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DangerosoDavo
EVE Is Dead
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:40:00 -
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new spawns: http://www.evesecurity.com/quick/up/74b5b664b80188e17153650d13ba3bbe.jpg
Now battleships in the belts are no longer of a single rat type and are instead mixed. Effectivly nerfing belt ratting because chaining is affected.
So, how it was before... you chained high value spawns (triple 1.8M bountys) to get a higher ISK/Hour Income. This now becomes impossible as the Bs's will not be consistent, so the effective Max ISK/Hour income is reduced considerably.
Anyway this is an informational post only and not a whine or rage or rant :D
I just noticed it and it wasnt in the patch notes. Was it intentional? |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:45:00 -
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CCP answer seems to be that nothing has changed https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=929873#post929873 New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:45:00 -
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I don't think chaining was ever intentional to begin with so frankly if this is the case I wouldn't call it a nerf but instead a fix.
It is probably a good thing anyway. Ratting is by far the largest faucet in EvE and it needs to be toned down a bit. This would be a good way of doing just that. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Grumpy Owly
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:46:00 -
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I think the stock answer is HTFU and adapt to EvE as a challenging environment.
I mean heaven forbid that CCP might mix things up a bit for a challenge, largely intended as a suprise I would feel rather than everything remaining terribly predictable? Isnt this also something players have been asking for? Bounty Hunting for CSM 7
Stop EvE Apathy |
DangerosoDavo
EVE Is Dead
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Posted - 2012.03.13 13:54:00 -
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Clearly has changed. I would go as far as to say that said CCP Guy is wrong. |
Roosterton
Syndicalis Immortalis The Skeleton Crew
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:25:00 -
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CCP guy isn't wrong - there have always been two kinds of rats in a belt, such as battleships paired with warp scram frigs. The guy asking the question was bad at wording it, and should have said two different kinds of the same size of rat, rather than just two different rats.
Anyway - how would chaining be affected? As long as the group still travels as a spawn, it should be possible to still kill all the big stuff and then wait for it to respawn. I guess I'll see later today when I kill some belt rats... |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:34:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: [snip]
It is probably a good thing to screw PvP'ers who don't want to go perma-blinky, or who don't want to be slaves to zerosec RMT/bot-plantation barons anyway. Incursions [are] by far the largest faucet in EvE and [they] won't be toned down a bit, as CCP keeps whoring for carebear subs. This would be a good way of dumbing down EVE even further, faster.
There: All fixed up for you--that's what you meant to say, after all, innit?
In irae, veritas. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:35:00 -
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You got 2 spawns at the same time in a belt. Rare thing to have, keep that screenshot.
The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
DangerosoDavo
EVE Is Dead
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:39:00 -
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gfldex wrote:You got 2 spawns at the same time in a belt. Rare thing to have, keep that screenshot.
Not anymore, happens in every belt now they arent two different spawns, the spawns are just different now. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1069
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:46:00 -
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Along with this, they've quietly modified the way sec status is rewarded so that only the player dealing the killing blow gets anything.
Way to nerf cooperative play, CCP. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:49:00 -
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DangerosoDavo wrote:new spawns: http://www.evesecurity.com/quick/up/74b5b664b80188e17153650d13ba3bbe.jpgNow battleships in the belts are no longer of a single rat type and are instead mixed. Effectivly nerfing belt ratting because chaining is affected. So, how it was before... you chained high value spawns (triple 1.8M bountys) to get a higher ISK/Hour Income. This now becomes impossible as the Bs's will not be consistent, so the effective Max ISK/Hour income is reduced considerably. Anyway this is an informational post only and not a whine or rage or rant :D I just noticed it and it wasnt in the patch notes. Was it intentional?
i sure hope it was intentional!
2/3 of eve's isk is generated from npc bounties... if you can reduce isk generated then you can reduce inflation...
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:51:00 -
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Thank goodness (or what a pity...) - it is hilarious the number of nullbears I've managed to upset by ******* up their chaining. Oh how they wailed and threatened and gnashed their teeth...perfection!
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
DangerosoDavo
EVE Is Dead
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Posted - 2012.03.13 15:54:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:i sure hope it was intentional!
2/3 of eve's isk is generated from npc bounties... if you can reduce isk generated then you can reduce inflation...
You are semi correct, 2 thirds of eves isk may come from bounties however it should be ntoed that this includes ALL bounties, from plex's/anoms/missions, i would hazard a guess and suggest belt ratting to be at the lower end of that stat.
But ill leave that to the CCP stat guy :D awesome guy that one.
