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Karismao Gallente Third Return - Talons	Posted - 2008.07.06 21:28:00 - [1] Dear Sons and daughters of the Matar Republic. The war has now raged on for multiple weeks, and it is time to have a look at where it has brought us. The beginning of war, was a bit hectic. New capsuleers joined the cause without really having an idea of what it demanded of them. Various enormous battles raged in the Auga system, not very organized until several experienced Fleet Commanders stepped up, quickly leading our forces to the first huge victory - The Kourmonen system. It quickly became clear, that to be successfull in the expansion of the Republic, we needed to keep our rear systems safe from a high ammount of Amarr fleets. At its climax, we had 20 contested Minmatar systems. This was taken care of as more Tribalists heard our distress calls, and set out to defend those systems. The number was quickly brought down to a bearable ammount, and has been kept patrolled by our fleets since. Amarr has yet to be succesfull in capturing one of our systems. As our glorious Fleet Commanders kept on organizing our fleets, pushing forward, Amarr systems fell into our hands at a fast pace, liberating ensalved minmatars from their suppressors. Reports of systems falling, became everyday news. The cold facts do not lie, Matar Militia has captured 8 Amarr Systems so far, and lost none. The morale of Amarr seemed broken, large Amarr fleets became less. This lead our FC's to try and venture into Gallente Federation space to support our brothers and sisters of the Federation. Sadly, there was much miscommunication between the Matar FC's and those of Gallente, which resulted in many failed campaigns. I strongly urge the Gallente Federation commanders, to join up with any of our fleets when we set out to aid you. If we do not work together, the vast military might of the Caldari, will overcome us. Matar Militia has not been able to capture an Amarr system for some time, which is very unfortunate, as we still have many enslaved kins to rescue. The Amarr enslavers, might see this time as an opportunity to re-organize their troops. WE shall not give them the pleasure of wining more battles, like the one they won in Amamake. I believe in your commitment, my fellow pilots, and with the brute force we are so famous for and the superior battlefield tactics from our glorious Fleet Commanders, we shall drive the Amarr out of their remaining territories. Death to Amarr!!! Karismao - Valklear General - Tribal Liberation Force
Elex Akat Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:48:00 - [2] The FDU would really appreciate it if the Minmatar would assist us in capping systems since you seem to be so adept at it. We have plenty of firepower but everyone would rather kill the Caldari then hunt for their bases. Join FDU Complex Command and tell your friends to do it so we can coordinate the effort.
Sepherim Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris	Posted - 2008.07.07 02:01:00 - [3] The war is long, and for several days already we have been scoring more points, which means more ships destroyed, more contested systems protected, and more minmatarr systems placed in contested. The war has just begun, Minmatarr. Ordo Quaesitoris Forum
Nachshon Caldari 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing	Posted - 2008.07.07 05:14:00 - [4] Excellent insights, General. We need to step up the taking of systems. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom My v
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.07.07 07:06:00 - [5] The campaign for the tribal side has been nothing but amazing. We have liberated many systems, held the field of nearly every battle, I can only thank the soldiers that I have commanded for these victories, for it is on thier wings that freedom flies. On a personal note, I am pleased to report that my own corporation has dealt in excess of 8 billion ISK worth of damages to the combined force of Amarrian, Caldari and CVA, suffering less than one billion in damages. I have seen many "golden fleets" turned to smoldering hulls, and many slavers leave flee from battle in capsules--if they are lucky. Viva Freedom, Matar Victor. Recruitment: [ANTI]
Karismao Gallente Third Return - Talons	Posted - 2008.07.07 14:53:00 - [6] Originally by: MirrorGod Edited by: MirrorGod on 07/07/2008 12:29:00 The campaign for the tribal side has been nothing but amazing. We have liberated many systems, held the field of nearly every battle, I can only thank the soldiers that I have commanded for these victories, for it is on thier wings that freedom flies. On a personal note, I am pleased to report that my own corporation has dealt in excess of 8 billion ISK worth of damages to the combined force of Amarrian, Caldari and CVA, suffering less than one billion in damages. I have seen many "golden fleets" turned to smoldering hulls, and many slavers flee from battle in capsules--if they are lucky. Viva Freedom, Matar Victor. Aye, it is no secret that you are one of the people I have in mind when I speak so highly of our fleet commanders. If the Amarr just had such experienced leaders, we might find glory on the field, rather than chasing routing forces. I bow to you in respect.