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Taipion
Los Primitivos
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:41:00 -
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"Adaptive Invulnerability Field II" ?!?
"EM Ward Field II" ?!?
"...roughly 2k others" ?!? (did not count, but the list was LONG)
...my list of market order all a mess, again!
When did CCP change the names of those roughly 2k items?!
I allways read the patch notes very carefully, and I did not see this!
Not that CCP would stop for me, and most of the new names make no sense, again... |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:54:00 -
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I didn't see this in the notes either and am very disappointed, especially in the shield module renames. I don't understand why they're insisting on these name changes for everything when they were just fine and people learned them just fine/ Stuff Goes here |
Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
52
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:57:00 -
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killboard stealth nerf |
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
44
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Posted - 2012.03.15 01:58:00 -
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The new names are so bland and dumbed down... the old names were cool and sci-fi-ee. Why don't they just put the meta level/max meta level in the bottom icon's corner or something..
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3430
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Posted - 2012.03.15 02:05:00 -
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Hey, me and a dozen other posters fought hard to get the names fixed and moving foward stop complaining.
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Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
60
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Posted - 2012.03.15 02:28:00 -
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And when we shot this down in the Dev blog thread about it they said they would reconsider.
I guess they really don't care what we think. I like this game but I'm really tired of getting pissed on. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
997
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Posted - 2012.03.15 02:37:00 -
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great... more ****** up killboards
I went to buy an invlun last night and was WTF is an "adaptive" invulnerability field??
HELLO CCP!
CHANGING THE NAMES OF THINGS SO NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE IS FIXING NOTHING!
NOTHING!
Honestly, I'd rather you guys fire more redundant coders than do this idiotic busy work to justify someone's paycheck ESPECIALLY WHEN IT HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE WHO PAY YOU NOW!
sod future players, I want to be able to understand the everyday **** in a game I've been playing for years
I hope someone sneaks into your apartments and rearranges the furniture and relabels your itunes collections The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Par'Gellen
20
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Posted - 2012.03.15 03:24:00 -
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I agree that all the renaming is getting a tad silly. Took me about 10 seconds to figure out what was what again but still, what's the point of all the renaming? To err is human, but it shouldn't be the company motto... |
Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
365
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Posted - 2012.03.15 03:48:00 -
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CCP WHY DID YOU CHANGE THE NAME TO "GUN", WE WE PERFECTLY HAPPY CALLING IT A "ROOTY TOOTY POINT-AND-SHOOTY" |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
933
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Posted - 2012.03.15 03:54:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Hey, me and a dozen other posters fought hard to get the names fixed and moving foward stop complaining.
Occasionally Nova, you are actually funny.
Can you imagine CCP changing something that requires an update to implement because thirteen people whined about it.
That would be fuckin' hilarious.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
90
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Posted - 2012.03.15 04:03:00 -
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Taipion wrote:"Adaptive Invulnerability Field II" ?!?
"EM Ward Field II" ?!?
"...roughly 2k others" ?!? (did not count, but the list was LONG)
...my list of market order all a mess, again!
When did CCP change the names of those roughly 2k items?!
I allways read the patch notes very carefully, and I did not see this!
Not that CCP would stop for me, and most of the new names make no sense, again, but they could have put it in the patch notes...
(New CCP budget cutting! : Patch note now run by interns, so in line now with coding, design and so on (all run by interns allready))
Read the ******* dev blogs and patch notes. Most of your questions will be answered there! |
Endeavour Starfleet
701
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Posted - 2012.03.15 04:36:00 -
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Thanks for the changes CCP. Despite the whining the names sound cool and are easier to find in a hurry now.
Ok now you can go back to your pointless whining folks! |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
976
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Posted - 2012.03.15 04:55:00 -
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Whingers gonna whinge. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
649
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Posted - 2012.03.15 06:36:00 -
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Dont like this modules names standarization. |
Riyal
Chode Extravaganza
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 06:51:00 -
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Neat, I can buy a shield tank without remembering the alternative wording for the 4 damage types. |
Shogun Archer
Phoenix Rise Industries
9
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:21:00 -
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I had to walk uphill both ways... |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
962
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:46:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Hey, me and a dozen other posters fought hard to get the names fixed and moving foward stop complaining.
don't assume you personally influenced them.
you didn't. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |
MissNic
Bellum Romana
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:49:00 -
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It's mildly irritating, with killboards and tools like eveHQ now needing another update. But it's not exactly the end of the world and at least it's still obvious which is which, unlike when they changed prop mods' names |
Ticarus Hellbrandt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.03.15 09:10:00 -
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yes I was sick as well when i saw this
type in upgraded on the market and you will see how fantastic this naming stuff is, why the old one was no good - ccp hates us .
