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Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:04:00 - [31] Edited by: Qui Shon on 07/07/2008 18:05:13 Sigh. Always one of these to every thread. I was expecting it, but not as the first post after mine. You were quick Originally by: Stab Wounds totally true, most these d1ckheads in the game would probably be thieves and murderers in RL if there were no laws and police. Now, that's not quite what I said, Mr Stab Wounds. I'm talking about social mechanisms, which are similar in and out of the gane. The common ass-hole is more likely to be playing 'puter games then career criminals are. Also, I think social control is more important then law enforcement, for the majority of people.
Exlegion New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:17:00 - [32] Edited by: Exlegion on 07/07/2008 18:27:29 Originally by: Zapp Brenigan Edited by: Zapp Brenigan on 07/07/2008 17:48:34 I act pretty much the same in EVE as I do in real life. I find that people use the anonymity of EVE or the internet in general to act out, because they actually want to in real life, but are scared of the consequences or don't want to admit to themselves that they are a jerk. Its probably better that they act them out here than in RL. This is my own personal opinion. If you have a different one, thats your perogative...even if your wrong. I agree. I think anonymity (such as internet anonymity) brings out a closer truth about our personalities than we'd like to admit. Internet anonymity is one of the closest environments we have to experiment on what we would be like if we were truely free to act as we wish and without consequence. I am not a psych, so obviously this is just my own personal and humble opinion. Edit: I'd just like to clarify that I don't believe that because you shoot people in-game you'd shoot people in real life. The game is designed with the intent that we shoot each other and so we do. What I'm referring to is behavior. Griefing, taking pleasure behind other's misery, taunting, ridiculing, insulting, belittling, are all examples of behaviors I specifically am referring to. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr
Fangedterror Caldari The Devils Brigade The Threshold	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:27:00 - [33] Whoa whoa You guys are NUTS! becuase i am a evil eve player makes me a potential murder in RL? Thats crazy! Could it be that i see this as a game and i dont care what happens? Brb. I need to go seal clubbing. Need some Help with EVE? -Guides -Ship Setups -People Singing for their ships -Eve Time Cards -and MORE!!!! www.eve-onlineguides.com
Valan The Fated	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:27:00 - [34] In game I tend to do the honourable thing. Out of work hanging out I'm fairly laid back. In and around work I'm your worst ever nightmare lol. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:28:00 - [35] So wait, this means fluffy carebears = fat people who like to be tapped on the head and PvP'ers = Rambo? c/d Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to mods@ccpgames.com when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:33:00 - [36] Edited by: Qui Shon on 07/07/2008 18:35:26 Originally by: Fangedterror Whoa whoa You guys are NUTS! becuase i am a evil eve player makes me a potential murder in RL? Thats crazy! I think you made this thread mainly so you could post this. The only person I saw saying something like that was Stab Wounds, and he was obviously trolling, given his name.
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:36:00 - [37] Originally by: Exlegion Edited by: Exlegion on 07/07/2008 18:27:29 Originally by: Zapp Brenigan Edited by: Zapp Brenigan on 07/07/2008 17:48:34 I act pretty much the same in EVE as I do in real life. I find that people use the anonymity of EVE or the internet in general to act out, because they actually want to in real life, but are scared of the consequences or don't want to admit to themselves that they are a jerk. Its probably better that they act them out here than in RL. This is my own personal opinion. If you have a different one, thats your perogative...even if your wrong. I agree. I think anonymity (such as internet anonymity) brings out a closer truth about our personalities than we'd like to admit. Internet anonymity is one of the closest environments we have to experiment on what we would be like if we were truely free to act as we wish and without consequence. I am not a psych, so obviously this is just my own personal and humble opinion. Edit: I'd just like to clarify that I don't believe that because you shoot people in-game you'd shoot people in real life. The game is designed with the intent that we shoot each other and so we do. What I'm referring to is behavior. Griefing, taking pleasure behind other's misery, taunting, ridiculing, insulting, belittling, are all examples of behaviors I specifically am referring to. all I can say is that these days kids are growing up with the internet, and the associated social aspects from a very early age. In an age where nothing is real and nothing is of any consequence, what is 'real'.
Raikov Vanskenski Gallente Ever Flow	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:39:00 - [38] Originally by: Frannkie i have this theory... hear me out... those of you that act like griefers / pirates in game, i wonder how many of you had a really aweful time at school and were bullied ... cause my theory is this, your too shit scared to actually stand up for yourselves in r/l so therefore, eve or any other mmo is a safe way for you to inflict anger / hurt / mistrust without the worry of getting a smack in the mouth. I am no pirate, i have never scammed and i certainly have never gone out of my way to ruin someones game time, but then again, i was never a bully, nor was i bullied ... just a curious theory... It's like he's inside of my head. Couldn't be because it's just fun...no way, not possible.
