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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2639
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:51:00 -
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hoggar wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Anela Cistine wrote: There is nothing stopping alliances like PL and Raiden. from simply recruiting the low-skill backbone of a subcap fleet tomorrow. EXACTLY, thank you, numbers are all that matter now. Numbers Online, the internet spaceship game. And how many people are in PL's blue list atm? Less your alliance size
shut up npc alt "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
hoggar
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:53:00 -
[812] - Quote
Supercap online
BLOB OR DIE ONLINE |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:54:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote: dreads hardly made a difference there
Yea except for the part where all your FCs admitted that if it weren't for the bad bounce you'd have killed way more since the first titan was dead before the first DD hit the dreads.
what would have dreads added that a long legged, pissed off welp fleet would not have
it's not like you guys use support fleets |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2621
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:54:00 -
[814] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote: more than the CFC that's for damn sure
I'd take that dong grath still gaypostin it up |
Kitfox Mikakka
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:54:00 -
[815] - Quote
This thread's pretty cool, can't wait for April thanks CCP. |
Swearte Widfarend
Mortis Noir. Ineluctable.
50
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:54:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:Charles Case wrote:TELL ME HOW YOU CAN BEAT A 2000 BLOB END OF DISCUSSION Turn off the servers and go home. If you would stop and think (I know, sometimes it's hard when you are in madposting mode), you would realize that half of this Titan nerf is beyond stupid. If Titans are supposed to shoot capitals, great. But after the update with the scan resolution change, Titans won't even be able to do that unless you spend an additional 30-40 BILLION ISK to fit stupid Officer Sensor Boosters. And in doing so, it won't change their ability to shoot MWD Drakes or MWD Maelstroms. So what does this achieve, other than having the Titan pilots not log in at all? Because I didn't think CCPs goals was fewer folks on the cluster. That's some pretty dumb reasoning there ok
Math is hard.
An MWD Drake (or MWD Maelstrom) has the signature of a Carrier. Ergo, the MWD Maelstrom or MWD Drake can be hit by a turret Titan. The proposed Titan changes don't change that fact. CCP is changing ship skill trees. How ship skills should be |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2639
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:55:00 -
[817] - Quote
hoggar wrote:Supercap online
BLOB OR DIE ONLINE
i think the latter is a lot better "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
51
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:55:00 -
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I don't think anyone who has flown a titan in combat can argue that the ship is not currently overpowered in combat when used in great numbers, just like no one could seriously argue about AOD DDs when they started to be used in 3+3 scale every 10 minutes
Of course, same goes for every ship in eve -- when used in great numbers, but Supercapitals certainly show this curve more often on the field
So I'm extremely happy that you state that the ship needs a role change - last time we were campaigning for AOD DD change -- this was exactly what a lot of us were asking for
But that was 3 years ago
I am therefore rather dissapointed that what we, the community at large, have been asking for a very long time is rather haphazardly brushed off as something that "will be looked at long term" with a surgical change that SCREAMS of a kneejerk reaction without really providing us with much to go on here to see your vision or have comfort you are going to do something in the long term for the "end game" ship in EVE
And forgive me for saying this -- but you have not always had a great track record of revisiting changes you've made in the past as surgical adjustments. Thus I feel like pressing a bit harder on the high level thoughts that have lead you to make this current fix
What is your intended role for Titan with this change on TQ today?
How will you evaluate if your changes implemented will match up with that role on the TQ combat field in this release? For example -- as far as I can see -- a large group of titans will still obliterate a large group of battleships/drakes -- all you've delayed is the first hit and require more micromanagement in making sure the lock queue is evenly spaced out
Given how large fights today unfold on TQ -- how do you see this ship fulfilling your intended role on heavily TiDi systems with the sig change
What is your future vision, even at high level, for the Titan ship class? Will it remain a combat asset or are you looking and overhauling it for something else (personally btw I've argued for the last 4 years that titans should NOT be a combat ship at all, but rather a massive alliance level asset for logistics/cloning/staging/etc)
What assurances can you offer us this change will not remain a permanent fixture for the long term?
