EVE Search - CCP want their to have their Premium CAKE and eat it

Search EVE-Online forums for:

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

CCP want their to have their Premium CAKE and eat it

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
Author	Topic
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:09:00 - [31] the troll is weak with this one. skillless troll is without skill. you can't get a good troll on unless you have a lot of people already crying about the topic your trolling with. not only is the complaints about the price difference old but not many whines have been around for some time. You gotta learn to strike when its at its height. a well crafted troll at that point can level the entire subject by scaring everyone . If they start a new whine they look stupid. if they participate in another person's whine thread they look even worse. people hate looking stupid so they just shut up and the subject is dead. seriously you guys try way to hard and to often when it comes to trolling. quality over quantity.
Stab Wounds Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:29:00 - [32] how about you learn how to pvp instead of sitting there ganking haulers and shuttles all day?
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Anubis Xian You have it...till you eat it...then you don't have it... …but imagine if CCP had found a way to eat cake without having it! I'd easily pay €5 more bimonthly for that! Pie > Infinite Improbability Cake Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
Ralara Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:38:00 - [34] Originally by: Doc Fury So, you expect me to trust CCP's patently buggy CC billing system not to double or triple bill me and then suspend my account for no good reason only to spend 2 weeks via. billing petitions to rectify the problem? No, thanks.. "we're sorry for any inconvenience" only goes so far, not to mention that CCP does not accept a lot of widely popular payment methods. (I buy GTC with isk now, so CCP will NEVER get my CC info again.) It's very rare. I've been paying for several accounts since 2005 now and I've never had a billing error. --
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.07.14 09:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Doc Fury So, you expect me to trust CCP's patently buggy CC billing system not to double or triple bill me and then suspend my account for no good reason only to spend 2 weeks via. billing petitions to rectify the problem? No, thanks.. "we're sorry for any inconvenience" only goes so far, not to mention that CCP does not accept a lot of widely popular payment methods. (I buy GTC with isk now, so CCP will NEVER get my CC info again.) It's very rare. I've been paying for several accounts since 2005 now and I've never had a billing error. the only billing error i have ever had was with the credit card company itself pulling out a "payment" from my bank account that i never gave them authorization to do. that was a load of crap. however ive never had a single billing problem with eve or soe. 1.5 years of eve paying with RL $ and no problems. 3 years of soe's planetside and no problems.
quickshot89 Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.14 10:55:00 - [36] people who work went on holiday? wow, wish i was that lucky and quit eve or shut up, will do us all good if these morons just go back to WoW
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.07.14 11:05:00 - [37] Originally by: Le Skunk Secondly - I have obtained evidence that several of the CCP staff are on HOLIDAY. I just want to ask them this: HOLY ***ING HELL! SHOCK HORROR! CCP Employees* on holiday???? Oh MY GOD, no... somebody stop this madness!11 I mean, it's not like there's EMPLOYMENT LAW that designates a minimum number of holidays per year for employees in some countries??!! TEH HORROR! \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Face Palmer Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.07.14 11:07:00 - [38] Can I have your cake?
ekalami	Posted - 2008.07.14 11:09:00 - [39] I wanted to eat my cake, but it was nano'd and soon was out of reach. So not only couldnt i eat it, but once beyond 150km, it wasnt mine anymore either
Saietor Blackgreen The First Foundation Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2008.07.14 11:11:00 - [40] Ai em Rushan. I not undestand wat saz OP. Anibadi ken eksplein? --- Redesign local/scanner feature - make the place huge, dark and scary again!

