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Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2008.07.15 16:37:00 - [1]

Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 15/07/2008 16:38:34


Aunia, Coriault Constellation, Sinq Laison Region
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OK, Naqam - IzzyChan and Silver Night in particular. I know that your natural cranial functions atrophe fairly quickly and that you have limited onboard processing power, since most of the work is done by an external node, so I'll make all this simple, and try not to use too many big words, just for you guys.

Get out of the Federation.

I'm giving you 48 hours to pack up any operations that you might be undertaking in Federation space, including (but not limited to) the Safe Harbour project, production or sale of the NHB Ultra Happy Chip, production or sale of Slave-class implants or logistical or tactical support of non-Naqam Sansha operations in regions which the Federation control in whole or in part, defined as Everyshore, Essence, Placid, Verge Vendor, Solitude and particularly Sinq Laison.

I would usually only give you 24 hours, but I understand that due to the effects of Sansha cerebral mutilation you're not particularly quick, so given that I somewhat pity you, you get double that. Aren't I a nice guy?

Failure to comply with this order will of course result in a war declaration, and a forcible expulsion from Federate territory. I actually managed to get Orun to agree to this one, as one of the few things we agree on is that Sansha influence is universally cancerous and is unwelcome anywhere, particularly here. Peddle your insane misanthropy somewhere else or die.

Oh dear, I rather botched that promise not to use long words, didn't I? Not to worry, though - I'm sure there's a dictionary floating around somewhere on the core network. Perhaps you can look some of them up while you make toast. Laughing
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Kaianna Sela
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Posted - 2008.07.15 17:06:00 - [2]

I'm sure this will have the exact effect effect you're looking for, both impressing people and striking fear into the hearts of your enemies.

Honestly. It will.
Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2008.07.15 17:14:00 - [3]

Originally by: Kaianna Sela
I'm sure this will have the exact effect effect you're looking for, both impressing people and striking fear into the hearts of your enemies.

Honestly. It will.


Honestly, given the single-mindedness exhibited by most True Slaves, I am almost certain it will be ignored or ridiculed by them. I simply felt it neccessary to give fair warning. As for my flippancy - well. I feel it neccessary to act honourably to my opponents, but I am under no such moral obligation to act politely. They are, after all, murderers, slavers and looters.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 17:45:00 - [4]

Or else... *chuckles*


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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:07:00 - [5]

Let me just say I like the slogan. It carries alot of Nation spirit in it.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:09:00 - [6]

Oh man I am so scared I'm totally going to do everything you said there. Oh wait, no I'm not. Who made you the boss of us?

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Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:37:00 - [7]

Originally by: IzzyChan
Oh man I am so scared I'm totally going to do everything you said there. Oh wait, no I'm not. Who made you the boss of us?


Exactly the sentiment I expected, so not a terrible setback. However, should you do the sensible thing and reconsider, the offer to vacate Federation territory will remain open, expiring at 17:00 hours, Thursday 17th, at which point the war will have been active for its mandatory 24-hour cooldown period. If proof is given at Naqam operations in the Federation have ceased, the war will be terminated without prejudice.

As for who made me the boss of you, I'm the CEO of a liscenced Federal paramilitary, operating in Federal space, telling you to get the hell out of it. There's no real official power behind my words, but basically, I'm going to shoot your ships if I see you in Federation space. If you don't like that, get out of Federation space! It's really simple.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:43:00 - [8]

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: IzzyChan
Oh man I am so scared I'm totally going to do everything you said there. Oh wait, no I'm not. Who made you the boss of us?


Exactly the sentiment I expected, so not a terrible setback. However, should you do the sensible thing and reconsider, the offer to vacate Federation territory will remain open, expiring at 17:00 hours, Thursday 17th, at which point the war will have been active for its mandatory 24-hour cooldown period. If proof is given at Naqam operations in the Federation have ceased, the war will be terminated without prejudice.

As for who made me the boss of you, I'm the CEO of a liscenced Federal paramilitary, operating in Federal space, telling you to get the hell out of it. There's no real official power behind my words, but basically, I'm going to shoot your ships if I see you in Federation space. If you don't like that, get out of Federation space! It's really simple.



Good God.......I'm certainly no fan of some of the Sansha ideals, but please Naqam, do the cluster a service and kill this idiot a few times.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:49:00 - [9]

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: IzzyChan
Oh man I am so scared I'm totally going to do everything you said there. Oh wait, no I'm not. Who made you the boss of us?