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Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
31
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Posted - 2012.03.15 09:50:00 -
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I never even noticed anything had changed until I saw the forum whines.
Why are people pissed about this again? Killboards broken? IIRC those things fall over when the weather changes anyway so what's so different this time? |
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Spectre80
The Knights Templar GIANTSBANE.
51
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Posted - 2012.03.15 10:24:00 -
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this is ****. i dont have any interest on learning new module names after playing this game so many years. |
Taipion
Los Primitivos
57
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:04:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Hey, me and a dozen other posters fought hard to get the names fixed and moving foward stop complaining. This guy is a VERY lonely troll, please ignore him, and refrain from feeding the troll no matter how pitiful he looks at you, thanks!
These changes were not in the patch notes!
I demand an answer from CCP! This is outright bullshitting the community!
On the other hand, most of the names downgrade the sci-fi-feeling, and are very disturbing to the hundreds of thousands active players, but little of a help for a handful of new players, not that CCP would care.
It goes like this:
- messed up with Micro Transactions (Nex Store) and beeing afraid now, how people will act
- try to change a few things first, to test reactions (AB / MWD / Missile names)
- ignore the complaints of the community to these changes, nothing too bad happens
- push harder with stealth-patching 2000 other items names for no reason
=> feel confident now, that the community can be pushed around, again
=> downgrade EVE to easy mode, so that all the wow-kiddys get stuck to it
=> squeeze all possible $$ out of it |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1242
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:19:00 -
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Quote:On the other hand, most of the names downgrade the sci-fi-feeling, and are very disturbing to the hundreds of thousands active players, but little of a help for a handful of new players, not that CCP would care.
Actually your over blown, paranoid, ill tempered, rabble rousing posts are far more disturbing to the hundreds of thousands of active players than some simple name changes in game will ever be.
The game is being continuously changed and updated, things WILL change (including fundamentals like item names) from time to time. Getting your panties in a wad each and every time this happens makes you look more than a touch emo, and accomplishes nothing.
Get a grip.
If you don't like the new names, suggest an alternative naming scheme if you like, but the old arbitrary names were removed for a reason and are not likely to come back (thankfully).
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate EVE Animal Control
33
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Posted - 2012.03.15 16:52:00 -
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TBH they could call anything in the game they want anything they want and it wouldn't matter to me. So who cares.
In fact why call all kinetic dealing missiles "trauma" or whatever it is now. I'd be more happy with "Kinetic Heavy missile" "kinetic rocket" ect.
"ZOMG you're ruining my ability to pretend I'm a spaceship pilot with your names of these items that aren't as 'sci-fi' any more!"
If you like to and are able to pretend that "eve is real", which is all fine and dandy if it's what you like to do, then pretend the names of the items in your pretend world are more sci-fi. Seems simple enough. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1268
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:00:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:And when we shot this down in the Dev blog thread about it they said they would reconsider.
I guess they really don't care what we think. I like this game but I'm really tired of getting pissed on.
Personally I'm going back down to 1 account. Yeah...the minority shot it down. Most people approved or didn't care. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3434
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:14:00 -
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Taipion wrote:Nova Fox wrote:Hey, me and a dozen other posters fought hard to get the names fixed and moving foward stop complaining. This guy is a VERY lonely troll, please ignore him, and refrain from feeding the troll no matter how pitiful he looks at you, thanks! These changes were not in the patch notes!I demand an answer from CCP! This is outright bullshitting the community! On the other hand, most of the names downgrade the sci-fi-feeling, and are very disturbing to the hundreds of thousands active players, but little of a help for a handful of new players, not that CCP would care. It goes like this: - messed up with Micro Transactions (Nex Store) and beeing afraid now, how people will act - try to change a few things first, to test reactions (AB / MWD / Missile names) - ignore the complaints of the community to these changes, nothing too bad happens - push harder with stealth-patching 2000 other items names for no reason => feel confident now, that the community can be pushed around, again => downgrade EVE to easy mode, so that all the wow-kiddys get stuck to it => squeeze all possible $$ out of it
Troll?
