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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5469
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:00:00 -
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Pallidum Treponema wrote:Additionally, most titan kills of subcaps occur once said titans are configured for max tracking. Without tracking mods, IE fully configured for tank, titans have trouble tracking even battleships that perform properly. GǪand now it will have trouble tracking battleships when configured for max tracking, which is pretty much how it should be.
Quote:The solution is rather a COUNTER to supercapitals. An affordable counter, which puts a lot of risk to deploying supercapitals without a proper support fleet, and is very cost effective should said supercapital fleet be without support, or even insufficient support There are counters. The problem is that the titans have a rather easy time of killing them. This kind of change makes those counters more viable. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Iniquita
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:00:00 -
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My complaint is this: Dont do half assed changes. Devote the resources to properly rebalance titans in one go. You've already done enough to nerf them repeatedly without any positive changes. |
Kardek Stormlord
The Fallen Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:01:00 -
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Wow I thought the guys who decided all the station walking crap were fired but it seems they made it onto this balance team!
Guess CCP wants it to be just all about the blob.
Drake #682 in Fleet 3 ready! Zzzz |
Neo Agricola
BLACK-MARK
203
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:01:00 -
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First Thought: Nice Changes!!!
Second thought:
Can please anyone check if, with those new changes, Titans and Supers can still speedtank Dreads in Siege? Because I still think that is a big LOL if you cant hit something perfectly what is 18 km big and moving with 100m/s because you are in siege. Wasn't siege plant as a anti cap / anti supercap weapon or is that thing only a anti-POS / anti Station Weapon?
Thx.
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Chad VanGaalen
Knights Of Divinity Vera Cruz Alliance
8
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:02:00 -
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CCP doesn't seem to be capable of learning from the fact that hastily-made changes to not a balanced game make.
1) Stop ******* around with noobships and other ridiculous changes. 2) Instead of constantly repeating that supers and titans need to be re-tooled, get off your asses and do something about it. 3) Keep catering to the tears of Goons. You're great at it.
Seriously, your entire post of discarded changes reeks of laziness.
Drake, MWD fit with T2 Heavies and 2x LSE: 3.16k signature Archon: 2.92k signature
This game is going to hell. Damage Control Podcast www.realmenhulltank.com |
Emily Heapy
Sinclair Corporation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:02:00 -
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Dank Man wrote:Wow, ccp you must love goons and blobs. because this nerf make the bigger subcap blob win all fights, congrats mittens and goons, you cried enough on the forums and welped enough fleets into capital weapons that you got what you wanted, a capital weapon shield! gg.
Now wipe those tears Mister. Every cloud and all that, at least now you will learn that PvP is more than just Log on titan > Slam head against keyboard and pwn everything. You may even learn some kills now!!!!
Regards
Emily
p.s. I will buy your titan, 30b isk ready |
Mr Rive
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
28
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:04:00 -
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A bad tool blames his workers |
Mintrolio
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
415
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:04:00 -
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CONFRIMIGN GOOSEWAMP MITANI WIL TAKIGN CREDIT OF CORSE.
ALSO REMEMBRE THESE WAS FIRST MIEN IDEA FROM BEFORE I LOSIGN MINE TITANS.
ALSO I NOT FEEL BAD THET IDEA TAKENS BY PEEPOL ABLE TO USIGN IDEA.
ALSO I AM HAPY TO SEEIGN MINE CHANGE RECONMENDS TO BE IMPLEMETT IN GAME.
KEEP UP GOOD POASTIGN! MINTROLIO FUR CSM7 |
Dead All Capitals
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:04:00 -
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SuperBeastie wrote:Titans reduced to 3 maximum locked targets, and base scan resolution reduced to 5
it takes a ship with 11.1 scan res 54 seconds to lock a dread. yep that makes sense!
Never not using Sensor Booster on Titans! |
Euphorion
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:04:00 -
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Joran Jackson wrote:Euphorion wrote:Shield titans should have more sig res than armor tanking titans, due to their incredible difficulty of fitting sebos, and sigamps being terrible. You shield tank your titan?