Exactly the sentiment I expected, so not a terrible setback. However, should you do the sensible thing and reconsider, the offer to vacate Federation territory will remain open, expiring at 17:00 hours, Thursday 17th, at which point the war will have been active for its mandatory 24-hour cooldown period. If proof is given at Naqam operations in the Federation have ceased, the war will be terminated without prejudice.

As for who made me the boss of you, I'm the CEO of a liscenced Federal paramilitary, operating in Federal space, telling you to get the hell out of it. There's no real official power behind my words, but basically, I'm going to shoot your ships if I see you in Federation space. If you don't like that, get out of Federation space! It's really simple.


My fedo slippers just ran for cover.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:55:00 - [10]

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris

I'm the CEO of a liscenced Federal paramilitary, operating in Federal space, telling you to get the hell out of it. There's no real official power behind my words


Phew I'm glad we got that sorted for a moment there I was under the impression that it was President Ixiris talking there. Wouldn't that be something to see.


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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:58:00 - [11]

Originally by: Heartstone
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris

I'm the CEO of a liscenced Federal paramilitary, operating in Federal space, telling you to get the hell out of it. There's no real official power behind my words


Phew I'm glad we got that sorted for a moment there I was under the impression that it was President Ixiris talking there. Wouldn't that be something to see.




The mind boggles frankly.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 18:59:00 - [12]

Uh oh- Izzy get out of the Fed, quickly now. Don't want Andreus coming for you!

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Posted - 2008.07.15 19:31:00 - [13]

Edited by: Vlak Nera on 15/07/2008 19:31:31
*Vlak chuckles quietly while reading the press*
So.. it begins.. the cycle of war comes to the Nation's doorstep.. I wish you luck... as a Sani Sabik.. sure hope the terrible Andreus Ixiris doesn't come for me! Although his blood would please Omir I'm sure.. wherever he is *Vlak grins and the feed is disconnected*
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Posted - 2008.07.15 20:06:00 - [14]

This is probably the funniest thing I've seen for a while. Kick him down, Naqam, and kick him hard.
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Garion Avarr
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Posted - 2008.07.15 20:31:00 - [15]

You know, I have tended to disagree with Ixiris lately -- despite some earlier pleasent chats previously. But on this, I am in compete support of him.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 21:03:00 - [16]

Zombies vs Degenerates...hrm, i put my money on the undead.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 21:07:00 - [17]

Originally by: Vlak Nera
*Vlak chuckles quietly while reading the press*
So.. it begins.. the cycle of war comes to the Nation's doorstep..


Too bad Fed space isn't on the Nation's doorstep.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 21:40:00 - [18]

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Exactly the sentiment I expected, so not a terrible setback. However, should you do the sensible thing and reconsider, the offer to vacate Federation territory will remain open, expiring at 17:00 hours, Thursday 17th, at which point the war will have been active for its mandatory 24-hour cooldown period. If proof is given at Naqam operations in the Federation have ceased, the war will be terminated without prejudice.

As for who made me the boss of you, I'm the CEO of a liscenced Federal paramilitary, operating in Federal space, telling you to get the hell out of it. There's no real official power behind my words, but basically, I'm going to shoot your ships if I see you in Federation space. If you don't like that, get out of Federation space! It's really simple.

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Posted - 2008.07.15 22:22:00 - [19]

Oooh. Crotchety nutjobs versus remote-controlled nutjobs. Sounds like fun. Almost fun enough to make me want to head back to Federation space.
Andreus Ixiris
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Posted - 2008.07.15 22:32:00 - [20]

Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 15/07/2008 22:33:13
I object to the term "crochety" nutjob. Rodj Blake is a crochety nutjob. Gaven Lok'ri is a crochety nutjob. Darth Sage is a crochety nutjob. I'm only 25. You can't be crochety until you're at least forty. I'd say I'm closer to a "narcissistic" nutjob.
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Remus Navillum
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Posted - 2008.07.15 22:55:00 - [21]

Alright, I'll give you that, based on the fact that your nutjobbery differs greatly from the nutjobbery of all those people you described. And since they are all quite decidedly crotchety (except maybe Darth Sage, who is really just utterly batshit insane), QED, you aren't crotchety.

