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Eina Shadowlancer
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.01 12:51:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Eina Shadowlancer on 01/08/2008 15:05:07
Here comes my final version, I think
Original text
EveMon
Focuses early on crusiers and Gallente.
After Gallente is filled up to a HAC it trains Caldari Covert Ops and Recons
Gets almost perfect Command ship skills
Unlocks Marauders
Pros
Have almost perfect support skills in most senses of the word, only the mining ones are missing. With a little extra time you can get a mind link of your choice. Which would boost your fleet/gang even more.
Have almost perfect Hybrid/Missile skills and almost perfect Armor/Shield tanking skills
Cons
Doesn't unlock very many of the T2 ship types, it misses Black Ops, Interdictors, Heavy Interdictors, (Electronic attack frigates are about 10 minutes away).
Ps. Take your time to decide what plan you follow, make sure it feels good for you and fits the kind of character you want.
Ps 2. I think I might have included some skills that have not been seeded, the ones concerned with boosters. (I have not heard much about them, do they work?)
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Runewitch
Gallente
Legion Federation
The Black Isle
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Posted - 2008.08.01 18:33:00 -
[92]
Ok, I think time's up. The participants thus far (please tell me if I've missed anyone):
Receiving 32 Mil ISK: (I count eight entries)
Lance Fighter
Herschel Yamamoto
Solariian Lytebringer
VariableK
Demon Azrakel
Toharan
Chickai Hawk
Eina Shadowlancer
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I'm going to log in now to send out the initial payment. Please let me know if you haven't received your share or if I've missed anyone. Otherwise, good luck to you all and hope you receive an even larger chunk of my wallet 
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Florio
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:01:00 -
[93]
wow, interesting. wouldn't get me delegate one of EVE's most pleasurable tasks!
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Eina Shadowlancer
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:02:00 -
[94]
Np, I just don't have EveMon at work (If someone could fix EveMon/Mono so that EveMon works on Mac OS X I would love you)
Thanks for the ISK too, I hope you find a plan you like
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.02 13:43:00 -
[95]
I unfortunately don't have time to write up my opinions on the plans properly right now, but I will tomorrow. You might want to edit the OP to ask random readers for discussion, maybe include links to the EveMon plans.
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Krissam
Caldari
Nomads
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.08.02 15:53:00 -
[96]
 Originally by: Eina Shadowlancer
Np, I just don't have EveMon at work (If someone could fix EveMon/Mono so that EveMon works on Mac OS X I would love you)
Thanks for the ISK too, I hope you find a plan you like
i just wish i could make it run on ubuntu :/
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.03 01:13:00 -
[97]
I wondered where th e eeee why the hell is my backspace not working?
Anyway
I wondered where the 32m came from, thanks.
Are you done wtf now it works again.
Are you done with everything, or are you still chosing a plan?
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Runewitch
Gallente
Legion Federation
The Black Isle
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Posted - 2008.08.03 10:41:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Runewitch on 03/08/2008 10:42:11
Still choosing indeed :) At work atm, so I'm not able to do too much in terms of careful evaluation.
If no one debates the merits of their propsal, I might change the terms of the 250 mil ISK payout only slightly. I propose sticking everyone's names in a hat and drawing the winner. Does this sound fair, or is it too far askew from the original intent? There are plans I certainly prefer to use (and will use over others), but tbh, I'll probably use something of a hybrid working of 2-4 of your plans to suit my tastes.
If anyone opposes, I will rescind this propsal and just stck to the original plan; give the proceeds to the plan I deem most suitable to my needs. If possible, I'd like to payout within the next 12 hrs, so let me know asap. I'll try to do a comprehensive wrapup at that time. Thanks everyone for all your hard work; I hope there's been some measure of reward in the process and be assured a lot of new players have (and hopefully continue to) benefit from your work 
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
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Posted - 2008.08.03 12:11:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Runewitch
Edited by: Runewitch on 03/08/2008 10:42:11
Still choosing indeed :) At work atm, so I'm not able to do too much in terms of careful evaluation.
If no one debates the merits of their propsal, I might change the terms of the 250 mil ISK payout only slightly. I propose sticking everyone's names in a hat and drawing the winner. Does this sound fair, or is it too far askew from the original intent? There are plans I certainly prefer to use (and will use over others), but tbh, I'll probably use something of a hybrid working of 2-4 of your plans to suit my tastes.