With the combat ability of this ship being "surgically adjusted", would you be even willing to look at for example increasing the jump range of the ship to balance the change
And lastly -- are you going to allow those pilots who wish to wait for your stated longer term role adjustments to GM-dock their ship until such a time that this change is no longer a surgical measure in order to still utilize the account/character for combat in EVE? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2641
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:56:00 -
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Swearte Widfarend wrote:Charles Case wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:Charles Case wrote:TELL ME HOW YOU CAN BEAT A 2000 BLOB END OF DISCUSSION Turn off the servers and go home. If you would stop and think (I know, sometimes it's hard when you are in madposting mode), you would realize that half of this Titan nerf is beyond stupid. If Titans are supposed to shoot capitals, great. But after the update with the scan resolution change, Titans won't even be able to do that unless you spend an additional 30-40 BILLION ISK to fit stupid Officer Sensor Boosters. And in doing so, it won't change their ability to shoot MWD Drakes or MWD Maelstroms. So what does this achieve, other than having the Titan pilots not log in at all? Because I didn't think CCPs goals was fewer folks on the cluster. That's some pretty dumb reasoning there ok Math is hard. An MWD Drake (or MWD Maelstrom) has the signature of a Carrier. Ergo, the MWD Maelstrom or MWD Drake can be hit by a turret Titan. The proposed Titan changes don't change that fact.
yeah we tend to run our MWDs for fun and just sit still "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Variable1
FinFleet Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:57:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: The scan res number is balanced around multiple Cormack's sensor boosters, on the assumption that money is not a limiting factor for titan pilots, and therefore that people will shell out for officer SBs if that lets them continue do this kind of thing. All things aside, this is a pretty hilarious assumption that doesn't make sense in context. With a base sensor strength of 5, you are talking about a few seconds difference between t2 and cormack out of a probable minute+ lock time. Well worth the 4b+ sensor booster imo Gains you 25s against frigates (105 to 79, assuming 3 are fitted), 15s against cruisers (64 to 49) and 10s against battleships (44 to 33). If you see this as a big difference, then it's worth balancing around the officer fit given that dropping 12bn on SBs is not a huge fraction of the outlay for a properly-fit titan. If you don't see this as a big difference, then balancing around the officer fit isn't a big deal because it's not having a major impact. Either way, it's a functional assumption
1. lol'ing at 'assumptions' instead of actual in game data being used to make HUGE changes in game.
2. lol'ing at all Titan pilots being 'rich'. Titan pilots are probably botters. Titan pilots are RMT'ers. Titan pilots all fit Officer everything. Titan pilots standard fit can pop bs/cruisers/frigs. Do you even have the slightest clue?
3. lol'ing at the 2 types of people in this thread agreeing - goons and friends of goons (ie no clue)
4. lol'ing at the lack of work done on countering 700+ maels...
5. lol'ing at the welcome to BLOB land.
6. lol'ing that my tears are not as much for the nerf, but for the shear stupidity of the arguments used to create this nerf and the disbelief that CCP cannot see you for what you have become.
Sad days ahead perhaps, but most will try to keep up the honest fight against goonswarmonline, and continue to have their counters nerfed until quitting time. I will donate my stuff to anyone who can change the goon ethos of 'destroy eve whatever the cost'.
Onwards on upwards. :-) Tinfoil off. |
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Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
46
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:57:00 -
[821] - Quote
As usual Shadoo comes by and makes sense for everyone.
Can lock thread now.
Should have posted 45 pages ago.