Doc Fury	Posted - 2008.07.14 13:49:00 - [41] Originally by: ShardowRhino Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Doc Fury So, you expect me to trust CCP's patently buggy CC billing system not to double or triple bill me and then suspend my account for no good reason only to spend 2 weeks via. billing petitions to rectify the problem? No, thanks.. "we're sorry for any inconvenience" only goes so far, not to mention that CCP does not accept a lot of widely popular payment methods. (I buy GTC with isk now, so CCP will NEVER get my CC info again.) It's very rare. I've been paying for several accounts since 2005 now and I've never had a billing error. the only billing error i have ever had was with the credit card company itself pulling out a "payment" from my bank account that i never gave them authorization to do. that was a load of crap. however ive never had a single billing problem with eve or soe. 1.5 years of eve paying with RL $ and no problems. 3 years of soe's planetside and no problems. It's not rare, just about every week there is a post here about CCP's CC billing system screwing up (in various ways) and the nightmare involved in simply trying to get a timely response to a billing petition. These are just the few people that bother to come to the forums and post about it. When we start experiencing 4-6 months between CC billing issue posts, I'd then consider it to be rare. The beginning was the end (of everything) The Ape regards his tail, (he's stuck on it) Repeats until he fails..half a goon and half a god.. a man's not made of steel...
Blood Daemon Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.07.14 14:07:00 - [42] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 14/07/2008 03:15:35 Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 14/07/2008 02:55:07 So basically you're saying "I'm going to not leave if my demands aren't met"? Oh and woe on to us if the CCP devs to have personal lives. There are no demands in my OP. Im simply highlighting the web of decipt spewing from the money burning marketing division at the minute. - Lets blow a load of cash on TV adverts - oh shite subscriptions are not going up much - OK lets give EVERY old account 14 days for free - yay that boosted the numbers TICK BOX Also - Im highlighting the disgusting treatment of the new player experiment people - who's very images were edited out of any CCP records like some sort of STALIN REGIME. Theres things going on at CCP HQ that they dont want you to know about. The "chummy drunkards singing songs and baring their ass" front is a smoke screen. Current evidence shows that the "new player experiment" people were handpicked by CCP who trawled through colleges looking for ideal candidates (theatre studies and sports science graduates and the like ) and lured them into CCP HQ with the promise of "a great job in media" which turned out to be basically 1 episode gurning at the camera shouting "WOW MY SHIP IS MOVING " outside the noob stations - before being whisked away to a secret location deep in the bowels of CCPHQ. The evidences point to the involvement of the Artificial Intelligence (know on the forums as the Puppet master CCP RYAND) who manifests himself on the physical plane - in the CCP control room as a Giant Holographic Head peering down from the celling on his workers. Rumors that their life forces are somehow being siphoned to somehow FUEL this Evil Genius need further investigation SKUNK hehe, I love it when someone tries to give a logical reason to puttin Skunks post in the bin (Duban), but then gets wtfbbq'd by a post that means next to nothing to the average joe
PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Gallente aurorae pacificas	Posted - 2008.07.14 14:08:00 - [43] Im glad im not skunk. What a troubled, sad life you lead No flame, genuine pity intended.
Tek'a Rain Gallente Collegium Mechanicae Holding	Posted - 2008.07.14 14:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Doc Fury It's not rare, just about every week there is a post here about CCP's CC billing system screwing up (in various ways) and the nightmare involved in simply trying to get a timely response to a billing petition. These are just the few people that bother to come to the forums and post about it. When we start experiencing 4-6 months between CC billing issue posts, I'd then consider it to be rare. So, with so many people paying with so many different cards, billing companies, GTCs, suspended bank accounts and shady debit cards, its surprising that there are problems? You can be sure that every other MMO, and every games company that handles these numbers of payments from such a large group, has problems. You wont see them in many other gamer forums, because they are so much more likely to be deleted and banned due fo clauses in the EULA about not discussing billing or some such madness. BTW: never had a problem, not once. In years. short version for the hard of thinking: Sound and Fury on the forums.. mean almost nothing. This is true for Billing problems just as it is true for nerfs, boosts and whines.
Kalmanaka Caldari Shade.	Posted - 2008.07.14 14:51:00 - [45] Hey skunk, when you give money to someone, it's no longer yours anymore. They can do whatever they want with it and you don't get to say a damn thing about it. They can go on holiday with it, they can spend it on commercials to get even more of it, and they can use it to wipe their butts with it if they want to. It's not yours anymore. You gave it to them. Get over it.
Daelin Blackleaf The Reclaimed	Posted - 2008.07.14 14:59:00 - [46] News just in: CCP is just another corporation.
Sorted Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.14 15:01:00 - [47] Edited by: Sorted on 14/07/2008 15:01:53 I know for a fine fact skunk doest pay for his game time. Victims do that with loot. He aint paid for his accounts in years guys. hes a people person and looking out for the little guy and you all bash him. /me Boos the crowd.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.07.14 15:03:00 - [48] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 14/07/2008 15:03:19 LOUD NOISES!
Doc Fury	Posted - 2008.07.14 16:05:00 - [49] Edited by: Doc Fury on 14/07/2008 16:06:17 Originally by: Tek'a Rain So, with so many people paying with so many different cards, billing companies, GTCs, suspended bank accounts and shady debit cards, its surprising that there are problems? You can be sure that every other MMO, and every games company that handles these numbers of payments from such a large group, has problems. You wont see them in many other gamer forums, because they are so much more likely to be deleted and banned due fo clauses in the EULA about not discussing billing or some such madness. BTW: never had a problem, not once. In years. Do a search here and you will find loads of threads with people who like you have not had any problems (in years) and suddenly CCP's billing system stops accepting their payments or bills them multiple times for a single account or just suspends them. Affected players come to the forums after several days go by without any response from CCP, and no other way to contact them. Problems can and do occur with any merchant who accepts CC/Debit BUT, the added insult to injury in CCP's case is that that billing petitions are simply not handled promptly (like other companies, including other MMOGs). In some of those threads a CCP representative will even sometimes acknowledge the issues and has to "nudge" the petition so it gets some priority. There are numerous posts on other forums documenting the ongoing problems with CCPs billing system. And don't get me started on the EVE store's billing messes. I don't have much if any problems with the other companies that do recurring monthly billing on my CC, but on the rare occasion there is an issue, it is always handled promptly, and unless it's a holiday that means in less than 24-hours. My point is, GTCs are simply safer and more reliable from my experience, and now these desirable benefits come at a higher price and commitment. Of course, YMMV. The beginning was the end (of everything) The Ape regards his tail, (he's stuck on it) Repeats until he fails..half a goon and half a god.. a man's not made of steel...
Solariian Lytebringer State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.14 17:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Anubis Xian Originally by: Tippia àhow can you eat a cake if you don't have it too? ... You have it...till you eat it...then you don't have it... My head exploded. Originally by: Jenna Shame I think it takes 12 minutes to send a command to the mars rovers, so basically EvE might as well have their servers on Mars when it comes to fleet combat.

