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Dr Gonzo999
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:09:00 -
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I have been playing eve for 7 or 8 weeks now and I have recently been using a rifter on 0.3 - 0.4 space hunting NPC's and just starting to get the feel for PVP. I also have a Thorax and Vexor but I just love the way I can orbit at 1000m with my rifter and hardly get hit by Brutix NPC.
I realise that PVP will be a different ballgame but which ship would best fit the role of getting in fast and getting in a close fast orbit to finish off your target without getting to much damage in the process.
Would an Interceptor be the way to go?
Many Thanks.
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Drezzster
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:15:00 -
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Stabber ;)
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Transmaniacon
Strike-Force-Alpha
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Drezzster
Stabber ;)
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:33:00 -
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Orbiting in close fast orbit is hardly an option in PvP - you will be webbed and killed.
There are people who pull off this trick against cruisers fitting with Interceptors with afterburners and webbers, but its a unique case - you'll be killed by drones, your capacitor will be neutralized, and you will have hard time closing in on target fast enough without MWD... and so on.
But evasion tactic in general is one of the most winning ones in PvP right now. People call it "nano***gotry" :) If you like it, go towards interceptors, and then towards fast cruiser like Stabber, and from there to Vagabong and other nanoed ships. Its a whole realm out there. It isnt easy, and it isnt a winbutton, but its very cool.
I myself lack the reaction and fast-thinking needed for this tactic, as well as GTFO moment feel :)
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Daftex Muleson
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:36:00 -
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Not quite as quick as the stabber but....how about the Rupture heavy tackler....
[Rupture, Tackle Rupture]
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Gyrostabilizer I
Gyrostabilizer I
Medium Armor Repairer II
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Stasis Webifier I
Warp Scrambler I
425mm Medium Gallium I Machine Gun, EMP M
425mm Medium Gallium I Machine Gun, EMP M
425mm Medium Gallium I Machine Gun, EMP M
425mm Medium Gallium I Machine Gun, EMP M
Compact 'Limos' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Torrent Assault Missile
Compact 'Limos' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Torrent Assault Missile
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Spectre3353
Gallente
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Saietor Blackgreen
Orbiting in close fast orbit is hardly an option in PvP - you will be webbed and killed.
There are people who pull off this trick against cruisers fitting with Interceptors with afterburners and webbers, but its a unique case - you'll be killed by drones, your capacitor will be neutralized, and you will have hard time closing in on target fast enough without MWD... and so on.
But evasion tactic in general is one of the most winning ones in PvP right now. People call it "nano***gotry" :) If you like it, go towards interceptors, and then towards fast cruiser like Stabber, and from there to Vagabong and other nanoed ships. Its a whole realm out there. It isnt easy, and it isnt a winbutton, but its very cool.
I myself lack the reaction and fast-thinking needed for this tactic, as well as GTFO moment feel :)
What in the ****ing shit are you smoking? Ignore this fella. Whether or not you get webbed and killed is based upon what/who you attack, what they are flying and whether or not they actually have a web equipped.
There are several ships that are fast and have very strong setups for getting in close and killing. The king of this is my personal favorite, the Taranis. Fly circles around people at 4500m/s and then drop in to 500m and start doing 200dps. This is the ship you are dreaming of!
Some people also fly the Malediction as a close range rocket interceptor if you prefer Amarr ships and/or missile weapons as opposed to Gallente and blasters.
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Caelum Dominus
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Spectre3353
What in the ****ing shit are you smoking? Ignore this fella. Whether or not you get webbed and killed is based upon what/who you attack, what they are flying and whether or not they actually have a web equipped.
There are several ships that are fast and have very strong setups for getting in close and killing. The king of this is my personal favorite, the Taranis. Fly circles around people at 4500m/s and then drop in to 500m and start doing 200dps. This is the ship you are dreaming of!
Some people also fly the Malediction as a close range rocket interceptor if you prefer Amarr ships and/or missile weapons as opposed to Gallente and blasters.
This.
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Grann Thefauto
Minmatar
Running with Knives
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:28:00 -
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I would definitely go for a stabber or an interceptor. Stabbers are easy to get in and if you have good skills one of the best cheap ships you can get.
All nano-ships really shine though when you get T2 gear, especially t2 guns. I would highly reccomend getting t2 ACs as soon as you can.
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Alz Shado on 09/07/2008 16:49:17
If you like the Rifter so much and have been honing your frig skills, why not make a beeline for the Assault Frigs and get a Jaguar? It's a lot quicker to train for than an interceptor, and it does the speed thing pretty well while putting out decent DPS for a small ship.
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Achura Model
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Posted - 2008.07.09 21:50:00 -
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Lol, taranis with 200 dps flies how fast? Like 6 km/s with polys? Happy meeting with vagas...
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Draeca
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.07.09 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Draeca on 09/07/2008 22:11:50
Originally by: Achura Model
Lol, taranis with 200 dps flies how fast? Like 6 km/s with polys? Happy meeting with vagas...
First of all, no one rigs taras'. They will be lost because that's the way you fly them, you either kill the opponent or die once you've engaged.
Second, most of the ships can't run from vagas anyway. I surely wouldn't engage anything with a solo ranis if there's one of those bastards around, learned this lesson the hard way with my stabber few days ago.
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Oyster Colors
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Posted - 2008.07.09 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 09/07/2008 23:04:28
Originally by: Alz Shado
If you like the Rifter so much and have been honing your frig skills, why not make a beeline for the Assault Frigs and get a Jaguar? It's a lot quicker to train for than an interceptor, and it does the speed thing pretty well while putting out decent DPS for a small ship.
While I'd rather advise a new player for the stabber (its cheaper), the jaguar is indeed a very good choice if you want to specialize for frigates and a fun ship to fly.
You can max out the required skills pretty fast, and with a solid setup it will eat any frigate or inty alive if they're foolish enough to engage (a decent jag will solo a stabber without problems btw).
With its nice tank it is much better at tackling fast cruisers like Ishtar/Vagabond (where you need to web them) than any interceptor.
Having said that, go for the stabber (YOU NEED T2 ACs), its cheaper to loose since the jag will easily be 30mill isk including fittings.
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