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Styrling
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:57:00 -
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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXYGÇÖS MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I POST ABOUT TITANS ON FORUMS.EVEONLINE.COM |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2641
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:58:00 -
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Variable1 wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: The scan res number is balanced around multiple Cormack's sensor boosters, on the assumption that money is not a limiting factor for titan pilots, and therefore that people will shell out for officer SBs if that lets them continue do this kind of thing. All things aside, this is a pretty hilarious assumption that doesn't make sense in context. With a base sensor strength of 5, you are talking about a few seconds difference between t2 and cormack out of a probable minute+ lock time. Well worth the 4b+ sensor booster imo Gains you 25s against frigates (105 to 79, assuming 3 are fitted), 15s against cruisers (64 to 49) and 10s against battleships (44 to 33). If you see this as a big difference, then it's worth balancing around the officer fit given that dropping 12bn on SBs is not a huge fraction of the outlay for a properly-fit titan. If you don't see this as a big difference, then balancing around the officer fit isn't a big deal because it's not having a major impact. Either way, it's a functional assumption 1. lol'ing at 'assumptions' instead of actual in game data being used to make HUGE changes in game. 2. lol'ing at all Titan pilots being 'rich'. Titan pilots are probably botters. Titan pilots are RMT'ers. Titan pilots all fit Officer everything. Titan pilots standard fit can pop bs/cruisers/frigs. Do you even have the slightest clue? 3. lol'ing at the 2 types of people in this thread agreeing - goons and friends of goons (ie no clue) 4. lol'ing at the lack of work done on countering 700+ maels... 5. lol'ing at the welcome to BLOB land. 6. lol'ing that my tears are not as much for the nerf, but for the shear stupidity of the arguments used to create this nerf and the disbelief that CCP cannot see you for what you have become. Sad days ahead perhaps, but most will try to keep up the honest fight against goonswarmonline, and continue to have their counters nerfed until quitting time. I will donate my stuff to anyone who can change the goon ethos of 'destroy eve whatever the cost'. Onwards on upwards. :-) Tinfoil off.
it's well-known that -A- and Goonswarm are long-time friends "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
491
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:58:00 -
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Not going to bother reading nearly 40 pages of Goons giving knob gratification to get their way (obviously how they wanted it to turn out ), but can I ask this
Can we please get a PVP flag?
Solves the whole issue of losers (like the guys getting stomped by titans cause they obviously failed to bring them to counter thin tank glass cannon Titans) no longer feeling like losers. Wander into a gate camp, its ok. AFK to jita in a Kestrel full of PLEX, its ok. AFK in a Hulk fit for cargo letting a damn destroyer take it out, its ok. No fear of getting your Officer fit CNR ganked cause its worth 5 billion in a 1/5 the cost hull, its ok. Cause you can no longer lose it, by completely avoiding the actions you used to take that made you a loser and a ******* idiot in the first place that you deserve to lose it.
/sarcasmn off
Can't dumb down the game anymore (Oh wait, we can. Lets request that PVP flag everyone!), just have to scream and whine loud enough to get your way. No one can find an obvious solution (like bringing their own massive Titan fleets instead of battleships and T3 cruisers) to meta game better then the guys who found a way to meta game better then the whiners; Titan pilots continued to use a Titan after it lost AoE doomsday, after it lost the ability to hit sub cap ships with DD, after it lost its drones, after it lost 20% of its hitpoints, they still found a way....but you couldn't find a solution but to whine because you were unwilling, unable, or refused to fly / bring a cap ship of your own. Yes, now the Titan pilots are the losers because you couldn't nut the **** up and put out (you could only take it like an internet **** queen and moaned loud enough, CCP had to metaphorically install sound proofing so they don't have to hear your loud screams )
To the CCP staff, really think how you are dumbing down the game because a portion of your player base can't handle getting their ass handed to them. Then think of the other portion and would you really make such a change, that it offends the other portion (like making Highsec and Carebears totally safe because one side wanted it, but the other doesn't and it totally offends them but you go ahead with it anyway because they scream about it) |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
437
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:58:00 -
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Machine Delta wrote:
Hey, we said bombers. Keep moving the goalposts bro.
Right, so say the average alliance can field 200 guys, how are those 200 guys supposed to keep the 1200 man fleet on the field long enough to let the bombers make a single run, and how much is left of that 200 man alliance after they engage the 1200 man fleet.
Scale that if you want to 400, or even 600 guys.
The counter only works if you can get them to stay in one place long enough for each bombing run, and if you were to say, whittle numbers while they formed, well, if you kill enough to matter, the 1200 man fleet won't see the field (thats morale winning, not a fleet comp beating 1200 guys) and if you don't then you're stuck in the same situation.