If anyone opposes, I will rescind this propsal and just stck to the original plan; give the proceeds to the plan I deem most suitable to my needs. If possible, I'd like to payout within the next 12 hrs, so let me know asap. I'll try to do a comprehensive wrapup at that time. Thanks everyone for all your hard work; I hope there's been some measure of reward in the process and be assured a lot of new players have (and hopefully continue to) benefit from your work
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Runewitch
Gallente
Legion Federation
The Black Isle
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Posted - 2008.08.03 12:21:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Runewitch
Edited by: Runewitch on 03/08/2008 10:42:11
Still choosing indeed :) At work atm, so I'm not able to do too much in terms of careful evaluation.
If no one debates the merits of their propsal, I might change the terms of the 250 mil ISK payout only slightly. I propose sticking everyone's names in a hat and drawing the winner. Does this sound fair, or is it too far askew from the original intent? There are plans I certainly prefer to use (and will use over others), but tbh, I'll probably use something of a hybrid working of 2-4 of your plans to suit my tastes.
If anyone opposes, I will rescind this propsal and just stck to the original plan; give the proceeds to the plan I deem most suitable to my needs. If possible, I'd like to payout within the next 12 hrs, so let me know asap. I'll try to do a comprehensive wrapup at that time. Thanks everyone for all your hard work; I hope there's been some measure of reward in the process and be assured a lot of new players have (and hopefully continue to) benefit from your work
so, those pages of explanations accompanying links in this thread, do not count as someone speaking on behalf of their proposal?
Not at all. But should you care to re-read the discussion which unfolded following the initial post, 48 hrs would be alllotted for debate on which proposal had the strongest merits against the other proposals. As there has been no debate post deadline, other options may present in which participants in the contest may feel better ( or more equitably) serves their chances for winning.
As you have not posted an entry, why such concern? I'm presenting this to the participants to guage their interest in how best to pay for their efforts.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
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Posted - 2008.08.03 12:46:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Runewitch
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Runewitch
Edited by: Runewitch on 03/08/2008 10:42:11
Still choosing indeed :) At work atm, so I'm not able to do too much in terms of careful evaluation.
If no one debates the merits of their propsal, I might change the terms of the 250 mil ISK payout only slightly. I propose sticking everyone's names in a hat and drawing the winner. Does this sound fair, or is it too far askew from the original intent? There are plans I certainly prefer to use (and will use over others), but tbh, I'll probably use something of a hybrid working of 2-4 of your plans to suit my tastes.
If anyone opposes, I will rescind this propsal and just stck to the original plan; give the proceeds to the plan I deem most suitable to my needs. If possible, I'd like to payout within the next 12 hrs, so let me know asap. I'll try to do a comprehensive wrapup at that time. Thanks everyone for all your hard work; I hope there's been some measure of reward in the process and be assured a lot of new players have (and hopefully continue to) benefit from your work
so, those pages of explanations accompanying links in this thread, do not count as someone speaking on behalf of their proposal?
Not at all. But should you care to re-read the discussion which unfolded following the initial post, 48 hrs would be alllotted for debate on which proposal had the strongest merits against the other proposals. As there has been no debate post deadline, other options may present in which participants in the contest may feel better ( or more equitably) serves their chances for winning.
As you have not posted an entry, why such concern? I'm presenting this to the participants to guage their interest in how best to pay for their efforts.
because of your wonderful personality, which is quite evident throughout this thread, of course.  |
Toharan
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Posted - 2008.08.03 14:04:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Toharan on 03/08/2008 14:04:36
Originally by: Runewitch
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If no one debates the merits of their propsal, I might change the terms of the 250 mil ISK payout only slightly. I propose sticking everyone's names in a hat and drawing the winner. Does this sound fair, or is it too far askew from the original intent? There are plans I certainly prefer to use (and will use over others), but tbh, I'll probably use something of a hybrid working of 2-4 of your plans to suit my tastes.
<snip>
Thank you for the 32 mil. I appreciate it.
First and foremost, distribute the final proceeds in whatever manner strikes you as fair. I doubt that anybody will object to any method so long as the balance goes to some combination of the entrants.
I suggest you consider dividing the remainder between the people whose plans you think you'll use. If you can assign percentages (e.g. half of person X, one quarter each of Y and Z) then do it that way. I am interested in knowing which plans you prefer (and why, even if the answer is "personal preference") as I intend to take a closer look at those plans to see what else I can learn.
