battleships but 100 dreads will. 1 battleship will never alpha hac or cruiser but in numbers they will, same goes for for hacs that will **** battleships, dreads that will **** titansand so on.
Once again stop looking at 1 particular ship. Look at all those ships that are before and after it in tier rank.
Battleship killer - that is what missing in this game. ship with enough tank to adsorb a huge damage comming from number of battleships and enough DPS to bring some of them down before he dies. Titans are the ones that fulfill that role, dreads can be significant replacement to them in this case.
The counter to a blob of titans is a bigger blob of titans. Hence the nerf. |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:27:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:
No, counter blob of titan with Sieged dreads (still needs a buff) and support fleet.
Which was tried and failed. This also does not fix the problem in that titans invalidated 99% of ships in EVE and made winning fights impossible for smaller alliances. |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:37:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:Mathicluanna wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:Mathicluanna wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:1 dread will never kill a full fleet of battleships but 100 dreads will. Lets test this. You bring the dreads I'll bring the battleships. Read my post above again! dreads as they are now are a waste of isk and nothing else. Why should 100 dreads kill 256 battleships other than a misguided belief that more skillpoints and isk should equal more power? Dreads are balanced pretty well against battleships (i.e. they die in a fire), you don't see them on the field because supercaps are broken. Why can Assault frigate like Ishkur **** 5 T1 frigates? Why Garmon rapes pretty much everything in his videos while flying ship fitted for over 5 bil and implants for 2bil? What's the point of training and perfecting skills then?
Garmon has skill as a pilot. Put most people in the same ship and they will die in a fire. Pilot skill > Skillpoints/money. |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 11:50:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:looks like you really don't understand my point or u just don't want to understand what I'm talking about. Once again I'm saying that there is a gap that should be filled. removing a role from ship and leaving that role empty is silly.
When that roll results in turning every subcap into something more useless than a meatshield your damn right it should be removed and left empty. |
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:39:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:
You can file it wherever you like mate. Along with your sorry ass propaganda would be a good place. Because accrding to that, your sorry ass should have been kicked out of nullsec last summer.
Goes to show just how little you know doesn't it. |
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:46:00 -
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Mutheer Lelmata'eb wrote:Do we have the ability to make CCP shape the game into whatever we liked? I mean, if that's the case, then can they make me a ship that literally mounts other ships and has its way with them? It would add a whole other level of anger to the game.
CCP fixed blasters and gal hulls as a personal favour to me. |
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Posted - 2012.03.19 09:41:00 -
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Cambarus wrote: I had to do terrible, unspeakable things to certain CCP employees to get those buffs put in.
You didn't fall for Soundwaves trick did you |
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Posted - 2012.03.21 23:33:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Citamarret wrote:goons are really bad at this game and it is a mystery as to how we actually hold sov
oh wait no it isn't everyone else is just terrible
heh,. owned I think you got it right the first sentenceGǪGǪGǪ.after goonies were given 3 regions by PL & NC, you then proceeded to lose all 3 regions faster than any Alliance in EVE history, then TCF handed you their space prior to them disbanding. Now you just collect **** Alliances as cannon fodder to protect and insulate your space while you cry to CCP to nerf anything that might threaten itGǪGǪ. Think that sums it upGǪ.. .
This from a nobody who camps jita station all day with their neutral alts on standby just in case the hauler you're ganking tries to shoot back... |
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Posted - 2012.03.22 00:33:00 -
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Poor little snot's not getting on any mails because he spends all his time providing sebo for the alpha boats. |
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Posted - 2012.03.22 09:06:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:baltec1 wrote:Poor little snot's not getting on any mails because he spends all his time providing sebo for the alpha boats. When a fight starts I usually crank LMFAO "Sexy and I know it" uncloak and let my sebo flag fly baby!!!..... How many albums did you go through while you were shooting those 233 POS mods this month..... .
I had cant stop this on a loop while I burned down towers in my little throax |
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Posted - 2012.03.23 10:15:00 -
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Calipso Star wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Just to reiterate what we learned at fanfest.
The Mittani is a Wizard and Shoots Lightning Bolts out his Fingers! What you learned at fanfest ? Can i tell you what we learned from the live stream ? Ok , let me sum it up. mittani is the biggest ******* and king of faggots from all eve aka goons. He eats **** all day long ofc he has a ego problem he thinks he is "the ****" and you are all a bunch of retards because you support him but thats what headless chickens do because is to hard to think for themselfs is easier to borrow the thinking from a "special olympics champion".
Hey guys look at this bitterpost. |
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