I really wasn't just whining, I'm serious.

WiS is a waste of our hard earned subscription money and I honestly think it should be left alone until the REAL part of EVE is fixed.

Which is a given that was stated in the very first paragraph of this thread. So yes you are whining, take your 'Waaaaaaaaaaaa I hates WiS' whinging somewhere else. This is a thread for people who want to create a WiS environment worth having.

Your argument is self defeating...

It's not possible to have a WiS environment "worth having" in a space ship-centered game.

WiS is a waste of time that will lose another 20% of the player base just as it did last time it was rolled out. CCP was correct to drop WiS and focus on the EVE game (IMHO).

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa mommmyyyyyyyyyyyy walking in stations is laaaaaaame.


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Not to say too much more on a thread that's becoming more and more trolling, but you should read this before posting anything more on WiS...

EVE Insider


It's been acknowledged that CCP was too distracted from what was most important. This idea you have proposed is a continuation of that distraction.

Again, I don't think WiS should go any further than corporation and alliance rooms.
Past that, there is nothing worth presenting Eve players through WiS apart from building an entirely new MMO specifically for stations

Offcom doesn't give a rat's ass if there's an official way or not. They will come down hard on any institution that allows under age children to gamble with real money or pretend money that can be sold for real money. Just because you're too stupid to realise this, it doesn't make it not so.

It's not possible to have a WiS environment "worth having" in a space ship-centered game.


WiS is a waste of time that will lose another 20% of the player base just as it did last time it was rolled out. CCP was correct to drop WiS and focus on the EVE game (IMHO).

Erm, you're wrong.

In other news, OP wins angry poaster of the year award.

If your only focus about this space-ship centering is shooting, then yes, for you it might be impossible to include WiS. Good thing then for you that it is optional.

But this space-ship centered game is not just about shooting. And for actions not related to shooting having it corelate with WiS is a high possibility.

For instance they could add a player interaction on build orders to maximise effiency, thus speeding up the build process. Or maybe only have an ability to wiev the stuff you make as it is being made.

The social bit in this is endless though the enviroments might be limited in scope. but again the possibilities are big. I particulary like the infected area idea posted earlier on this thread. That would be interresting. Making WiS also a bit like a cold war prospect seems interresting aswell. Taking spying and player movement tracking to a new level

But again, if your wiev on EVE is shoot ship. Then I can understand your dislike for WiS.

Mini game that puts you on a 1V1 battlefield but you dont have to pay for the ship or even 3v3... but generic fittings... be like a little SiSi and attach Honor points. Since "Blobbing", "Ganking", and "Pirating" are dishonorable, but now the only way of life in actual interweb spaceships.. Being equal numbers its now honorable fighting... Make it 2 - 4 seperate teams that anyone can randomly join. Maybe have mini limited solar systems like Chinese checkers but 7-12 gates with a Beacon or 3 for possible fleet battles.

Just tossing the Idea out there and yes I know its similar to a couple other games out there but seems like it would add FUN to the game without risk for 15-20 min at a time. I'm not going to argue points and balancing issues, just wanted to toss the idea out for a potential in station mini game.

Here's my thought...

Myst in space,

Have the station environment filled with awesome graphics and places that you can get lost in exploring. Puzzle like features that once you figure out where to go and how to get there you get access to an agent in some room somewhere that's going to be able to give you a one of kind mission that has some badass rewards.

Have easter egg type objects that when located and accumulated in the right combinations can lead you to a specific location in the eve universe where you will find some random spawn that is yours.

Or a certificate that could be traded in a LP store for something equally cool.

In some other hidden and hard to find spot maybe there is a book that tells you about a certain NPC in another system you can kill and get his stuff (rewards)...

Perhaps a series of 'missions' that take place entirely inside stations... you find or acquire the objective at one station and find out it leads to a station in a different system that will lead you still further down the road to discovering something really cool.

All along the lines of exploration... but really Myst in space for those that may be old enough to remember that game.

Spy

Just having corporation and alliance rooms is as pointless as CQ and you posting on this thread. If you're not intested in WiS just HTFU.

Actually, corp and alliance rooms would serve a purpose as long as Dust is around. Their purpose would be for strategic use, and/or rally/congregation point.

Oh, and you may wanna wash that sand outta there, cause you're getting really cranky.

Two things about that. First Dust will take place on planets and not station. Second it's not for PC or EvE players, so it would be pretty pointless to have a rally point in a different game, that no one who needs it can use.

What do you mean by strategic use? How is walking around a room going to have any strategic use at all?

OK, you misunderstood what I was saying.

it would be of use for eve players to coordinate with each other and dust players.

We'll say that it could be a meeting room to which an Officer could plot out maps of a system for eve players, then feed a map plot and strategy plan to dust players. This way everyone knows what they're looking for in dust, and Eve players know before hand who their primary targets are...etc. etc. through a projector and laser pointer type situation, and the officers and feed the same type package to dust commanders to give their soldiers.

Consider it a briefing room like what the military uses. The air force and the army aren't all in that room. The air force is giving their brief in one room, and the army is giving their brief in another room, but the two briefings coordinate the attack with each other.

Erm, no I'm not.

Those ISK gambling sites don't get away with it because they're "undetected", they get away with it because whilst you can legally convert money to ISK you cannot legally convert ISK to money.

There would be no real legal opposition to the introduction of "equal chance games" like poker, since they are essentially player versus player and played using a currency that can only be converted one way.

Ofcom might not be best pleased if they introduced and heavily advertised non "equal chance" games, and heavily skewed them in favor of the house, but even then there wouldn't be much they could do about it.

OK, you misunderstood what I was saying.

it would be of use for eve players to coordinate with each other and dust players.

We'll say that it could be a meeting room to which an Officer could plot out maps of a system for eve players, then feed a map plot and strategy plan to dust players. This way everyone knows what they're looking for in dust, and Eve players know before hand who their primary targets are...etc. etc. through a projector and laser pointer type situation, and the officers and feed the same type package to dust commanders to give their soldiers.

Consider it a briefing room like what the military uses. The air force and the army aren't all in that room. The air force is giving their brief in one room, and the army is giving their brief in another room, but the two briefings coordinate the attack with each other.

Now we're talking.

I like the idea of a 'War room', but why limit it to just dust. It could be a central information gathering center. I can imagine a large room with an huge interactive holomap in the middle, which can be reconfigured to coordinate everything from Dust, to Station Politics, Sov Space War, to member's whereabouts to enemy whereabouts.