Though I might argue "militantly idealistic" might be a more accurate nutjob variety than "narcissistic." Maybe. Either way, I'm no fan of the Sansha loons. Give 'em hell.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 23:31:00 - [22]

While you might insult their intelligence, I've learned that Naqam is one of those corporations you shouldn't take lightly.

Do so might result in a good number of Andreus corpses floating in space.



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Odre Echee
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Posted - 2008.07.15 23:34:00 - [23]

Originally by: Sakura Nihil
While you might insult their intelligence, I've learned that Naqam is one of those corporations you shouldn't take lightly.

Do so might result in a good number of Andreus corpses floating in space.

Everybody, even us, will have to die sometime. There really is nothing wrong with that.

Ideas, after all, are tested by experiments.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 00:05:00 - [24]

Welcome to the Federation, home of freedom, open-mindedness, and democracy...

Unless Andreus doesn't like you, in which case, we'll let him murder you until you get the hell out.

And no, we don't trust our citizens with decisions about what implants they'd like to have...that would be too close to actual freedom of choice.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 00:21:00 - [25]

Originally by: Vikarion
And no, we don't trust our citizens with decisions about what implants they'd like to have...that would be too close to actual freedom of choice.

While I might agree with you to an extent, I think this is more a case of "we do not think you are being honest about the effects of the implants you offer, preventing citizens from making an informed choice and possibly leading them to give up their freedom when it was not their intent to do so."
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Posted - 2008.07.16 00:32:00 - [26]

Plus I'm pretty sure there has to be some legislation somewhere that declares mind-controlling implants to be illegal.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 00:56:00 - [27]

Originally by: Vikarion
Welcome to the Federation, home of freedom, open-mindedness, and democracy...

Unless Andreus doesn't like you, in which case, we'll let him murder you until you get the hell out.


Sansha's Nation is an outlaw entity in both the Federation and the State. I'm just enforcing it.

Originally by: Vikarion
And no, we don't trust our citizens with decisions about what implants they'd like to have...that would be too close to actual freedom of choice.


A serious question here: are you ignorant of the dubious circumstances behind this chip's distribution, or are you simply trolling?

The SCC has no record of the NHB Ultra Happy Chip on their product database, which means that it's being produced and marketed without SCC liscencing, which is in itself a grievous violation of CONCORD laws. Secondly, there is no Federation Customs record on the UHC, which suggests that they are either mass-producing it in Gallente space (again, without an SCC liscence or SCC-registered blueprint, which is illegal) or smuggling it in (which is of course a violation of Federal Customs and Import laws).

Lastly, my request to see certain sections of the chip's schematics and transceiver software were summarily denied by Silver Night. Given that the schematic in question was the primary neural interface, a section which is virtually identical on almost all similar chips and indeed quite a large amount of the schematic would be intimately familiar to any pilot who has the Cybernetics skillbook downloaded into his brain, and also that the sections of code I wanted to see (which dictate the information the chip sends and recieves) would not be particularly useful to anyone trying to create a duplicate version given that they are simply a complex value table that would be easily duplicable independently by any relatively adept programmer, and I was interested in the data the chip sends and recieves, rather than the structure of the code - ah, well, this sentence runs on a little bit.

Basically, I asked for access to proprietary data that would not in any way be useful to me were I to want to create a competing product (which I don't, as MXD is a paramilitary, whereas Naqam claims to focus mainly on R&D and industry). This would, incidentally, have been less data than they would have been required to submit to the SCC in order to obtain registration and liscencing for its sale. My aim in obtaining this data was to analyse whether the chip could be used in ways other than its advertised purpose - for instance, as a backdoor override to a subject's higher brain functions, as Sansha are fond of doing.

At every turn Naqam have been evasive on the true capabilities and purpose of the chip, and have almost certainly violated SCC and Federation Customs restrictions on the manufacture, transport and sale of sensitive neuroelectronic equipment.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:04:00 - [28]

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
The SCC has no record of the NHB Ultra Happy Chip on their product database, which means that it's being produced and marketed without SCC liscencing, which is in itself a grievous violation of CONCORD laws. Secondly, there is no Federation Customs record on the UHC, which suggests that they are either mass-producing it in Gallente space (again, without an SCC liscence or SCC-registered blueprint, which is illegal) or smuggling it in (which is of course a violation of Federal Customs and Import laws).


