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M1k3y Koontz
Taxes Suck Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:39:00 -
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Cloaky or nothing.
The only real way to be gank proof is to never be scanned for the gank in the first place =) How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Koda Myr'koff
Lollipops for Rancors
2
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Posted - 2012.03.16 01:34:00 -
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Viator pilot checking in! Mine is identical to Selw kotsidakia's except I have more agility stuff instead of the cargo mods. Haven't been caught yet. |
Gypsy Fang
Black Dragon Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.05.28 09:57:00 -
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Selw kotsidakia wrote:Wont say something new but here are my advices for you: a) High sec: Your first bet is a viator(or any blockade runner) with cov ops cloak. Fit meta 4 inertia modfiers on lows if you dont need the expanded cargohold. Your second bet is an orca which can carry 40k in corp hangars. Thats unscannable and doesnt drop if she dies. The fit Keras gave(with 100mn mwd) is the best for trasports as it cuts the align time to 10 seconds from 50 seconds(warp, hit mwd and close it, when mwd goes off you enter warp) For both cases you need insta undock bookmark for the station you use a lot as well as an insta dock one. Both reduces the time you spend near a station near to zero. b)Low sec: Jump freighter is the safest(almost zero risk) hands down. If you want something cheaper for low volume you can go with viator or ceptor.
[Viator, Danger zone] Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I Expanded Cargohold II
ECM Burst II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Invulnerability Field II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Has 5400 cargo, enouph for 2 frigates/1 cruiser packaged. You can change the expanded cargohold and the rig to something else if you dont want the space. ECM burst just in case. Tank isnt needed because agility is your best friend, thought an invu never hurts. Align time is at 3.7 seconds without mwd. Ty, new to game, most helpful post on this topic thus far ^^ |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2012.05.28 10:05:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Is such a ship and/or fitting possible? I'm not really experienced with PVP or ganking so am in dire need of directions as to what ship and fittings I should train for. My PVE alt can fly Gallente battleships. Should I go for tanking ability or stealth? etc etc etc. Any thoughts appreciated. :)
1st -crane or viator
2nd-invest in some decent tank
3rd- instant undock BM's
4th -never AFK !!!
Cloacky haulers are simply impossible to catch in high sec unless you start by afk, low skills, bad tank, bad fit yadayada
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Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Exhale.
275
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Posted - 2012.05.28 10:08:00 -
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Just fit out a 100k ehp battle cruiser and you'll be fine |
Felin Holtz
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2012.05.28 10:47:00 -
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I use an I-stabbed raptor to shift low volume high value items.
If you need to carry more than 5 or 6 modules at a time though probably an ultra-tanked battleship? |
4IN1
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.28 11:29:00 -
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During my life in lo-sec doing PI simply tells me that nothing better then having a cloaky blockade runner and .....well ......a brain, even with a Badger I can still out run 90% of ganking (with some hairy moment) with an instant warp fit, in fact I am doing so good at it I only ever lost one Badger.
CCP: Ambition but rubbish
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Kharylien
Masked Rider Project
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Posted - 2012.05.28 12:37:00 -
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If when you say Empire space you're talking purely highsec, as in 0.5 and above Concord-protected, I personally have never had a problem flying stuff in a tanked-out Dominix. But I've never moved more than about a billion isk's worth of stuff at a time.
However, it would take an awfully hefty gank camp to beat down a Domi before Concord gets involved. When you're only needing to run it in short bursts, you can easily get a massive EHP with everything-resists and still be dual-rep-capable. I'm pretty sure it's within a decent shout of being unkillable inside Concord response time, unless you have a large, well-organised group who hate you and also know exactly when you're going to be shifting your precious shinies, at which point: mate, you have problems that will not be resolved by ship selection alone.
If you're including lowsec, I agree with the people recommending cloakiness. |
Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
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Posted - 2012.05.28 13:26:00 -
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Freigthers, can take a beat and can move small stuff. Other than that, it requires skills. |
Crellion
Parental Control
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Posted - 2012.05.28 14:39:00 -
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Kharylien wrote:If when you say Empire space you're talking purely highsec, as in 0.5 and above Concord-protected, I personally have never had a problem flying stuff in a tanked-out Dominix. But I've never moved more than about a billion isk's worth of stuff at a time.
However, it would take an awfully hefty gank camp to beat down a Domi before Concord gets involved. When you're only needing to run it in short bursts, you can easily get a massive EHP with everything-resists and still be dual-rep-capable. I'm pretty sure it's within a decent shout of being unkillable inside Concord response time, unless you have a large, well-organised group who hate you and also know exactly when you're going to be shifting your precious shinies, at which point: mate, you have problems that will not be resolved by ship selection alone.
If you're including lowsec, I agree with the people recommending cloakiness.
you have to rethink your strategy even if you think its working right now... |
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Skorpynekomimi
204
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Posted - 2012.05.28 15:08:00 -
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Speed, tank, or cloak. Pick one.
Alternatively, use Red Frog. Costs more, yes, but you're insured against ganks, and YOU aren't at risk of being ganked for your cargo. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
106
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Posted - 2012.05.28 16:41:00 -
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Red Frog is the best option. 100mn MWD Orca is second best. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.05.29 08:38:00 -
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Damnation with a Legion for Boosts.
852k EHP with Slaves, and if someone wants to shoot 4 freighters worth of EHP, they'll shoot 4 freighters instead of trying to get ~100 people in the same place shooting the same target.
[Damnation, HS Transport]
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10MN MicroWarpdrive II [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
Improved Cloaking Device II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
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Bibosikus
Universal Moose Federation Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:49:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Damnation with a Legion for Boosts.
852k EHP with Slaves, and if someone wants to shoot 4 freighters worth of EHP, they'll shoot 4 freighters instead of trying to get ~100 people in the same place shooting the same target.
