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Tippia
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:23:00 -
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Could you include some units on those axes? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.03.16 21:09:00 -
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The Snowman wrote:FFUuuuuuuuuuuu people who claim incursions cause inflation hahaha....
In the end it was actually 0.0 carebears running anomolies that was causing inflation. Nope. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.03.16 23:37:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:Right on! Stick with your assertion no matter what! What does CCP know anyway! They know a fair bit, and they're certainly not claiming what The Snowman saysGǪ
No, incursions most certainly cause inflation.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.03.17 00:21:00 -
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Nair Alderau wrote:Let's say they were a contributing factor. Some people forget that the Concord LP handed out is actually an ISK sink. I've never seen that number separated from the other LP store sinks, though, so I won't comment on how much it does actually dampen the ISK payout of incursions. Somebody got numbers? (or rough approximations?) Diagoras posted some numbers on the topic a month ago.
During that day, the LP store sunk some 180bn ISK, which I would translate into roughly 200 million LP being cashed in. Incursions paid out a mere 4.7 million LP during that day. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.03.17 11:04:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:The ISK earning potential of the average Incursion runner vs. the average Anomaly runner vs. the average Mission runner would be really nice too.
Or if that's impossible, a total number of players who received bounties as compared to the total number of players to receive incursion payouts. We do have some of those numbers, courtesy of CCP Diagoras, even if they are a mix of a single day and over a month.
In January, some 175k characters ran 6.8 million missions and collected 4.37 trillion ISK in rewards and time bonuses. No number has been given for the amount of bounties collected in those missions, but some of the old omgz-L4-pays-too-much threads arrived at a suggested 1:2.25 ratio between those rewards and the bounties paid out, and if that's true, missions accounted for just under 10 trillion ISK in bountes.
That equates to an average of 2.6M ISK per mission runner per day.
On February 1st, some 1,780 incursion runners collected some 302 billion ISK for an average of 169M ISK per incursion runner for that day. Granted, some other numbers he posted suggested that February 1st was a particularly active day, paying out roughly 15% more than the average, so we should probably reduce the number by that much
That equates to an average of 144M ISK per incursion runner per day.
Both of these activities pay out LP, and in January, 5.7 trillion ISK were sunk into various LP stores. Historically, mission running has had an amount of ISK equal to pretty much all of its mission rewards and time bonuses sunk into LP, and if we assume that this trend still holds true, that means 4.37 of those trillions went to mission LP and 1.33 trillion went into incursion LP.
Mission runners thus sink 805k ISK per runner per day, reducing their net injection to 1.8M ISK per runner per day. Incursion runners sink a hefty 24M ISK per runner per day, reducing their net injection to 120M ISK per runner per day.
That leaves the rest of the bounty payments, but no numbers have been given for how many anomalies/complexes/belt-ratters there are. A total of 27.03 trillion ISK were injected through bounties in January, and if we choose to believe the mission runner bounty calculation above, it means 17 of those trillions come from ratting in its various forms GÇö that's 548bn a day spread over an unknown number of people. If there are more than 4500 of them on average per day, it injects less than the incursion runners do; if there are fewer, they inject more. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:56:00 -
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Hellanna wrote:My guess is it would never happen. Imagine the forum rage when it was confirmed that, id bet, atleast, 80% of the isk coming into game comes from high sec means whether from high sec bounties/incursions/missions. According to the day slice numbers I collected from CCP Diagoras' tweets, it looks something like this:
Highsec GÇö 889.4bn / 49% Lowsec GÇö pffahahahah (ok, maybe a few billion in insurance). / 1% Nullsec GÇö 693.9bn / 38% W-space GÇö 223.9bn 12%
Some of the nullspace ISK might be lowsec ISK if it turns out that lowsec exploration is actually very common. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.03.18 12:35:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:This are nice numbers. But this must represent value generated, or the ISK generated? since W-Space don't generate ISK directly.... So this must also include minerals and loot values.... It's ISK generated, and W-space does its ISK injecting through GÇ£blue lootGÇ¥ GÇö stuff that only serves the purpose of being sold to the NPC buy order ISK faucet.
If you want some semi-recent numbers for most of the faucets and sink, you can check out this post and the follow-up post where I collect some of the data CCP Diagoras has been posting. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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