Just to nitpick, neither is modified modules used by various other factions, including various Navies and pirate groups, or even finer-tuned modules enjoyed by many pirate officers, but I get this feeling that people trading such wares are not violating any CONCORD policies in particular, unless I am having some comprehension problems with SCC policies. Which I very may well may, but nonetheless.

Their evasive approach towards purpose of the chip is, funnily enough, main reason why I wish to try it out. It is a mysterious entity that is begging to be investigated and studied.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:06:00 - [29]

Out of silly curiousity, Andreus, if the Nation is an outlawed entity according to CONCORD law, doesn't that make trafficking and/or association with them a punishable offense?
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:20:00 - [30]

Originally by: Odre Echee
Just to nitpick, neither is modified modules used by various other factions, including various Navies and pirate groups, or even finer-tuned modules enjoyed by many pirate officers, but I get this feeling that people trading such wares are not violating any CONCORD policies in particular, unless I am having some comprehension problems with SCC policies. Which I very may well may, but nonetheless.


Correction - officer- or faction-modified modules, implants, etc. cannot be sold on local markets, but they do have SCC database entries with corresponding information and there are schematics for some of these items that, while not neccessarily being liscenced by the SCC, conform to standardised regulations, allowing them to be manufactured at any compliant station. This is what enables them to be transferred through the SCC's contract system. The NHB Ultra Happy Chip has no such database entry, and it is quite likely that a ship's computer, if one were to loot a shipment of them, would not recognise what they were.

Originally by: Odre Echee
Their evasive approach towards purpose of the chip is, funnily enough, main reason why I wish to try it out. It is a mysterious entity that is begging to be investigated and studied.


Brother, I would advise in the strongest possible terms against installing any Sansha wetware. I don't even trust SCC-cleared Slave implants, to be perfectly frank.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:42:00 - [31]

Edited by: Odre Echee on 16/07/2008 01:48:23
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Correction - officer- or faction-modified modules, implants, etc. cannot be sold on local markets, but they do have SCC database entries with corresponding information and there are schematics for some of these items that, while not neccessarily being liscenced by the SCC, conform to standardised regulations, allowing them to be manufactured at any compliant station. This is what enables them to be transferred through the SCC's contract system. The NHB Ultra Happy Chip has no such database entry, and it is quite likely that a ship's computer, if one were to loot a shipment of them, would not recognise what they were.


I see, I see. This SCC-business seems simpler than I originally thought it was. I shall thank you for this correction.

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Brother, I would advise in the strongest possible terms against installing any Sansha wetware. I don't even trust SCC-cleared Slave implants, to be perfectly frank.


I do not either, but this is something I wish to be documented. Dangers, effects, benefits they claim, and other various influences this implant can produce, I wish to be documented. If something is truly dangerous and is a threat, I believe that it should be studied and understood better, so countermeasures can be made against if need be, and its vile mechanics and science contribute to humankind for better. That is, after all, is why we scientists exist. I have contacted my former lecturer to aid me in this endeavor. I do thank you for the concern. I shall endeavor to return from this more or less untouched.

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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:57:00 - [32]

Originally by: Odre Echee
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Brother, I would advise in the strongest possible terms against installing any Sansha wetware. I don't even trust SCC-cleared Slave implants, to be perfectly frank.


I do not either, but this is something I wish to be documented. Dangers, effects, benefits they claim, and other various influences this implant can produce, I wish to be documented. If something is truly dangerous and is a threat, I believe that it should be studied and understood better, so countermeasures can be made against if need be, and its vile mechanics and science contribute to humankind for better. That is, after all, is why we scientists exist. I have contacted my former lecturer to aid me in this endeavor. I do thank you for the concern. I shall endeavor to return from this more or less untouched.


Even so, I would highly advise against this. There of been cases of others that have been given implants from Naqam and . . . well, while I am not certain anything can be proven, there is certainly reason for suspicion.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:15:00 - [33]


The blatant fedo-love starts here:

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris


The SCC has no record of the NHB Ultra Happy Chip on their product database, which means that it's being produced and marketed without SCC liscencing, which is in itself a grievous violation of CONCORD laws. Secondly, there is no Federation Customs record on the UHC, which suggests that they are either mass-producing it in Gallente space (again, without an SCC liscence or SCC-registered blueprint, which is illegal) or smuggling it in (which is of course a violation of Federal Customs and Import laws).