Leviathans and Ragnaroks kind of could use some shield tanking. Putting a sensor booster on those hurts more than armor tanking titans. |
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Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
266
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:05:00 -
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Mike712 wrote:Courthouse wrote:Mike712 wrote:Courthouse wrote:Mike712 wrote:So goons fly blobs of 2 LSE perma MWDing drakes(read massive sig, in fact as big as a carrier) against titans for 2 months to make them look OP, then titans get nerfed.
Good job goons/mittens now you should have the upper hand against a foe who you greatly outnumber.... Counterpoint: You're from battleclinic and thus have zero idea what you're talking about when it comes to PVP in EVE Online. lol, you couldn't be more wrong, all of the battleclinic mods are PvPers. I've seen your website. I'm certain that I'm not. BattleClinic's main aim is to help rookie pilots, just because I devote a large part of my spare time to helping people with their mission fits dose not infer that I know nothing about PvP, it's simply that I enjoy educating people on basic ship fitting and that's where a part of my enjoyment of eve comes from.
I only use your site to find botting fits. Whoops |
Shade Millith
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:05:00 -
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[quote]The scan res number is balanced around multiple Cormack's sensor boosters, on the assumption that money is not a limiting factor for titan pilots, and therefore that people will shell out for officer SBs if that lets them continue do this kind of thing. Our understanding is that this isn't standard practice right now, but we have to balance for expected behavior after the change, and for worst-case scenarios.[/quote
And what about the two shield titans? The two armor titans don't have to lower their tank, but the shield tankers do? |
Magnifikus Erzverwirrer
Endstati0n Raiden.
6
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:06:00 -
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CAN YOU PLEASE ATLEAST FIX BRIDGE BUG FOR GOONSWARMONLINE2012? or are all your fuck1ing ressources are bound on painting hello kitty pictures on ibis and reaper? |
Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:07:00 -
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It's a great patch, because Titans became a role to destroy capitals not subcaps. A Titan pilot now needs a better support fleet. |
Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
48
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:07:00 -
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Andski wrote:So which one of those is the titan? Oh yeah, the one that kills rock, paper and scissors
This is why a supercap balancing needs to involve a proper counter. Currently, there IS no cost-effective proper counter, which is why supercaps are imbalanced. Instead of nerfing supercaps to oblivion, CCP needs to create a cost-effective, low-sp friendly counter to supercaps. I refer to my previous post about torpedoboats for such a counter. |
Anuqet
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:07:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: The scan res number is balanced around multiple Cormack's sensor boosters, on the assumption that money is not a limiting factor for titan pilots, and therefore that people will shell out for officer SBs if that lets them continue do this kind of thing. All things aside, this is a pretty hilarious assumption that doesn't make sense in context. With a base sensor strength of 5, you are talking about a few seconds difference between t2 and cormack out of a probable minute+ lock time. Well worth the 4b+ sensor booster imo Gains you 25s against frigates (105 to 79, assuming 3 are fitted), 15s against cruisers (64 to 49) and 10s against battleships (44 to 33). If you see this as a big difference, then it's worth balancing around the officer fit given that dropping 12bn on SBs is not a huge fraction of the outlay for a properly-fit titan. If you don't see this as a big difference, then balancing around the officer fit isn't a big deal because it's not having a major impact. Either way, it's a functional assumption
Just swining by to point out that cormacs are 10b each atm. Pretty sure that will double tonight. So putting 30b (now) or 60b (in 12h) on a fit for a ship costing 63b to build is kinda funny. ))) |
Vissor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:08:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Ikoma Sunblazer wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: The scan res number is balanced around multiple Cormack's sensor boosters, on the assumption that money is not a limiting factor for titan pilots, and therefore that people will shell out for officer SBs if that lets them continue do this kind of thing. All things aside, this is a pretty hilarious assumption that doesn't make sense in context. With a base sensor strength of 5, you are talking about a few seconds difference between t2 and cormack out of a probable minute+ lock time. Well worth the 4b+ sensor booster imo Gains you 25s against frigates (105 to 79, assuming 3 are fitted), 15s against cruisers (64 to 49) and 10s against battleships (44 to 33). If you see this as a big difference, then it's worth balancing around the officer fit given that dropping 12bn on SBs is not a huge fraction of the outlay for a properly-fit titan. If you don't see this as a big difference, then balancing around the officer fit isn't a big deal because it's not having a major impact. Either way, it's a functional assumption
Are you re.....d? why should i even try to lock frigate or cruiser after all of these changes? if there like 1% chance to hit cruiser? Your assumptions are pretty much invalid and to be honest lack any logical thinking so I am really intrested how you even got this job? I think you are better suited as janitor or something. Take that functional assumption. Bye.
