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Nigel Sheldon
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Posted - 2008.07.02 16:44:00 -
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Motoring show Top Gear has been criticised by the BBC Trust after viewers complained about "highly irresponsible" footage.
The Polar Special featured hosts Jeremy Clarkson and James May drinking while driving as they tried to reach the Magnetic North Pole last year.
The trust said the scene "could be seen to glamorise the misuse of alcohol".
The show's executive producer said they were beyond the jurisdiction of drink driving laws in international waters.
The trust was also told that neither presenter was shown "drunk or out of control of the vehicle".
The BBC Trust said the scene "was not editorially justified in the context of a family show pre-watershed".
However, it added that at present in the UK, "it is legal to drink a small amount of alcohol and still drive". In the same show complaints were also made about scenes showing frostbitten genitalia.
The trust said there was "a clear editorial purpose for the inclusion of an image of a frostbitten *****, which had been shown for "a medical rather than a sexual purpose".
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.07.02 17:08:00 -
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Wow, and I thought the FCC was a pain in the ass. Some people just need to grow up.
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Giles Durane
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Posted - 2008.07.06 13:51:00 -
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Its fiiiine! What they were doing was legal...
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2008.07.06 15:05:00 -
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Clearly the BBC Trust needs to get their head out of their own ass.
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Losmandy
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.07.06 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Losmandy on 06/07/2008 15:15:29
Edited by: Losmandy on 06/07/2008 15:11:21
Jeremy Clarkson is a big kid who never grew up, just like me.
Some times he is brilliantly funny, but can also be a complete tw*t, just like me.
On a side note drinking while driving is illegal in the UK as is talking on a cellphone, but you can yak on Cb radio driving a 38 ton truck.. Funny ole world init.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:27:00 -
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Top Gear Rules.
BBC Trust are a sack of arses.
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Princess Kyky
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:30:00 -
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now fear of splitting up cos hamster and may want pay rises, clarkson is getting a split of the profits when other contries get there own version of the show, greedy bastards tbh no matter how good the show is :D:D:D:DD:D:D:D
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:35:00 -
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"Hey, lets go to the park and play some hoops!"
"cant, Health and Safety says we have to wear this full-body padding suit before playing"
I swear to god, its these soccer moms who "would protect the kids" who will turn this world into a totalitarian state.
I mean, for crying out loud, have you soccer moms nothing else better to do other than whine at the government for letting them do their jobs and forcing them to spend more on needless legislature?!
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Verone
Top Gear Rules.
BBC Trust are a sack of arses.
This is why I love my CEO <3
Seriously though, who cares about the BBC. Top Gear should go Dave all-out. It's the best channel in the world.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Kyky
now fear of splitting up cos hamster and may want pay rises, clarkson is getting a split of the profits when other contries get there own version of the show, greedy bastards tbh no matter how good the show is :D:D:D:DD:D:D:D
Well, Clarkson deserves his cut, afterall, it was his drive and energy that got TG back on the tele after it was cancelled. May and Hammond are due their money for the job they do. Both are highly paid for their contributions. Hammond was reportidly on 1mil a year and May 750k. Not bad wages for an ex local radio disc-jokey and journalist.
When TG won a EMMY for Best Unscripted Show, Clarkson said he couldnt go to collect it as he was busy writing the scripts for the new series .
The sad and strange thing is, the 2 countries that have signed up to make their own versions are America and Australia. Sad because I just dont think that America can get a show like this off the ground because you need 3 blokes with a disregard for Political Correctness who take the **** out of of everyone and everything. Clarkson et all have upset the Greens, Gays, Liberals, Conservatives, Lefties, Religious Right, Americans, Europeans, Russians, Africans and anyone else they can laugh at. That is not to say they are racist or anything, they just see everybody as fair game in the making of, essentially, a lads show. The only people they dont laugh at are the armed forces, especially the RAF.
If you make a show that compromises on these features you lose the very essence of the show and its meaning. I always hope that there will be another series as its a show that all of my family enjoy sitting down with to watch together. My 2 eldest (11 and 9) get all the jokes and my 3yr old just loves all the stunts, challenges and mayhem.