Lastly, my request to see certain sections of the chip's schematics and transceiver software were summarily denied by Silver Night. Given that the schematic in question was the primary neural interface, a section which is virtually identical on almost all similar chips and indeed quite a large amount of the schematic would be intimately familiar to any pilot who has the Cybernetics skillbook downloaded into his brain, and also that the sections of code I wanted to see (which dictate the information the chip sends and recieves) would not be particularly useful to anyone trying to create a duplicate version given that they are simply a complex value table that would be easily duplicable independently by any relatively adept programmer, and I was interested in the data the chip sends and recieves, rather than the structure of the code - ah, well, this sentence runs on a little bit.

Basically, I asked for access to proprietary data that would not in any way be useful to me were I to want to create a competing product (which I don't, as MXD is a paramilitary, whereas Naqam claims to focus mainly on R&D and industry). This would, incidentally, have been less data than they would have been required to submit to the SCC in order to obtain registration and liscencing for its sale. My aim in obtaining this data was to analyse whether the chip could be used in ways other than its advertised purpose - for instance, as a backdoor override to a subject's higher brain functions, as Sansha are fond of doing.

At every turn Naqam have been evasive on the true capabilities and purpose of the chip, and have almost certainly violated SCC and Federation Customs restrictions on the manufacture, transport and sale of sensitive neuroelectronic equipment.


and ends there.

Firstly Ixirus; you didn't ask for 'certain parts' of our proprietary schematics, you demanded a copy of the whole thing, a request that only a fool would ask for in the first place.

Second, every single one of the governmental and regulatory agencies you listed has records of our involvement with them.. Everything has been above the board since day one. Would we have started a clusterwide advertising blitz if we were trying to be all 'nefarious'? It's a matter of public record; anyone can find them with just a little work. But not you apparently...

You were high again, weren't you? Less than six weeks ago, you showed up on this very network blasted out of your skull on Mindflood. So much so that your friends ended up asking us for help because they were afraid you were going to pilot your ship into a star.. You have bragged, bragged about your drug use while piloting machines capable of killing thousands with one twitch of your hallucinogen soaked nerves! And now you come on here spewing inane accusations as to our business practices.


Just stop bothering people and go back to rehab, you stupid drophead.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:50:00 - [35]

Oh dear! I seem to have touched rather a nerve. That famous Achura composure seems to have slipped a little, Ms. Hali.

Originally by: Carcosa Hali
Firstly Ixirus; you didn't ask for 'certain parts' of our proprietary schematics, you demanded a copy of the whole thing, a request that only a fool would ask for in the first place.


Complete lies. I never even considered asking for a complete schematic - I asked for information on the transceivers only.

Originally by: Carcosa Hali
Second, every single one of the governmental and regulatory agencies you listed has records of our involvement with them.. Everything has been above the board since day one.


Then please, provide notarised copies of the SCC and Federal Customs certificates (which list no proprietary information other than the product's SCC "callsign", product code and patent owner and are generally provided as standard), and explain what happened to your chip's SCC/FC database entries.

Originally by: Carcosa Hali
Would we have started a clusterwide advertising blitz if we were trying to be all 'nefarious'?


Two words: Protein Delicacies. I think that's all that really needs to be said about nefarious operations being disguised as something benign.

Originally by: Carcosa Hali
It's a matter of public record; anyone can find them with just a little work. But not you apparently...


Surely at least one person would be able to find "NHB Ultra Happy Chip" in a product database somewhere in the NeoCom interface. I know both Duvolle Laboratories and Kaalakiota have had serious rollout issues with their operating systems recently, but surely if you were telling the truth SOMEONE would have provided a NeoCom screen capture to prove me wrong.

Originally by: Carcosa Hali
You were high again, weren't you? Less than six weeks ago, you showed up on this very network blasted out of your skull on Mindflood. So much so that your friends ended up asking us for help because they were afraid you were going to pilot your ship into a star.. You have bragged, bragged about your drug use while piloting machines capable of killing thousands with one twitch of your hallucinogen soaked nerves! And now you come on here spewing inane accusations as to our business practices.

Just stop bothering people and go back to rehab, you stupid drophead.


Coming from a member of a corporation that plays puppet for a dead fascist dictator, known to use brainwashing, invasive implant technology and coercive mind-altering simulations, that's rich. No, that's beyond rich, that's opulent. That's so rich it's rich like the contents of Istvaan Shogaatsu's wet dreams.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:51:00 - [36]

Let me see if I have this straight: Ixiris is warning Naqam leadership that, after 48 hours, a wardec will be issued on Naqam by Mixed Metaphor. After the war is declared, there will be an additional 24 hours before sanctioned hostilities can commence.

