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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:19:00 -
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 Originally by: linton strong
Originally by: linton strong
why must CCP bring down eve daily? Wouldn't it make more sense to just have downtime 1x per week like most MMORPGs do.
I agree with the op
I hope so.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:20:00 -
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Huh? There are other MMORPG's available .. why am I always the last to hear these things .. DAMMIT!!!
Daily downtimes take between 30-60 minutes, seven days a week. How long are the weekly downtimes for these 'other MMORPG's again? (When I played WoW some 3 years ago the downtime was usually about a whole damn day!)
No other game on or off the market has 40k players on ONE server at peak. WoW servers can handle 1/10th of this number and has a kindergarten market/item system to boot (much less database work required).
Eve probably could work with a weekly downtime, but it would be insanely long and game would be slow/laggy the longer into a cycle you go.
I am fairly certain that you would find the total uptime and general server performance of the Eve cluster to be superior to the others, thanks largely to the daily tweaking and cleansing of the database/server.
PS: Get hooked on Civilization 4, makes for a great downtime game!
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:20:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Lord Haur
Originally by: Slayton Ford
Like what other MMOs? When I played Everquest (and still do on occasion) they have a downtime only when patches/fixes are required (once a month or two).
Note: many other MMO's have many many servers, with their downtimes spread out so there is nearly always a server you can use. Also Tranquility is like 50x the size of those servers (ok, slight exaggeration  )
I think 8x would be about right for the average MMO server.
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Sinc
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:23:00 -
[34]
1 dt a week will only make the marco haulers/ratters/miners have less work to keep em running .. so better with more dt's :)
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Quetl
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:26:00 -
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Id imagine there is alot alot more coding in EVE compared to other MMO's. Alot of other MMO's have a relatively small world, which is replicated. Perhaps meaning more opportunity for there to be issues with the coding, which they will need to fix on a regular basis, and there is alot of daily respawns etc as said before.
If you are so much an Eve-Addict, call downtime, Forum time. I'm lucky in UK, if i happen to be in when DT is there, it reminds me that I prolly should eat... (Being about lunch time)
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Rick Rothsar
Ghosts of Ragnarok
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:47:00 -
[36]
Originally by: linton strong
Originally by: linton strong
why must CCP bring down eve daily? Wouldn't it make more sense to just have downtime 1x per week like most MMORPGs do.
I agree with the op
quotin dis
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.07.03 16:17:00 -
[37]
Huh... =V= has down times?
Never noticed really.
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.07.03 16:17:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Bleeshtar
Huh... =V= has down times?
Never noticed really.
Me either. 
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Ultin Harvor
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Posted - 2008.07.03 18:37:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Bleeshtar
Originally by: Bleeshtar
Huh... =V= has down times?
Never noticed really.
Me either.
You win the thread, the only thing on here to make me laugh.
Have a beer!
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.07.03 18:58:00 -
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1. The lag would be so immense that, by the end of the week, nobody would be able to do anything anywhere PERIOD.
2. There's different features that rely on downtime to reset.
Originally by: Amoxin
My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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AltyNr1
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Posted - 2008.07.03 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: AltyNr1 on 03/07/2008 19:10:21
well they are all flaming and such but really if downtime was changed to weekly they would all wet their pants about it like 12-year olds who touched her first women.
that being said the bottomline is still true: eve != any other mmo and the game makes up for it by giving you a much more in depth experience. other servers have 5-10k max people playing on it i can imagine they just need less maintenance.
edit: still what i love most about it is how they all know the exact inner workings of ccp servers. ofc. pretending you'd know shit about what causes lag and whatnot when you apparently don't have any authority on the subject is fail.
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Borg9
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Posted - 2008.07.03 19:23:00 -
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b/c I'm at work during d/t so it doesn't bother me. Daily d/t are fine, stop whining, CCP gives you FREE expansions/patches.
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Zephyr Rengate
ShockTroopers
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Posted - 2008.07.03 19:25:00 -
[43]
Originally by: linton strong
Originally by: linton strong
why must CCP bring down eve daily? Wouldn't it make more sense to just have downtime 1x per week like most MMORPGs do.
I agree with the op
FAIL.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I will not liek human meat but the naerest I tried is human chesse. I don't want to tried again ...
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Tysheara
Running with Cheese
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Posted - 2008.07.03 19:47:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Borg9
b/c I'm at work during d/t so it doesn't bother me. Daily d/t are fine, stop whining, CCP gives you FREE expansions/patches.
Agree. Beside Eve is ran on a TRS80 with cassette tape drive they need to power cycle it once a day, the poor thing cant handle being left on for more then 24 hours.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:17:00 -
[45]
if EVE's downtime bothers you, move to California. It happens at 4 in the morning there, you'll never notice :)
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:42:00 -
[46]
But isn't it "Industry standard" to only have 1 downtime a week? If you want to follow in the footsteps of Blizzard by only offering 60 day GTC's, and an increased price, why not go all the way and follow the "Industry standard" of having 1 downtime per week?
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:45:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ultin Harvor
Originally by: Bleeshtar
Originally by: Bleeshtar
Huh... =V= has down times?
Never noticed really.
Me either.
You win the thread, the only thing on here to make me laugh.
Have a beer!