So tell me again how an average alliance that could normally field a 200 man fleet is to counter 1200 dudes with bombers.
Tell me how a small coalition that could scrape up 600 dudes is going to compete with 1200 guys.
The scaling mechanic is so out of whack that its simply not possible. Over 150 maels and carriers start getting vollied, once you reach the full alpha fleet, backed by 400 drakes, 100 collected scimmies, a small bomber group, and however many rifters you are left with a thing that is literally only currently countered by one thing in game: Titans.
The answer to what beats 1200 dudes is your own 1200 dudes, as there isn't much else thats going to matter.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2641
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:59:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Not going to bother reading nearly 40 pages of Goons giving knob gratification to get their way (obviously how they wanted it to turn out ), but can I ask this Can we please get a PVP flag? Solves the whole issue of losers (like the guys getting stomped by titans cause they obviously failed to bring them to counter thin tank glass cannon Titans) no longer feeling like losers. Wander into a gate camp, its ok. AFK to jita in a Kestrel full of PLEX, its ok. AFK in a Hulk fit for cargo letting a damn destroyer take it out, its ok. No fear of getting your Officer fit CNR ganked cause its worth 5 billion in a 1/5 the cost hull, its ok. Cause you can no longer lose it, by completely avoiding the actions you used to take that made you a loser and a ******* idiot in the first place that you deserve to lose it. /sarcasmn off Can't dumb down the game anymore (Oh wait, we can. Lets request that PVP flag everyone!), just have to scream and whine loud enough to get your way. No one can find an obvious solution (like bringing their own massive Titan fleets instead of battleships and T3 cruisers) to meta game better then the guys who found a way to meta game better then the whiners; Titan pilots continued to use a Titan after it lost AoE doomsday, after it lost the ability to hit sub cap ships with DD, after it lost its drones, after it lost 20% of its hitpoints, they still found a way.... but you couldn't find a solution but to whine because you were unwilling, unable, or refused to fly / bring a cap ship of your own. Yes, now the Titan pilots are the losers because you couldn't nut the **** up and put out (you could only take it like an internet **** queen and moaned loud enough, CCP had to metaphorically install sound proofing so they don't have to hear your loud screams ) To the CCP staff, really think how you are dumbing down the game because a portion of your player base can't handle getting their ass handed to them. Then think of the other portion and would you really make such a change, that it offends the other portion (like making Highsec and Carebears totally safe because one side wanted it, but the other doesn't and it totally offends them but you go ahead with it anyway because they scream about it)
you are stupid "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2641
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:01:00 -
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titans should be exempt from any changes and balancing because they are expensive ~end-game ships~ "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Le Cardinal
Spricer Raiden.
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:01:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
Goons are not happy with the effectiveness of large groups of titans against subcapital ships, so we have to make some adjustments.
Nice to see those ccp connections are working out for you. Well played goons. Putting Soundwave in charge of this is pretty hilarious considering his past history. |
Tithi
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:01:00 -
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Andski wrote:Tithi wrote:Well now you've just traded "who has the most X" for "who has the most Y".
You saying "Well they should bring a matching subcap fleet" is no different from them saying "Well they should bring a matching supercap fleet."
I agree with this nerf, but I think some tweaking to carriers and dreads might be necessary to make them more useful against subcaps in fleet battles. Just a thought. perhaps you should try PvP other than nopod matches in hisec before you comment in discussions about 0.0 warfare between alliances that matter
Perhaps you should not act like a douche for no reason. I agree with everything else you've said in this thread, tho. |
Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers Ignore This.
18
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:01:00 -
[830] - Quote
+1
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:01:00 -
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Swearte Widfarend wrote:
Math is hard.
An MWD Drake (or MWD Maelstrom) has the signature of a Carrier. Ergo, the MWD Maelstrom or MWD Drake can be hit by a turret Titan. The proposed Titan changes don't change that fact.
I meant the idiotic conclusion of your post: "Because I didn't think CCPs goals was fewer folks on the cluster."
What do you think affects the number of folks on the cluster more having titans nerfed or not?