+1 The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.05.29 16:20:00 -
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Or just insta warp in a shuttle... |
Cutout Man
Archimedean Point
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Posted - 2012.05.29 17:17:00 -
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Its silly to train for 3 months to fly an Orca that costs 750mil to move small, high value items. Unless, maybe, it exceeds the volume of the available options. In hisec, the only goal is to not get locked. Thats it. No target lock, no scan, no die. Cloaky haulers and covops are always a good choice, but the MWD/Cloak trick works in hisec even better than it does losec (no one moves to kill you immediately). A cargo fitted industrial shuold handle most of the bigger stuff with mwd/cloak.
Again, very simple, your only goal is to not get target locked. |
Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.29 22:11:00 -
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Small agile combat ships also tend to work simply because they're less likely to be scanned (don't stick around long and aren't particularly interesting). If you don't have the skills to fly an orca or transport ship they tend to work pretty well. I've also had my alts move 500m+ in a shuttle before. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.05.29 22:51:00 -
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[Legion, Hauler]
Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN Afterburner II [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Slave Alpha Slave Beta Slave Gamma Slave Delta Slave Epsilon Slave Omega Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1005
it will take around 35 tornados to kill you, assuming you **** up the cloaking and for some reason dont heat your ab and sig tank them.
Edit: Im bad, the damnation is better for this |
Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.05.30 05:00:00 -
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Blockade runner has cloak and aligns like a frig if you fit it right
[Viator, lolnope] Expanded Cargohold II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Small Shield Extender II Small Shield Extender II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I
It also can pseudo-akf haul if you hit the MWD then cloak on approach I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |
Goran Konjich
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.30 07:42:00 -
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what is instant undock bookmark ? what is pseudo-akf ? what is instawarp ? why hit MWD then cloak on approach ?
thx! "a diplomat with 425mm briefcase II" |
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1654
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Posted - 2012.05.30 07:53:00 -
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Goran Konjich wrote:what is instant undock bookmark ? what is pseudo-akf ? what is instawarp ? why hit MWD then cloak on approach ?
thx!
Google is your Friend. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
115
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Posted - 2012.05.30 07:59:00 -
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Low volume, high value you say? Why not use a Cov-ops Frigate such as the Cheetah? Seems ideal to me. Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
Goran Konjich
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.30 08:32:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Google is your Friend.
thx for saving my time you freak with white shirt
"a diplomat with 425mm briefcase II" |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1654
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Posted - 2012.05.30 08:45:00 -
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Goran Konjich wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Google is your Friend. thx for saving my time you freak with white shirt
You are so very welcome. I do try to help. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Nakkano
Internet Space Pimps
0
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:05:00 -
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Lol at anyone flying in an industrial or small ship. Get serious for real. I would never carry around anything valuable in a paper tank.
Use a T3. You cannot fck with the EHP of a legion or proteus. We are talking 250-350K Ehp without slaves. And it can cloak.
If you can't afford that, use a a shield buffer plus hull tanked battleship. Oh, that sounds stupid? Try it in EFT. It's at least 200K ehp. This Rokh below checks out at 225k ehp.
[Rokh, F*** You, That's Why] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1657
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:23:00 -
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Nakkano wrote:Lol at anyone flying in an industrial or small ship. Get serious for real. I would never carry around anything valuable in a paper tank.
Use a T3. You cannot fck with the EHP of a legion or proteus. We are talking 250-350K Ehp without slaves. And it can cloak.
If you can't afford that, use a a shield buffer plus hull tanked battleship. Oh, that sounds stupid? Try it in EFT. It's at least 200K ehp. This Rokh below checks out at 225k ehp.
Armor's better cause you'll forget to turn on the active hardeners the one gate you get a gank attempt. Also, you need a mid for your MWD.
230k EHP plain, 560k with a legion, Slaves, and Navy Enams.
[Abaddon, HS Hauling]
Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
100MN MicroWarpdrive II [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
Improved Cloaking Device II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.05.30 14:10:00 -
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Covert-ops blockade runner with below 4 sec align time, should save you from almost anything.
leaves you only vunrable when undocking.
which is best solved with.
1) dock up again if you think you're threatned (first 30 seconds you're invunrable if you do nothing after undocking after 10 seconds you can dock again)
2) make safe point in a straight line from undocking, undock use you 30 seconds to let the ship reach max speed and warp to safe point. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2012.05.30 18:41:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Dodona wrote:Kolya Medz wrote:How low volume? If your moving stuff that hardly takes space, like implants and BPs, use a ceptor. You'll warp before they can even scan you. If you moving a larger amount of stuff then ya, get an orca, the unscannable bay is great. Never fly valuables in anything that will die to smartbombs. High-sec suicide gankers generally don't use smartbombs.
Thanks for saving me the time. |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:10:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:Covert-ops blockade runner with below 4 sec align time, should save you from almost anything.
leaves you only vunrable when undocking.
which is best solved with.
1) dock up again if you think you're threatned (first 30 seconds you're invunrable if you do nothing after undocking after 10 seconds you can dock again)
2) make safe point in a straight line from undocking, undock use you 30 seconds to let the ship reach max speed and warp to safe point.
ship undocks with max speed, no need to wait for anything. |
Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian THE UNTHINKABLES
85
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Posted - 2012.05.31 04:40:00 -
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Trick is to avoid being ganked in the first place. Just like diseases/injury/poison.
Other than a Blockade Runner, I'd use a Interdiction-Nulliffied Cloaky T3, if you plan on going to bubbleland(Null) Fit the [Racial] Propulsion - Interdiction Nullififer and [Racial] Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration. Lets you fit covops cloak and lets you zoom through bubbles.
Don't forget Warp Core Stabs as well I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |
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