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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
454
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:27:00 -
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bye bye blapmobile |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1798
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:29:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Hahaha. I'll be honest I was expecting the first one to make it.
Remember this is just the quick-fix. There's still hope for implementing the Titan final solution.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Dan Massell
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:29:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
right again. why should alliance that can bring 200 to fleet have ANY chance for a meaningful confrontation (even at a risk of putting crazy amounts of ISK in stake) against 1600 man blob. You don't have the numbers you die. Seems fair.
balance achieved. congrats to goons. Well played mittens. |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
157
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:30:00 -
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This thread is outstanding. The funniest part about reading the crys of NCdot and Raidendot is that they fail to mention that they bring just as many blues as we do and use the blob back at us, they only drop the supers to ensure the win. Poor NCdot and Raidendot, they just lost there "being buddys with PL" card.
a bloo bloo bloo
hahahaha |
Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:31:00 -
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Dank Man wrote:Karadion wrote:Dan Massell wrote: that will most likely help remove number of alliances from the map without any serious thinking.
LOL who cares. If they can't defend their space properly without titanblobbing the enemy, maybe they deserve to lose it? yeah its way better to defend space the goon way, tell everyone they know to come to a cynojammed system in rifters so it lags so bad nobody can get in without dying before they can warp off... i like your strat bro
BoB. BoB never changes. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
61
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:31:00 -
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Mittani just outplayed the **** out of CCP.
To be more specific: Permamwd drakes are ****, everyone knows they are ****, including the goonswarm higher ups. (The rank and file cfc think they are super awesome). The entire reason for them is so mittani could point to battle reports showing drakes being massacred by titans, so clearly titans must be OP. |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:32:00 -
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Titan Advisor wrote:YOU CAN'T CUT BACK ON TRACKING! YOU WILL REGRET THIS! |
Anela Cistine
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:32:00 -
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Dan Massell wrote:Ivana Twinkle wrote:The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. right again. why should alliance that can bring 200 to fleet have ANY chance for a meaningful confrontation (even at a risk of putting crazy amounts of ISK in stake) against 1600 man blob. You don't have the numbers you die. Seems fair. balance achieved. congrats to goons. Well played mittens.
Don't worry, once the titan changes go through we wont need 1600 dudes anymore. We'll finally be able to reset test and kick widot. |
Jin Nongmin
Chinese ISK Farmers
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:32:00 -
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Tector wrote:Fellow Goons we should be kinder to these aggrieved titan pilots. I'd be pretty upset too if I spent several thousand dollars on an internet spaceship or months botting like mad to afford one.
Prease to don't be sirry. Thousand chinese children make titan in one day. Only cost two sack rice. prease to be visit isk4rice.orphanage.notascam.com.cn for titan. onry best rice accept |
Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:32:00 -
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Razzor Death wrote:This thread is outstanding. The funniest part about reading the crys of NCdot and Raidendot is that they fail to mention that they bring just as many blues as we do and use the blob back at us, they only drop the supers to ensure the win. Poor NCdot and Raidendot, they just lost there "being buddys with PL" card.
a bloo bloo bloo
hahahaha
The best part is now the sales section
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EliphasTheBetrayer
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:34:00 -
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pls dont nerf my titan guys LOLOLOL etc
Sailing on an ocean of tears.
Bout time CCP did something like this to Titans. |
Xolani1990
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:35:00 -
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I am enjoying reading through all the posts in here that talk about how numbers (as in, numbers of subcaps) will become the deciding factor for the success of an alliance, as though they are totally oblivious (some of them probably wilfully) to the fact that the current measure of success for an alliance is how many titans and supercarriers they have.
The vast majority of players in eve are subcapital pilots without any capital capability whatsoever, and so subcapitals should be at least as important a determining factor in an alliance's success as their capital fleet. |
muhuh Aihaken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:35:00 -
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If you want to make Titans just useful for bridging and useless in combat then you should reduce the cost of them to the same as a super carrier and let them dock .
Or if you want them to server an anti-cap role leave there scan res as it is now and up there dd damage so they can take out super carriers. |
Jin Nongmin
Chinese ISK Farmers
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:36:00 -
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Tector wrote:Fellow Goons we should be kinder to these aggrieved titan pilots. I'd be pretty upset too if I spent several thousand dollars on an internet spaceship or months botting like mad to afford one.