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.07.07 15:13:00 - [7] Originally by: MirrorGod The campaign for the tribal side has been nothing but amazing. I guess it has become time for me to say what I expect many are waiting for: I have to admit I and others seem to have been wrong in the prediction that a war with the Amarr Empire would be an immediate and total catastrophe. While I still do not know if we can win this in the end, we have in the very least started it off very well. Good job, and patience for the long war ahead to everyone on the field. Elsebeth -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.07.07 15:22:00 - [8] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon I have to admit I and others seem to have been wrong in the prediction that a war with the Amarr Empire would be an immediate and total catastrophe. While I still do not know if we can win this in the end, we have in the very least started it off very well. I think the massive losses suffered by the Imperial Navy at Mekhios may have leveled the playing field somewhat. It may even have given the Matari an advantage, though how long that will last remains to be seen. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.07.07 16:12:00 - [9] Stitcher, I believe you will find Amarr arrogance will, of course, be their downfall. Given Sepherim's blatantly false statement, I think it speaks very clearly of their self-opinion: there is no weakness, and anyone who says so, including reality, is wrong. There is no disadvantage - because a Minmatar fleet was defeated above Mekhios, there was no catastrophe, the Amarr Militia are not losing systems to the Matari - everything is fine, nothing is ruined. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.07.07 16:16:00 - [10] Andreus, I think it would be a great mistake to underestimate the Empire high command as sharing the brain-washed thinking of their subjects in matters political and military. It is my guess that the top there does understand the situation and is not sitting idly by in a rosy fantasy of supremacy, but instead working to achieve that. If their arrogance can be the downfall of the Amarr, so can our current arrogance be the downfall of ours. We have won a couple of battles. The war, however, has hardly began. Confidence kills. Else -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.

Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.07.07 16:25:00 - [11] Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 07/07/2008 16:25:15 Point taken, but then again, the Amarr Empire's military intelligence failed to gather even an inkling of the Elder Fleet before it fell upon them - and during the battles in Amarr space, right up until the arrival of Sarum, the losses taken by any of the three fleets or the Defiants were utterly negligeable. CONCORD was, of course, given its superior technology, able to seriously maim the fleet that attacked it, but even it was still eventually overwhelmed. To be honest, it was only Sarum's arrival with her mysterious superweapon that levelled the playing field enough for the Imperial Navy to push the fleet out of Amarr space. What exactly, pray tell, would the Amarr have done if the heretical failed heir Sarum had not turned up? ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.07.07 16:44:00 - [12] Edited by: Stitcher on 07/07/2008 16:44:34 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Point taken, but then again, the Amarr Empire's military intelligence failed to gather even an inkling of the Elder Fleet before it fell upon them To be fair, they caught everyone off guard, including the Minmatar. I don't think that it's really fair to try and say that Imperial military intelligence "failed" when the fleets in question were apparently constructed in the utmost secrecy. The success of the Elder fleet's covert constructions is, to my mind, more a success of their ability to hide it, than a failure of anyone else to uncover it. One man's success does not have to mean that another man has failed. I'd say that to imply that the Amarr could possibly have seen it coming actually insults the competence of the people who managed to construct three fleets of titans, dreadnoughts and support vessels in total secrecy. Quote: What exactly, pray tell, would the Amarr have done if the heretical failed heir Sarum had not turned up? Moot point. She did, thereby rendering the question irrelevant. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.07.07 16:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Stitcher I'd say that to imply that the Amarr could possibly have seen it coming actually insults the competence of the people who managed to construct three fleets of titans, dreadnoughts and support vessels in total secrecy. Not when the Amarr routinely claim total superiority, and especially when they use this "fact" as a "justification" as to why the Minmatar Republic should not be a sovreign entity. A statement of this magnitude, especially when it is used to justify acts of torture, enslavement and wholesale genocide, requires incontravertable evidence. Evidence that the Amarr simply cannot provide. Originally by: Stitcher Moot point. She did, thereby rendering the question irrelevant. I don't really think so - I believe it is, in fact, an important hypothesis - if not for their much-vaunted messiah, what would have happened? It's an assessment of their military strength in general, rather than just a pleasant fantasy. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander Asuka Smith > not even goons can make 30m ISK this interesting.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.07.07 17:32:00 - [14] Edited by: Stitcher on 07/07/2008 17:32:22 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Not when the Amarr routinely claim total superiority, and especially when they use this "fact" as a "justification" as to why the Minmatar Republic should not be a sovreign entity. A statement of this magnitude, especially when it is used to justify acts of torture, enslavement and wholesale genocide, requires incontravertable evidence. Evidence that the Amarr simply cannot provide. I reckon you're quoting the fanatic fringe, though, not the average. Very few people, even inside the Empire, take Amarrian claims of supremacy very seriously any longer. The few who do aren't the ones in charge. The generals and admirals and politicians - the positions of power - all probably have a keen and realistic sense of what the Empire can and cannot achieve. You can't blame them for putting out propoganda regardless though, can you? Every one of the empires aggrandizes themselves, so let's not pan the Amarr for claiming to be the chosen of New Eden when pretty much everyone else is making the exact same noise. It's human nature to try and scream louder than the monkeys in the next tree. Quote: I don't really think so - I believe it is, in fact, an important hypothesis - if not for their much-vaunted messiah, what would have happened? It's an assessment of their military strength in general, rather than just a pleasant fantasy. I'd be prepared to bet that the Elder fleet would have eventually been defeated anyway, if only by sheer weight of numbers - the Imperial navy is huge, massively larger than any other spaceborne military force in the cluster. If I were to hazard a quick and somewhat uneducated guess, I'd have said that the elder fleets would earn short-term victories, at the expense of knowing full well that a hammer blow was coming in the form of the slow, unwieldy bulk of the Navy. The Amarr military machine is a juggernaut - slow to get moving, impossible to stop once up to speed. Basically, I reckon that the exact same thing would have happened regardless of Lady Sarum's presence - the invading fleet is weakened and damaged during the initial clash with the first defensive wave, then shattered by the slow but mighty second counterattack wave. That's effectively what happened anyway, except that the counterattack was slightly... exotic, and incurred less Amarrian casualties than would have been normal. If Sarum hadn't shown up, I reckon the Elders would eventually have been kicked out, but the Imperial fleet would have been badly mauled in the fight, reducing its effective ability to defend the Empire. As things stand, its abilities as a fighting force haven't been that badly reduced. But personally, I'm not a fan of speculating about what COULD have been. Lady Sarum did arrive, and resolved the situation in a manner that left far more Amarr ships intact than might otherwise have survived. I'd rather speculate on the strategic situations arising from what actually happened, than what could have happened. - Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Karismao Gallente Third Return - Talons	Posted - 2008.07.08 11:37:00 - [15] As much as i dont like it, I agree with Sticher. Lets us not wonder what could have happened in the past, but look at the task at hand.
AsheRaven Minmatar The Stormcrow Milita	Posted - 2008.07.08 15:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Originally by: MirrorGod The campaign for the tribal side has been nothing but amazing. I guess it has become time for me to say what I expect many are waiting for: I have to admit I and others seem to have been wrong in the prediction that a war with the Amarr Empire would be an immediate and total catastrophe. While I still do not know if we can win this in the end, we have in the very least started it off very well. Good job, and patience for the long war ahead to everyone on the field. Elsebeth Overall victory, whilst the goal, is not the end al of Matari resistence. There are those of us who won't rest until the blood of the Amarr equals if not ecesses that of the blood of the Matari spilled at their corrupt hands. I for one hope for a good and long war. It means more meat to eat and blood to drink to at the Blood Clan's table. ---------------------------------
Kaede Yuunai Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.07.08 16:41:00 - [17] Edited by: Kaede Yuunai on 08/07/2008 16:42:42 Originally by: AsheRaven Overall victory, whilst the goal, is not the end al of Matari resistence. There are those of us who won't rest until the blood of the Amarr equals if not ecesses that of the blood of the Matari spilled at their corrupt hands. I for one hope for a good and long war. It means more meat to eat and blood to drink to at the Blood Clan's table. <A transmission starts, a young leather-clad, red-headed Verokior woman appears, eyes covered in a white bandage and her left arm slowly retracted from the button beside the camera recording the transmission. She appears to be angry with something, lips retracted into a snarl as she speaks. A sharp but controlled voice creates the words comming out her mouth> What exactly, do you think your doing, pilot? I've listened to the transmited messages of this summit for a