Furthermore, imo CCP should nerf incursions and increase isk sinks instead of messing with something like belts which lets face it are bad anyways right? |
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CCP Bettik
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:39:00 -
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Yes I can confirm this has changed. It totally got missed in the patch notes and I will try to remedy that now.
We were refactoring how npcGÇÿs through groups spawned and this was one small fix on that. So now you are not guaranteed to get always the same type of npc of the same size in the group. This applies to missions and belt rats.
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:46:00 -
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Oh boy, you belt ratters get to relearn how to game the game again! Enjoy! You've really got to look at this with a positive attitude. The game being so old has been getting kinda blah since everything is documented. Now you get to re-;learn it all over again and be real Eve pioneers. Eve the game that keeps on giving! *sarcasm off* We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:53:00 -
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CCP Bettik wrote:Yes I can confirm this has changed. It totally got missed in the patch notes and I will try to remedy that now.
We were refactoring how npcGÇÿs through groups spawned and this was one small fix on that. So now you are not guaranteed to get always the same type of npc of the same size in the group. This applies to missions and belt rats.
Does it apply to anomalies and plexes as well ? |
Pesadel0
the muppets RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2012.03.13 16:58:00 -
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CCP Bettik wrote:Yes I can confirm this has changed. It totally got missed in the patch notes and I will try to remedy that now.
We were refactoring how npcGÇÿs through groups spawned and this was one small fix on that. So now you are not guaranteed to get always the same type of npc of the same size in the group. This applies to missions and belt rats.
Lol really? I mean here i was aspecting to see it was a bug , and it is a feature , god damm .Belt ratting truly is now dead, and by the way the bs named cruise missile and torpedo are new features aswell? |
Capacity gear
Stella Contego Security Stella Stargate Security
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:03:00 -
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CCP Bettik wrote:Yes I can confirm this has changed. It totally got missed in the patch notes and I will try to remedy that now.
We were refactoring how npcGÇÿs through groups spawned and this was one small fix on that. So now you are not guaranteed to get always the same type of npc of the same size in the group. This applies to missions and belt rats.
only one question,.... why? |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:04:00 -
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Why is belt ratting dead? Just kill all the spawns now and hope for a faction spawn, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. Jesus, damn nullbears.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:07:00 -
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wait missions as well?
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:14:00 -
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OH NOES! STATIC CONTENT GETTING A LIFE! Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |
Capacity gear
Stella Contego Security Stella Stargate Security
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:16:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:wait missions as well?
Thats what the CCP guys said,. though one of them previously said nothing was changed,. and another forgot about it altogther,.. so who knows??? lol
personally i just consult my magic 8 ball,. 'Outlook not so good'
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baltec1
806
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:17:00 -
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Stuff has happened, or not. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:18:00 -
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Chaining has never been the best isk spinner anyway. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
380
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:18:00 -
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good thing i dont rat or mission. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:34:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: [snip]
It is probably a good thing to screw PvP'ers who don't want to go perma-blinky, or who don't want to be slaves to zerosec RMT/bot-plantation barons anyway. Incursions [are] by far the largest faucet in EvE and [they] won't be toned down a bit, as CCP keeps whoring for carebear subs. This would be a good way of dumbing down EVE even further, faster. There: All fixed up for you--that's what you meant to say, after all, innit? No it's not. I meant exactly what I said. CCP has already stated that Incursions are NOT the biggest faucet in EvE. Now quit editing my posts with your nonsense crap. Not everybody who has a different opinion than you is a bot. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:48:00 -
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CCP Bettik wrote:Yes I can confirm this has changed. It totally got missed in the patch notes and I will try to remedy that now.
We were refactoring how npcGÇÿs through groups spawned and this was one small fix on that. So now you are not guaranteed to get always the same type of npc of the same size in the group. This applies to missions and belt rats.
Can you please tell TomB and Zulu that neither know how this game works then? TomB - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=929873#post929873 Zulu - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=929925#post929925
Quite disturing to see two guys who been with EVE for so long, posting crap on forums that nearly every EVE player can tell them is false.
Thanks Bettik for the info tho, and nice to see some staff do know the game. this is a signature |
Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
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Posted - 2012.03.13 17:54:00 -
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CCP Tracking report.......
A) "working as intended" B) "The logs show nothing" C) "It's a feature, not a bug" D) "We heard Incursions were where the isk is, so lets make the missioners do them too" E) "All of the above"
New excuses / answers as they become available..... |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2519
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:08:00 -
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lol people belt rat "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
858
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:54:00 -
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Snap, isk faucet just got nerfed.
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