Patient 2428190 Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.07.15 01:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Doc Fury Do a search here and you will find loads of threads with people who like you have not had any problems (in years) and suddenly CCP's billing system stops accepting their payments or bills them multiple times for a single account or just suspends them. Affected players come to the forums after several days go by without any response from CCP, and no other way to contact them. Problems can and do occur with any merchant who accepts CC/Debit BUT, the added insult to injury in CCP's case is that that billing petitions are simply not handled promptly (like other companies, including other MMOGs). In some of those threads a CCP representative will even sometimes acknowledge the issues and has to "nudge" the petition so it gets some priority. There are numerous posts on other forums documenting the ongoing problems with CCPs billing system. When the CC billing breaks, people shit bricks and make posts about it. And its not a problem specific to CCP, its just paying over the interwebs, so when Shatteredcrystal or w/e billing messes up, be sure to shit bricks everywhere too. If you have 150,000 accounts being processed w/ credit cards and you get 50 "WTF OMG FUX THIS GHEI GAME", that is %0.033 percent. Surely a massive problem. Never underestimate an "entitled" customer scorned. Lalala.
Clinically Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.15 01:34:00 - [52] Hi Susan waves ________________ Q. How do you clear a system of 400 Northern Monkeys? A. Remind them its not cyno jammed.
MidnightMatriarch	Posted - 2008.07.15 02:00:00 - [53] Originally by: Le Skunk Secondly - I have obtained evidence that several of the CCP staff are on HOLIDAY. So what your saying is that instead of allowing CCP employees to have a break once in a while, there should be a large, slightly fat, Scandinavian man wearing a tight full leather suit with a whip in all of their offices constantly yelling "WORK FASTER SLAVES" while their tears power the eve servers (who knows Dev tears might be more energy efficient than carebear tears)? Your right, and you know what else? Devs shouldnt be able to go home an see their families either... and while were at it Devs dont need food, they can always replace the ones that die. We cant allow Devs to have basic perks on the job, Devs need to be in the office 24/7 making new things so i can play internet space ships! Its srrs business! /sarcasm CCP is a company. Companies want to make more money. companies will try to make their product sound good because if they dont noone will use their product. CCP is here to make money, not fellate you personally. If you dont like how CCP runs things then leave. Otherwise grow a pair and keep paying that fee. Oh and stop being a ****.
Syniztur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.07.15 02:35:00 - [54] Originally by: Le Skunk LE SKUNK ANNOYANCE REGISTRATION POST NUMBER 3883 RE: Annoyance growing at CCPs money splurging, quango-marketing division constantly playing both sides of the field. 1) HI YOU DUMB NERDS - STFU YOUR MOANING - YOU PAY MORE FOR EVE BECAUSE IT IS A PREMIUM PRODUCT 2) HI YOU STUPID ADDICTS - STFU YOUR MOANING BECAUSE YOU GET FREE CONTENT UPDATES Now call me susan, but these two dont match up. Its not "free updates" if we are paying more for "premium content". We ARE paying for the updates - except over 12 months instead of in one go. Thats one more garbage catchphrases revealed , exposed by the shining truth beam of Le Skunk ----------------------------------- Secondly - I have obtained evidence that several of the CCP staff are on HOLIDAY. I just want to ask them this: DO YOU THINK THE "NEW PLAYER EXPERIMENT" LABRATS CAN AFFORD A HOLIDAY? No they cant - not after you threw them out like a piece of rubbish after episode one of EVE TV - And there is no "spotty man" to climb though the window to give THEM super powers with cosmic dust. LE SKUNK - "To Orangey for CCP" Good grief... who let the Skuknk out of his cage? ╔═╦═╦╦═╗ ║═╣═║║╔╝ ║═╣╔╣║╚╗ ╚═╩╝╚╩═╝ ╔═╦══╦╦╗ ║╔╣╔╗║║║ ║╚╣╚╝║║║ ║╔╣╔╗║║╚╗ ╚╝╚╝╚╩╩═╝ -------------------------------------------------- \| Do unto others, before they can do unto you! \| --------------------------------------------------