Secondarily, I echo the sentiments that have been expressed earlier in thanking you for hosting this contest. It has taught me a lot and made me focus more clearly on my own goals and training regimen.
As for debating plans, I agree with a previous poster, I spoke to the merits of my plan when I wrote my summary. I do not wish to debase anybody else's work simply because they took a different approach than I did. I see merit in each of the plans, even though I read them and think "I wouldn't have done it that way."
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Eina Shadowlancer
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.03 15:33:00 -
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Yeah, I think it was a good "contest", it made me think a bit too. It's good to see other peoples skill plans and see what they think are important. But I still don't have a clear picture about what I want to do in the end, so I have to wait a bit before I train to something too large.
I think dividing the extra money is preferable to drawing from a hat, even if it is just an additional 32M to each of the participants.
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VariableK
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Posted - 2008.08.03 15:40:00 -
[104]
Edited by: VariableK on 03/08/2008 15:41:37
Hey thanks for the donation!!! I wasnt expecting anything I just thought I would try my best (first) time at it...I apologize for not refining my initial plan its just the whole RL thing...lol
Anyways I say you just stick to the original idea and give a single winner, with the plan that closest represents what you want to do with your time, all the money...(edit Im not saying this because I think its me!! Far from it...but I would give the winner a really big smile on their face!)
Besides the isk isn't what mattered here...just like what others are saying. From what I am hearing we all learned a good bit about training and planning that we didnt know before and might not have learned had we not participated..
SO wish you the best with your new plan!!!
VK! 
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Solariian Lytebringer
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.03 21:16:00 -
[105]
Thanks for the wallet bump.
I dont think anyone is too concerned with how you divvy up the prize money.... To be frank, I'm just curious which way you are leaning. A lot of the plans are very different from each other, and I just want to see how this little experiment turns out.
Originally by: Jenna Shame
I think it takes 12 minutes to send a command to the mars rovers, so basically EvE might as well have their servers on Mars when it comes to fleet combat.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.03 23:12:00 -
[106]
First off, I'd like the payouts to be based on which plans you think are best in some fashion. Toharan's plan seems about the best way of doing that IMO, if you can quantify it. I'll leave the details up to you, but so long as the money goes to some subset of the entrants I won't complain too much.
That said, because you did ask for debate, I'll at least mention my thoughts on the various plans.
Herschel Yamamoto: Perfect in every way, of course - if it wasn't, I'd have changed it by now. More seriously, I was lazy about the exact sorting of skills inside blocks, mostly inside the sub-blocks(the ones mentioned in the notes), and the skills started to really taper off in utility at the end(though that's largely intentional), but aside from that I really do think I did a pretty good job here.
Lance Fighter: Goes for interceptors really fast. Ceptors are good, of course, but there's a huge pile of really basic skills that you don't have - fitting skills, cap skills, HP skills, and the like - and ceptors do not use drones, which is by far your best tree at present. I'd rather start with Vexors - they're not as zippy, but they actually make use of your skills. You take too long to get basic missile support skills - Rapid Launch 1 is three months after your first missiles - and I don't like the presence of shield compensation skills due to the lack of EANMs(who uses passive shield resist modules?). I also think black ops are wasted on someone who will largely be avoiding playing with big alliances.
Solariian Lytebringer: I disagree with a lot of the individual skill choices. Targeting 5 before Electronics 5? The idea of training Afterburners 5 or Multitasking 4, or Projected ECM and Tracking Disruptors at all? Training both Frigate 5 and both Cruiser 5 while your only T2 ship skill is EAS 1? You train a lot of things to 5 that really don't need it - Interdictors? - and I still think Black Ops is a mistake. The lack of missile skills is a preference, but those other mistakes are fairly fundamental IMO.
VariableK: I said pretty much everything I had to say in post #40.
Demon Azrakel: You are way, way too fast off the draw on T2 medium guns. That's over a month, and it doesn't really net you all that much compared to the other things you could spend that month training. Move that whole block below Battlecruisers 4, and your plan gets a whole lot better. Aside from that, no real complaints.
Toharan: I like the annotation, and it's all well-reasoned. Some minor quibbles, of course, but I like this plan.
