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Doc Punkiller
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Stormdeath Alot of you have made good points let me address a few.
Ratting Ravens: Please you guys are so scared to run those things in any system but Lj that we no longer have to talk about them. Now you cowards have switched to ratting with carriers equiped with a cyno and a 30 man cap fleet ready to free them when we get a hold of them.
Winning at all cost: I completely agree with this being the way to fight in eve. If you have it use it and win. The problem in this case is that they are not winning. They wasted probly 30-40K iso moving those caps to hot drop on us and it did no good. They got 0 kills. They didn't win that battle they just ended it. We won the battle due to the fact that in the end they expended more isk to fight it that we did!
Corpvs Sucking as an allaince: This is really opinion. Not much proof either way. I will say that to be completly honest I think it is a unfair look at the situation the allaince faces in Curse. We are great pvpers. However we are not a major Capship allaince and currently the only thing that is keeping TCF in Curse space is their cap ship fleet. If they did not have that cap ship fleet we would be whiping them up one side of curse and down the other.
TCF being good pvpers: No they are not. Look at the loses on there Killboards or the kills on ours. The mark of a true pvpers is their ship setup. about 80% of the setups on TCF's losses are CRAP! They don't really beat us that often with regular ships. 90% of the time they drop a dozen caps on us and we leave.
My orginal post was not the clearest. There seems to be a little confusion as to what my intent was. So let me make it clear. Without a capship fllet TCF is not an allaince. They are completly encapable of fighting on a conventional level or any other true aspect of pvp outside of capships. In the end a once proud allaince has become a 3rd Grade bully that picks on the 1st Grades becuase every time he messes with the other 3rd graders he get his backside handed to him!
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:19:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Stormdeath Alot of you have made good points let me address a few.
Ratting Ravens: Please you guys are so scared to run those things in any system but Lj that we no longer have to talk about them. Now you cowards have switched to ratting with carriers equiped with a cyno and a 30 man cap fleet ready to free them when we get a hold of them.
Winning at all cost: I completely agree with this being the way to fight in eve. If you have it use it and win. The problem in this case is that they are not winning. They wasted probly 30-40K iso moving those caps to hot drop on us and it did no good. They got 0 kills. They didn't win that battle they just ended it. We won the battle due to the fact that in the end they expended more isk to fight it that we did!
Corpvs Sucking as an allaince: This is really opinion. Not much proof either way. I will say that to be completly honest I think it is a unfair look at the situation the allaince faces in Curse. We are great pvpers. However we are not a major Capship allaince and currently the only thing that is keeping TCF in Curse space is their cap ship fleet. If they did not have that cap ship fleet we would be whiping them up one side of curse and down the other.
TCF being good pvpers: No they are not. Look at the loses on there Killboards or the kills on ours. The mark of a true pvpers is their ship setup. about 80% of the setups on TCF's losses are CRAP! They don't really beat us that often with regular ships. 90% of the time they drop a dozen caps on us and we leave.
My orginal post was not the clearest. There seems to be a little confusion as to what my intent was. So let me make it clear. Without a capship fllet TCF is not an allaince. They are completly encapable of fighting on a conventional level or any other true aspect of pvp outside of capships. In the end a once proud allaince has become a 3rd Grade bully that picks on the 1st Grades becuase every time he messes with the other 3rd graders he get his backside handed to him!
More like vengeance of the failed. -clp
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Baline Aegis
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:21:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Baline Aegis on 16/07/2008 13:22:43
Originally by: Stormdeath Without a capship fllet TCF is not an allaince.
Maybe, but we DO have a cap fleet. Deal with it. Some alliances put their SPs on flying nano's, some in capital. Check which ones own territories.
Originally by: Stormdeath They are completly encapable of fighting on a conventional level or any other true aspect of pvp outside of capships.
TCF has allways had dozen of carriers, titans, dreads, and will allways have 
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Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:34:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Stormdeath Alot of you have made good points let me address a few.
