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Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:42:00 -
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What this service is . .
We run your level 5 missions for you
You get all the LP / ISK / Standing for completing the mission without any of the risks or standing losses
We get a fixed ISK payment from you for each mission completed
Typical Mission payout is 80-100K LP + 5 Million (This does not include the time bonus because you probably won't get that)
We charge 20-50 Million depending upon the mission See this spreadsheet for agents to use and missions that we will accept https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkXXHSw9Kx54dGpFRXZfWm5JVFBtLWRWY3dST0pBUFE
How it works . . Fly a shuttle (or covert ops) to the mission agents that we service. Accept any mission that is on our "mission list" and that you will make a profit from given our fees Fly to the mission spot and bookmark the location Rename the bookmark "Date Expires - Your Name - Mission Name" for example "2012-03-17 - Fango Mango - Cleaning House Contract all the bookmarks to Me in Stacmon or Rens
We'll complete the mission for you and contract back to you any required items You pay us the published fee. If you don't pay within 3 days, we stop doing business with you.
Simple as that
Send me an Evemail if you have questions or to set up bulk deals
Regular customer are welcome to join in a shuttle/covert ops so they can watch the action and learn to run the missions themselves
If you and a bunch of friends/alts want to submit lots of missions at a time we can offer you a nice discount
-FM |
Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
140
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Posted - 2012.03.15 03:22:00 -
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This is quite interesting. Why do you use other players level 5's and not just run them yourself? "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" Enter a Heroic Era Today |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 03:56:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:This is quite interesting. Why do you use other players level 5's and not just run them yourself?
Excellent question . . .
we run probably close to 100 L5s per week.
we want MOAR income.
All the time is spent changing system, talking to agents, ect ect ect.
if we had a group of say 10-20 missions per system we could complete around 15 missions per hour.
At an average of 40 million per mission that works out to 600 mil/hour split between two players . . .
Great income for us. And our users get the rewards for running L5s without needing to take any of the risks.
its a win win for everyone
-FM |
Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
4
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:41:00 -
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I see only 2 problems wiht your plan... 1. bookmarks has to be made, recived and done before next restart of server. 2. corporations you service have crappy LP shops... |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:10:00 -
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Kiwis23 wrote:I see only 2 problems wiht your plan... 1. bookmarks has to be made, recived and done before next restart of server. 2. corporations you service have crappy LP shops...
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
1. Mission bookmarks (either to the deadspace location in a non-gate mission or the initial gate in gated missions) remain valid after downtown. The only time I have seen this break was when crucible was released in november, but I'm sure its happened during other major releases in EVE's history.
2. Every corporation that has L5 missions has a "crappy" LP store. That is because hundreds (maybe thousands) up players like me are dumping up to 10Million LP/week onto the market. How much is this "Crappy" LP worth? Well if all you can do is sell to buy orders in Jita its worth around 50 Million/mission. If you're willing to set up sell orders that jumps to around 75 Million/Mission. If you're willing to do your research and sell faction items or set up sell orders outside of Jita the LP is worth about 125 Million/Mission. If you can't make a profit selling the LP given the prices that I charge then accept that you are either very stupid or very lazy and go back to your incursions.
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Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
4
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:01:00 -
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Never done incursions, only do missions. 1. I just know that after downtime you have to revisit agent to respawn mission. maybe Lvl 5 missions works different, who knows, never done those. 2. I did my research, checked every bpc in those shops, and every worthwile implant. maximum i found was 500 isk/LP. in jita prices i mean. I never check other region prices, because they might be 200% more profitable, but that does not mean anyone buys there. |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:26:00 -
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Kiwis23 wrote:Never done incursions, only do missions. 1. I just know that after downtime you have to revisit agent to respawn mission. maybe Lvl 5 missions works different, who knows, never done those. 2. I did my research, checked every bpc in those shops, and every worthwile implant. maximum i found was 500 isk/LP. in jita prices i mean. I never check other region prices, because they might be 200% more profitable, but that does not mean anyone buys there.
1. You really are a fracking moron . . . Try this simple test . . . 1) Accept a mission . . . 2) Fly to the mission and bookmark the location . . . 3) Fly to that bookmark tomorrow. The ships will magically respawn! No need to re-visit agents
2. You did not do very good research. Example #1 - Republic Fleet Fusion S - Profit/LP selling to BUY ORDERS IN JITA - 1101 ISK/LP - Volume 175K units at this price Example #2 - Small Autocannon Specialization - Profit/LP selling to BUY ORDERS IN JITA - 704 ISK/LP - Volume 129 units at this price
the list goes on and on and on . . .