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Shnejder
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:08:00 -
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Great, now you just need to rebalance Moongo. Oh wait, Mittens pay you to not do it |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:08:00 -
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conqueror2006 wrote: CAN CCP EXPLAIN TO PLAYERS WHY
HAD PEOPLE SPENT TOO MUTCH TIME
- skiling ... - spending bilions in skills - spending years of training - if one IBIS CAN KILL and ONE TITAN NO
AND KNOW IS f................ the playerS with all this wish to some guys.
IS BETTER SOME GUYS START AND LEARN HOW TO PLAY A GAME, IF NOT THERE IS OTHER KIND OF GAMES TO THAT PERSONS.
Just imagine how much time and money those industrialists with 10 accounts and 5 T2 BPOs have spent, and how many skills they had to train.
I reckon they should obliterate entire fleets by just showing up on grid in Viators.
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Martha Hamster
Fabeltjeskrants Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:08:00 -
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Oww yes, CCP, good job. Goonswarm demands, lets give them exactly what they want for no particular reason.
5 scan res is a joke, it has to be higher. Halved tracking is too much, but not drasticly so. 3 targets locked is too few, too, but it would be ok if the scan res was acceptable. |
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Sadron
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
64
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:09:00 -
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Nice I love it. They will be as they need to be as capital killers. So it is not nerf, but more balancing. Finally something good is happening *thumbs up*. |
Koby Botick
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:09:00 -
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Winter has come and was awesome. But now spring looks promising too.
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Bashe Zor
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:09:00 -
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Anyone who thinks titans don't need a balancing pass has never had his pod headshotted by one, after his moving BC was already destroyed by one. Think it's only drakes? Think again. I have lossmails in canes with titans on top as well.
Once a flock of titans has gone beyond a certain critical mass, it's no longer possible to kill them with numbers that are attainable in this terrible, terrible game. This isn't about 'goons whine till they get what they want and now Raiden will fall' this is about 'titans are currently broken'
(and now Raiden will fall)
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1797
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:09:00 -
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It's a good day to be an Eve Online player. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2420
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:09:00 -
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Shnejder wrote:Great, now you just need to rebalance Moongo. Oh wait, Mittens pay you to not do it
Mittens has very publicly stated that he's for a technetium nerf, whoops! "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
69
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:10:00 -
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What is the intended role for titans?
Fleet boosters? Logistical fleet bridging? Anti-capital weapons? Anti-structure weapons? Anti-subcap blapers?
Please clarify what role the titan is meant to serve, and why it's broken.
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Rick
The Ankou Raiden.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:10:00 -
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CCP your early.. april fools isnt for another 17/18 days.... |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:11:00 -
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so does this mean raidens not voting mittens for csm |
Jarnobi
D00M. Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:11:00 -
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Congatz CCP, you have made yourself look like a fu***** re****, and keep kissing Mittani a**
End off rage... |
Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
267
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:12:00 -
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Rick wrote:CCP your early.. april fools isnt for another 17/18 days....
you're* |
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