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Allaria Kriss
Minmatar Elipse Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 02:21:00 -
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You may remember me making a post a long time ago about neutral logistics repairing wartargets without getting a combat timer (IE, they can dock or jump instantly).
Faction Warfare has escalated this to a new level.
Now we can have heavily-tanked wartargets in high-sec that tank the faction navy with the help of 'neutral' remote-repair ships that can jump or dock immediately, and not only that, but they don't get shot by the faction navy. This means that hostiles can go anywhere they want in hostile space as long as they have a few neutral reppers with them. On top of that, because of the random spawning of the faction navy, the neutral doesn't need to repair ALL of the wartargets - The faction navy will not attack some of them no matter how long they sit there.
My proposal has expanded:
1) Logistics should give you a combat timer - You remote-repair a war target, you can't dock or jump for a while, just the same as if you shot someone. This was the proposal from Part 1. 2) If you remote-repair someone in a militia, you flag to the enemy militia - Players AND NPCs. This means that if you repair a militia member in hostile high-sec, a Navy detachment will spawn to attack you as well. 3) The Faction Navy should spawn per hostile after a set period of time, instead of spawning for a particular number of them, and generally not attacking certain people. This ensures that any incursion is met with an appropriate level of force.
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MongWen
Faction Killers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 02:27:00 -
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i can agree to it, and it makes sence ;)
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Rapture454
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Posted - 2008.06.28 02:28:00 -
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Make sense.
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Garek Law
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 02:32:00 -
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Actively Repairing someone whos a whos got an aggression time is like aiding crimals in RL. If you choose to help some one with a aggression then your actively commiting the same act as he it.
They should be flagged.
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laurazine
First Caldari Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.28 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: laurazine on 28/06/2008 02:40:24 I agree, just one in a number of loopholes that need to be closed
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Akiba Penrose
Minmatar PAK
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Posted - 2008.06.28 02:41:00 -
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Not signed. I can understand proposal 2, but not 1 and 3. Logistic ships and RR is used elswhere also, not only in high sec by militia. - - Falcons |
Akiba Penrose
Minmatar PAK
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Posted - 2008.06.28 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Garek Law Actively Repairing someone whos a whos got an aggression time is like aiding crimals in RL. If you choose to help some one with a aggression then your actively commiting the same act as he it.
They should be flagged.
If you RR someone that has a Global Criminal Counter you will be flagged and get a GCC yourself. If you remote rep someone who is in war, you will be flagged to his wartargets. So everything you said should be, is allready. - - Falcons |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.28 04:27:00 -
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1 is reasonable, 2 is necessary, but I don't like 3 - I prefer the idea of putting together a big enough force for high-sec raids. ------------------ Fix the forums! |
Allaria Kriss
Minmatar Elipse Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 04:31:00 -
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Akiba: Where else would #1 be an issue, really? Repping POS's? You have a giant bloody force field there, right? Repping people in your gang? You're getting shot at anyway right? The only people #1 really affects is people who rely on station-tanking to keep their logistics ships alive. Everyone else can wait for a minute or two to dock again.
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Akiba Penrose
Minmatar PAK
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Akiba Penrose on 28/06/2008 11:11:07 From the top of my head; One situation iv been in several times is when you attack a gatecamp and they lit up a cyno and drop a few carriers on you. Since most of the gang is tackled we stay on the gate and RR while we wait for the timer to pass so we can jump.
I dont see the need for giving RR a combat timer, just because some militia dudes is playing the docking game with you.
Edit: Fix the docking mechanism instead,, thats whats broken imo. - - Falcons |
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