while now, and after listening to the vocalized version of your message, I have a few things I wish to say... <She pauses a moment for effect> The egosentric desire for death to ones hated enemies is easy to state for one who can't die. I'm an infomorph too, though a very young one, but I seem to have more sense than some of my fellow infomorphs here... <She sharply moves her head from left to right and then back to focusing on the camera's location, despite her obvious inability to look anyone in the eyes> ...so perhaps it's just the ignorance speaking here, but as far as I know the war ends when the offencive ability of our enemies are nil. Not when you have exacted revenge on every single one of your enemy's people, and thus becoming what you hate. <There is a pause as she hangs her head, appearing to focus on a point on the floor. After thinking for a moment on her next line, she again focus on the camera's location though she's a tad off, to the left. She goes on, voice still sharp> The navies you fight are run by normal crews. They die by the hundreds every time one explodes. To a war-craving man like yourself that should suffice. Even the Imperial capsuleers who would try and stop you should be all you need, far as vengence goes. What will you do, if Amarr Prime falls and we stand triumfant, some time in the distant future? Will you endeavor to kill them all, for the crimes of their leaders and religious proclaimers? I sure hope not. Because we are better than that. We are not the zealot's in charge of the Empire, we are Matari! For centuries we suffered under their lashes, and now that the time for retribution has arrived we must remember what was done to us! We can not afford to become them! We can not be as ignorant, as false, as vile, as weak of will to understand or tolerate. Leave the defenceless Amarr alone to live. Only then will we truly be better than them. Only then will we truly be free of their shadow. <Her anger seemingly spent, the woman stretch out an arm and cut the feed>
AsheRaven Minmatar The Stormcrow Milita	Posted - 2008.07.08 17:05:00 - [18] Ah the exuburance of Youth. There is much innocence in those angry eyes, and so much as yet to understand. Before the ashe Raven of old died and this form you see before you came into being, I too once thought like you. An idealogy of war for the greater good. As I aged, my old body withered and died with the Vitoc Virus taking hold I still remained firm and ahold of such crumbling dreams in the face of reality. One could not obtain freedom through the mixture of diplomacy and war. Limiting the flow of blood woould only contiune a tide of apathy. The horrors of war are a window tothe soul, and yes I desire it so very much. I died in physcial form myself, nothing remains of the old body or form. This face you see now is not the same I once war, thanks to the gentic manipullations of the treachouros Neris Sisterhood. When I saw my old body I fed on it, and it opened my eyes to a galaxy at war. Awashed in such savagry that the truth would finally be revealed. I feed on the blood and meat of my enemies literaly everyday. it reminds me of what I must become for the Galaxy to change, for better or worse. Child, this is an age of monsters, demons and such savagry that unless you can face them even become them for the greater good, you will forever remain apathetic, angry and lost. Fight your war your way. Seek an end to it if you must, but an end to the savagry will only bring back the status quo. There can be and must be only one outcome for change to happen. Death must be the overriding influence in the Galaxy. Demons and monsters must exert their plague to ultimately cleanse. I will no longer pretend to be that which i am not. i left the heart of a man a year ago, and followed the path of monsters. ---------------------------------
Funkcikle Gallente MicroFunks	Posted - 2008.07.10 12:28:00 - [19] /me climbs out from HUGE pile of Calamari corpses " You can capture systems, Way kewl!"
Sallera Zephyr Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.07.10 15:00:00 - [20] ... "Calamari"? Have you been taking lessons from Ashe, by chance?

Shern Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.07.10 17:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Kaede Yuunai [Will you endeavor to kill them all, for the crimes of their leaders and religious proclaimers? I sure hope not. Because we are better than that. We are not the zealot's in charge of the Empire, we are Matari! For centuries we suffered under their lashes, and now that the time for retribution has arrived we must remember what was done to us! We can not afford to become them! We can not be as ignorant, as false, as vile, as weak of will to understand or tolerate. Leave the defenceless Amarr alone to live. Only then will we truly be better than them. S'wise words. The minmatar do terrible things in the name of 'justice' and must learn to stop.
3ll3 Gallente Tranquillity Nation	Posted - 2008.07.10 18:26:00 - [22] I hjave been floundering around blindly unable to find or locate agents to apply my skills since joining th emilta and all attempts to ask for advice have been ignoured in the milta channles. So I'm doing what I should have done in the first place and ask here for some one to give me a little guidance. I know war is chaos but the milta channle is beyond chaos most the time. It make 3' a Sad Bunny!