Its Fox, learn the difference. Foxes have a nasty habbit of turning things around and biting you back. Also stop obsessing over me, it has yet to been healthy for anyone that has done so in the past.
Now then onto the complaints.
Changes where mentioned in the patch notes:
Crucible 1.5 Patch Notes wrote: GÇóAll Kinetic missiles now have the name GÇÿScourgeGÇÖ back. GÇóAll scripts now carry the suffix GÇÿScriptGÇÖ after their name. This affects Focused Warp Disruption, Optimal Range Disruption, Tracking Speed Disruption, Scan Resolution, Targeting Range, Optimal Range and Tracking Speed. GÇóShield hardeners, Shield resistance amplifiers, Armor hardeners, Energized plating and Resistance plating will all have their damage type inserted into their names. GÇóThree classes of missile launcher have been renamed to better indicate the type of missile they fit. Assault Missile Launchers are now Rapid Light Missile Launchers, Standard Launchers are now Light Missile Launchers and Siege Launchers have become Torpedo Launchers. GÇóAll skill hardwirings in the game have had their names changed to conform to a particular scheme, where the name of the implant's affected skill is followed by a numerical appellation that indicates first the implant's slot and second the implant's percentage bonus.
CCP has answered. A dozen or so times. Just becuase you make a thread aimed at ccp doesnt mean youll get a response especially when CCP beats you in making a feedback thread. Now if it was possible to drag and drop threads from one spot into another for consolidation that be a wonderful feature for thier end.
CSM didnt throw thier hands in the air after being shown the future of the MT store CSM even further interated back on how it should be better handeled. Microtransaction stores are getting big, and you're right its money. Money ccp needs to compete against publishing giants like EA which is now developing a game to counter eve directly. CCP only makes 66 million in raw pay a month, take home pay is probably much lower. When mordern game development takes 100's of millions of dollars and outrival hollywood movies of course its all about the money. CSM and the eve community have already expressed the best possible comprimise between MT and the pay to play model. which is nothing ever directly MT'd would ever be combat advantage.
Hmm I wonder why the scourge name was changed back. Once again I wonder why scourge name was changed back. Those 9000 other items included a rifter launcher as in it shoot out rifters, self destruct devices, pilotable rogue drone ships, and various attempts at a tech 3 module, impossible ships, and extremly weird things. They wouldnt be missed... that much.
CCP isnt like EA, EA is charging a reactivation fee for ToR, hiding the cancel buttons, and deleting accounts that quit forcing a rebuy of the client software.
IF CCP was like any ohter mmo they would CHARGE you for EVERY Expansion, CHARGE you for the CD, and block you off from getting red roped access to any content without paying for all what 18 expansions?
And you're crying this much over a name change?
Grow up. Adapt. or Die.
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Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
41
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:16:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Nova Fox wrote:Hey, me and a dozen other posters fought hard to get the names fixed and moving foward stop complaining. Occasionally Nova, you are actually funny. Can you imagine CCP changing something that requires an update to implement because thirteen people whined about it. That would be fuckin' hilarious. Mr Epeen
I think it's already happened....
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Taipion
Los Primitivos
57
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:17:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:...lots of bullshit... troll elsewhere, please
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3434
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:18:00 -
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Why? You dont like losing it seems.
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Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
41
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:20:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:[quote=Taipion][quote=Nova Fox]. SNIP*
*** CCP only makes 66 million in raw pay a month, take home pay is probably much lower. ***
Grow up. Adapt. or Die.
If you want to argue facts and insult people, at least get the numbers right.....It's YEAR.....
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Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
18
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:23:00 -
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I really wonder if CCP is going back to the old Incarna days now. So much messing around and acting as if they knew everything better.
For the renames. Yeah hey, might be nice, if they had a structure to it and the new names were actually making more sense. But for me they dont. For your attention! Market order modification fee (anti-botting, more interesting trading) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78351 |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
225
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:24:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote: In fact why call all kinetic dealing missiles "trauma" or whatever it is now. I'd be more happy with "Kinetic Heavy missile" "kinetic rocket" ect.
Kinetic energy delivers such a descriptive wound.