My spreadsheet has
Over 30 items that BUY for more than 600 ISK/LP in Jita
~15 items that BUY for more than 1000 ISK/LP in Jita
Over 30 Items that Sell for more than 1000 ISK/LP in Jita
~10 Items that sell for more than 1400 ISK/LP in Jita
Set up your spreadsheet to include Rens, Dodixie, Amarr, and Hek as well and you can move all kinds of LP
Actually I suggest that you stop playing eve now and focus your time on your education instead of playing games . . .
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Tabernack en Chasteaux
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
45
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Posted - 2012.03.15 22:15:00 -
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Fango Mango wrote: You really are a fracking moron . . .
Actually I suggest that you stop playing eve now and focus your time on your education instead of playing games . . .
You sound mad. Are you mad? |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2012.03.15 22:21:00 -
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Tabernack en Chasteaux wrote:Fango Mango wrote: You really are a fracking moron . . .
Actually I suggest that you stop playing eve now and focus your time on your education instead of playing games . . .
You sound mad. Are you mad?
That's not madness, that's righteous educational fury.
Teach high school maths for long enough and you'll feel the same way. |
King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
229
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Posted - 2012.03.15 22:57:00 -
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Hunting you down and killing you repeatedly for tanking the LP market all on your own seems like an endeavor worthy of my time.
Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 |
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Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:24:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:Hunting you down and killing you repeatedly for tanking the LP market all on your own seems like an endeavor worthy of my time.
First off. Good hunting!!! You should be able to find us pretty easy with that spread sheet :)
As far as tanking the LP market . . . I started my L5 kick maybe 3 months ago. Since that time I've dumped a whole lot of LP(I dunno maybe 60-80 Million LP) on the market. The only thing I've noticed over that time is that my profit margin has remained the same and my sales volume has increased.
The skill book market can be depressed by dumping LP and takes 2-3 weeks to recover.
I haven't been able to dump enough ammo to affect the prices.
The contract market varies over the course of a week, but weekend prices have remained the same week after week.
I have noticed a massive uptick in the contract market volume though. Perhaps a steady supply of parts has caused more people to include them in their "standard fits".
I think I am still a small fry compared to the "PvP corps" that hang out and farm L5s 95% of their time.
-FM |
Akeirah
Pixel Universe Brokerage Services
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:24:00 -
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Whether or not the price is worth the service is usually up to the customer. If they can do this, and make any sort of profit with the LP over the price of the service, It's ISK for doing nothing but visiting the agent and making a BM. If you have the standings, start missions with all the agents. Then go do something else while ISK is made for you.
If his customers don't make ISK, they won't use the service and he will drop prices to get customers back.
Either way, this would have been better posted in the Sell Orders forums... and probably would have generated a lot less trolls. |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:25:00 -
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Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:32:00 -
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Akeirah wrote:Whether or not the price is worth the service is usually up to the customer. If they can do this, and make any sort of profit with the LP over the price of the service, It's ISK for doing nothing but visiting the agent and making a BM. If you have the standings, start missions with all the agents. Then go do something else while ISK is made for you.
If his customers don't make ISK, they won't use the service and he will drop prices to get customers back.
Either way, this would have been better posted in the Sell Orders forums... and probably would have generated a lot less trolls.
Thanks for the comment.
I figured my target audience is L4 missions runners that are unwilling to mission in low sec, and thought there would be more of them here than looking through the sell orders forum.
Also, I consider Missions and Complexes to be my home forum :)
-FM |
Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
718
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Posted - 2012.03.16 05:18:00 -
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A very interesting service :)
For a flat fee it is well worth people taking you up on it, even if the L5's are done with the Gallente (stacmon), and especially Minmatar (rens).
Edit, just saw ur spreadsheet The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Lady Aja
30
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Posted - 2012.03.16 10:36:00 -
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what about anti faction missions? who gets the tags? |
Maluscious Melody
Frequent Moose Frequent Moose and Friends
8
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Posted - 2012.03.16 13:40:00 -
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Lady Aja wrote:what about anti faction missions? who gets the tags?
This please |
Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.03.16 14:57:00 -
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Lady Aja wrote:what about anti faction missions? who gets the tags?
tags? There are no tags.
Tags require that you blow up ships.
