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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:11:00 -
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As this has a major change on how everyone involved in a 0,0 corporation or alliance plays the game I thought it would be prudent to post here with CCPs intent on changing the mechanics behind 0,0 warfare.
You can find their initial post HERE
You can also find an idea that just sprouted out of my head HERE
We are all playing the same game here, I would, and I'm pretty sure that CCP would appreciate if we could keep this discussion civil and grown up in tone. If they do this wrong they break the game and I'm sure its not what anyone wants.
Kind Regards Aneu/Dean - An eve player just like the rest of you... ________________ REVIVAL
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Nooble on 06/07/2008 16:14:28 please stop posting, your awful.
edit: first and also yes there idea is ****ing terrible but when has ccp ever listened to what customers have said? They just do it how they like it and tell you to deal with it.
When Will I be able to post again ? 44 days, 9 hours, 37 minutes, 14 seconds ? 13 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, 15 seconds ? 34 days, 23 hours, 3 minutes, 25 seconds ? 42 days, 11 hours, 42 mi |
Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 06/07/2008 16:15:01
Originally by: Jake Nooble please stop posting, your awful.
Yes - this is exactly what we need when discussing breaking the game, thanks Jake...
Mods can you delete his and this post please (not the entire thread) ________________ REVIVAL
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Nooble Edited by: Jake Nooble on 06/07/2008 16:14:28
edit: first and also yes there idea is ****ing terrible but when has ccp ever listened to what customers have said? They just do it how they like it and tell you to deal with it.
To a certain extent yes, but they have listened before, we can't deny that - Why not at least try and discuss a better system because I'm pretty sure if they introduce the system they are proposing now eve will collapse. ________________ REVIVAL
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:20:00 -
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3 things:
POS need to be fixed (RE: POS: Flogging the dead horse, bugs fixed)
POS need to be changed, made less grindy, made to require skill instead
Sov system needs to be changed
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The last one of those is the really contentious one. I'd like to see less big steps and more of a gradual system (sov as a % instead of levels, wider range of structures and sizes (stuff to go below and inbetween current small,med,large,outpost) and wider range of things affecting sov, not just structures.
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mynnna
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:24:00 -
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It scares me to think how many posters in those threads may have never even set foot in 0.0 but still think they're qualified to contribute anyway.
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: mynnna It scares me to think how many posters in those threads may have never even set foot in 0.0 but still think they're qualified to contribute anyway.
Exactly what I thought which is why I brought it here. CCP should listen exclusively to the people who use 0.0. ________________ REVIVAL
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Jake Nooble
White Nova Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:40:00 -
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Am I the only one who doesnt give a crap about current mechanics? Sure its annoying but its a ***** to put them up so it should be a ***** to take them down. There is no system that is fair to everyone ( TZ wise ) etc. Certain stuff should be tweaked with the current setup like locking strontium times for example so you cant time it for your prime time all the time.
But this suggested method of capture a gate is just awful, once again clearly shows that none of the development team are involved in 0.0 alliances anymore if they think that, that is a great idea...
When Will I be able to post again ? 44 days, 9 hours, 37 minutes, 14 seconds ? 13 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, 15 seconds ? 34 days, 23 hours, 3 minutes, 25 seconds ? 42 days, 11 hours, 42 mi |
Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus CCP should listen exclusively to the people who use 0.0.
Why, when hundreds of people in lowsec, and highsec use POS and moon mining as a source of income?
Everyone who uses POS has the right to have their voice heard.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: mynnna It scares me to think how many posters in those threads may have never even set foot in 0.0 but still think they're qualified to contribute anyway.
Not much different from your ppl's posts in the nerf nanos threads tbh.
- Gob
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Aneu Angellus CCP should listen exclusively to the people who use 0.0.
Why, when hundreds of people in lowsec, and highsec use POS and moon mining as a source of income?
Everyone who uses POS has the right to have their voice heard.
Verone, are you serious? They are changing 0,0 mechanics not POS mechanics! They are changing the SOV system... nothing to do with moon mining...
Calm down my precious ________________ REVIVAL
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus Calm down my precious
You're the one who needs to calm down.
Alternatively, stop posting until you can do so coherently.
Failing that, stick to flaming BoB. That's pretty much all you've done and been good for here for the last few years.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 06/07/2008 16:46:25
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: mynnna It scares me to think how many posters in those threads may have never even set foot in 0.0 but still think they're qualified to contribute anyway.
Not much different from your ppl's posts in the nerf nanos threads tbh.
- Gob
Yes- Helpful, there is a topic here...
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Aneu Angellus Calm down my precious
You're the one who needs to calm down.
Alternatively, stop posting until you can do so coherently.
Failing that, stick to flaming BoB. That's pretty much all you've done and been good for here for the last few years.
Not going to get into this with you Verone, there is a topic here, if you didn't read the linked post then its not my issue, sorry. ________________ REVIVAL
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Heptameron
Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Verone Everyone who uses POS has the right to have their voice heard.
No mate have to disagree with this one...Everyone who pays their money to play the game has the right to have their voice heard.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Heptameron
Originally by: Verone Everyone who uses POS has the right to have their voice heard.
No mate have to disagree with this one...Everyone who pays their money to play the game has the right to have their voice heard.