'Blunt implement' = 'Trauma' 'Fireballs' = 'Scorch marked pants' 'Arms and legs everywhere' = 'Explosion' 'Electronic damage' = 'EMP shockwaves'
Last one, bit iffy.
Usually, when something gets rebranded, the new brand name appears 'everywhere', however I think some places got forgotten:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Missiles:Heavy_Missiles:Standard_Heavy_Missiles
Who owns this database? I think they should be poked a couple of times with a Blunt implement. ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
22
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:28:00 -
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If name changing and a game adapting/developing is so bad...
I demand that all new things implemented since the game was released be removed/undone, so that I can experience the game the way it was originally designed !
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3434
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Posted - 2012.03.15 17:32:00 -
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Avid Bumhumper wrote:Nova Fox wrote:[quote=Taipion][quote=Nova Fox]. SNIP*
*** CCP only makes 66 million in raw pay a month, take home pay is probably much lower. ***
Grow up. Adapt. or Die. If you want to argue facts and insult people, at least get the numbers right.....It's YEAR.....
meh can't be perfect you know? But Ill be level headed enough to say, yup screwed up by 12x.
There are alot of numbers out there though and even worse estimates such as Eve possibly nearing the 400k sub mark which is alot better than the quater billion spent into the sinking mmo ship known as ToR which requires minmal 500k subs to operate according to BW and all indicators are saying they're are projected to go below that very soon as the 3 month 2 month subs are up and the desperation to the free to play weekend (whcih is rather shorter than eves 60 day offers at time then again both games are at different time scales.)
Bottom line about the name change complaints though is mostly unfounded.
We got them to change names twice and according to chaos test server we got a partial comprimise going on. Which basically changes alot of items to have a meta prefix for a name now.
We understood the need to get rid of meta guessing. We understood the need for uniformity. We understood that renaming items isnt a form of dumbing down the game it doesnt boost anything it doenst nerf anything and the names ultimately still doesnt effect how well an idiot can fail with said module when its used wrong. We didnt like how flavor was being taken now the new chaos changes indicate we won there and falvor names are staying. We didnt like turma missile names for some reason, thus scourge changes. We loved the new implant renames.
Thus progress in some areas not so much in others there are about 10k items it will take a while to rename them all.
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Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
42
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:17:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Avid Bumhumper wrote:Nova Fox wrote:[quote=Taipion][quote=Nova Fox]. SNIP*
*** CCP only makes 66 million in raw pay a month, take home pay is probably much lower. ***
Grow up. Adapt. or Die. If you want to argue facts and insult people, at least get the numbers right.....It's YEAR..... meh can't be perfect you know? But Ill be level headed enough to say, yup screwed up by 12x. There are alot of numbers out there though and even worse estimates such as Eve possibly nearing the 400k sub mark which is alot better than the quater billion spent into the sinking mmo ship known as ToR which requires minmal 500k subs to operate according to BW and all indicators are saying they're are projected to go below that very soon as the 3 month 2 month subs are up and the desperation to the free to play weekend (whcih is rather shorter than eves 60 day offers at time then again both games are at different time scales.) Bottom line about the name change complaints though is mostly unfounded. We got them to change names twice and according to chaos test server we got a partial comprimise going on. Which basically changes alot of items to have a meta prefix for a name now. We understood the need to get rid of meta guessing. We understood the need for uniformity. We understood that renaming items isnt a form of dumbing down the game it doesnt boost anything it doenst nerf anything and the names ultimately still doesnt effect how well an idiot can fail with said module when its used wrong. We didnt like how flavor was being taken now the new chaos changes indicate we won there and falvor names are staying. We didnt like turma missile names for some reason, thus scourge changes. We loved the new implant renames. Thus progress in some areas not so much in others there are about 10k items it will take a while to rename them all.
WE did? No you did.
I could care less about the renaming, other than the fact that it's causing more confusion than is really required.
I think many of us however, are scratching are heads at the incredible RUSH to get this stuff done, when so many other game play issues could use attention.....
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Taipion
Los Primitivos
58
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:18:00 -
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Azure Moonlight wrote:I really wonder if CCP is going back to the old Incarna days now. So much messing around and acting as if they knew everything better.
For the renames. Yeah hey, might be nice, if they had a structure to it and the new names were actually making more sense. But for me they dont. Thats how I feel!