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.15 02:56:00 - [55] Well I hope your proud of yourself - Youve all been weally weally mean to me in this thread. _______________________ To recap 1) The price raising IS NOT THE PROBLEM. The extra 5 dollars compared to other MMOs is not an issue. Well to be precise - its not an issue for me... ill explain. You see - if the price goes up in dollars, then the isk price for a GTC goes up. If the isk price for a GTC goes up - then I have to get more isk from somewhere to continue. And guess what - I dont get it mining. More expensive GTC means i have to rob over more people passing through my system. Im not paying for it... YOU ARE 2) THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS WITH CCPS PROPOGANDA MACHINE In one breath CCP say we must "pay more for a premium product" in the other they tell us we have "free expansions". This is ridiculous. WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY MONTHLY PREMIUMS FOR FREE EXPANSIONS SKUNK
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.07.15 03:06:00 - [56] Edited by: Tippia on 15/07/2008 03:08:54 Originally by: Le Skunk In one breath CCP say we must "pay more for a premium product" in the other they tell us we have "free expansions". …and one does not exclude the other. Also "we" don't have to pay more for that premium product – only those who use GTCs do.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.15 03:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Le Skunk In one breath CCP say we must "pay more for a premium product" in the other they tell us we have "free expansions". àand one does not exclude the other. I pay 35 dollars every 2 months over 18 months and I get a "Free" content expansion from CCP RESULT: Gullible idiots Praise CCP to the hills and whoops with joy about their "free gifts". CCP Marketing churn out publicity about how updates are free. I pay 30 dollars every 2 months over 18 months and I then pay 45 dollars for an expansion package from insert MMO here RESULT: Total cost to player.... the same as with the "free updates" There is nothing wrong with this model. Its what they have chosen and they cannot be faulted for choosing it. They can be faulted for trying to spin it so badly and trying to pull the wool down over the gamebase - and trying to make it look like they are doing us a favour. SKUNK
Ho HsienKo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.07.15 03:16:00 - [58] Originally by: Le Skunk There are no demands in my OP. Im simply highlighting the web of decipt spewing from the money burning marketing division at the minute. - Lets blow a load of cash on TV adverts - oh shite subscriptions are not going up much - OK lets give EVERY old account 14 days for free - yay that boosted the numbers TICK BOX Also - Im highlighting the disgusting treatment of the new player experiment people - who's very images were edited out of any CCP records like some sort of STALIN REGIME. Theres things going on at CCP HQ that they dont want you to know about. The "chummy drunkards singing songs and baring their ass" front is a smoke screen. Current evidence shows that the "new player experiment" people were handpicked by CCP who trawled through colleges looking for ideal candidates (theatre studies and sports science graduates and the like ) and lured them into CCP HQ with the promise of "a great job in media" which turned out to be basically 1 episode gurning at the camera shouting "WOW MY SHIP IS MOVING " outside the noob stations - before being whisked away to a secret location deep in the bowels of CCPHQ. The evidences point to the involvement of the Artificial Intelligence (know on the forums as the Puppet master CCP RYAND) who manifests himself on the physical plane - in the CCP control room as a Giant Holographic Head peering down from the celling on his workers. Rumors that their life forces are somehow being siphoned to somehow FUEL this Evil Genius need further investigation SKUNK I remember a Dr. Who episode like this..... QUICK to the Tardas!
JanoMark smoking blunts Mutual Assured Destruction	Posted - 2008.07.15 03:25:00 - [59] Skunk is smoking some kill skunk. Me wants some.
Origim Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.15 03:33:00 - [60] What everybody fails to take into account is that every free "expansion" has as much content as a WoW patch that is also free. -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 10 of 25 \|

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.

LE SKUNK ANNOYANCE REGISTRATION POST NUMBER 3883

YOU ARE