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Severe Admin Blind Industries	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:25:00 - [31] prontifex, or THE INTERNET your needed in here guys
n00b alt3 THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:44:00 - [32] Edited by: n00b alt3 on 03/07/2008 19:47:42 Originally by: Princess Jodi Edited by: Princess Jodi on 03/07/2008 19:12:24 Originally by: Ju Vark Originally by: Dominixa I heard that attack was coming soon... Wonder how Razor and friends will respond. Well they have failed to assist their current allies who were attack so I don't think there will be much of a reaction. They will gladly call on the Northern coalition when their space is threatened though. (Anyone notice that?) What you also have to remember is the Northern Coalition are surrounded from each side now. RA on the left, Goons in Center and XDeath and Solar on right. God...so much BS in only one post. Must be a new record. If you're referring to Smash and Roadkill as 'current allies' then you're sadly mistaken. They WOULD have been considered as allies if they helped in the South, but their perfomance was sporatic at best. They were 'friends' for quite some time, but 'current allies' is pushing way too far. As far as 'being surrounded', well I guess you got that right. I guess our mistake was destroying Tri, Insurgency, Destiny and the other enemies we had and taking their space. Now there is nothing nearby that is hostile. Man, without you pointing it out I might have been led to believe that we achieved a great victory. Now that I see that taking another 3-4 regions was actually a trap. Which leads me back to your first point: You seem to be implying that Goons and RA are going to attack the Northern Coalition. While certainly possible, it sure looks like the ones 'surrounded' are Bob, while those opposed to Bob now constitute 3/4 of the 0.0 map. Edit: 'Friends', not 'Fiends'. lol...Freudian Slip? I donno. god forbid we come home to defend our and our allies space. I guess the right thing to do was let everyone just come in and take the place while we fought your war for you full time. Shit, you've been in a nc alliance for a handful of months and are on here talking shit.
n00b alt3 THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:45:00 - [33] Originally by: Severe Admin prontifex, or THE INTERNET your needed in here guys i've arrived and am at your service.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:58:00 - [34] Originally by: Princess Jodi God...so much BS in only one post. Must be a new record. If you're referring to Smash and Roadkill as 'current allies' then you're sadly mistaken. They WOULD have been considered as allies if they helped in the South, but their perfomance was sporatic at best. They were 'friends' for quite some time, but 'current allies' is pushing way too far. As far as 'being surrounded', well I guess you got that right. I guess our mistake was destroying Tri, Insurgency, Destiny and the other enemies we had and taking their space. Now there is nothing nearby that is hostile. Man, without you pointing it out I might have been led to believe that we achieved a great victory. Now that I see that taking another 3-4 regions was actually a trap. Which leads me back to your first point: You seem to be implying that Goons and RA are going to attack the Northern Coalition. While certainly possible, it sure looks like the ones 'surrounded' are Bob, while those opposed to Bob now constitute 3/4 of the 0.0 map. Edit: 'Friends', not 'Fiends'. lol...Freudian Slip? I donno. The NC is now pushed into a corner. Your pilots in Pure and IRON complain of RA's presence in Pure Blind. Solar Guys are postureing to take the whole of the drone regions. With them not being RA or RSF (lolz) they dont have to follow your treaties and naps. Goons have repeatedly stated they wish to shoot hydra,Pure and Mostly Harmless. There is no way militarily that the NC can fend off the eventual attack. You are out classed, out gunned and outnumbered. The moment that you fail to appease or fail to be needed by the RSF, you will be elimintated. The North has always been the weakest link in the Coalition and with no one wanting to contest bob, your allies are going to turn on you. I really dont care though. Just gonna sit back and enjoy the lolz. Or for once you could do something for yourself and go on the offensive first while you still have a chance. We all know thats not gonna happen. Atlas Fleet Admiral Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader Stop banning me please
Dungar Loghoth Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:06:00 - [35] Originally by: dastommy79 Just gonna sit back and enjoy the lolz. Or for once you could do something for yourself and go on the offensive first while you still have a chance. We all know thats not gonna happen. Yep, just sit back in your station and watch it all unfold. ---