Nachshon Caldari 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing	Posted - 2008.07.11 01:24:00 - [23] Originally by: 3ll3 I hjave been floundering around blindly unable to find or locate agents to apply my skills since joining th emilta and all attempts to ask for advice have been ignoured in the milta channles. So I'm doing what I should have done in the first place and ask here for some one to give me a little guidance. I know war is chaos but the milta channle is beyond chaos most the time. It make 3' a Sad Bunny! There are agents at militia stations. But the missions are tough - I recommend finding a buddy. Maybe sometime when we're both active, we can run missions with each other. We run a few missions for the TLF, then we go over to Gallente space and run them for the FDU. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom My v
Karismao Gallente Third Return - Talons	Posted - 2008.07.11 16:13:00 - [24] War is last resort to a conflict, and is only used when the parties of the conflict cant reach common ground. To end this war, certain demands have to be met as minimum. Demands that the Amarr Empire as of yet, have shown no intentions of even thinking about meeting. A start could be an apology to all enslaved minmatars, formerly enslaved minmatars, and their families. This apology has to come from Sarum herself. Furthermore all currently enslaved minmatar would have to be set free, immidietly. Next, it would be nice to see some kind of compensation paid out to the families of the minmatars that died in captivity. We salute any diplomatic negotiations, but if Amarr cannot even force themselves to consider the possibility that enslaving a whole race might have been the root to all of this mess, we arent gooing to see any progress whatsoever. It is beyond my comprehension, how anyone can accuse Minmatars of being too brutal in the name of "justice" when as of this very moment, humans with matar origin is till being held captive against their free will. Amarr is simply, guilty of crimes against humanity... and as long as they will not face their guilt, there will never be peace again.
BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.11 17:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Karismao It is beyond my comprehension, how anyone can accuse Minmatars of being too brutal in the name of "justice" when as of this very moment, humans with matar origin is till being held captive against their free will. sight Thing is, if the ones wishing to free these people do so by exterminating all of the Amarr before them, they not only sink to the level of their debase foes, they sink below that. Because, being treated like worthless trash to be hated, beaten, mistreated and hurt, does NOT grant the right to do so in return, it simply grants the excuse. An excuse to be a moral-deprived murderer due the fact you enemy is just that. And it won't float, at all. If you wish to be better than the Amarr in a moral sense, you need to prevent the same kind of inhumane treatment to be returned, if you don't, you no better, and the right to complain on the Amarr will be gone. Originally by: Karismao Amarr is simply, guilty of crimes against humanity... and as long as they will not face their guilt, there will never be peace again. The murderous freedom fighters who would harm anyone even remotely involved in anything slave-trade like perform crimes agains humanity too, and they too should face their guilt. O wait, that's right. They have none, they hate the Amarr who did this to them, so it's okay, is it not? Miss. Karismao, you need to realize the Matari need to show restraint. Free the slaves, and, by all means, kill the slaver in the process. I doubht I can convince you otherwise and frankly I don't want to really. Just don't comit mass-murder of Amarrians due the fact they are Amarrians. Because that is simply wrong. Sig source
Karismao Gallente Third Return - Talons	Posted - 2008.07.11 17:37:00 - [26] I do not seek any moral high grounds, as both races has made mistakes. Cold facts still remains... Amarr will not give up enslaving of minmatars through diplomacy, so the only solution is forcing them. If they were to give up the slaves, I am sure that the vast majority of freedom fighters will stand down.
3ll3 Gallente Tranquillity Nation	Posted - 2008.07.11 18:22:00 - [27] Originally by: Nachshon Originally by: 3ll3 I hjave been floundering around blindly unable to find or locate agents to apply my skills since joining th emilta and all attempts to ask for advice have been ignoured in the milta channles. So I'm doing what I should have done in the first place and ask here for some one to give me a little guidance. I know war is chaos but the milta channle is beyond chaos most the time. It make 3' a Sad Bunny! There are agents at militia stations. But the missions are tough - I recommend finding a buddy. Maybe sometime when we're both active, we can run missions with each other. We run a few missions for the TLF, then we go over to Gallente space and run them for the FDU. I wold like that, thank you, I shall contact you ASAP and make preperations, it's going to be so good to be able to do these missions.

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