Blowing up ships means that you aren't blitzing.
-FM |
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ISD 3-14
Community Communications Liaisons
2
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:11:00 -
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Doc Banshee
Baby Seal Bashing Club Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
1
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:43:00 -
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Fango Mango wrote:What this service is . . We run your level 5 missions for you You get all the LP / ISK / Standing for completing the mission without any of the risks or standing losses We get a fixed ISK payment from you for each mission completed Typical Mission payout is 80-100K LP + 5 Million (This does not include the time bonus because you probably won't get that) We charge 20-50 Million depending upon the mission See this spreadsheet for agents to use and missions that we will accept https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkXXHSw9Kx54dGpFRXZfWm5JVFBtLWRWY3dST0pBUFEHow it works . . Fly a shuttle (or covert ops) to the mission agents that we service. Accept any mission that is on our "mission list" and that you will make a profit from given our fees Fly to the mission spot and bookmark the location Rename the bookmark "Date Expires - Your Name - Mission Name" for example "2012-03-17 - Fango Mango - Cleaning House Contract all the bookmarks to Me in Stacmon or Rens We'll complete the mission for you and contract back to you any required items You pay us the published fee. If you don't pay within 3 days, we stop doing business with you. Simple as that Send me an Evemail if you have questions or to set up bulk deals Regular customer are welcome to join in a shuttle/covert ops so they can watch the action and learn to run the missions themselves If you and a bunch of friends/alts want to submit lots of missions at a time we can offer you a nice discount -FM
You should really work on your sales pitch.
1. Why use your service, when the average level 5 runner can easily pull in 3-6 million loyalty points a day. Even up to 10 million loyalty points a day. And keep all the profit for himself.
Sure it takes an investment to get started.
But on average, it takes 3,14 minute to run any of the 13 good level 5 missions. And thats using a single char.
You get around 96000 loyalty points per mission, around 11 million in reward/timebonus. 96000 loyalty points sell for 450 isk/lp (fast trade to sell orders) or 600 isk / lp (if you cba.)
So.
If 'someone' runs the mission using your service, they get between 5-20 million out of it. (after paying you) Not using it, they get 20-50 million out of it (with a 1,1bn potential from a single mission. You know which one I'm talking about)
So if you could explain why an aspiring level 5 runner shouldn't just join one of the established level 5 corps. Or get some blue standings with them. I think it would help alot on your service
\Doc |
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Fango Mango
University of Caille Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.03.16 21:07:00 -
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Doc Banshee wrote:
You should really work on your sales pitch.
1. Why use your service, when the average level 5 runner can easily pull in 3-6 million loyalty points a day. Even up to 10 million loyalty points a day. And keep all the profit for himself.
Sure it takes an investment to get started.
But on average, it takes 3,14 minute to run any of the 13 good level 5 missions. And thats using a single char.
You get around 96000 loyalty points per mission, around 11 million in reward/timebonus. 96000 loyalty points sell for 450 isk/lp (fast trade to sell orders) or 600 isk / lp (if you cba.)
So.
If 'someone' runs the mission using your service, they get between 5-20 million out of it. (after paying you) Not using it, they get 20-50 million out of it (with a 1,1bn potential from a single mission. You know which one I'm talking about)
So if you could explain why an aspiring level 5 runner shouldn't just join one of the established level 5 corps. Or get some blue standings with them. I think it would help alot on your service
\Doc
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You should convo me. I might be able to provide a solution to your mission problem ;)
Some people just don't want to fly missions in low sec. Of course they could make more ISK running the L5s themselves. I encourage interested people to read my numerous posts in Missions and Complexes on how the easily/cheaply/safely run L5s. I offer all my regular clients the option to join me on mission runs so they can learn to run them from me. I offer just about every friendly person I meet in Eve the option to run L5s with me (and have made some great friends that way). I'm not trying to trick or take advantage of my customers. I offer a service that WE BOTH make massive amounts of ISK from.
Fly to station, make bookmark, exchange LP for ISK. For some people it's not worth the hassle to learning low sec and learn the missions. If just offer them another option - a service for which I get well paid.
-FM |
Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
4
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Posted - 2012.03.24 00:57:00 -
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Decided to try and gave him 3 missions... one of them is to expire tomorrow... either don't say that you do missions with minmatar at all or please be kind enough to do your service atleast twice a week... |
Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
4
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Posted - 2012.03.26 17:38:00 -
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So far so good, managed to finish just in time. |
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