n00b alt3 THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:07:00 - [36] Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Princess Jodi God...so much BS in only one post. Must be a new record. If you're referring to Smash and Roadkill as 'current allies' then you're sadly mistaken. They WOULD have been considered as allies if they helped in the South, but their perfomance was sporatic at best. They were 'friends' for quite some time, but 'current allies' is pushing way too far. As far as 'being surrounded', well I guess you got that right. I guess our mistake was destroying Tri, Insurgency, Destiny and the other enemies we had and taking their space. Now there is nothing nearby that is hostile. Man, without you pointing it out I might have been led to believe that we achieved a great victory. Now that I see that taking another 3-4 regions was actually a trap. Which leads me back to your first point: You seem to be implying that Goons and RA are going to attack the Northern Coalition. While certainly possible, it sure looks like the ones 'surrounded' are Bob, while those opposed to Bob now constitute 3/4 of the 0.0 map. Edit: 'Friends', not 'Fiends'. lol...Freudian Slip? I donno. The NC is now pushed into a corner. Your pilots in Pure and IRON complain of RA's presence in Pure Blind. Solar Guys are postureing to take the whole of the drone regions. With them not being RA or RSF (lolz) they dont have to follow your treaties and naps. Goons have repeatedly stated they wish to shoot hydra,Pure and Mostly Harmless. There is no way militarily that the NC can fend off the eventual attack. You are out classed, out gunned and outnumbered. The moment that you fail to appease or fail to be needed by the RSF, you will be elimintated. The North has always been the weakest link in the Coalition and with no one wanting to contest bob, your allies are going to turn on you. I really dont care though. Just gonna sit back and enjoy the lolz. Or for once you could do something for yourself and go on the offensive first while you still have a chance. We all know thats not gonna happen. actually MAD PACT was the weakest link in the coalition (lol), then xdeathx/mactep's crew, then us, then the nc. The later three come last because they were too busy killing eachother to bother most of the time (or in xdeaths case, at all)
n00b alt3 THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:07:00 - [37] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: dastommy79 Just gonna sit back and enjoy the lolz. Or for once you could do something for yourself and go on the offensive first while you still have a chance. We all know thats not gonna happen. Yep, just sit back in your station and watch it all unfold. we don't have stations, cause we are 3\|1+3
Ironnight Caldari x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Dominixa Originally by: Ju Vark Humm, Strange that I don't remember any of that. Ka-Tet failed because it was weak and we were rebuilding. Its just the Russians being the untrustworthy people they are got greedy and wanted the moons. It also sets them up with good staging grounds for attacking Mostly Harmless. I heard that attack was coming soon... Wonder how Razor and friends will respond. Only on the forums, asking why they should care why RA attacks Mostly Harmless. They're like 'oh shit son, its a trap ' Doomsday
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.03 20:58:00 - [39] Princess Jodi: a/s/l ---------------------------------------------- Full circle. Sig nerfed due to is highly offensive content :( :(
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.07.03 21:08:00 - [40] I knew Kublai when he flew a little itty bitty crow. Oh what days those were. Kublai now I'm poor, because I'm legit. Gimme some isk friend! I wish I could say I taught you stuff, but nay I just helped you kill some crap in low-sec belts. Oh well..

Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.03 21:31:00 - [41] Originally by: dastommy79 Goons have repeatedly stated they wish to shoot hydra,Pure and Mostly Harmless. We've also stated that we have no desire to screw around in Razor's backyard. In addition there is no desire to engage in POS warfare against Pure, Hydra or MH. There is no grudge there. They're just neutral, they get shot when we see them, just like we get shot when they see us.
Torment Caldari MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.07.03 21:50:00 - [42] Originally by: TornSoul Karma's a ***** huh Raven. This post intended for a select audience. They know who they are. "Told you so" I think that select audience may have just took notice
jpnwobigheadz	Posted - 2008.07.03 22:09:00 - [43] Edited by: jpnwobigheadz on 03/07/2008 22:16:08 well all im glad i jumped when i did :P nice to see that some peeps will get there just desserts in the end
Drakine MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.07.03 23:57:00 - [44] Originally by: jpnwobigheadz Edited by: jpnwobigheadz on 03/07/2008 22:16:08 well all im glad i jumped when i did :P nice to see that some peeps will get there just desserts in the end we all know you stole mags isk. So you can't talk.