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:40:00 - [39] Edited by: Tasuric Orka on 07/07/2008 18:40:39 Originally by: Exlegion Edited by: Exlegion on 07/07/2008 18:27:29 Originally by: Zapp Brenigan Edited by: Zapp Brenigan on 07/07/2008 17:48:34 I act pretty much the same in EVE as I do in real life. I find that people use the anonymity of EVE or the internet in general to act out, because they actually want to in real life, but are scared of the consequences or don't want to admit to themselves that they are a jerk. Its probably better that they act them out here than in RL. This is my own personal opinion. If you have a different one, thats your perogative...even if your wrong. I agree. I think anonymity (such as internet anonymity) brings out a closer truth about our personalities than we'd like to admit. Internet anonymity is one of the closest environments we have to experiment on what we would be like if we were truely free to act as we wish and without consequence. I am not a psych, so obviously this is just my own personal and humble opinion. Edit: I'd just like to clarify that I don't believe that because you shoot people in-game you'd shoot people in real life. The game is designed with the intent that we shoot each other and so we do. What I'm referring to is behavior. Griefing, taking pleasure behind other's misery, taunting, ridiculing, insulting, belittling, are all examples of behaviors I specifically am referring to. Quoting this for truth, i have a hard time believing the "sweet sweet tears/empirewardeconnoobindycorp/newbiebaiting" crowd is the type of imo "good" person in real life that would for example give the class-punch bag a break. Im not surprised there is so much resistance to this idea though, it probably shows people a bit too much about themselves that they would rather be blissfully unaware about. "Yeh im a griefing jerk in eve but im actually a good person" ----------------------------------------- Eve's #1 spreadsheet warrior.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:41:00 - [40] Originally by: Exlegion I agree. I think anonymity (such as internet anonymity) brings out a closer truth about our personalities than we'd like to admit. Internet anonymity is one of the closest environments we have to experiment on what we would be like if we were truely free to act as we wish and without consequence. I am not a psych, so obviously this is just my own personal and humble opinion. Edit: I'd just like to clarify that I don't believe because you shoot people in-game you'd shoot people in real life. The game is designed with the intent that we shoot each other and so we do. What I'm referring to is behavior. Griefing, taking pleasure behind other's misery, taunting, ridiculing, insulting, belittling, are all examples of behaviors I specifically am referring to. This is a good point. It is foolish to suggest that people who shoot other people in a game about shooting people would necessarily be violent in real life. This extra level of antagonism is very suggestive of the players true personality however. Although, I would imagine that most players who behave at that extreme are kids, and thus inconsequential in real life. Perhaps that's just stereotypes colouring my view, I don't know. - DesuSigs

Metal Monster	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:44:00 - [41] In EVE: Normal, quiet, curios. Knowing that im weak. RL: Same things. But RL sux... aynway. People in general suck ass, becouse the system is shit.... Fangedterror: This what you cant do in real life, then you rather do ingame. Everbody got two sides... a good one and bad one. But afterall we need a good side for RL, or we woud be instatly put to jail or shoot at site and as some one wrote "good" that we got laws and police (lol).
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:45:00 - [42] In my real life I do full audits of stock market equities and build real world indices. The logic and programming behind the MMI is oddly similar _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Viqtoria all I can say is that these days kids are growing up with the internet, and the associated social aspects from a very early age. In an age where nothing is real and nothing is of any consequence, what is 'real'. The desire to hurt (emotionally), and the desire to help. had to add that because some people will always attempt to "misunderstand"
Noelle Fay State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:46:00 - [44] Well in EvE, I'm helpful and nice. In RL, I plunder, put houses or cars on fire, loot and steal all around. I also go up to random people telling them to hold it right there and pay me a large sum of money, or I will pod them. Yeah I got that right.. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The secret to success, whether it's women or money, is knowing when to quit. I oughta know: I'm divorced and broke.