And well, the trolls here are almost a real nuisance, but thats how kids act these days... Go to reddit and l2troll! |
Vetrox Satria
Vetrox Technologies
19
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:31:00 -
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Game has changed
Its not changing back unless CCP state otherwise.
Do what every other gamer does on every other game and adapt. |
Ayuren Aakiwa
Wyvern Operations
17
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:39:00 -
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This is beyond annoying, why ccp why? |
Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises Unprovoked Aggression
269
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:41:00 -
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There were some items in serious need of renaming (The AB's and MWD's for example)
However, why the **** would you rename the Invuln? you just added a word to it for no good reason.
Renaming SOME items was a great idea, but its gone too far now... |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3435
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:10:00 -
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Avid Bumhumper wrote:WE did? No you did. I could care less about the renaming, other than the fact that it's causing more confusion than is really required. I think many of us however, are scratching are heads at the incredible RUSH to get this stuff done, when so many other game play issues could use attention.....
Well slight problem with saying just I,
It would indicate that I am alone in this issue. Which with the existence of the OP im clearly no where near alone. Along with 200 pages+ of combined compalints/feedback/support/counter support.
Also further interating ccp never blamed anyone on at least taking a step back keeping thier ears open and willing to re - renames.
I however am not scratching my head though guy doing the renames is only in charge of writing thus stuff like mission text, name of items, corp descriptions, item descriptions are all in its department, He has little to do with the other long standing issues. It would be like getting the avatar artists to work reducing lag.
None the less there are plenty of writing relating fixes they could have gone in and fixed but its all on a big todo list none the less.
They could be naming planets in all high sec and the moons if they where really running out of stuff to do.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3435
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:11:00 -
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Taipion wrote:Azure Moonlight wrote:I really wonder if CCP is going back to the old Incarna days now. So much messing around and acting as if they knew everything better.
For the renames. Yeah hey, might be nice, if they had a structure to it and the new names were actually making more sense. But for me they dont. Thats how I feel! And well, the trolls here are almost a real nuisance, but thats how kids act these days... Go to reddit and l2troll!
WTF is reddit?
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Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
11
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:15:00 -
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Par'Gellen wrote:I agree that all the renaming is getting a tad silly. Took me about 10 seconds to figure out what was what again but still, what's the point of all the renaming?
So people unfamiliar with the game can look at an item and have some brief idea of WTF it may do and how well.
Really... CCP makes a good solid design change for once and every body is up in arms. The old names were convoluted unclear and bad game design. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.03.15 19:32:00 -
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The solution is found is to buy nothing except hulls. I go into fleet with no guns, mods, rigs, ammo. Makes it very simple to keep up... |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
786
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:23:00 -
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Ahem
I BELIEVE This was all announced in a dev blog few weeks ago.
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9130 Here is the link for everyone who missed the discussion on the renaming of modules.
Sorry you all had your time to give feed back and make changes and suggestions. So too late to whine and complain now. |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1051
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:45:00 -
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Useless changes, CCP learned much less than I thought from the massive feedback thread I got the impression that the changes would stop to hardwirings for now, but that was wrong assumption
Stuff hopping around in various lists, killboards and utilities breaking down... plenty of extra work learning old and fixing things again. My favourite updates right after the neocom fiasco. Bullbrownie is bullbrownie even you try to serve it on nice plate.
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Geoscape
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:47:00 -
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I, for one, approve of the new module names. Naysayers be damned. |
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
127
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Posted - 2012.03.15 20:58:00 -
[47] - Quote
THIS IS A CHANGE AND CHANGE SCARES ME! I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1051
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Posted - 2012.03.15 21:00:00 -
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Valentyn3 wrote:THIS IS A CHANGE AND CHANGE SCARES ME! This troll is getting old and isn't even funny anymore
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Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
376
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Posted - 2012.03.15 22:20:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:This troll is getting old and isn't even funny anymore
I know you are but what am I?
WELCOME TO THE 0WNZONE SUCKA
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Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:00:00 -
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Nope - I see no mention at all of Invulnerability Fields.
I could cope with Adaptive Invulnerability Fields if there were also Non-adaptive Invulnerability Fields, but as yet I've been unable to find any.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
230
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:34:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:They could be naming planets in all high sec and the moons if they where really running out of stuff to do. The only named system in Syndicate
Poitot
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
786
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Posted - 2012.03.15 23:55:00 -
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Ettu Brute II wrote:Nope - I see no mention at all of Invulnerability Fields. I could cope with Adaptive Invulnerability Fields if there were also Non-adaptive Invulnerability Fields, but as yet I've been unable to find any.