the beyonder	Posted - 2008.07.04 01:48:00 - [45] well goon thinks i was katet CEO lol and they posted on their forums some pics of some family in north carolina lol totally wrong and the funniest part was the posting person looked like he was dragged out of the mountains of north carolina roflol i say all that to say hey cant believe anyone anywhere at anytime lol
vall's assisstant	Posted - 2008.07.04 02:56:00 - [46] i have posted on these forums only once, but i am compelled to share what i heard and observed as all this has unfolded. i have only given 100% to ka-tet and te-ka as their diplo. i have not ever lied to the members of either alliance, as it is not may nature. i loved my people very much from the days trigger and folkodemon offered my corp opportunities in the wonderful free ratting and mining spaces and open markets of outer passage in february 2007 as a resident. when chib opened the doors again to join my corp to te-ka first to see if we acclamated, followed by our introduction into ka-tet, when we had a station ready to construct, my corp's loyalty continued to the end of ka-tet. the loyalty still is strong, as rampage eternal has always proved trustworthiest. the first thing i want to say about tornsoul is that he is nothing but an alliance divider, who knows so little cause he rarely logs on and never contributes to a single alliance ops (only the market for his corp's profit). he gave away our oasa region that we paid 30 billion for to cdi members of carpe universitas, who also coerced our former members to join them, without the consent of the members who paid for legion of death for oasa. no guilt felt for your removal from our alliance, as i was there as the alliance struggled like hell, while u would not give it up. i have cared alot for big members tho. at least we sold their station for 15 million and got half of our isk back from the sale of the station. no wonder u are disgruntled enough to post here. there is no karma here or ka-tet would be perfectly defended by all the allies including legion of death, who want the finest members in the drone region to survive. it is a shame that we have minimal experience with scammers in k space, so we have had an innocent sheltered life there. it was a very nice existence, while it lasted. sorry we could not provide enough isk to saisfy all the greed of our former members or allies. we were conveniently allowed to develop an empire market in the drone region, with plans long ago made to take it afterwards (bottom line/common knowledge). goonswarm thinks ethereal dawn appears innocent, they should know ka-tets and te-kas. they were the greatest and loyalest i have ever known. as far as raven kahn, one of the things i admire is his sensability to try to make some isk to survive. i know he was told there was space available for te-kas, who we did not want to leave displaced. we tried to give them intel we got on irc/ed space for rent in oasa, as well as space in fountain that jonny 101 offered, even tho there was no way to confirm or deny that space or a moon was available. the moment he knew a scam had happened, he told me to post a message in the te-ka ceo chat channel to stop any further losses. we could have left everyone to fend for themselves, but they really attached to us and us to them. i had very sincere, personal convoes with irc/ed about the care of my former te-kas. the members were even warned about those evemails we were not sure about from Contraktor on behalf of Mr. Raine from cdi/carpe universitas. additionally, there were were no great assets to have mysteriously disappeared, nor any fantastic isk to be made from te-kas. the alliance had a holding corp, in which me and my ceo were members to view the corp wallet. the te-ka members made small payments that rarely made the wallet greater than 2 billion, which was used to buy a rorqual to try to get pos fuels to the region and purchase alliance posses for the cyno route to empire. if any futher info is needed convo me personally, cause i have chatlogs and know what unfolded the entire time.
vall's assisstant	Posted - 2008.07.04 02:57:00 - [47] <---beyonderLover alt
Raven Kahn Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2008.07.04 03:17:00 - [48] The following is the only thing i hafe to say on this subject: I had no idea this was a scam, if i had known i would not have sent good folks into a scam, that is not me. I try to be stright up and honset with folks, that is me. We were being removed by Solar wing, Solar fleet, and Legion of xxdeathxx, our "allies" were staying "neutral", we had renters that are good people that needed a home, and i thought jonny 101 was legit, i guess i was stupid on that respect. Bottom line is i had people that needed a home and I thought I was dong a good thing by trying to get them a home all together. The time to do that was rapidly dimminishing and they needed somthing fast. The finders fee yes I did ask for a finders fee which i never expected to get, I just expected my folks that needed a home to get one. As for the moon price hike, if i can make someone a little bit more on the moon they are more likley to take more of the corps into there alliance as renters, well that was my thinking at least. Looking back the sad thing is I unknowing assisted someone in scamming good people, which really sucks. I am not a scammer and I simply can not condone someone scamming folks, even in a game it is in very very poor taste. Think of me how you will, I know the truth and the people that know me also know the truth. I know many folks dont like me for various reasons probly because you had tried to screw me or ka-tet or te-ka and I called you on it. It was put out to Te-Ka at the time it was found to be a scam for them to not mess with him any more. Scammers have never been tollerated in RAM nor in any Ka-Tet or Te-Ka corps. Best wishes and have fun, Raven Kahn Eve Time Cards
CEWL Minmatar Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2008.07.04 05:06:00 - [49] BUMP Support for Raven
kahtankah THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.04 05:25:00 - [50] Edited by: kahtankah on 04/07/2008 05:27:00 posting in a thread full of words i didnt read EDIT: i mean holy snickers bar thats alot of words about an irrelevent alliance

Prontifex THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.07.04 05:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Raven Kahn wall of text Raven Kahn Incoherent babbling will surely clear your name. As for your 'neutral' allies, for one you weren't worth keeping and two you told them you would take the same stance if they were attacked. Do you believe in karma?