I always thought it was rather decent of CCP to make sure their down times were only ever at the one point in the day when there's no one logged in.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:45:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Feng Schui
But isn't it "Industry standard" to only have 1 downtime a week? If you want to follow in the footsteps of Blizzard by only offering 60 day GTC's, and an increased price, why not go all the way and follow the "Industry standard" of having 1 downtime per week?
Yeah, because that's so completely similar. Wait. It's not.
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Ruhige Schmerz
E.M.P. Industries
Malum Exuro
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:50:00 -
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I'd put money on it being because some of the serverside processes either require daily maintenence that would cause MORE lag (database cleanup/compaction, etc) and/or because some of the serverside processes are leaking memory and need to be restarted before they start swapping out.
It's not as if they just turn it off for no reason for an hour, if it would continue to run just fine without being shut taken down..
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:54:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Ruhige Schmerz
It's not as if they just turn it off for no reason for an hour, if it would continue to run just fine without being shut taken down..
Actually, if you're running an IT services, there are good and valid reasons to do exactly that - a scheduled change/maintenance window, every day, where it's 'expected' that people will get off your cluster so you can do housekeeping, upgrades, fixes, backups etc. So even if you _don't_ have a need to do anything much one day, it's worth taking it down anyway, simply because then you don't get complaints about unscheduled outages.
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Ruhige Schmerz
E.M.P. Industries
Malum Exuro
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:00:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Ruhige Schmerz on 03/07/2008 21:00:12
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Ruhige Schmerz
It's not as if they just turn it off for no reason for an hour, if it would continue to run just fine without being shut taken down..
Actually, if you're running an IT services, there are good and valid reasons to do exactly that - a scheduled change/maintenance window, every day, where it's 'expected' that people will get off your cluster so you can do housekeeping, upgrades, fixes, backups etc. So even if you _don't_ have a need to do anything much one day, it's worth taking it down anyway, simply because then you don't get complaints about unscheduled outages.
I do exactly that (run IT services. Sysadmin for a pretty large networking tools company.) and we have no scheduled maintenence. When we need downtime, we schedule it, and we have failover systems in place to minimize the impact to our customers (no new purchases if the DB is offline is about it).
That's the proper way to do it. Not simply turning off production systems regularly for no reason to force people to get used to it.
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Arvald
Caldari
Aurora Acclivitous
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:17:00 -
[52]
Originally by: linton strong
why must CCP bring down eve daily? Wouldn't it make more sense to just have downtime 1x per week like most MMORPGs do.
because jesus hates you and you make god cry
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw
Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you are paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face) |
Amastat
Caldari
Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 03/07/2008 21:23:31
Because EVE is running off a super computer, the universe is enormous, and there is 30,000 people on at once - sometimes 40,000. It needs daily maintenance to run properly, it's too huge and complex to work properly with just a weekly maintenance.
In order words - a weekly maintenance sucks too bad and isn't good enough for EVE, and EVE is too all powerful and kickass to settle for the blood sacrifice of a team of maintenance guys just once a week - TRANQUILITY HUNGERS HUMAN/GEEK FLESH!!!!! 
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:26:00 -
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I am no expert ın mmo database stuff but the reason they cant have a downtıme every week ınstea of evryday ıs because they have 10/20/100 tımes the amount of people on the server then mmo x has
that ıs alot more database access every day so they need more tıme to check/wıpe/refresh/clean/update ... whatever the databases..
eve ıs 'onlıne' 161 hours a week out of 168... ıs that not enough ?
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Sartori Tangier
Caldari
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:30:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Vintage Tube servers!
That's why Eve sounds so warm and luscious and has that response top players refuse to do without! 
You get my vote.
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:35:00 -
[56]
Originally by: linton strong
Originally by: linton strong
why must CCP bring down eve daily? Wouldn't it make more sense to just have downtime 1x per week like most MMORPGs do.
I agree with the op
Alt post failure?
Those other MMOs do not have 40,000 concurrent players.
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JanoMark
smoking blunts
Mutual Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:37:00 -
[57]
Originally by: linton strong
why must CCP bring down eve daily? Wouldn't it make more sense to just have downtime 1x per week like most MMORPGs do.
BC this isn't like most MMORPGs.
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Raymon James
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:55:00 -
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Actualy EQ originaly had frequent downtimes, that was eventualy scaled back once they got a handle on things.
that said EVE has certain issues with the database, including a rounding issue that the downtime flushes out.
Just as a comparison of the issues that EVE faces, your characters potential inventory is literaly in the Trillions of items (each station can hold your current ship + 999 stacks or items, or 999 of the 1,000,000m3 cans per station. (999,000,000m3)
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Xonkra
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:59:00 -
[59]
Originally by: linton strong
Originally by: linton strong
why must CCP bring down eve daily? Wouldn't it make more sense to just have downtime 1x per week like most MMORPGs do.
I agree with the op
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.07.03 22:06:00 -
[60]
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Feng Schui
But isn't it "Industry standard" to only have 1 downtime a week? If you want to follow in the footsteps of Blizzard by only offering 60 day GTC's, and an increased price, why not go all the way and follow the "Industry standard" of having 1 downtime per week?
Yeah, because that's so completely similar. Wait. It's not.
its called sarcasm 
Project:Gank
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