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Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.03.16 19:07:00 -
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The Snowman wrote:aaaaaaahahaha!
FFUuuuuuuuuuuu people who claim incursions cause inflation hahaha....
In the end it was actually 0.0 carebears running anomolies that was causing inflation.
lolol, this has made my day!
Watch out null sec dwellers.... neerrfffff incoming!! And you can blame your fellow null sec residents for causing such a fuss..
That ladies and gentlmen is what they call an own-goal LOL!
That's idiocy. Bounties have been in Eve all along. Claiming that they're the majority of the ISK faucet is like claiming this game uses pixels. It's a given, and it's borderline irresponsible to not compare ISK injection pre-Incursions to ISk injection post-incursions.
Any other comparison is laughable, as Incursions are clearly broken, while bounties have functioned properly more or less since the beginning of the game.
The high-sec crowd is ultra fond of pointing out how high-sec is the population center of Eve. They are said to outnumber the null-sec players by more than four to one. Therefore, there are four times as many high-sec dwellers earning bounties as there are null-sec dwellers. Granted, each area will have players who do not engage in bounty-harvesting PVE, but claiming this situation is purely the fault of null-sec is utterly ridiculous.
High-sec bounties have a considerable impact on ISK injection, even if the bounty ticks themselves may be lower.
Don't you think CCP would look foolish if they admitted their precious Incursions were breaking the game?
This is an obvious sham.
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Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.03.16 19:40:00 -
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Any chance we can get data mining on ISK injection per capita?
Meaningless tripe about bounties is totally misleading and was deliberately phrased as such.
If considerably less than 25% of the population is running incursions, then this is obviously broken.
Stating anything to the contrary is obviously and utterly laughable.
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Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.03.16 20:29:00 -
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Jackie Fisher wrote:Zircon Dasher wrote:Darth Gustav wrote: If considerably less than 25% of the population is running incursions, then this is obviously broken.
Stating anything to the contrary is obviously and utterly laughable. So if considerably less than 25% of the population is farming wormholes, then, wormholes are obviously more broken than incursions. Since Blue Lewt contributed about 10.4T isk in Feb compared to the 8.6T from incursions (not just highsec incursions). From twitter on 29th Feb: John Turbefield GGE @CCP_Diagoras Locations of active chars with more than 5m SP just after midnight: High Sec 66.00%, Low sec 7.37%, Null sec 20.73%, Wormhole Space 5.89%
I guess that answers your question then.
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Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.03.17 01:35:00 -
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CCP Dr.EyjoG wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:Dear CCP, can we get some production and destruction numbers as well?
Such as Total Minerals Mined, can be all minerals lumped together in one big number for all I care. A break down of mins from Loot, drone poo and direct mining would be nice to know too. Total Number of Moon goo units produced, can be all units lumped together as one big number. How many units of planetary P0s were generated. How much salvage, total units droped? How much ice was mined?
How many minerals were destroyed by ships blowing up, how much moon goo was destroyed, how much PI materials in terms of P-0s were destroyed. How many ships are sitting in Hangars. How much salvage was destroyed. How much Ice was consumed?
The provided indicies only tell part of the picture, is productivity keeping up with population growth and ISK growth? Is destruction keeping up with population growth? How much hording, or perhaps better phrased, "incendental hording" of materials going on.
Changes in ISK movements, of the total ISK supply, on active accounts, what percentage of that ISK is in escrow on the market. Total value of all markets (sell orders), minus the outliers, over time. Total value of all buy orders, over time.
Other interesting numbers would be changes in PVP related Skill points to industrial skill points. What's the change in ratio over time. Is Industrial SP investment keeping pace with PVP/PVE SP investment.
BPOs from NPCs, is that keeping pace with population growth? How many ships were produced of each class, how is that moving and the ratio of the types over time.
The big question being asked by these numbers is, is productivity keeping pace with population and money supply? Indicies hint that it is, but is it true? Or is something else going on. Good questions and suggestions. Some of this will be addressed in the lecture next Friday, other stuff we hope to be able to publish in a Devblog soon after Fanfest.
The per-capita ISK earning potential of the average Incursion runner vs. the average Anomaly runner vs. the average Mission runner would be really nice too.
Or if that's impossible, a total number of players who received bounties as compared to the total number of players to receive incursion payouts.
Without these numbers we are looking at figures in a vacuum and relying on folks with a vested interest for "interpretation."
Giving us partial data and implying that is all there is to it, as Soundwave has done with this blog, smacks of omission of valuable content. Forgive us if we cast a dubious glance in his general direction over this.
Put simply: What is the relationship between the proportions of normal "bounty" PVE players to their bounties and the number of incursion runners (who have actually gotten rewards) to their incursion payouts?
If the proportions aren't at least "similar", this is broken and needs serious attention.
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Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:28:00 -
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Tetragammatron Prime wrote:obviously un-nerfing anomalies so even the worst scrub alliances could make bank in any 0.0 was a mistake
The majority of botters live in Caldari Empire space.
Blammo.
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