Prease to don't be sirry. Thousand chinese children make titan in one day. Only cost two sack rice. prease to be visit isk4rice.orphanage.notascam.com.cn for titan. Onry best rice accept preaes |
C'sandre
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:36:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:needed to resolve the specific issue (titans performing excessively well against subcaps in certain circumstances)
(low transversal at optimal ranges) CCP Greyscale wrote: XL turret tracking halvedGÇÜ s-û-¦ge module track-ûng penalty removed
You realise what this does to Moros right? And how people use them? CCP Greyscale wrote: Titans reduced to 3 maximum locked targets, and base scan resolution reduced to 5
So just being able to track subcaps isn't enough, you have to make it harder to lock and kill anything at the same time? Why wasn't the halving of tracking enough of a change? CCP Greyscale wrote: Changes considered and discarded:
(I'm expecting at least three people to not read the word "discarded" and make angry posts about something in this section. C'est la vie.)
Titans can't lock subcaps at all
Guaranteed effective solution, but we considered it too hacky and restrictive.
Adding a "minimum sig radius" attribute to turrets, below which damage would fall off regardless of tracking
Too big a change and more technical work than we actually needed to solve the problem.
Hahaha. I'll be honest I was expecting the first one to make it.
Nice Sir Bruce. And I can't decide which I love more, how seriously you take your Eve: Online A Bad Game or how bad you are at titans shouldn't kill subcaps even at low transversal and optimal range. |
BioZvin
The Ankou Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:38:00 -
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Can we get the skill points we wasted on titan stuff and the minerals back from hulls +rigs. Something like with the learning skills and social thing.
So let me get this strait, biggest ship in the game can fire its weapon once every 10-50min "TD bonus" is stuck for the same 10-50min. it can't use the guns on anything but caps effectively And now it has a constant siege mod effect locking same amount as dread in siege same lock time as a dread in siege if you buy 3 cormacks sensor boosters.
Mine is for sale, CSM is fine but CCP you have to remember democracy is oppression of 49%.
What is this with cormack boosters... Don't think 1/10 of the Raiden Titans have anything better then Shadow... And we have been lucky our enemy have no clue how to fly ships in eve. |
Marcus Demitri
Genesis Nation Gentlemen's Agreement
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:39:00 -
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Twas a most welcome surprise for me this morning to hear that titan tracking is being addressed. I say Mr. Greyscale, you are both a gentleman and a humanitarian. |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
840
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:40:00 -
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We still on page 10? Sup page 10. Just checking in to say,
DEATH TO ALL SUPERCAPS. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2442
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:41:00 -
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BioZvin wrote:Can we get the skill points we wasted on titan stuff and the minerals back from hulls +rigs. Something like with the learning skills and social thing.
So let me get this strait, biggest ship in the game can fire its weapon once every 10-50min "TD bonus" is stuck for the same 10-50min. it can't use the guns on anything but caps effectively And now it has a constant siege mod effect locking same amount as dread in siege same lock time as a dread in siege if you buy 3 cormacks sensor boosters.
Mine is for sale, CSM is fine but CCP you have to remember democracy is oppression of 49%.
What is this with cormack boosters... Don't think 1/10 of the Raiden Titans have anything better then Shadow... And we have been lucky our enemy have no clue how to fly ships in eve.