Chib Storm Guard Elite	Posted - 2008.07.04 05:57:00 - [52] the fact scamming is still tolerated is the most unfortunate aspect of this game, if people want to play the "its a vocation in RL" card then they should take into account when scammers are caught they goto jail, or at least punished by the authorities, CCP should look into this issue more i feel especially when its being bragged about creating troll threads Ka-tet never EVER accepted scamming of anykind within its borders, even when ppl were caught buying cheap items on market to re-sell they were pulled up, reprimanded and told to pay back the difference which everyone did ...because there was respect amongst its members, sadly time passed and ppl got greedy, the alliance split time after time over various issues and it was always on a backfoot, not really having the russian knack for "profit" it struggled on, now when finally katets on the mend, beginning to fully extract the resources from its home and once again begins to flex its muscles the inevitable happened theres a pattern to this behaviour, anyone old enough to remember when RAT was the shoot who we want arm of RA, members would switch back and forth because any standings rat had never really lasted long. solar fleet is just same, ra splitting and following multiple agendas while protecting its reputation, "feigning" we arent ra anymore therefore loyalties no longer apply doesnt cut it with me since the leadership were essentially ra leadership friends should go with the people and not with the brand imo anyways there will always be "he said, she said" whenever an entity falls in eve that comes with it, Katet was a good alliance loyalty at its core, and was once the power in the drone regions, it built the first OP in drone space and has cemented something into eve forever, although i feel katet could of done more to defend its home, (maybe that was due to the mindset that the alliance was still "recovering" rather than "reborn" ) i hope it continues on without disbanding maybe even reclaim its former home one day if it does i will be there ---------------------------------------------
HotSeat Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.04 06:06:00 - [53] If you ask Shamis, he will likely give you kublai's station in fountian Sov 4 is nothing compared to the Power of the Grief !!
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.07.04 06:43:00 - [54] You didn't waste time writing this! Change the names a little and use this as a template for the next 0.0. alliance to fall...dibs on publishing rights? San Matari Official forums
MentaFox The Chaotic Order Void.	Posted - 2008.07.04 09:19:00 - [55] n1 kublai ----------------------
Thorton Araya A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:23:00 - [56] It makes me sick to see beyonderLover argue about TornSoul and BIG. BeyonderLover you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. And then it is better to keep quiet... Raven Kahn: Poor attempt to wash your hands clean. Epic fail. And now this is coming MASS's way. Poor Nuker.
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:27:00 - [57] Originally by: Raven Kahn The following is the only thing i hafe to say on this subject: I had no idea this was a scam, if i had known i would not have sent good folks into a scam, that is not me. I try to be stright up and honset with folks, that is me. We were being removed by Solar wing, Solar fleet, and Legion of xxdeathxx, our "allies" were staying "neutral", we had renters that are good people that needed a home, and i thought jonny 101 was legit, i guess i was stupid on that respect. Bottom line is i had people that needed a home and I thought I was dong a good thing by trying to get them a home all together. The time to do that was rapidly dimminishing and they needed somthing fast. The finders fee yes I did ask for a finders fee which i never expected to get, I just expected my folks that needed a home to get one. As for the moon price hike, if i can make someone a little bit more on the moon they are more likley to take more of the corps into there alliance as renters, well that was my thinking at least. Looking back the sad thing is I unknowing assisted someone in scamming good people, which really sucks. I am not a scammer and I simply can not condone someone scamming folks, even in a game it is in very very poor taste. Think of me how you will, I know the truth and the people that know me also know the truth. I know many folks dont like me for various reasons probly because you had tried to screw me or ka-tet or te-ka and I called you on it. It was put out to Te-Ka at the time it was found to be a scam for them to not mess with him any more. Scammers have never been tollerated in RAM nor in any Ka-Tet or Te-Ka corps. Best wishes and have fun, Raven Kahn Whoah, man. You REALLY screwed up.
MrBadidea Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:49:00 - [58] Originally by: kublai it was my profitable track record as a scammer that got him hooked in the first place (the hulk bpo story is a magnet to greedy idiots). Scammer HIGH FIVE! o/ ---
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:51:00 - [59] Originally by: MrBadidea Originally by: kublai it was my profitable track record as a scammer that got him hooked in the first place (the hulk bpo story is a magnet to greedy idiots). Scammer HIGH FIVE! o/ \o Methods of Torture - Latrocinium
Catholic Priest Caldari A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:53:00 - [60] Raven Kahn is a liar and a thief. it's been spewing out on the forums for months now. stolen moons, stolen outposts, stolen Isk and anything else he soulc take he probably would. he was the main reason the last few old corps left ka-tet and he's the reason te-ka and lost thier stuff. it's a shame he took over the alliance. perhaps it would be in better condition at this point if it had been in someone elses. Have no doubt that raven's wallet is full and his stuff is safe.

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