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Trent Angelus
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.07 09:20:00 -
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I have a carrier. I'd like to make the dronebay neat and tidy with drone folders. I delete all the ones I have, add drones 12 folders to the tune of:
- 1 Warrior IIs
- 2 Lgt
- 3 Med
- 4 Hvy
- 5 Fighter
- etc etc
Surprise! When I scroll down, the folders are not in a windows explorer-ish alphanumeric list. They appear to have shuffled at random! I name the folders in 5 or 6 different ways and try to spot the pattern. I try again with everything I can think of. I offer ISK to smart people in my corp to find a pattern.
After creating folders with a name of "1" "2" "3" etc and only one type of drone in each, I notice that they always sit in the same order as they do in the root folder (before I add subfolders).
Aha! A breakthrough. So the order of the folders is preordained before they are created. I re-sort the drones in the dronebay. No change. I take them out, repackage them, and put them back in. No change. The order seems to be fixed. Now I've posted a screenshot of this order in the root drone folder, because I cannot see any kind of pattern for the life of me. Anyone who wants a challenge, please tell me why the drones are positioning themselves thus. I mean, look at the T2 lights for goodness sake.
Someone please help me... I'm doing my head in trying to understand it.
(Screenshot of problem)
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.07 09:55:00 -
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I'd be interested as well..
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Falcon Troy
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.07 10:05:00 -
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I've done exactly what you just described but with my Domi. I always name my folders such as "Beta Wing (Medium), Alpha Wing (Light), and Delta Wing (Heavy)" and tried to get them to line up by name but it never works. I've tried to see if there's a time of creation pattern or drone type pattern or something but it appears to be completely random. _____________ Hai. |
Trent Angelus
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.07 10:11:00 -
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My next test is going to be trading my complete set of drones to someone else's carrier to see if they sit in the same bizzare order. I also found the where the client actually stores the folders (its local). Cache folder, settings, char_(id number).dat
I can't make a whole lot of sense out of this file other than it has the folder names in it, and some kinda ID number for each. I renamed it to .bak, but the drones sit in the same order and folders still shuffle. ARGH!
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Trent Angelus
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.07 14:03:00 -
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Yep, my corpmate's Chimera had the exact same "order" when he loaded up my drones. What the??
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.07 14:07:00 -
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i also hate this... i hate it so much i dont fly drone ships at all (drone spesiffic ships like carriers, domis, ishtars, vexors, arbitrators etc)
hope CCP makes it possible to sort them somehow some day :) ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Arthor Dark
Gallente N.A.S.A. Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.07.07 14:17:00 -
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I tried figuring out the pattern as well. Thought it have been the order of creation, I don't know. And I have settled to naming the folders: F1, F2, F3 ... maybe I got lucky on all 3 drones boats I used that on, but it got sorted correctly. Tell me if it works for you.
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Trent Angelus
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:15:00 -
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No dice with creation order. The folders will reshuffle themselves so that the drones stay as close as possible to my screenshot no matter which order I create folders, what I put in them or what I name them. The only explanation I can think of is perhaps drones are sorted by their database ID number in the drones window.
I'm going to consider this a bug and file a report. I hope they don't knock it back...
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.08 11:19:00 -
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Oh my, I already spent hours with this.
I think it's probably not a bug, but simply bad design. I believe we have to whine a bit in the game development forum, til we get it.
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2008.07.08 11:36:00 -
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tried changing the random id of the folders that your drones sit in so they are more like 001 002 003 004 and so on then you'll know if it's connected to the id of the folder. might work might mess up your drones compleatly :D i'd have a copy of the file just incase it goes horribly wrong though
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.07.08 11:56:00 -
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If you repackage the drones they lose the information in which folder they are in, so the data is stored on the drones somewhere.
I have yet to find a way to order the folders in any meaningful way - it might be alphabetical after the DRONE name (so Warriors always come last). I haven't verified that though.
I'd also love to create folders with several drone types, i.e. 2 ECMs, 2 damagers, 1 Webber. *sigh*
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.08 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gawain Hill tried changing the random id of the folders that your drones sit in so they are more like 001 002 003 004 and so on then you'll know if it's connected to the id of the folder. might work might mess up your drones compleatly :D i'd have a copy of the file just incase it goes horribly wrong though
Perhaps its done by the order in which they were put in the drone bay? Have you tried an empty bay, adding one sort of drones, all packaged, making a folder for them, docking again and repeating?
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.08 14:47:00 -
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Not to go off topic, but is it possible to put a drone or group of drones into multiple groups? Like if I had:
Flight 1: 2x Ogre 2x Hammerhead 1x Hobgoblin
Flight 2: 5x Hammerhead
...and I wanted the Hammerheads from flight 1 to be also included in flight 2? Is this even possible? ----- http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Spectre3353 Not to go off topic, but is it possible to put a drone or group of drones into multiple groups? Like if I had:
Flight 1: 2x Ogre 2x Hammerhead 1x Hobgoblin
Flight 2: 5x Hammerhead
...and I wanted the Hammerheads from flight 1 to be also included in flight 2? Is this even possible?
Nope, not possible.
I am interested as well in this drone sortage stuff. My Domi's folders are all messed up.
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.08 15:33:00 -
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Considering that drones are one of the major weapon types in Eve, I find it really hard to believe how awful the interface is for using them. Have the devs ever suggested that they were planning on making some improvements to the drone UI? ----- http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
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