Exlegion New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:51:00 - [45] Originally by: Crumplecorn It is foolish to suggest that people who shoot other people in a game about shooting people would necessarily be violent in real life. This extra level of antagonism is very suggestive of the players true personality however. Exactly! You said it best in less words than I did. Thank you! One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:05:00 - [46] Edited by: Riho on 07/07/2008 19:15:12 Edited by: Riho on 07/07/2008 19:08:38 what im in ingame is not what im in Real Life. thats why i play this game... to get away from real life. its great... you can be a ass and get away whit it. dont have to worry about work problems and other real life problems... even if i only get a few hours a week its enough :) i keep the game ME separate from my RL ME. its quite good as it keeps my addiction also under control :P EDIT: and those idiots who claim that ppl who act evil ingame are mentally disturbed because they want to do it in RL but cant beacuse of the rules... are the ones really the disturbed ones. its a ROLE PLAY GAME.... you are mixing real life whit a GAME... you guys should go see a shrink... eve does not equal real life. so that i killed someone in a GAME means im a potential murderer in real life.... bloody hell EDIT2: acctually when i think about it... yeah... i sometimes feel like kicking the shit out of some of the ppl i know... but i just live my anger or hate out in a game... i dont leave it in me... not health for the body or the soul. if i get the crap out of my system... i feel great and i can deal whit them **ers again so i dont burst and kick their face in. its usually the ones who keep this hate in them, that end up being the killers in real life. the just burst at one point. ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7** Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Praesus Lecti Gallente Blueprint Haus Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:12:00 - [47] I'm actually nicer in EVE than I am normally. I don't swear nearly as much, I don't go off on a rant at the drop of a hat, I'm rarely sarcastic or insulting. I'm more of a ***** outside of the game than in. /shrug
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:14:00 - [48] RL is saem as Eve. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:15:00 - [49] Originally by: Riho ... its great... you can be a ass and get away whit it. ... because they want to do it in RL but cant beacuse of the rules Hmm. Quote: so that i killed someone in a GAME means im a potential murderer in real life.... bloody hell Could the trolls drop this tired line already.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:16:00 - [50] Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Riho ... its great... you can be a ass and get away whit it. ... because they want to do it in RL but cant beacuse of the rules Hmm. Quote: so that i killed someone in a GAME means im a potential murderer in real life.... bloody hell Could the trolls drop this tired line already. cool... pull stuff out of context.... win lmao ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...

Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:21:00 - [51] Originally by: Riho cool... pull stuff out of context.... win lmao Well, it seemed to be linked as far as social control is concerned. The whole murderer in game = murderer in real life bit I consider a silly troll, so that can be ignored.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:24:00 - [52] Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Riho cool... pull stuff out of context.... win lmao Well, it seemed to be linked as far as social control is concerned. The whole murderer in game = murderer in real life bit I consider a silly troll, so that can be ignored. the way i see it i kill characters ingame whit MY character. i dont kill people in game. its ppl who think that if i shoot at them like it would be in real life should get help :P i see it as Character VS Character. ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:25:00 - [53] I'm both way nicer and much more of a ss* in EVE. For instance: I can't imagine travelling 10 blocks to pick up a new car for one of my co-workers...but 10 jumps to grab someone a new ship.... and while I've never ransomed someone in Real Life, I'd like to assume that I wouldn't kill them after they paid. Also (and I find this very ironic), I'm broke way more in-game than in real-life -- Originally by:** CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:26:00 - [54] Originally by: Riho i see it as Character VS Character. The issue is oviously not the act of "killing", it is the act of seeking to inflict emotional distress.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:33:00 - [55] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire RL is saem as Eve. Does that mean you're for sale to the highest bidder in RL as well? _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Jawas Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:42:00 - [56] Thought I knew what RL was until I realised it's just an illusion cos there's no mouse and keyboard for you to control it. I act the same both sides of the game and in RL, I'm a Security Officer if that gives you any clues. -- Sig design in training: Remaining time 30 years 20 days, 4 hours, 10 mins, 15 seconds.
Philis McCrakin	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:43:00 - [57] I spend my time doing what my boss says, while making him loads of money thanks to my endeavours. And in real life... Hang on a second....
Borg9	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:45:00 - [58] I use my real life fighting tactics in eve. I never fight someone 1v1 and I'm a cheap fighter (sand in eyes, crotch kicks,bear traps)
Pilot Abilene Caldari Serpentine Dream Theory	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:01:00 - [59] Well, the other day I noticed an elderly lady coming out of a popular supermarket in my area with a trolley full of groceries...I opened fire on her car as she was departing rendering her vehicle motionless in the car park and proceeded to take said groceries. I took off in my own car but unfortunately I was intercepted by the police who also shot up my vehicle. It was all good though, I got out and walked off up the street and had a mate pick up the groceries.
Dantes Revenge	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:04:00 - [60] Originally by: Exlegion Edit: I'd just like to clarify that I don't believe because you shoot people in-game you'd shoot people in real life. The game is designed with the intent we shoot each other and so we do. What I'm referring to is behavior. Griefing, taking pleasure behind other's misery, taunting, ridiculing, insulting, belittling, are all examples of behaviors I specifically refer to. It's easy to shoot some pixels that are being controlled by another player. Shooting them in RL is a different matter entirely and there are not so many as yu'd think who could actually do it. Ask anyone who has been in the armed forces and fought in a war, it's really hard to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger knowing you are taking a human life. So many freeze up at that point and just can't pull the trigger. As for the rest, it common for people to do that, take a look around at how frequently it goes on. How many times has this been used on you to goad you into a fight? It's quite common that this sort of behaviour is used to goad people in authority into reacting which could cost them their jobs. Don't try this on a police officer though, they can do the same back and are usually better at it. The problem is that they have the full power of the law behind them when you react

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