More power to Clarkson, May and Hammond and may their paychecks bulge to an embarressing degree!
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Seriously though, who cares about the BBC. Top Gear should go Dave all-out. It's the best channel in the world.
Dave is Co-Owned and was formed by BBC Worldwide and Virgin Media 
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Losmandy
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:30:00 -
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Lewis Hamilton is STIG
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Xorxarle
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:38:00 -
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Nah. The Stig has more personality.
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/07/2008 17:52:29
Originally by: Nigel Sheldon
Motoring show Top Gear has been criticised by the BBC Trust after viewers complained about "highly irresponsible" footage.
The Polar Special featured hosts Jeremy Clarkson and James May drinking while driving as they tried to reach the Magnetic North Pole last year.
The trust said the scene "could be seen to glamorise the misuse of alcohol".
The show's executive producer said they were beyond the jurisdiction of drink driving laws in international waters.
The trust was also told that neither presenter was shown "drunk or out of control of the vehicle".
The BBC Trust said the scene "was not editorially justified in the context of a family show pre-watershed".
However, it added that at present in the UK, "it is legal to drink a small amount of alcohol and still drive". In the same show complaints were also made about scenes showing frostbitten genitalia.
The trust said there was "a clear editorial purpose for the inclusion of an image of a frostbitten *****, which had been shown for "a medical rather than a sexual purpose".
I seriously hate those people who seem to only watch TV to make complaints. It's like ambulance chasing lawyers, the kinda people with 12 cats who doesn't let them out to crap.
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The TX
Gallente
Earth Inc.
Zeta Tau Epsilon
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Posted - 2008.07.06 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Losmandy
[illegal in the UK] talking on a cellphone, but you can yak on Cb radio driving a 38 ton truck..Funny ole world init.
As a professional driver myself, I would expect that the truck drivers and their CB radios are sensible enough not to lose their attention of the road whilst using them. However, the general public has to be seen as being stupid - there will always been a percentage of flipping idiots amongst 'the general public', and therefore, the public can't be trusted on the whole to do anything right - just because of the few that are idiots. And it's not always the same idiots, different types of people are idiots at different things. A professional driver, you would hope, is not an idiot at driving, whereas non-professional drivers, ie, the general public out in their cars CAN be idiots. It's easier to put an outright ban on everyone from using phones whilst driving that to try to distinguish who are the idiots who shouldn't be allowed them and who are the clever people who can use them. A CB radio or any other device that allows you to communicate with someone who is not in the vehicle with you can still divert your attention from the road. My guess is that the 38 ton truck drivers are sensible enough to be able to use a CB radio without being distracted, and that is why CB radios are legal.
I can't remember where I heard this, it might have been at Uni, but I remember being fascinated by it...
When you are on the phone talking to someone, where does your mind take you? Where do you 'imagine' yourself as being? Do you see yourself as being in your house talking to your friend, or in your friend's house? Apparently, most of the time, you're actually in a psychological no-man's land with your friend having a conversation. Your mind takes you out of your house to a no-where where you talk to your friend, who has also left his house and come to no-where. This is why it distracts your attention from what's going on around you, because your mind is no longer where you are. Sort of.
Personally, I find the harder I listen, the further into no-where I go, and I really really really phase out of the real world. Driving buses we have radios to communicate with the depot, and if there's a long message being read out (probably something like: "Group call to all service 5, 5A and 5B, we're looking for some lost property, it's a green back with.....") I too have to focus really hard on my driving and make the message a secondary concern otherwise I too would start to phase-out of reality in my mind.
I LOATH anyone who uses a mobile phone whilst driving - especially if there's someone else in the car with them that could either DRIVE or TAKE THE BLOODY CALL themselves. Also, when a loan parent in a car uses the phone and their kids are in the car with them completely innocent and defenceless against the danger AND watching their mum or dad on the phone and leaving that imprint on them that it is ok to do it (kids copy their parents!).
I'm wondering if it's possible to accidentally on purpose to hit another vehicle if the driver is on the phone and then they get done because they were on the phone regardless of what actually happened.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 20:54:00 -
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They were in international waters, thus what they were doing was legal. Why so puritanical?