Chickai Hawk: The plan you linked doesn't even come close to matching the plan you described. I assume a link got corrupted somewhere along the way, but without a real copy I can't judge what you did. That said, if the file you linked is actually your plan, you should refund your initial payment out of embarrassment - it's truly awful.
Eina Shadowlancer: You throw a few skills towards the Vexor and Thorax at first, while spending most of your time on support skills. I rather like that approach. After that you're focused, dedicated, and very good at continually checking off new capabilities as soon as you can. I'm amazed at how late you leave interceptors though, and you missed some really important skills, like Hull Upgrades 5. A worthwhile contribution to the group of plans, when the others can fill holes, but not especially good on its own.
Of the plans other than my own, I think Toharan's is probably best, while Demon's and Eina's are about as good, perhaps even better, with some major-but-simple changes. Lance's is fairly good, VK's is okay, and Solariian's I've realized I don't really much like at all upon closer inspection. Chickai's described plan sounds reasonable, but without the actual plan available I can't sensibly judge it.
That's my two cents, take it for what it's worth.
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Runewitch
Gallente
Legion Federation
The Black Isle
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Posted - 2008.08.04 03:09:00 -
[107]
Ty for your patience, I'm back from work and have had a good look at everyone's plans. Basically, the way it breaks down as I see it (correct me if I'm wrong):
Lance: Deimos in no time flat with T2 Blasters. A fun plan that gets me into many ships very quickly. Despite my statement, Quote:
0 Interest in Cap ships or associated skills
, my alliance certainly does and your plan does give a good launchboard to caps should I change my views.
Solariian Nice focus on support skill training right from the start. Will be quite a boost for T1 ships prior to development for their T2 variants.
Herschel A strong plan that goes for the gusto with strong fitting and engineering skills. This is so important to new pilots; I just lost 50 mil worth of Brutix to a Neut Domi while omw to a pvp OP. This, despite carrying 800 charges in a cap booster. Had I better skills in this dept, perhaps I could have made it back to the gate and survived long enough for the jump. Rambling aside, a well thought out plan and a solid contender for the prize. Nothing is rushed, everything is in its due time.
VariableK Early focus on navigation and gunnery skills. Will definitely get into (and out of) trouble early on. Gets me into a Nighthawk before a Raven (I've had great success with Nighthawks in the past). A fun plan that differs from the others.
Demon Gets climbing up the Caldari tree early on. Provides mission-running options should I go into receivership without much cost. T2 weapons across 3 platforms (Heavy Assault Missiles/Hybrids/Drones) well within the first year.
Toharan Another brilliant plan with many T2 modules trained up very quickly. T2 tank, capacitor and focus on drones (my strong suit) off the hop. Delays gratification for getting into T2 ships until skills needed to fly them properly are trained. This is not a negative by any means as many newbs, (as myself when I have money to burn - see my dead Brutix), rush into ships they cannot properly fly.
Chickai Hawk Multifaceted, getting support and fitting skills out of the way. Provides mission (COSMOS) running options later on if pvp becomes draining (esp financially :) ).
Eina I love this plan. Modular, allows for options to deal with changing circumstances and playstyles. Well thought and reasoned. HAC's and Recons with T2 Heavy and Sentry drones well within a year. A solid contender for the money as well.
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Now comes the difficult choice. As the majority of your ( I think pretty much all of you, anyhow) have stated that the final prize is not as important as the process, here is what I'm going to do. I've decided on using three plans provided by Herschel, Toharan and Eina. As I will use a combination of all three, all three of you will receive a share of the payout. As none of you have objected to sharing the sum, I will up the payout to 150 mil ISK each (for a total of 450 mil ISK). I hope this is equitable, and I apologize to every else who put the effort in.
Your plans all had strengths; the winning plans will suit my needs best as I can forsee at this time. I really thank everyone for making this project a success; many new players have viewed this post and hopefully our efforts will go to creating stronger, more focused players to fill the ranks of your corps and alliances. In time, I hope to compile your work into a tutorial primer directed towards younger players; and although the plans are Caldari and Gallente focused; there are principles and requirements which span across all racial ships.
Fly safe, my thanks and congratulations to all the participants 
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.04 05:15:00 -
[108]
Again, you seem almost foolishly generous, but I'm hardly going to complain or fault you, especially given that I've now received better than 200 mil for playing around with EveMon. Seriously though, I do think the right plans generally won, and I hope you find our advice to have been a worthwhile investment come three or four years down the road. And thank you.