To Quote CCP
Armor Coating/Armor Hardener/Armor Plating Energized/Shield Resistance Amplifier/Shield Hardener
Every module that boosts either armor or shield resistance has gone under the knife. In addition to adapting them to the global Meta 1-4 scheme, we've replaced the words "Reflective," "Reactive" and "Magnetic" with the modules' relevant damage types (EM, Explosive and Kinetic, respectively).
One would assume that invuln would go to adaptive. pointless change but whatever im not going to lose sleep over it. |
M'nu
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.03.16 00:02:00 -
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Seems to be a lot of people in this thread that extend their arms and spin in circles. |
Taipion
Los Primitivos
58
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Posted - 2012.03.16 01:28:00 -
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Still, no one has stated why this was left off the patch notes... |
Zeta Zhul
Preemptive Paranoia
29
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Posted - 2012.03.16 01:38:00 -
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What irritates me is this Scourge vs Trauma nonsense. According to the dev/patch the Trauma missiles are being renamed Scourge. In the Crucible 1.5 static data dump the Trauma missiles -are- renamed to Scourge.
In the actual live client they are -Trauma- and not Scourge.
WTF!?
Look if CCP wants to play grab-ass with names then go ahead. It's their game. Wish they'd actually setup a system first but that's me. But this takes asshattery to a brand new level. |
Soporo
26
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:01:00 -
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Kolya Medz wrote: Why don't they just put the meta level/max meta level in the bottom icon's corner or something..
In fact, they should still do this.
Ps: If you insist on renaming things, please rename the SMART BOMB to something that actually makes a lick of sense. Who came up with calling the most totally indescriminate, unaimed, unguided area of effect weapon in the game SMART? It will attack friend, foes, neutrals, deployables, structures even. It almost guarantees random collateral damage.
It's about as smart as a brain damaged, epileptic, stoned monkey with a handgrenade.
Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3437
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:12:00 -
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its as smart as throwing a grenade at your feet and kills everything else around you but you.
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Aggressive Nutmeg
128
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:23:00 -
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Why can't we name our own items?
The official name - the name that appears in market - can be whatever. But I should be able to rename a trauma heavy to a kinetic heavy for my character's personal use.
Surely if I've got a crate of missiles in the hold, I can put a sticker on the side that says 'Kinetic'?
This of course leads on to a bigger issue of why we can't nickname everything in the overview. Sick of my screen being filled with useless text when I only need to see a few letters. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Aggressive Nutmeg
128
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Posted - 2012.03.16 02:30:00 -
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Soporo wrote:Ps: If you insist on renaming things, please rename the SMART BOMB to something that actually makes a lick of sense. Who came up with calling the most totally indescriminate, unaimed, unguided area of effect weapon in the game SMART? It will attack friend, foes, neutrals, deployables, structures even. It almost guarantees random collateral damage. It's about as smart as a brain damaged, epileptic, stoned monkey with a handgrenade. Sorry, had to get that off my chest. A smartbomb in the real world has some form of guidance system to control its fall.
It's only in video games that smartbomb is used to describe a dumb carpet-bombing manoeuvre. I blame 'Defender' from the 80's!
Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.03.16 04:14:00 -
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BAKKA BAKKA BAKKA RABBLE RABBLE |
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
17
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Posted - 2012.03.16 04:20:00 -
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Mr LaForge wrote:I didn't see this in the notes either and am very disappointed, especially in the shield module renames. I don't understand why they're insisting on these name changes for everything when they were just fine and people learned them just fine/
People read, the items inside eve is code base.. So you have code 1 = name here. Code 2 = naam here. And so on you got the idea.
However The items is inside a Boxs there is a list code that can hold 10000 or more items if eve online is expanding like it doing now the need to increase the HOLD code or boxs or whatever you like to call it.
If the Box is FULL the can not add more inside that boxs. So the only way to make room inside that boxs is to shift names to the otherboxs.
This will say that there is a massive new expand with allot of new items perhaps new ships or even bigger things.
Thats the good point however now for now its sucks because of the rename items the need to do. If you dont like it wait till there is a new patch or new expand and this will be over...... So short words deal with it. For now.