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.06 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/07/2008 22:39:12
Originally by: The TX
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What annoys me is the sign about mobile phones around petrol stations. I don't think there has ever been one incident where a phone has caused a spark to ignite fumes, yet there are I think a few about static charges from nylon clothing!
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.07.07 02:05:00 -
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What annoys me is that driving while talking on the phone might become illegal. Then when I need to call someone asap while driving I won't be able to. Then again/
Originally by: Crumplecorn
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2008.07.07 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
What annoys me is that driving while talking on the phone might become illegal. Then when I need to call someone asap while driving I won't be able to. Then again/
Tbh the amount of people I've seen talking on the phone in the UK driving recklessly and either narrowly missing having an accident or causing one by ramming into the back of me is staggering. One change to motoring law I can happily live with.
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Posted - 2008.07.07 13:27:00 -
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I don't even like cars but top gear is simply great entertainment 
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The TX
Gallente
Earth Inc.
Zeta Tau Epsilon
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/07/2008 22:39:12
Originally by: The TX
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What annoys me is the sign about mobile phones around petrol stations. I don't think there has ever been one incident where a phone has caused a spark to ignite fumes, yet there are I think a few about static charges from nylon clothing!
Ever watch Brainiac? They filled a caravan with petrol and a shite load of mobile phones, and rang them all. **** all happened.
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Irida Mershkov
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Posted - 2008.07.07 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: The TX
Originally by: Xen Gin
Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/07/2008 22:39:12
Originally by: The TX
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What annoys me is the sign about mobile phones around petrol stations. I don't think there has ever been one incident where a phone has caused a spark to ignite fumes, yet there are I think a few about static charges from nylon clothing!
Ever watch Brainiac? They filled a caravan with petrol and a shite load of mobile phones, and rang them all. **** all happened.
Brainiac is bloody awesome. I miss that show, is it still on? *Doesn't have Sky anymore.*
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.07 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: The TX
Originally by: Xen Gin
Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/07/2008 22:39:12
Originally by: The TX
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What annoys me is the sign about mobile phones around petrol stations. I don't think there has ever been one incident where a phone has caused a spark to ignite fumes, yet there are I think a few about static charges from nylon clothing!
Ever watch Brainiac? They filled a caravan with petrol and a shite load of mobile phones, and rang them all. **** all happened.
Brainiac is bloody awesome. I miss that show, is it still on? *Doesn't have Sky anymore.*
Yep, I liked that one.
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.08 02:01:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 08/07/2008 02:01:26
Originally by: annoing
The only people they dont laugh at are the armed forces, especially the RAF.
because they know when to take the **** out of morons who either deserve it or who they know won't be able to figure out that it's just a joke, and when to give people the massive amount of respect that they honestly do deserve.
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Micheal Dietrich
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Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.08 03:04:00 -
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Theres a simple solution to cell phone use and cars, it's called a brake. Pull over, talk, move on.
As for the difference between cb's and cell phones well:
1. You don't see truck drivers cocking their heads to one side to talk (not everybody has a blue tooth)
2. You don't see them staring intently at their mic trying to find their buddy in the contacts list
3. You certainly don't see them texting.
4. The mic sits nicely on a hook generally by the steering wheel in the drivers view. Cell phone users throw their phones on the passenger seat, center console, or glovebox where they have to take their eyes off the road. Or the phone may be in a pant pocket where they squirm around trying to grab it.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 05:40:00 -
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Top gear is the sole reason for turning on my TV nowadays.
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.08 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Theres a simple solution to cell phone use and cars, it's called a brake. Pull over, talk, move on.
As for the difference between cb's and cell phones well:
1. You don't see truck drivers cocking their heads to one side to talk (not everybody has a blue tooth)
2. You don't see them staring intently at their mic trying to find their buddy in the contacts list
3. You certainly don't see them texting.
4. The mic sits nicely on a hook generally by the steering wheel in the drivers view. Cell phone users throw their phones on the passenger seat, center console, or glovebox where they have to take their eyes off the road. Or the phone may be in a pant pocket where they squirm around trying to grab it.