Originally by: Runewitch
In time, I hope to compile your work into a tutorial primer directed towards younger players; and although the plans are Caldari and Gallente focused; there are principles and requirements which span across all racial ships.
As I said before, I might well be interested in helping out with this process. I won't guarantee anything, but drop me a line when you get started on it.
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Eina Shadowlancer
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.04 06:59:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
<chomp>
Eina Shadowlancer: You throw a few skills towards the Vexor and Thorax at first, while spending most of your time on support skills. I rather like that approach. After that you're focused, dedicated, and very good at continually checking off new capabilities as soon as you can. I'm amazed at how late you leave interceptors though, and you missed some really important skills, like Hull Upgrades 5. A worthwhile contribution to the group of plans, when the others can fill holes, but not especially good on its own.
Of the plans other than my own, I think Toharan's is probably best, while Demon's and Eina's are about as good, perhaps even better, with some major-but-simple changes. Lance's is fairly good, VK's is okay, and Solariian's I've realized I don't really much like at all upon closer inspection. Chickai's described plan sounds reasonable, but without the actual plan available I can't sensibly judge it.
That's my two cents, take it for what it's worth.
Thanks for the positive feedback, and you might be right in that Hull Upgrades V could be moved a bit earlier, it is a quite important skill for survivability since it unlocks the T2 hardeners, T2 EANMs and the corresponding increase in resistances.
I also think you made good points, and it never entered my mind that Invulnerability Fields where active until you said so. I blame my lack of shield tanking experience for that, but maybe I should remove the Shield Compensation skills from my plan too.
I thank you for taking time to review all the skill plans too, it was interesting to read what you thought about the plans and pointed things out that I wouldn't have noticed, like the Shield Compensation issue.
Originally by: Runewitch
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Eina I love this plan. Modular, allows for options to deal with changing circumstances and playstyles. Well thought and reasoned. HAC's and Recons with T2 Heavy and Sentry drones well within a year. A solid contender for the money as well.
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Now comes the difficult choice. As the majority of your ( I think pretty much all of you, anyhow) have stated that the final prize is not as important as the process, here is what I'm going to do. I've decided on using three plans provided by Herschel, Toharan and Eina. As I will use a combination of all three, all three of you will receive a share of the payout. As none of you have objected to sharing the sum, I will up the payout to 150 mil ISK each (for a total of 450 mil ISK). I hope this is equitable, and I apologize to every else who put the effort in.
I don't really know how to thank you, but it was an awesome competition. You usually don't see peoples skill plans, only the result and this way at least I gained some insight into how some other people think about the way you should skill. And some proof that I have not been doing it all wrong all the time (but my skills are a lot less focused than my plan and I have quite a bit more wasted skill points unfortunately). And it has made me check my plan, I actually have a little bit more long term one now, not three years but for a few months.
I hope my plan was useful (and even more useful with the extra hints from Herschel Yamamoto), and that you think it was worth your time doing this, because for me it was great fun.
I wish you the best of luck Runewitch in your skill training endeavors and hope you have a good time destroying ships, looting loot and podding pods, the trinity of good stuff in EVE.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.04 07:47:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Lance Fighter on 04/08/2008 07:50:39
@ Rune:I dont think you have to apologise :p im rather sure none of us regret putting the time in to make our plans (granted, i regret not spending a bit more time on it now :D ), we all had fun and learned from each other I think
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Lance Fighter: Goes for interceptors really fast. Ceptors are good, of course, but there's a huge pile of really basic skills that you don't have - fitting skills, cap skills, HP skills, and the like - and ceptors do not use drones, which is by far your best tree at present. I'd rather start with Vexors - they're not as zippy, but they actually make use of your skills. You take too long to get basic missile support skills - Rapid Launch 1 is three months after your first missiles - and I don't like the presence of shield compensation skills due to the lack of EANMs(who uses passive shield resist modules?). I also think black ops are wasted on someone who will largely be avoiding playing with big alliances.
Its all personal preference really. I personally HATE flying t1 JUNK. Nine out of ten ships (aprox, not counting shuttles) in my hangar right now are t2, including my mission ship... the last time i flew a t1 ship was to suicide someone in highsec. If I have a ceptor handy, I will take that over a cruiser any day. I also note that Rune has the basic skills to fly cruisers already. She doesnt need more more time to train those up tbh...