If one of your people warned Naqam of the impending wardec 2 days in advance, you'd call him a traitor. When your ego causes you to tell the entire capsuleer community (and anyone else who happens to be listening), you're a ... a what? A poor tactician at best; an idiot at worst?

When you run up against a well-prepared Naqam force (including any allies they may have), make sure your people know who sabotaged their chances of victory.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 05:42:00 - [37]


Where to begin. Well, Naqam podder operations are minimal to non existent in the Federation. They may increase now, as a pilot or two might move to the Federation just to help illustrate how useless this is.

Your accusation that the Chip isn't SCC approved just because you don't find it in the standard podder databases is absurd. My Egonics headset isn't specifically listed either, but it is perfectly legal. Likewise millions of other items. the truth is this is an item for personal use by primarily non-podders. There is no reason for it to be on the podder accessible market interface next to Heat Sinks and Bulk Wheat. I imagine it is listed somewhere in the byzantine labyrinth underlying the 'small electronics' category.

I did deny you, a stated enemy of my corporation's ideals - which include the freedom for individuals to choose what technology they utilize for example - full access to our proprietary design schematics. There is, of course, nothing preventing you from analyzing a chip yourself. I also pointed out to you - repeatedly - that the chip has no remote uplink or downlink capability. In effect, I can't show you that part of the chip because that part of the chip doesn't exist outside your imagination.

The Chip has been repeatedly analyzed by parties outside Naqam and often not friendly to our cause and I've yet to hear of any of them finding anything nefarious in its design. Because despite your paranoia, there is nothing to find. Do you think we are stupid, Mr Ixiris? What would possess a Nation loyal corporation to sell chips with any kind of hidden functions? Even if we wanted a bunch of random civilians on random planets altered somehow - and why would we? - no matter how well designed and hidden, they would be found out.

You claim to support freedom, Mr Ixiris. Yet here you are, threatening bloodshed over a chip who's only purpose is to make people happy, and a program that is both utterly open about its goals and also designed to protect people and give them a better life. thats the problem though, isn't it? You can't stand that your precious Federation might not be everything you desperately want it to be. Because you know, if it isn't, there is no justification for all the things you've done and people you've killed.

Just because it might siphon off a few people from your precious Federation, we must be exterminated in your space? Is it so hard to believe that some people would want to leave? With men like you running around trying to put your boot to their neck and force them to stay, to be free your way? I do hope you weren't threatening to kill the innocent civilians attempting to leave the Federation for the crime of wanting a better life. I would hope to think better - even of you - than that.

Free so long as you follow the party line?

Regardless, while we are trying to build a better world, and turn our influence and power toward a good cause, we are still podders here in Naqam. That means that we are not, when push comes to shove - and you have certainly shoved - nice people. You won't be getting the transports full of refugees (you would no doubt term them traitors to assuage your feelings of guilt over massacring them) or Chips you probably hope for. Both of those - for security reasons - go primarily through civilian channels anyway. What you will get, if we decide you are worth the effort of a clone jump, is Naqam combat pilots.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 07:43:00 - [38]

Mr. Ixiris, I do believe that Silver-haan has gone over - at the very least - a rough description of the chip's functions in another discussion, which I believe to be archived here on the IGS. I cannot recall which one, but it can indeed be found.

I have read over that description myself, and I do believe the only stated function of the chip was along the lines of simple mood alteration. At least, that is what I could glean from it.

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Posted - 2008.07.16 08:02:00 - [39]

Originally by: Yoshitaka Moromuo
Mr. Ixiris, I do believe that Silver-haan has gone over - at the very least - a rough description of the chip's functions in another discussion, which I believe to be archived here on the IGS. I cannot recall which one, but it can indeed be found.

I have read over that description myself, and I do believe the only stated function of the chip was along the lines of simple mood alteration. At least, that is what I could glean from it.


He knows, Mr Moromuo. The problem isn't what the chip does, it's what Mr Ixiris imagines it does. He apparently has a paranoia regarding the Nation that borders on the superstitious.