I don't think CBs require you to either have a conversation about what your having for dinner tonight, or anything that can be as distracting as a member of the public talking to family/friends/co-workers.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 08/07/2008 13:23:03
Originally by: The TX
Ever watch Brainiac? They filled a caravan with petrol and a shite load of mobile phones, and rang them all. **** all happened.
How did they "fill" it? Because if its literally full of petrol, it can't really ignite.
if it was filled with petrol *fumes* things might go different, tho i doubt you get any noticeable spark from a cellphone in normal operation.
now if a car crashed and mangled up a cellphone enough, so the battery can short circuit, you have enough energy to light that stuff up. you can trust me on this, i abused cellphone batteries and thin wires to light up cigarettes before, in match- and lighterless hours of desperation.
(stove works too, but tends to give you a skin peeling)
admittedly i have no clue how much energy you exactly need to ignite petrol/diesel these days, but in the end its possible, because you can ignite other stuff first with that battery.
also i have no clue why im even typing this. i dont think cellphones should be banned while driving because of this, but because it steals the drivers attention. you know, stupid drivers are everywhere, and i dont have the slightest problem with it, that's just how people are. some are big, some are small, some are smart and some of them are just too dumb to take a shit.
but when i see somebody that did some dumb and possibly dangerous stuff because they were talking on their friggin phone, i get angry. because that could easily be avoided.
about the top gear thing: somebody needs to get their head out of their arses. wtf had that episode to do with the dangers of drunk driving. they were on the friggin north pole!
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.08 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 08/07/2008 13:38:36
Edited by: Xen Gin on 08/07/2008 13:36:21
Originally by: P'uck
Edited by: P''uck on 08/07/2008 13:23:03
Originally by: The TX
Ever watch Brainiac? They filled a caravan with petrol and a shite load of mobile phones, and rang them all. **** all happened.
How did they "fill" it? Because if its literally full of petrol, it can't really ignite.
if it was filled with petrol *fumes* things might go different, tho i doubt you get any noticeable spark from a cellphone in normal operation.
now if a car crashed and mangled up a cellphone enough, so the battery can short circuit, you have enough energy to light that stuff up. you can trust me on this, i abused cellphone batteries and thin wires to light up cigarettes before, in match- and lighterless hours of desperation.
(stove works too, but tends to give you a skin peeling)
admittedly i have no clue how much energy you exactly need to ignite petrol/diesel these days, but in the end its possible, because you can ignite other stuff first with that battery.
also i have no clue why im even typing this. i dont think cellphones should be banned while driving because of this, but because it steals the drivers attention. you know, stupid drivers are everywhere, and i dont have the slightest problem with it, that's just how people are. some are big, some are small, some are smart and some of them are just too dumb to take a shit.
but when i see somebody that did some dumb and possibly dangerous stuff because they were talking on their friggin phone, i get angry. because that could easily be avoided.
about the top gear thing: somebody needs to get their head out of their arses. wtf had that episode to do with the dangers of drunk driving. they were on the friggin north pole!
It wasn't filled but had amounts in there that allowed fumes to fill the rest of it, but the phones were placed about.
Watch here!
Oh it had something to do with filling up at petrol stations, not driving.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2008.07.08 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Barker
Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 08/07/2008 02:01:26
Originally by: annoing
The only people they dont laugh at are the armed forces, especially the RAF.
because they know when to take the **** out of morons who either deserve it or who they know won't be able to figure out that it's just a joke, and when to give people the massive amount of respect that they honestly do deserve.
They have to. IIRC, the RAF were in a whole lot of their "stunty" races like that one with a black Lotus Exige and a RAF Apache (goal is for the Apache to get missile lock whilst staying within the confines of the Top Gear Test Track), a race of that Bugatti Veyron on a 1mile stretch of runway VS a vertical 1mile climb of a Eurofighter Typhoon. Both were epic, if I may say so myself.
Also, British Army were involved in a couple as well, like that team of british scout snipers helping Clarkson test two convertibles (think it was a Merc SLK or somesuch vs a Porsche) by having them shoot at him with him using a lazer-tag-like vest and him in either one of the cars trying to evade being shot-tagged, and also that Range Rover Sport vs Challenger II tank. Again, epic.
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