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Stephanie Jones
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Posted - 2008.08.18 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Good haul, mate. Congrats, and don't listen to the gnomes saying your name is irrepairably tainted. Only a fraction of Eve's players read the forums, and those that do have the memory span of goldfish.
You sound like a stand-up guy. Can we do business? *blub*
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.18 14:21:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Some people start a game and think "Here I am, playing a game. Thus my time is worthless, since nothing in the game exists. Anything I achieve is of no value either."
Achieve? Worth?
Read the fecking EULA. You own nothing. You're entitled to nothing. Your "achievements" could dissapear tommorow and you're not even entitled to get a answer why. 
What you get out of your time (and money) is fun or w/e. Pixels... if you play for virtual achievements and feel bad when they explode, I pity your gaming approach 
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Paramite Pies
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Posted - 2008.08.18 14:23:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Cpt Branko Read the fecking EULA. You own nothing. You're entitled to nothing. Your "achievements" could dissapear tommorow and you're not even entitled to get a answer why. 
What you get out of your time (and money) is fun or w/e. Pixels... if you play for virtual achievements and feel bad when they explode, I pity your gaming approach 
Did you just win twice in one post?
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:04:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Lyvv Edited by: Lyvv on 18/08/2008 13:12:01
Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Saint Lazarus Maybe if you've been playing so long you think space pixels are enough of a concern to cause physical pain you've been playing too long...
Some people start a game and think "Here I am, playing a game. Thus my time is worthless, since nothing in the game exists. Anything I achieve is of no value either."
Others, however, value their time, no matter how it is spent.
Thats absolutely right!
If I choose to spend about 6 hours per day on eve, tell the wife to go watch a movie whenever Va aka The Regulators mount up to bring death and destruction to the unsuspecting, I value my time.
Now, Id even go as far as "Gimme 20 Billion ISK and an address" and Ill take care of the little punk, if he lives within 6 hours driving distance. Would that be against CCP's EULA?
lolz I think the EULA needs an ammendment. "Thou shall not break kneecaps of ISK greedy kids in RL".
EDIT I'd document it with pictures of course, god I love my blackberry
I think the EULA needs to keep people like you out, if you actually consider hurting another human being over pixels you have serious issues.
What you get out of your time is entertainment, nothing more, its a G A M E and theives happen to have their fun by taking other peoples stuff 
And they have as much right to spend their time doin that as you have earning it -----------------

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DAalt
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:10:00 -
[65]
Tbh people slamming corp theivery often ignore the fact that numerous "stand-up" alliance leaders walk away with loads of alliance assets. Same thing with super-capital pilots. It might as well be corp theivery.
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:21:00 -
[66]
Yup, cyberman mastermind is a certified lunatic. Real life Hitman for isk? lol that's a pretty stupid occupation.
6 hours drive distance? Hell i could drive to Poland in that time (from England)
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:43:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
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Achieve? Worth?
Read the fecking EULA. You own nothing. You're entitled to nothing. Your "achievements" could dissapear tommorow and you're not even entitled to get a answer why. 
What you get out of your time (and money) is fun or w/e. Pixels... if you play for virtual achievements and feel bad when they explode, I pity your gaming approach 
I never understood why so many people have this mentality when it comes to online games. Especially when you consider that the reason most people even play MMORPGs is to amass some sort of virtual item or other (be it isk, skills, killmails etc.)
The same logic used in the "it's just pixels" argument can be applied to real life. So hand out all of your cash, it's just paper. Give out your bank account info, because what's at the bank is just pixels. That car? Just metal, plastic and glass.
The fact of the matter is that an item, be it real or virtual, is worth whatever it's owner thinks it's worth. Why? Because you won't get them to give it up for less. If someone offered you $5 for your eve account, would you take it? I guess you would, since obviously online stuff isn't really worth anything, I mean come on, it's like getting $5 for FREE 
Also, even if you're not entitled to anything, it does not mean that you can't have a sense of ownership of it. What happens to your car if you don't pay the insurance company? It's exactly the same thing. You signed a contract, stating that under certain circumstances you could have said car taken away from you, but that in no way means that you don't feel as though you "own" the car. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com ~Saint |

Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.08.18 15:54:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Cambarus
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
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Achieve? Worth?
Read the fecking EULA. You own nothing. You're entitled to nothing. Your "achievements" could dissapear tommorow and you're not even entitled to get a answer why. 
What you get out of your time (and money) is fun or w/e. Pixels... if you play for virtual achievements and feel bad when they explode, I pity your gaming approach 
I never understood why so many people have this mentality when it comes to online games. Especially when you consider that the reason most people even play MMORPGs is to amass some sort of virtual item or other (be it isk, skills, killmails etc.)
The same logic used in the "it's just pixels" argument can be applied to real life. So hand out all of your cash, it's just paper. Give out your bank account info, because what's at the bank is just pixels. That car? Just metal, plastic and glass.
The fact of the matter is that an item, be it real or virtual, is worth whatever it's owner thinks it's worth. Why? Because you won't get them to give it up for less. If someone offered you $5 for your eve account, would you take it? I guess you would, since obviously online stuff isn't really worth anything, I mean come on, it's like getting $5 for FREE 
Also, even if you're not entitled to anything, it does not mean that you can't have a sense of ownership of it. What happens to your car if you don't pay the insurance company? It's exactly the same thing. You signed a contract, stating that under certain circumstances you could have said car taken away from you, but that in no way means that you don't feel as though you "own" the car.
Awesome more RL->EvE analogys, I always say they make perfect sense applied to an MMO
You keep at it old chap its not a complete waste of time at all -----------------