I'm sure the number of people connected will just plummet from now until April! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2641
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:02:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
Goons are not happy with the effectiveness of large groups of titans against subcapital ships, so we have to make some adjustments.
Nice to see those ccp connections are working out for you. Well played goons. Putting Soundwave in charge of this is pretty hilarious considering his past history.
ahahaha CCP connections get real "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Koby Botick
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:02:00 -
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Shadoo wrote: (wrote a lot of words)
And there should nobody be able to say, that a goon cannot appreciate a very well written post of an "enemy", at least in the context of the epic Grath whine and opposition in here. Well said. +1. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2624
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:02:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Machine Delta wrote:
Hey, we said bombers. Keep moving the goalposts bro.
R...a...m..a...d...i...c...k...i...n...m...y...a...s...s...m...m..m
again, all i can see, can't respond to anything i don't see |
BlueMajere
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:05:00 -
[835] - Quote
In true middle school style
I DARE CCP to respond to Shadoo's post.
I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU (you can't back down from that)
Yeah. Good luck getting away with not answering after this callout. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
437
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:05:00 -
[836] - Quote
Weaselior, demonstrating his latent homosexual tendencies for the world to see. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
162
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:05:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Machine Delta wrote:
Hey, we said bombers. Keep moving the goalposts bro.
Right, so say the average alliance can field 200 guys, how are those 200 guys supposed to keep the 1200 man fleet on the field long enough to let the bombers make a single run, and how much is left of that 200 man alliance after they engage the 1200 man fleet. Scale that if you want to 400, or even 600 guys. The counter only works if you can get them to stay in one place long enough for each bombing run, and if you were to say, whittle numbers while they formed, well, if you kill enough to matter, the 1200 man fleet won't see the field (thats morale winning, not a fleet comp beating 1200 guys) and if you don't then you're stuck in the same situation. So tell me again how an average alliance that could normally field a 200 man fleet is to counter 1200 dudes with bombers. Tell me how a small coalition that could scrape up 600 dudes is going to compete with 1200 guys. The scaling mechanic is so out of whack that its simply not possible. Over 150 maels and carriers start getting vollied, once you reach the full alpha fleet, backed by 400 drakes, 100 collected scimmies, a small bomber group, and however many rifters you are left with a thing that is literally only currently countered by one thing in game: Titans. The answer to what beats 1200 dudes is your own 1200 dudes, as there isn't much else thats going to matter. armor hacs Armor Hacs ARMOR HACS |
Mirmedon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:05:00 -
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Variable1 wrote:[quote=CCP Greyscale][quote=Ikoma Sunblazer][quote=CCP Greyscale] I will donate my stuff to anyone who can change the goon ethos of 'destroy eve whatever the cost'.
Onwards on upwards. :-) Tinfoil off.
I will do this thing, donate your stuff to me tia.
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Win Sui
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:06:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Sirhan Blixt wrote:
Also, did it occur to any of you soon-to-be-ex titan blobbers that maybe the reason you've been seeing these large subcap fleets is because titans are hilariously broken? No. It doesn't. .
Mabye because I've been watching Goons use the "More must be better" approach for 5 years now. If you removed all supercaps from the game would the CFC suddenly dissipate into the ether? No, no it wouldn't, you've banded together because you lack the means to stand alone, and that horde mentality was threatened by something, so you've reacted to it by crying until that stop was removed from the game. Now you're free in April to rule the universe (unless our Smear Soundwave campaign works).
Maybe switch to a game where your elite skills are rewarded? I bet you could run a mean WoW raiding guild. Or SWTOR?
Dunno. Or make some friends and stop being such an elitist prick. That might work too. |
Le Cardinal
Spricer Raiden.
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:07:00 -
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Andski wrote:Le Cardinal wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
Goons are not happy with the effectiveness of large groups of titans against subcapital ships, so we have to make some adjustments.
Nice to see those ccp connections are working out for you. Well played goons. Putting Soundwave in charge of this is pretty hilarious considering his past history. ahahaha CCP connections get real
Now that was a fast reply. Sadly, with this heavy handed nerf, things are quite real.
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