EVE Online TOS wrote:CCP MAY FIND IT NECESSARY ON OCCASION TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR RESET CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF THE PERSISTENT GAME WORLD MECHANICS, INTERFACE OR FEATURES OF EVE ONLINE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN GAME BALANCE AND ENHANCE PLAYABILITY OR PERFORMANCE FOR ITS SUBSCRIBERS. THESE CHANGES MAY AFFECT OR CAUSE SETBACKS FOR THE CHARACTERS YOUGÇÖVE CREATED. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
611
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:41:00 -
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CCP-U Should Promote Greyscale |
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Anariasis
Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner Ev0ke
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:41:00 -
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Congratulations CCP, you have finally succeded in making a COMBAT ship worth 1000 drakes (in ISK) utterly useless in COMBAT
With this change u are making fools of anybody investing much time and hard work in getting Titans. Very nice move towards making battle tactics and setup even less important when the side with more guys just has to win
This Game got a another step closer to being WoW in Space today. |
Sanders RUS
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:42:00 -
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Its a terrible plan, what CCP is doing effectively relegates titans to no clear purpose until they have the time to spend on deciding on a role for them. This takes a game that was moderately broken in favor of titan blobs and breaks it in completely the other direction making titans useless until a rebalance. In effect you're giving subcap heavy alliances carte blanche to expand their holdings until you can get around to giving titans a clear role again.. It may be broken now, but CCP should be investing the time and resources to give titans a clear role rather than kicking those 1200 pilots in the nuts and with promises of 'we'll make your 90b ship useful again someday'. They've nerfed titan EHP, taken away the drone bay, made them unable to DD subcaps, and now making them effectively a sieged dreadnaught w/o the siege module. Titan pilots have a right to be pissed about this, this is pretty 'old ccp' behavior here we dont pay to play a game based on 'good things to come'. |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
615
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:42:00 -
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CCP-U Should Promote Greyscale |
Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
30
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:42:00 -
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C'sandre wrote: Nice Sir Bruce. And I can't decide which I love more, how seriously you take your Eve: Online A Bad Game or how bad you are at titans shouldn't kill subcaps even at low transversal and optimal range.
I remember when Goons didn't take EVE seriously and then they became infested with pubbie faggots.
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Lorginir
1
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:43:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote: Changing XL missiles to match
While in a strictly regimented world we ought in principle to nerf XL missiles and remove the penalties from the siege module for them too, in practice they're not actually a problem due to the way missile damage scales against small targets. Leaving them unchanged also serves to differentiate missiles further from turrets, which might make them more useful on capitals under certain circumstances.
Citadel still sucks. What else could we expected. |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:44:00 -
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Jita Bloodtear wrote:What is the intended role for titans?
Fleet boosters? Logistical fleet bridging? Anti-capital weapons? Anti-structure weapons? Anti-subcap blapers?
Please clarify what role the titan is meant to serve, and why it's broken.
You should start by reading old Titan description (before any were built), then search for threads around the time ASCN built first one, then look at CCP's reaction when there were something like 50 titans in game. Maybe you'll get an idea.
If you couldn't figure out by now that Titan will in the future (most likely) lose all offensive capacity except the doomsday, and that it will act as a mobile fleet support platform, then please bot for a titan.
There is no other possible role for Titans that won't break the game.
I wish they've removed titan turret hardpoints altogether.
Death to all supercapitals. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
456
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:44:00 -
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BioZvin wrote: And we have been lucky our enemy have no clue how to fly ships in eve. 1) step in titan 2) make sure everyone else in fleet has titan
don't worry though since you guys are so great at flying ships I'm sure this change will effect you minimally |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:45:00 -
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Dan Massell wrote:Emily Heapy wrote:Dank Man wrote:Wow, ccp you must love goons and blobs. because this nerf make the bigger subcap blob win all fights, congrats mittens and goons, you cried enough on the forums and welped enough fleets into capital weapons that you got what you wanted, a capital weapon shield! gg. Now wipe those tears Mister. Every cloud and all that, at least now you will learn that PvP is more than just Log on titan > Slam head against keyboard and pwn everything. You may even learn some kills now!!!! Regards Emily p.s. I will buy your titan, 30b isk ready i know. because you know lots about PVP because zergling 1600 man fleet across entire region is real PVP. the ONLY thing smaller alliances have against nonsense like this kind of a blob was until now to grow some balls and deploy trillions of ISK on the battlefield and try to even the odds. But that's not real PVP. I know. CCP Grayscale man... stop embarrassing yourself here saying we don't have time to really deal with this the way it should be. we have no resources for that so we going to deploy the most significant change that will most likely help remove number of alliances from the map without any serious thinking. we will finish this later when goons online is completed. Until then all of you who spent 120bil buying and fitting a tit go and spend 30bil more so you can get your lock time to around 45 sec. Its just disrespectful.
Why are you embarrassed to post with your titan pilot char? |
Forest Hill
WDGAS Holding MPA
3
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:46:00 -
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Any change that gets this much Goon love can't be good for Eve Online. I wasn't worried, but now I am. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
99
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:48:00 -
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NiM Cal wrote:Selling early tickets for the "nerf tracking dreads and sentry carriers" bandwagon, get on quick while team goon are too smug to notice.
Fatcats and Slowcats, thy day has come.
Sentry carriers are fine
annoying but fine
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