Thank you, though, for trying to help. Some people just refuse evidence before them because they can't believe it isn't all some fairy tale plot.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 09:44:00 - [40]

Being that I have been attempting for a few years now to reverse engineer the Nation's Slave class implants (my study results should be released soon) I managed to get my hands on some of these NHB Ultra Happy chips in order to see if there was anything correlational between their design and the Slave design to make it easier to study the Slave chips. During these studies I have certainly not noticed anything untoward in the chips. They simply do seem to do as advertised as far as I can tell.

Of course there is the possibility that there is something buried deep in the wetware that escaped my notice but I prefer to stay away from such conspicuous scare mongering as to insist there must be something untoward in them simply based on their production being carried out by supporters of the Nation. Despite my personal feelings towards the Nation based on the relics activities Naqam seems to have produced a product that does exactly what it says it does. Not an implant I would encourage of course as the distraction from the realities lead to further enslavement by those in power.


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Posted - 2008.07.16 10:09:00 - [41]

Mixed Metaphor are going to war dec you?! Run away, run away. Rolling Eyes

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Posted - 2008.07.16 10:13:00 - [42]

Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 16/07/2008 10:15:09
Gods and spirits....

You know you're notorious when you can go to war against Sansha's Nation assets and the weight of public opinion is against you.

That, or Silver Night's propaganda campaign is actually working. This seems marginally unlikely considering the persistent, unsettling undertones, though I've certainly seen people defending Super Happy Chips (as a note, no, I don't think they contain some hidden mind-control device; Silver Night's specialty is public relations, and that sort of holovid-villain plot is the diametric opposite of his approach. What people should be looking at isn't whether the PR devices are dangerous; it's what they're public relations for).

In any event, I, at least, will wish you good hunting. The Nation's capsuleer roster can't be destroyed by the means you intend, but perhaps you can deal it a setback or three.


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Posted - 2008.07.16 10:18:00 - [43]

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 15/07/2008 22:33:13
I object to the term "crochety" nutjob. Rodj Blake is a crochety nutjob. Gaven Lok'ri is a crochety nutjob. Darth Sage is a crochety nutjob. I'm only 25. You can't be crochety until you're at least forty. I'd say I'm closer to a "narcissistic" nutjob.


Leave me out of this, you degenerate piece of filth.


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Posted - 2008.07.16 11:56:00 - [44]

Edited by: Uroborus on 16/07/2008 11:56:35
Originally by: Silver Night
They may increase now, as a pilot or two might move to the Federation just to help illustrate how useless this is.



I'll volunteer to make that pilgrimage.Laughing
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Posted - 2008.07.16 12:48:00 - [45]

Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 16/07/2008 10:15:09
Gods and spirits....

You know you're notorious when you can go to war against Sansha's Nation assets and the weight of public opinion is against you.

That, or Silver Night's propaganda campaign is actually working. This seems marginally unlikely considering the persistent, unsettling undertones, though I've certainly seen people defending Super Happy Chips (as a note, no, I don't think they contain some hidden mind-control device; Silver Night's specialty is public relations, and that sort of holovid-villain plot is the diametric opposite of his approach. What people should be looking at isn't whether the PR devices are dangerous; it's what they're public relations for).

In any event, I, at least, will wish you good hunting. The Nation's capsuleer roster can't be destroyed by the means you intend, but perhaps you can deal it a setback or three.


Please, you can call me Silver, Ms Jenneth.

As to setbacks, anything is possible but I think it fairly unlikely. Honestly my second thought upon seeing this war declaration was that given that we - the capsuleers of Naqam - don't operate much in Gallente space anyway the war declaration would be maintained for a week or so and then Mr Ixiris would declare victory based on the fact that there (still) weren't Naqam pilots in Federation space.

Originally by: Arial Rakon

Mixed Metaphor are going to war dec you?! Run away, run away.



This, I think, largely sums up the feelings about the war declaration, both within and outside of Naqam. With the phrase being sarcastic, I hasten to add. I wouldn't want any particularly pedantic people becoming confused.

To be fair though, until it comes to actual combat, it is hardly fair to judge them. Difficult though it will be, we will I'm sure try and think of Mixed Metaphor as a serious threat and act accordingly. Good practice for the real thing, I suppose, if nothing else.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:18:00 - [46]

Ah, and here was me thinking perhaps Andreus knew something I didn't.

Still, I suppose his point has less to do with the location of your base of operations and more to do with not wanting the Super Happy Chip and its kin sold in Federal space.


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