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Nebulous
Minmatar
The Flaming Sideburn's
Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:18:00 -
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This for the best part might sound like a rant, but i'm basically putting my opinion across about why I think british pubs are shutting down at the fastest rate ever.
1. Pub owners blame the smoking ban, I personally stopped smoking when the ban came into place, I knew that only being able to smoke more or less at home would be pointless (plus I did really want to stop I guess), I stopped so everyone else can at least try to or stop crying about it, pubs are now a better environment without the smoke and what pubs have lost in smokers they would have gained from non smokers going back to pubs, so in general I think this is a crap excuse.
2. Pub owners blame increased tax on beer, again this is not true. I believe people don't mind paying a bit extra if they know they are going to be able to have a nice atmosphere and some entertainment while they drink, however most pubs seem to carelessly continue to serve people that crawl to the bar barely being able to speak as well as still not doing anything about underage drinkers, you think i'm going to spend a fortune having a drink in a place full of drunk kids and morons? No! of course i'm not. Most the time when I go to a pub with my girlfriend I am driving so I have to drink cola or any other soft drinks they have available. Last week we go to what seems like a nice pub, I go up to the bar and order my girlfriend a white wine and a cola (half pint) for myself, the barmaid goes "thats ú4.80p please" straight away I think "damn that wine is expensive" so I say "how much was the wine?" then she reply's "ú1.80p" "that means the coke is ú3?" "yes sir", this in my opinion is a disgrace, pubs continue to blame tax on alcohol for declining numbers at the pubs and yet they continue to screw drivers over by charging them extortionate amounts of money for an almost untaxed soft drink, so again the whole extra tax does not effect pubs a great deal in my opinion.
3. We now live in the year 2008, yet landlords still continue to fit out their pubs to look like they were built in the victorian times, for the best part this "was" a good idea, but I think people (especially younger people 20's and 30's) are not feeling they are being catered for, this has also added to an increase in people going to what some consider "trendy" wine bars etc, i'm not saying pubs have to look like wine bars but a bit of discreet modernisation can go a long way.
I'm sorry if you are a pub landlord or know someone that owns a pub and are offended by this, but it is time the public house trade stopped blaming the government and the people for their demise and started looking in the mirror and what the true cause is.
Please discuss 
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Nebulous
Minmatar
The Flaming Sideburn's
Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.28 11:18:00 -
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This for the best part might sound like a rant, but i'm basically putting my opinion across about why I think british pubs are shutting down at the fastest rate ever.
1. Pub owners blame the smoking ban, I personally stopped smoking when the ban came into place, I knew that only being able to smoke more or less at home would be pointless (plus I did really want to stop I guess), I stopped so everyone else can at least try to or stop crying about it, pubs are now a better environment without the smoke and what pubs have lost in smokers they would have gained from non smokers going back to pubs, so in general I think this is a crap excuse.
2. Pub owners blame increased tax on beer, again this is not true. I believe people don't mind paying a bit extra if they know they are going to be able to have a nice atmosphere and some entertainment while they drink, however most pubs seem to carelessly continue to serve people that crawl to the bar barely being able to speak as well as still not doing anything about underage drinkers, you think i'm going to spend a fortune having a drink in a place full of drunk kids and morons? No! of course i'm not. Most the time when I go to a pub with my girlfriend I am driving so I have to drink cola or any other soft drinks they have available. Last week we go to what seems like a nice pub, I go up to the bar and order my girlfriend a white wine and a cola (half pint) for myself, the barmaid goes "thats ú4.80p please" straight away I think "damn that wine is expensive" so I say "how much was the wine?" then she reply's "ú1.80p" "that means the coke is ú3?" "yes sir", this in my opinion is a disgrace, pubs continue to blame tax on alcohol for declining numbers at the pubs and yet they continue to screw drivers over by charging them extortionate amounts of money for an almost untaxed soft drink, so again the whole extra tax does not effect pubs a great deal in my opinion.
3. We now live in the year 2008, yet landlords still continue to fit out their pubs to look like they were built in the victorian times, for the best part this "was" a good idea, but I think people (especially younger people 20's and 30's) are not feeling they are being catered for, this has also added to an increase in people going to what some consider "trendy" wine bars etc, i'm not saying pubs have to look like wine bars but a bit of discreet modernisation can go a long way.
I'm sorry if you are a pub landlord or know someone that owns a pub and are offended by this, but it is time the public house trade stopped blaming the government and the people for their demise and started looking in the mirror and what the true cause is.
Please discuss
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