Oh I agree, without a doubt. I was simply talking about this issue, and those who feel the need to comment on it.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Heptameron
Originally by: Verone Everyone who uses POS has the right to have their voice heard.
No mate have to disagree with this one...Everyone who pays their money to play the game has the right to have their voice heard.
True to an extent, but I for instance wouldn't get involved in a discussion about creating Boosters or building rigs since I have no experience in either of those areas.
But anyway, can we stop discussing semantics and get on with discussing what a disgusting idea this is from CCP... and how to make it better... ________________ REVIVAL
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Not going to get into this with you Verone, there is a topic here, if you didn't read the linked post then its not my issue, sorry.
/careface.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Cosy2
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2008.07.06 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus As this has a major change on how everyone involved in a 0,0 corporation or alliance plays the game I thought it would be prudent to post here with CCPs intent on changing the mechanics behind 0,0 warfare.
You can find their initial post HERE
You can also find an idea that just sprouted out of my head HERE
We are all playing the same game here, I would, and I'm pretty sure that CCP would appreciate if we could keep this discussion civil and grown up in tone. If they do this wrong they break the game and I'm sure its not what anyone wants.
Kind Regards Aneu/Dean - An eve player just like the rest of you...
post here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=channel&channelID=3523
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Revival.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cosy2
Originally by: Aneu Angellus As this has a major change on how everyone involved in a 0,0 corporation or alliance plays the game I thought it would be prudent to post here with CCPs intent on changing the mechanics behind 0,0 warfare.
You can find their initial post HERE
You can also find an idea that just sprouted out of my head HERE
We are all playing the same game here, I would, and I'm pretty sure that CCP would appreciate if we could keep this discussion civil and grown up in tone. If they do this wrong they break the game and I'm sure its not what anyone wants.
Kind Regards Aneu/Dean - An eve player just like the rest of you...
post here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=channel&channelID=3523
I don't think you realize how few people read that sub-forum... ________________ REVIVAL
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Cosy2
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: Cosy2
Originally by: Aneu Angellus As this has a major change on how everyone involved in a 0,0 corporation or alliance plays the game I thought it would be prudent to post here with CCPs intent on changing the mechanics behind 0,0 warfare.
You can find their initial post HERE
You can also find an idea that just sprouted out of my head HERE
We are all playing the same game here, I would, and I'm pretty sure that CCP would appreciate if we could keep this discussion civil and grown up in tone. If they do this wrong they break the game and I'm sure its not what anyone wants.
Kind Regards Aneu/Dean - An eve player just like the rest of you...
post here http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=channel&channelID=3523
I don't think you realize how few people read that sub-forum...
i know that but posting this here is like "look at me i have to say something important" and now your arguments lose force ...... put a link on your signature or a link at the end of your post like a signature(soo more ppl can see it) and post on the forum like mad
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.06 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cosy
I don't think you realize how few people read that sub-forum... i know that but posting this here is like "look at me i have to say something important" and now your arguments lose force ...... put a link on your signature or a link at the end of your post like a signature(soo more ppl can see it) and post on the forum like mad
Pls dont encourage him to post more.
eve-dev - making a good thing better
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: knifee
Originally by: Cosy
I don't think you realize how few people read that sub-forum... i know that but posting this here is like "look at me i have to say something important" and now your arguments lose force ...... put a link on your signature or a link at the end of your post like a signature(soo more ppl can see it) and post on the forum like mad
Pls dont encourage him to post more.
Why not? perhaps he finally gets banned =p
- Gob
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.06 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/07/2008 18:18:27 Hey,
Can't we change sov to reflect alliances that fail because Aneu Angellus is in it? You know, Aneu joins you and your alliances stront starts ticking till it either the allianes falls apart or Aneu leaves? --
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.07.06 18:22:00 -
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If you get rid of or change something about a game, something else will reveal itself as just as problematic...
One major source of the percieved boredom, is the fact that pos-warfare inevitably ends up being a huge blob vs. inanimate object. Not all pos-warfare is like that, but given the choice, I think most FCs would opt for enough dreads to finish the pos in one cycle, rather than two.
With sovereignity being tied directly into the number of onlinetowers in a given system, it is no wonder that tactics have developed the way they have.
There are many, lenghty discussions on the subject in the correct forum.
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.06 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
I don't think you realize how few people read that sub-forum...
That's because it's full of 100 page threads of irritating theorycraft (like this post prolly aspires to be) with very little bearing on the actual playing of the game.
At least caod posts are short, even if some of the threads aren't!
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Conq Er
Sweetrock Mining
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Posted - 2008.07.06 19:08:00 -
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They already fixed it. It's called Faction Warfare. Don't like POS bashing? Need more skirmishes instead of fleet battles. Leave your alliance (possibly failed alliance) and join a faction.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.06 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Conq Er They already fixed it. It's called Faction Warfare. Don't like POS bashing? Need more skirmishes instead of fleet battles. Leave your alliance (possibly failed alliance) and join a faction.
This would be fine if they changed it so that your corp could elect to join a single faction and then just go with that rather than having to wrry about standings and so on.
Dont have anything useful to add about the original topic, I have not a good word to say about any pos/capital related subjects.
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.07.06 19:58:00 -
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Locked.
Please don't cross-post.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang |
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