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Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.03.16 05:41:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:One would assume that invuln would go to adaptive. Er . . . , why? |
Aggressive Nutmeg
128
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Posted - 2012.03.16 05:51:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:I didn't see this in the notes either and am very disappointed, especially in the shield module renames. I don't understand why they're insisting on these name changes for everything when they were just fine and people learned them just fine/ People read, the items inside eve is code base.. So you have code 1 = name here. Code 2 = naam here. And so on you got the idea. However The items is inside a Boxs there is a list code that can hold 10000 or more items if eve online is expanding like it doing now the need to increase the HOLD code or boxs or whatever you like to call it. If the Box is FULL the can not add more inside that boxs. So the only way to make room inside that boxs is to shift names to the otherboxs. This will say that there is a massive new expand with allot of new items perhaps new ships or even bigger things. Thats the good point however now for now its sucks because of the rename items the need to do. If you dont like it wait till there is a new patch or new expand and this will be over...... So short words deal with it. For now. This post is... fascinating. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Z'aan Pulsar
Shadows of Golgothan Fields
0
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Posted - 2012.03.16 07:20:00 -
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Jovan Geldon wrote:CCP WHY DID YOU CHANGE THE NAME TO "GUN", WE WE PERFECTLY HAPPY CALLING IT A "ROOTY TOOTY POINT-AND-SHOOTY" Absolute GOLD. |
lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
5
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Posted - 2012.03.16 07:56:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:And when we shot this down in the Dev blog thread about it they said they would reconsider.
I guess they really don't care what we think. I like this game but I'm really tired of getting pissed on.
Personally I'm going back down to 1 account.
OH NOES THEY CHANGED THE NAMESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE UUUU CCPPPPPPPPP WTF I'M GONNA UNSUB AND GO BACK TO WOW BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE NAMEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (although they modules itself wasn't changed and it in no way affects what happens in space......)
/sarcasm (in case you missed it) |
Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
63
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Posted - 2012.03.16 11:31:00 -
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lollerwaffle wrote:Cindy Marco wrote:And when we shot this down in the Dev blog thread about it they said they would reconsider.
I guess they really don't care what we think. I like this game but I'm really tired of getting pissed on.
Personally I'm going back down to 1 account. OH NOES THEY CHANGED THE NAMESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE UUUU CCPPPPPPPPP WTF I'M GONNA UNSUB AND GO BACK TO WOW BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE NAMEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (although they modules itself wasn't changed and it in no way affects what happens in space......) /sarcasm (in case you missed it)
Perhaps you don't care if you are treated with respect. Any company that I don't feel treats me without it gets less, or none of my business. So yes, instead of keeping all my accounts active, I'll just keep one active.
Some name changes are good, but alot of the names are already awesome. We were arguing for the names that are great, to stay that way. Thankfully they did end up keeping the best name the same : the target painters. Bland names are not an improvement.
They lied to us, out right. They said they would reconsider some of the names, and they didn't. Everything went live as was originally planed. I didn't see any new naming schemes tried out on Sisi. I didn't get any new dev blogs.
They lied to us simply to placate us until they could stealth patch it onto live without complaint. |
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.16 12:23:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Crucible 1.5 Patch Notes wrote: GÇóAll Kinetic missiles now have the name GÇÿScourgeGÇÖ back. GÇóAll scripts now carry the suffix GÇÿScriptGÇÖ after their name. This affects Focused Warp Disruption, Optimal Range Disruption, Tracking Speed Disruption, Scan Resolution, Targeting Range, Optimal Range and Tracking Speed. GÇóShield hardeners, Shield resistance amplifiers, Armor hardeners, Energized plating and Resistance plating will all have their damage type inserted into their names. GÇóThree classes of missile launcher have been renamed to better indicate the type of missile they fit. Assault Missile Launchers are now Rapid Light Missile Launchers, Standard Launchers are now Light Missile Launchers and Siege Launchers have become Torpedo Launchers. GÇóAll skill hardwirings in the game have had their names changed to conform to a particular scheme, where the name of the implant's affected skill is followed by a numerical appellation that indicates first the implant's slot and second the implant's percentage bonus.
See, the first of these changes,I can live with. It makes it easier to search for Scripts now, if you want to look at what scripts you can build. And I've been hoping they'd add "Script" to all Script-names for some time now, so that's good too.
