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Boom ChickaBoom
Caldari Friendly Pod Poppers
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Posted - 2008.07.06 10:38:00 -
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Can someone from RA please elaborate on the diferences between the 3 groups.
I know that XIX were RA alts when it was created.
Solar split from RA because they wanted to kill smashkill and secure the drone regions while the rest of RA were fighting BOB in the south. RA itself stayed out of the geminate and drone wars and remained blue to smashkill longer than the NC did yet whenever solar makes a move on someones space everyone calls RA backstabbers.
Although the 3 groups remain close with eachother they are infact seperate. Just as an example they could easily have reset smahkill and helped steamroll them and tbh should have but they didnt. There was no need for sneaky underhand politics there and there was no benifit to keep them blue.
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Dihania
Gallente Mucho Dolor
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Posted - 2008.07.06 10:48:00 -
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Why would they tell you?
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:11:00 -
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What if somebody from XIX or SDG elaborates?
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Black Tangent
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:22:00 -
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NC was blue to us up until our reset a week ago they just didn't really care that much tbh
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Hiberix
Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:30:00 -
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There was obviously no need to RA to join them as they were strong enough anyway at the end of the day solar was formed once RA had scouted and then decided to get rid of us and smashkill etc they then nap with us all and then all of a sudden RA off-spring start attacking heavy so not using RA name but RA players they started there campaign against us and they are doing the exact same now nap with all the north while there off-spring slowley wipe you all out i will happily stand corrected if im wrong but i doubt it and i think deep down the NC must be thinking which 1 of us will be next after MH i still go with IRON
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Azn Carebear
Mater Omida
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:31:00 -
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Proxies.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Eternity INC. Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:35:00 -
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kinda like when ra created RAT to attack the5, and no omega i dont believe you ;) -
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Centauris
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:36:00 -
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Im sure you can expect and count on an official response from Daira, or Nync or Oort anytime now.
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Daniel Grim
Solar Dragons SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hiberix There was obviously no need to RA to join them as they were strong enough anyway at the end of the day solar was formed once RA had scouted and then decided to get rid of us and smashkill etc they then nap with us all and then all of a sudden RA off-spring start attacking heavy so not using RA name but RA players they started there campaign against us and they are doing the exact same now nap with all the north while there off-spring slowley wipe you all out i will happily stand corrected if im wrong but i doubt it and i think deep down the NC must be thinking which 1 of us will be next after MH i still go with IRON
Peoke's style and punctuation detected
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Hiberix
Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:37:00 -
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excuse me please do not ever compare me to him, but honestly is that the best you can say
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Hohne
Antares Fleet Yards
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Grim Peoke's style and punctuation detected
You have obviously never read anything Peoke wrote.
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Daniel Grim
Solar Dragons SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Grim on 06/07/2008 11:46:55
Originally by: Hohne
Originally by: Daniel Grim Peoke's style and punctuation detected
You have obviously never read anything Peoke wrote.
God blessed me with that!
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:47:00 -
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It is a mystery, like Bigfoot or Chupacabra.
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:56:00 -
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I am not sure why I did it, but I looked up the whole DMC stuff, couldn't find everything, but lets do a small recap... RA protects DMC
Basicly, DMC wanted protection and paid RA for it. Both RA and XiX now protect DMC.
Now I am not sure in which order, but here are two more things that happend... XiX want Titan cheap Ka-Tet attacks DMC
Cruel Fox was in DMC at that time, tried to sell a titan, and XiX tried to scam them out of it. Ka-Tet paid RA so they could attack DMC. Remember, Ka-Tet was at that time another follower of RA, interesting enough they got booted out recently, too...
Then quite some poo happend and we get this little jewel, sorry, couldn't find the war dec of RA in all the old threads... DMC surrenderd to RA
DMC got attacked by RA, they surrendered and negotiated an evacuation NAP. But yeah, XiX is a seperate entity, so the evacuation got a little hotter than most people liked.
Now remember:
Quote: I know that XIX were RA alts when it was created
So basicly RA's pilots attacked with their Alts, while the Mains couldn't because of the NAP. And lastyly another quote from those times...
Quote: Uh, so letĘs very hypothetically look at the possible future. WouldnĘt it be just perfectly ironic if say some unnamed entity now does exactly same thing as SMASH/KILL did to them for last 6 months and while they have positive standings to SMASH/KILL start killing of their allies who donĘt, like say Atlas and Chaos. Two stations are up for the taking too.
Uh the sweet smell of irony in that would be just awesomeą
Thanks for that quote, Mc Leech, member of XiX, and yes, it is ironic
That is just one instance of why I won't put sneaky underhand politics past RA to further their goal. Oh, and I never was DMC... ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style! |
Cruel Fox
Divine Power R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.06 14:22:00 -
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O yes: Ra, XIX, Solars r all diferent alliances, differend ppl and all that, all with diferent standings ect ect ect;
But when my little stupidty let me to actually trust them i clearlly saw they all simply act together, do what they need to do for common Russians goals. They r same grop of guys and thinking about them as differend enteties is just wrong. We never call in XIX, but RA simply call them in. XIX dude - UA_Death - even his name says so was UA corp leader and ex leader of RA, and solars no long back were in RA.
So yes - using standings/group of ppl on teritory that suits them is actually smart thing and goes with their mentality, corputed selfimage off honor and reputatin.
Exemple: wheil one in RA will be talking piece with u in 1 convo - he would already be reporting to XIX that RA made sure and cover XIX back with signing nap to u. So XIX is free to atack u for as long as they like.
Anyhow - some ppl r smart and learn from experiances of others - i was stupid enought not to and got ****ed!