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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.18 16:06:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 18/08/2008 16:06:26
Originally by: Cambarus
The same logic used in the "it's just pixels" argument can be applied to real life. So hand out all of your cash, it's just paper. Give out your bank account info, because what's at the bank is just pixels. That car? Just metal, plastic and glass.
The fact of the matter is that an item, be it real or virtual, is worth whatever it's owner thinks it's worth.
The statement above couldn't be further from the truth then it is. Without getting into discussions on the nature of worth, let's invoke a few practical examples.
(a) Do you think you can sell your car for 10 Mil $ just because you think it's "worth" that much? (b) Do you think you can buy a car you don't like for 100$ just because you think it's "worth" that much? (c) Do you think that your , say, car has some objective value which is apart from how much you like it, or do you consider your subjective opinion the only metric of "worth" on this planet?
The fact that I may not be willing to sell something I'm emotionally attached to doesn't make it "worth" more. If someone wants to buy my house for double of its value and I don't want to sell, it doesn't make my house more valuable. It just means I don't want to sell it.
Originally by: Cambarus
Why? Because you won't get them to give it up for less. If someone offered you $5 for your eve account, would you take it? I guess you would, since obviously online stuff isn't really worth anything, I mean come on, it's like getting $5 for FREE 
You're confusing emotional attachment to value. I find EvE fun. When I no longer find EvE fun, I will quite definitely cash in my account. I find my fun more important then 5$. A billionaire playing EvE might not wish to part with his account for, say, 50M $. It doesn't make his account worth that much.
Originally by: Cambarus
What happens to your car if you don't pay the insurance company? It's exactly the same thing. You signed a contract, stating that under certain circumstances you could have said car taken away from you, but that in no way means that you don't feel as though you "own" the car.
(a) That sounds like a sort of leasing.
(b) While a subjective sense of ownership is fine, it's not real. They can come and take your car. Although in the case of leasing, you have something which could be termed as 'economic ownership' rather then legal ownership... at any rate, financial leasing is something entirely different from EvE account, if you bothered to read the EULA.
TL;DR: EvE is a fancy way of wasting time and having fun.
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.18 18:58:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Cambarus
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The statement above couldn't be further from the truth then it is. Without getting into discussions on the nature of worth, let's invoke a few practical examples.
(a) Do you think you can sell your car for 10 Mil $ just because you think it's "worth" that much?
How much you sell it for is irrelevant. If you have that car, and the only way you are going to part with it is for 10 mil, then that's what it's worth. Granted, this analogy does not make much sense when applied to things that are mass produced, but things that are unique (such as eve accounts, no 2 are the same) often get subjected to this very logic. Ever notice how much an old painting by a famous artist can sell for? Millions of dollars for a piece of paper. Why? Because the owner will not part with it for less. Worth is defined entirely by the people involved in a particular item's market, and by nothing else.
Originally by: Cpt Branko
(b) Do you think you can buy a car you don't like for 100$ just because you think it's "worth" that much?
No, because I do not own said car, and therefore cannot decide what the minimum price it will be sold at is. Same applies to online things. I do not own your account or character, and therefore I have no right to assign any value to it. I can however assign a value to MY character, and that will be what it's worth, because if you want it, you have no choice but to agree to MY price. It's similar to a monopoly, if you monopolize something, you can set the price for it, no matter how outrageous it may seem to others.
Originally by: Cpt Branko
(c) Do you think that your , say, car has some objective value which is apart from how much you like it, or do you consider your subjective opinion the only metric of "worth" on this planet?
How would you measure an "objective value" of a car? All prices are subjective, even if you go to the base materials, because it will always be a matter of how much money you need to offer someone in order to have them part with their goods. If I decide to sell my car for 10 bucks, then that's what it sells for.
Originally by: Cpt Branko
The fact that I may not be willing to sell something I'm emotionally attached to doesn't make it "worth" more. If someone wants to buy my house for double of its value and I don't want to sell, it doesn't make my house more valuable. It just means I don't want to sell it.
But it does, because if a person wants THAT house, that's what they'll need to pay for it. Sure they can get another house, just like I could go out and buy another painting, but at the end of the day I still don't have THAT one, because I would not pay the asking price.
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Cambarus
I find my fun more important then 5$. A billionaire playing EvE might not wish to part with his account for, say, 50M $. It doesn't make his account worth that much.
Bull. I can guarantee you that if you were to sell your account (not that I condone such an act ) when you quit eve, you would most definitely NOT sell if for $5. Even then, the $5 is an arbitrary number used, why not sell it for a penny? It's not actually worth anything right?
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Cambarus
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(b) While a subjective sense of ownership is fine, it's not real. They can come and take your car. Although in the case of leasing, you have something which could be termed as 'economic ownership' rather then legal ownership... at any rate, financial leasing is something entirely different from EvE account, if you bothered to read the EULA.
I think you missed the point of that argument. In both cases, you put time and money into what you've got, but do not own it. In both cases, it'd be perfectly reasonable to be ****ed if something caused you to lose it.
And to the guy who quoted a large chunk of my post and replied with 1 line: Comparing eve to RL != Comparing how people think in the 2.
And now I have no more room. >.< |
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Federation Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.18 19:02:00 -
[71]
ISK is the easiest thing in EVE to get.
Reputation is the hardest.
You chose... poorly.
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Sinder Ohm
Demonic Corp G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.18 19:12:00 -
[72]
Lol its the ceo's own fault for trusting a 3 day old member with billions of assets, its well known we are all a bunch of ruthless basterds (the eve polulation) and if he had half a brain he would have entrusted the job to a trusted member.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.18 19:26:00 -
[73]
So this theft has paid for your freighter and got 7 players angry with your freighter pilot.
What are the chances they will suicide gank your ship? High I think.
So it don't seem this great gain. |

Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.18 21:37:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 18/08/2008 21:38:09 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 18/08/2008 21:37:37
Originally by: Venkul Mul So this theft has paid for your freighter and got 7 players angry with your freighter pilot.
What are the chances they will suicide gank your ship? High I think.
So it don't seem this great gain.
Because stupid carebears suicide gank? Right 
Originally by: Cambarus
How much you sell it for is irrelevant. If you have that car, and the only way you are going to part with it is for 10 mil, then that's what it's worth.
No, it isn't 
If we're arguing the 'price' defines how much is something worth, then we can only consider the price people (would) offer, rather then the price you would accept as valid.
You're putting it upside-down really. A painting is 'worth' millions because people are willing to pay millions for it. Not because someone doesn't want to part with it for less 
If you don't want to sell something (or would sell it at a outrageous price only) it doesn't make it priceless or more valuable. It only means it's more emotionally valuable to you (or you're expecting that people will be willing to pay more in the future, or w/e), but that's hardly a valid definition of "worth" of a item.
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Amandin Adouin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.18 21:53:00 -
[75]
This thread is funny. As a game, Eve actually promotes opportunism and scamming other players. The developers have said again and again that this is meant to be a sandbox where you make the game what you want it to be. If you want to make it a game of scamming, fine. I mean come on, the majority of the Eve universe is a no holds barred, man-eat-man world, where someone wouldn't think twice about blowing up another's ship. This is a pvp game - player vs. player. There's nothing in the game rules to suggest you can't play/pvp against your corp members. Honestly, the corp leader was stupid to hand over so much to a player he/she didn't know completely. The OP was simply an opportunist. I can't say I would do the same, but I can't hold it against him for doing so.
And to the person above who is threatening to break someone's kneecaps because of something a person did in a game, that's just insane. |

Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.08.18 21:55:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Cambarus
And to the guy who quoted a large chunk of my post and replied with 1 line: Comparing eve to RL != Comparing how people think in the 2.
Why would I break down and argue your points when it'd be such a complete waste of time and make you think comparing EvE to RL was a valid argument (like how Cpt Branko replied bringin more RL references in \o/), its better to ignore people who insist on putting forward RL situations into an argument over EvE situations and maybe one day they'll stop
Probably not though =(
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Tiirae
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:12:00 -
[77]
OP, just want to make this clear; if you had done it in a way that left you with the money but still in the corp and in good stead with the CEO, then that might be post-worthy. Even then 1b isn't really worth a thread of it's own.
But just running off with something isn't worth the bandwidth. Anyone can do that. I could have done it yesterday when I had 20b in corp assets in my carrier. Someone else could have done it to me a week ago when I got them to bring a couple billion in ships down from Jita for me.
You need to think a little more and be creative with ur scamming. When presented with this opportunity, you should have thought about how to really get away with it, and not just 'shall I or shan't I?'
Given the history of stuff people have done in Eve, you really need to have a much more entertaining tale to be worth a thread in GD or C&P.
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Somealt Ofmine
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:21:00 -
[78]
Games are amazing in some ways.
Next time you look in the mirror, bear in mind that you're looking at someone who would steal from a friend if he was 100% sure there would be no actual consequences.
What we do when we're anonymous says an awful lot about us.
That said, Eve is a game. Your own character will dictate the path you take through it, and the choices you make. There are many different ways to succeed. How successful you are won't depend on your character so much as how well aligned your talents are with your character. It's the same as life, that way.
In life, you can be a scheming, scamming, back-stabbing SOB and either end up a CEO or doing hard time. You can also be as honest honorable as the day is long and end up rich, or flat busted. It isn't your character that counts so much as how well your character aligns with your talents.
Good luck on your life of crime.
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:35:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Tre Doonan Edited by: Tre Doonan on 17/08/2008 17:48:35 I know you aint worried but I'll put any fears people here are TRYING to give you to bed.
No it dosent matter if you did this with your main
No you wont have to reroll a new char
No it wont effect joining 99% of any future corps (people have short memorys and lots dont bother with proper background checks)
No it wont be hard to gain anyones trust again
Yes it WAS worth it 
sure a bil or 2 aint that hard get but fact is its FREE isk so of course it was worth it (how can FREE not be) it was near effortless so screw what anyone else on their high horse says, congrats and enjoy it
All true and I have no way to track you in game from here. You can be a shit head in Eve. I can't, the thought of someone out there slumped over his KB with that cold pain in his gut bothers me too much. Maybe if I play Eve long enough, I can develop that sociopathic mindset..
Maybe if you've been playing so long you think space pixels are enough of a concern to cause physical pain you've been playing too long...
That's it.. gotcha. Just don't cause physical pain, then it's OK.. Stalking chicks is cool too right? Just stay on the outside of the window.. |

Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:37:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Cambarus
And to the guy who quoted a large chunk of my post and replied with 1 line: Comparing eve to RL != Comparing how people think in the 2.
Why would I break down and argue your points when it'd be such a complete waste of time and make you think comparing EvE to RL was a valid argument (like how Cpt Branko replied bringin more RL references in \o/), its better to ignore people who insist on putting forward RL situations into an argument over EvE situations and maybe one day they'll stop
Probably not though =(
I dunno. You hauled RL in when it suited your purpose.. See my previous. |
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Kale Kold
Caldari Vicious Little Killers
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:38:00 -
[81]
Originally by: khalika i always knew isk was easy to make in EVE, but this week has completely changed my view of the best way to go about it.
i recently join a corp with my industry/freighter alt, after only 3 days of joining the CEO asked if i could move some stuff for him.
upto this point i have been an entirely honest character, but when he gave me a rough idea of the contents i couldnt really resist.
a small (3 or 4 active members) corp with a 7 month old ceo was asking me to move basicly the majority of the corps assets, so he set up a 0ISK COLLATERAL contarct .
turns out the contract never was fulfilled  . and my wallet is looking significantly better.
are people really this stupid??? or am i missing something?
Yep, thats how you do it! Take everything from the carebear idiots! Take all they have and all they are gonna have. Give them no quarter, bring them to their worthless knees! While you laugh, dancing and drinking rum! 
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:42:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Tre Doonan Edited by: Tre Doonan on 17/08/2008 17:48:35 I know you aint worried but I'll put any fears people here are TRYING to give you to bed.
No it dosent matter if you did this with your main
No you wont have to reroll a new char
No it wont effect joining 99% of any future corps (people have short memorys and lots dont bother with proper background checks)
No it wont be hard to gain anyones trust again
Yes it WAS worth it 
sure a bil or 2 aint that hard get but fact is its FREE isk so of course it was worth it (how can FREE not be) it was near effortless so screw what anyone else on their high horse says, congrats and enjoy it
All true and I have no way to track you in game from here. You can be a shit head in Eve. I can't, the thought of someone out there slumped over his KB with that cold pain in his gut bothers me too much. Maybe if I play Eve long enough, I can develop that sociopathic mindset..
Maybe if you've been playing so long you think space pixels are enough of a concern to cause physical pain you've been playing too long...
That's it.. gotcha. Just don't cause physical pain, then it's OK.. Stalking chicks is cool too right? Just stay on the outside of the window..
Ok now I have proof it isnt the people who steal/kill in EvE that are the people who need mental help, its the bizarre freaks that come up with this kind of stuff to people who defend such actions in a role playing game.
Anyway wanna leave the realm of heart attacks/stalking/Perveived value of goods and servives and actually talk about EvE? |

Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:43:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Cambarus
And to the guy who quoted a large chunk of my post and replied with 1 line: Comparing eve to RL != Comparing how people think in the 2.
Why would I break down and argue your points when it'd be such a complete waste of time and make you think comparing EvE to RL was a valid argument (like how Cpt Branko replied bringin more RL references in \o/), its better to ignore people who insist on putting forward RL situations into an argument over EvE situations and maybe one day they'll stop
Probably not though =(
I dunno. You hauled RL in when it suited your purpose.. See my previous.
I did? I could have sworn you're the one who mentioned it I was merely pointin out how sad it was.... |

Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:05:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Tre Doonan Edited by: Tre Doonan on 17/08/2008 17:48:35 I know you aint worried but I'll put any fears people here are TRYING to give you to bed.
No it dosent matter if you did this with your main
No you wont have to reroll a new char
No it wont effect joining 99% of any future corps (people have short memorys and lots dont bother with proper background checks)
No it wont be hard to gain anyones trust again
Yes it WAS worth it 
sure a bil or 2 aint that hard get but fact is its FREE isk so of course it was worth it (how can FREE not be) it was near effortless so screw what anyone else on their high horse says, congrats and enjoy it
All true and I have no way to track you in game from here. You can be a shit head in Eve. I can't, the thought of someone out there slumped over his KB with that cold pain in his gut bothers me too much. Maybe if I play Eve long enough, I can develop that sociopathic mindset..
Maybe if you've been playing so long you think space pixels are enough of a concern to cause physical pain you've been playing too long...
That's it.. gotcha. Just don't cause physical pain, then it's OK.. Stalking chicks is cool too right? Just stay on the outside of the window..
Ok now I have proof it isnt the people who steal/kill in EvE that are the people who need mental help, its the bizarre freaks that come up with this kind of stuff to people who defend such actions in a role playing game.
Anyway wanna leave the realm of heart attacks/stalking/Perveived value of goods and servives and actually talk about EvE?
We are talking about Eve. A game with 40,000 people who don't all think the game is about how many people you can screw over, ya know, cuz it's a game and all fake and stuff. Or, you are just a goof? |

Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:05:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Cambarus
And to the guy who quoted a large chunk of my post and replied with 1 line: Comparing eve to RL != Comparing how people think in the 2.
Why would I break down and argue your points when it'd be such a complete waste of time and make you think comparing EvE to RL was a valid argument (like how Cpt Branko replied bringin more RL references in \o/), its better to ignore people who insist on putting forward RL situations into an argument over EvE situations and maybe one day they'll stop
Probably not though =(
I dunno. You hauled RL in when it suited your purpose.. See my previous.
I did? I could have sworn you're the one who mentioned it I was merely pointin out how sad it was....
everyone cheer for the flame tard |

Paramite Pies
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:07:00 -
[86]
I petition thread creator's wallet be emptied and put back into the CEO of the Corp in which he stole this money.
All in favor? |

Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:13:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Paramite Pies I petition thread creator's wallet be emptied and put back into the CEO of the Corp in which he stole this money.
All in favor?
No. I like the open concept of Eve. I don't like the unethical element in Eve. I will never roleplay being a *****. Some seem to get a satisfaction from it. I wish there was an Ethics meter in Eve. A way to weed out these players. I'm never in favor of the overlord solution. |

Paramite Pies
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:16:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Paramite Pies I petition thread creator's wallet be emptied and put back into the CEO of the Corp in which he stole this money.
All in favor?
No. I like the open concept of Eve. I don't like the unethical element in Eve. I will never roleplay being a *****. Some seem to get a satisfaction from it. I wish there was an Ethics meter in Eve. A way to weed out these players. I'm never in favor of the overlord solution.
Yeah, it wouldn't be EVE without the fact that you can scam or steal from people and get away with it. I personally love this aspect. But this story just seems to touch me in the wrong way, the more I think about it. Sure the Corp CEO was a little dumb to just let this guy have access to all of this stuff, but in the end, it sounds like a **** move from the OP. |

Derik Long
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:24:00 -
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The probable outcome:
Corp CEO is probably a decent guy, doesn't have firmest grasp on game mechanics. He just lost a lot of his assets, now thinks this game is filled with scammers, and quits.
OP is not a decent guy, takes advantage of someone else's mistake, then comes to the forums to poast about it. OP now has funds to buy gtc and plays longer.
Net result: Minus a decent guy, more playtime for a jerk. Net loser: EVE
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.08.19 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Originally by: Cambarus
And to the guy who quoted a large chunk of my post and replied with 1 line: Comparing eve to RL != Comparing how people think in the 2.
Why would I break down and argue your points when it'd be such a complete waste of time and make you think comparing EvE to RL was a valid argument (like how Cpt Branko replied bringin more RL references in \o/), its better to ignore people who insist on putting forward RL situations into an argument over EvE situations and maybe one day they'll stop
Probably not though =(
I dunno. You hauled RL in when it suited your purpose.. See my previous.
I did? I could have sworn you're the one who mentioned it I was merely pointin out how sad it was....
everyone cheer for the flame tard
Dont like being wrong do you 
and you resort to childish name calling and im the flametard right....
Either come up with a logical relevent argument or quit posting moral superioty BS |
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