Hardeners... Well, it's actually nice enough, since it was a bit confusing that the Kinetic Shield Hardener and Amplifier had way more different names than any of the other types.
Launcher-renaming... Assault Missile Launchers are now named Rapid Light Missile Launchers. Makes plenty of sense, honestly. It is more fitting, either way, since I first thought you needed Assault Missiles for those, but Assault Missiles go in Heavy Assault Missile Launchers. Now they've clarified it for us. Thank you, CCP. And Siege Missile Launchers. Seriously? We don't have Siege Missiles. All other Launchers are named after the missiles they are used with. It was only about time CCP changed Siege to Torpedo, really. Now newbies don't have to spend hours looking for Siege Missiles.
Hardwirings... I already know the names of the ones I use. Why should I need to adapt to new names?
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Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
379
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:49:00 -
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Plaude Pollard wrote: Hardwirings... I already know the names of the ones I use. Why should I need to adapt to new names?
You are literally dumb, the hardwiring name change was the best one of the bunch by far |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:30:00 -
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Please tell me they didn't change the names of Target painters? |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
879
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Posted - 2012.03.16 18:32:00 -
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Potamus Jenkins wrote:killboard stealth nerf
Bots will love.
Me too. |
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Shade Millith
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:18:00 -
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I wholeheartedly agree.
This mass of name changes stinks to high heaven of "Changing names simply because we can". And is a pain in the arse.
Some of them I get, and understand. But things like the Invul make no sense. |
lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 04:03:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:Perhaps you don't care if you are treated with respect. Any company that I don't feel treats me without it gets less, or none of my business. So yes, instead of keeping all my accounts active, I'll just keep one active.
Some name changes are good, but alot of the names are already awesome. We were arguing for the names that are great, to stay that way. Thankfully they did end up keeping the best name the same : the target painters. Bland names are not an improvement.
So what you're saying is that since CCP didn't listen to you and your band of merry whiners, therefore they don't respect you?
Cindy Marco wrote:They lied to us, out right. They said they would reconsider some of the names, and they didn't. Everything went live as was originally planed. I didn't see any new naming schemes tried out on Sisi. I didn't get any new dev blogs.
They lied to us simply to placate us until they could stealth patch it onto live without complaint.
You go on to claim that CCP lied to you. As you claim, they said they would 'reconsider' some of the renaming. Despite what you would like to believe, 'reconsider' does not mean "we'll do exactly as you're asking us to do".
Dev Blog
Guess what? Looks like CCP DID tell you that they were going to make these changes in advance. What else would you like them to do? Write you a personal email to let you know that, yes they received your feedback and they decided to go ahead with the changes anyway, and explain their reasons for not listening to you? Maybe even write a new devblog about it?
Geez, the self-entitlement is going too far when you have crying about name-changes and threatening to unsub their accounts because of immaterial, non-impacting changes to the game made by producers of said game.
/Fanboy mode off |
Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.03.21 17:32:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Crucible 1.5 Patch Notes wrote: GÇóAll Kinetic missiles now have the name GÇÿScourgeGÇÖ back.
Well they lied. I can't find missiles of any sort called 'Scourge' and the only kinetic ones I see are called 'Trauma'. |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
83
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Posted - 2012.03.21 18:12:00 -
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I put a Fiat sticker on my Ferrari.
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Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
35
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Posted - 2012.03.22 08:34:00 -
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I would rather have CHARACTER renames tbh. Would improve my game experience a lot. |
OmniBeton
OmniBeton Metatech
5
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Posted - 2012.03.22 10:26:00 -
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Much cheaper that introducing new content is making users think that new content has been introduced. Expect more name changes in the future. |
Karim alRashid
Aliastra Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.03.22 10:30:00 -
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Welcome change. I remember having a trouble as a new player to remember which was "deflection", which was "dissipation", which was "scattering" and which was "dampening". Typing simply "explosive" in the search box returns all sorts of unneeded things.
The worst is, of course the ECM modules and batteries. "ECM - Ion Field", "ECM - White Noise" etc. WTF?!
Compare to "ECCM - Gravimetric", "ECCM - Magnetometric" ...
Much easier to remember.
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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
102
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Posted - 2012.03.22 10:32:00 -
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Read the dev blogs and patch notes. All questions relevant to name changes can be found in CCP's media outlets. That is all. |
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