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BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.12 15:57:00 - [1] I recently had an argument with Telemicus Thrace, of the Ushra'Khan. A long and somewhat annoying argument aside, I did ask him at one point, what his Ex-imperialist companions in UNITY felt about a few feelings he has made apparent. This will take you to the section of the forum where our discussion took place and it can be read in full. My question then, is aimed towards any Amarrian members of UNITY. I wonder what you think about this, and why you fly with the Ushra'Khan. Apparently you have your reasons, as all do, but I would like to know them, if you would like to share. For the record, I am not loyal, in any shape or form, to the Empire. I serve the Federation, I fight the Caldari out of need, however I hold sympaties towards the plight of the Matari and would see their kindred liberated. I disagree however, on the metods of some, and argue against the use of these. Sig source
BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.12 20:23:00 - [2] I guess I just expected someone that cares for his cause to not **** in every possible ally's moral-backyard. Also, I guess I did expect him to not want to sink to the level of some slavers I could mention... But I was asking for the oppinions of any Amarr in service to UNITY. I guess I can extend that to the Electus Matari as well, and any other pro-Matari faction. Sig source
BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.13 14:50:00 - [3] This here people, is not a place where you are free to argue over your mutual enemies and conflicting ideologies, even though I kind of asked for it. This tread is not about Mr. Thrace, or the ability of Kingdom of redemtion to wage war or anything in that regard. This tread was to see what the Amarr loyal to the cause of the Matari think of the statements that Mr. Thrace and a number of other Minmatar have made regarding their desired treatment of the imperial civilian population. I'll admit it might have been a mistake to mention his name but it was him that I argued with. This is not a Thrace hate tread. Now, you wish to argue your diffrences, do it elsewhere. I await statements from Mimatar loyal Amarr, though it seem the likelyhood of those people responding here are slim. Very slim... Sig source
BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.15 23:53:00 - [4] Originally by: Becq Starforged Quit being an Imperial tool. Listen to the truth, not what the your nominal enemies, the Imperials, claim. So what is the truth then? I'm no imperial tool, I'm just relatively ignorant about your methods and don't like the ideas brough about by Mr. Thrace. Let me ask you some questions, and I'd like you to answer them truthfully. First... If a man in the empire visits an estate owned and operated by a slaver, and you landed to free those slaves that day, would you kill the visitor and/or the Amarr that work in handling the slaves, even if they present no threat to you in the act of freeing the people in chains? I am not including slave-drivers or guards in this, but perhaps, employeed cooks, gardeners, and the likes of Amarrian origin, that serve the slave-owner out of service, being paid to do thier job? Would you, upon arriving in a major Amarrian town on any imperial planet kill random people in the streets as you rush for the slave-pens? Again, I am not including any defenders of the city or guards of the slave-pens in this, they would most assurantly try to stop you (unless they try and flee) so you would have to kill them anyways. Let's say you conquered a planet from the Amarr (a possible scenario given the TLF's victories thus far in low-sec) and land to swep it of slaves. By this time any plant-side resistance would be obvious targets, I will not get into that. However, your average person on this planet appears to be your run of the mill free Amarrian civilian going about their lives, and just now hiding in their homes. Naturally you search each house looking for any possible house-slaves, for those with enough money to afford such a thing. How would you treat any families you found owning a slave? How would you treat all the others who don't own any? You see Mr. Starforged, the thing is, I have no qualms about you freeing your people by any needed means. I'm merely afraid you will not leave many living things behind while doing this needed job. I'm sure even you would not waste ammo on anything that's not an all-out threat regardless of what the hard-liners in the Empire say about you, so I want to make sure. I'd love to aid you in any means needed to reach your goals. I just ain't sure what those mean exactly, or how you desire to go about reaching them. I've explained in more detail Here. Again, I wonder what any Amarrian freedom Fighters think of all this. Come on, I know you can read this summit and I know you exist. Sig source
BloodBird Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.22 01:38:00 - [5] Yet again, a tread is derailed by the imperialists and Matari supporters as they argue against one another, bickering like CHILDREN, never learning nor realizing they never sway nor convince their respective opponents of the error of their ways. And while you do that, the message voiced in the OP (that would be MINE) is drowned out. I've said it before, and I will say it once more as my patience is not totaly eradicated yet. I'd like any and all supporters of the Matari cause that are of Amarrian origin, hopefully those with family, friends or ties in the Empire and/or the Kingdom, to speak up and tell us all what you think of this. Some Freedom fighters, and thus some supporters of the cause you support, think that killing citizens of the Empire and the Kingdom to be the same as liberating their people. They seem to think that, while their people needs saving, their nominal opponents, the Empire and/or Kingdom, deserves to die, and are all to eager to make sure that happends. I say this is wrong, but that is one man's oppinion and I am not in any kind of power in either the Empire, Kingdom or Republic. This is why I wonder what you think of this. I'd truly like to know that, so, if anyone part of UNITY, EM or any other pro-matari faction see this, please respond. And to all else, unless the matter touches on this issue, do not respond to this tread. Sig source

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