Nothing new/nothing important - move on! _________________________________________
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AK74
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cruel Fox words
Shut up and shave, little fox.
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Cruel Fox
Divine Power R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.06 14:28:00 -
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pff - u can get it hard to have it small - and when ull get it big i shell kiss your ass and folow your advises and stop posting. _________________________________________
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AK74
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cruel Fox i shell kiss your ass
u can start right now.
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Faekurias on 06/07/2008 14:51:29 Edited by: Faekurias on 06/07/2008 14:48:54 AK74(SU) kapew-pewpew
60 round magazine PEWPEW
Japenese testing of AK vs M16 -----------------------------------
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waferzankko
Caldari Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.07.06 15:26:00 -
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ra is run by mostly southwest russa aka where vladimir putin is from.
xdx is from north west russa this is the place they sent bad people, joseph stalin was born here in 1878 stalin
dragons where mostly ex ka-tet, and they are from the deep south dragons home
the more you know about history they more you know about the past.
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: waferzankko ra is run by mostly southwest russa aka where vladimir putin is from.
Who was head of the follow up organisation of the KGB? I thought you tried to argue RA is not sneaky...
Originally by: waferzankko
dragons where mostly ex ka-tet, and they are from the deep south
So like the corp Solardragons was never in the Red Alliance? Where came all the titans from? Oh, and why is Ka-Tet now being kicked out by their own ex corp members?
____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style! |
TOTALHELLDEATH
Caldari Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Thoran Karlien
Originally by: waferzankko ra is run by mostly southwest russa aka where vladimir putin is from.
Who was head of the follow up organisation of the KGB? I thought you tried to argue RA is not sneaky...
Originally by: waferzankko
dragons where mostly ex ka-tet, and they are from the deep south
So like the corp Solardragons was never in the Red Alliance? Where came all the titans from? Oh, and why is Ka-Tet now being kicked out by their own ex corp members?
oh no!!! by your post even my milk got bitter ;(
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Thoran Karlien
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH
oh no!!! by your post even my milk got bitter ;(
Bitter? You know what is bitter? Getting back into highsec, to my favourite agent, and the very first mission that stupid idiot gives me is against rogue drones! That is bitter. Rogue drones are even less fun than one lined alt poster.
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Cruel Fox
Divine Power R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: AK74
Originally by: Cruel Fox i shell kiss your ass
u can start right now.
and as u dont know how to read - i guess u really have big - big dumb brains
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Pohbis on 06/07/2008 20:30:27
XIX, Solar and RA are a bunch of Russians who pew pew with the best of them and do 0.0 politics like everyone should. Divide and Conquer.
They've got more NAPs than the NC, including some big, but lesser cool brosephs, like UNL, U-RA, TCF and GS. Well, TCF are actually pretty cool on their own.
Not going to list their pets since they may or may not be alive when you read this...
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Alekanderu
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.06 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: waferzankko ra is run by mostly southwest russa aka where vladimir putin is from.
xdx is from north west russa this is the place they sent bad people, joseph stalin was born here in 1878 stalin
dragons where mostly ex ka-tet, and they are from the deep south dragons home
the more you know about history they more you know about the past.
stalin was born in georgia you utter moron
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.06 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Alekanderu stalin was born in georgia you utter moron
Wow, learn something new everyday. Here I thought Stalin was born in Russia but it turns out he was born in the good ol' USA! When did he move to Russia? This Stalin is an amazing person which I want to know more about.
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Two Knives
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.06 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mire Stoude
Wow, learn something new everyday. Here I thought Stalin was born in Russia but it turns out he was born in the good ol' USA! When did he move to Russia? This Stalin is an amazing person which I want to know more about.
damn you're dumb
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Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.06 21:45:00 -
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My dear god. ---------------------------------------------- Full circle.
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Mc Leech
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.07.06 22:02:00 -
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Let me clarify this, XIX is defiantly an alliance of RA alts, and Solar are our alts. In fact I was going to make a post here to confirm with my alt Eretic, but my alt is not on ICQ atm., so it didnĘt worked as planned. See it was too boring for us to play just for 1 side because we would win too easily, so to make it more fun we decided to put alts in all major power blocks and play for all the sides at the same time.
In fact most of pvp alliances and alliance leaders are just our alts (peoke is defiantly not one of them).
What do you think are your chances of anyone actually telling you what relationships between any of our alliances are?
I will give you a small glimpse. Surprisingly there are many people in all Russian alliance (more than 2). Some people like each other, some donĘt. Many started in same alliance and left for varicose reasons to join others. However at the end of the day, they all know each other for a long time, they speak same language, and they have much in common. You know what they say old enemy is better than a new friend. Who are you on the other hand?
Here is what I think is a rough representation of who we like and dislike from the most liked to the least liked (this is my personal view, but then again I might be an alt of GOD and this is now the universal law):
All other Russian alliances (excluding stella polar, not claiming them as Russians, you can have them)
Goons
All other none Russian alliances that help and contribute to coalition
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Pets (capable pets, if you are incompetent stay in empire)
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NAPs (nap means we wonĘt kill you today, maybe, but thatĘs all that means unless you help and contribute to coalition or being useful to us there is no obligation for us to keep that +standing. NAP is just the start, if you get it and prove to be bunch of incompetent fools than sorry, but this is eve online not red cross, we dont do charity)
Old enemies that have proven to be worthy foes
Neutrals
Neutrals that have lots of space but donĘt deserve to keep it (AKA carebear alliances)
All other current -10
Dev. Zalupak
Peoke
This list should give you a clue how you can improve your standing or who is "next" on our list. (Yes its Zalupak )
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