I blame not having support skills on the fact that I forgot most of them >.< As amarr, I use two classes of missiles: Rockets, and Heavy assault missiles. I have a total of something stupid like 1m sp in missiles altogether, and I dont really know the support skills offhand. I also think that gallente is a much better choice, and my skill plan is largely biased towards that. (always training gallente before cald stuff). About the drones... they are mainly for the ranis (which uses drones) and the ishkur (which also uses drones). I see those as some of the best parts of the gallente linup (ok, the AF's less than the ranis)... anything to maximize those is good in the beginning.
And in 3 years, i expect Black Ops ships to get a HUGE boost.... maybe actually being worth having as a toy for empire dwellers or something. Then again, we dont know where Rune is going to end up in 3 years, do we?
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Chickai Hawk
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Posted - 2008.08.04 08:25:00 -
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Well done Herschel, Toharan and Eina! Runewitch, tank you for the enjoyment your task has provided me the last 2 or so weeks. I wish you the best in your endeavours and hopefully Runewitch will be a truely awesome foe in 3 years time
Cheers,
Chickai
PS;
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Chickai Hawk: The plan you linked doesn't even come close to matching the plan you described. I assume a link got corrupted somewhere along the way, but without a real copy I can't judge what you did. That said, if the file you linked is actually your plan, you should refund your initial payment out of embarrassment - it's truly awful.
Ouch, I appreciate that my plan wouldn't be to everybody's liking but I think thats a little harsh.
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VariableK
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Posted - 2008.08.04 14:15:00 -
[112]
Yes! Congrats to all the winners and thanks again for this fun exercise! I am positive we all walked away a bit smarter for it!
Best of luck to you all!
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.04 16:18:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Chickai Hawk
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Chickai Hawk: The plan you linked doesn't even come close to matching the plan you described. I assume a link got corrupted somewhere along the way, but without a real copy I can't judge what you did. That said, if the file you linked is actually your plan, you should refund your initial payment out of embarrassment - it's truly awful.
Ouch, I appreciate that my plan wouldn't be to everybody's liking but I think thats a little harsh.
The only link I could find on this thread was in post #72, to http://www.mediafire.com/?gtyzxejtz0b which is about six years long and awful. The plan you described is three years long and reasonable. Like I said, I'm pretty sure it's a problem with a link, or perhaps with me being blind.
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Runewitch
Gallente
Legion Federation
The Black Isle
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Posted - 2008.08.04 19:14:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Chickai Hawk
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Chickai Hawk: The plan you linked doesn't even come close to matching the plan you described. I assume a link got corrupted somewhere along the way, but without a real copy I can't judge what you did. That said, if the file you linked is actually your plan, you should refund your initial payment out of embarrassment - it's truly awful.
Ouch, I appreciate that my plan wouldn't be to everybody's liking but I think thats a little harsh.
The only link I could find on this thread was in post #72, to http://www.mediafire.com/?gtyzxejtz0b which is about six years long and awful. The plan you described is three years long and reasonable. Like I said, I'm pretty sure it's a problem with a link, or perhaps with me being blind.
Lol! I think you linked to mine (it was six years long and hosted on Mediafire).
See? I really did need the help :) Thanks again everyone
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.04 19:35:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Runewitch
Lol! I think you linked to mine (it was six years long and hosted on Mediafire).
See? I really did need the help :) Thanks again everyone
I just looked at yours for the first time, and that seems to be what Chickai linked to. So yeah, money well spent.
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Chickai Hawk
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Posted - 2008.08.05 00:38:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Chickai Hawk on 05/08/2008 00:40:19
Edited by: Chickai Hawk on 05/08/2008 00:38:28
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Runewitch
Lol! I think you linked to mine (it was six years long and hosted on Mediafire).
See? I really did need the help :) Thanks again everyone
I just looked at yours for the first time, and that seems to be what Chickai linked to. So yeah, money well spent.
/faceplant
Crap, I uploaded the wrong file :( In which case, you're justified because quite frankly, I *would* be embarressed to hand that in as the final submission.
Useless now but here's my Proper one Once again, well done to the winners
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Azrakel Miner
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Azrakel Miner on 05/08/2008 14:56:09
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Demon Azrakel
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:58:00 -
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Oops, posted with alt, and I guess I completely forgot about this until I saw the 32 Mil isk in my wallet.
Thanks for the isk and congrats to the winners
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