Ratting Ravens: Please you guys are so scared to run those things in any system but Lj that we no longer have to talk about them. Now you cowards have switched to ratting with carriers equiped with a cyno and a 30 man cap fleet ready to free them when we get a hold of them.
Winning at all cost: I completely agree with this being the way to fight in eve. If you have it use it and win. The problem in this case is that they are not winning. They wasted probly 30-40K iso moving those caps to hot drop on us and it did no good. They got 0 kills. They didn't win that battle they just ended it. We won the battle due to the fact that in the end they expended more isk to fight it that we did!
Corpvs Sucking as an allaince: This is really opinion. Not much proof either way. I will say that to be completly honest I think it is a unfair look at the situation the allaince faces in Curse. We are great pvpers. However we are not a major Capship allaince and currently the only thing that is keeping TCF in Curse space is their cap ship fleet. If they did not have that cap ship fleet we would be whiping them up one side of curse and down the other.
TCF being good pvpers: No they are not. Look at the loses on there Killboards or the kills on ours. The mark of a true pvpers is their ship setup. about 80% of the setups on TCF's losses are CRAP! They don't really beat us that often with regular ships. 90% of the time they drop a dozen caps on us and we leave.
My orginal post was not the clearest. There seems to be a little confusion as to what my intent was. So let me make it clear. Without a capship fllet TCF is not an allaince. They are completly encapable of fighting on a conventional level or any other true aspect of pvp outside of capships. In the end a once proud allaince has become a 3rd Grade bully that picks on the 1st Grades becuase every time he messes with the other 3rd graders he get his backside handed to him!
LOL what are you smocking ??
Facts just facts : Anyone is free to go on Section XIII KB (google : section xiii killboard) to check how YOUR WHOLE ALLIANCE is good against only ONE CORP of TCF as we are your opponent in hale.
PS : Our kb is appied so don't say we are not posting our loose.
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Andrei Vassaliev
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:35:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Stormdeath Alot of you have made good points let me address a few.
Ratting Ravens: Please you guys are so scared to run those things in any system but Lj that we no longer have to talk about them. Now you cowards have switched to ratting with carriers equiped with a cyno and a 30 man cap fleet ready to free them when we get a hold of them.
Winning at all cost: I completely agree with this being the way to fight in eve. If you have it use it and win. The problem in this case is that they are not winning. They wasted probly 30-40K iso moving those caps to hot drop on us and it did no good. They got 0 kills. They didn't win that battle they just ended it. We won the battle due to the fact that in the end they expended more isk to fight it that we did!
Corpvs Sucking as an allaince: This is really opinion. Not much proof either way. I will say that to be completly honest I think it is a unfair look at the situation the allaince faces in Curse. We are great pvpers. However we are not a major Capship allaince and currently the only thing that is keeping TCF in Curse space is their cap ship fleet. If they did not have that cap ship fleet we would be whiping them up one side of curse and down the other.
TCF being good pvpers: No they are not. Look at the loses on there Killboards or the kills on ours. The mark of a true pvpers is their ship setup. about 80% of the setups on TCF's losses are CRAP! They don't really beat us that often with regular ships. 90% of the time they drop a dozen caps on us and we leave.
My orginal post was not the clearest. There seems to be a little confusion as to what my intent was. So let me make it clear. Without a capship fllet TCF is not an allaince. They are completly encapable of fighting on a conventional level or any other true aspect of pvp outside of capships. In the end a once proud allaince has become a 3rd Grade bully that picks on the 1st Grades becuase every time he messes with the other 3rd graders he get his backside handed to him!
So? If TCF is so crappy, and if you are so great PvPers, why do you spend so much time to justify yourself? You sounds like :frustration: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: Advice: relax, go doing a pooh
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Lumen Atra
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:46:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Stormdeath Alot of you have made good points let me address a few.
Ratting Ravens: Please you guys are so scared to run those things in any system but Lj that we no longer have to talk about them. Now you cowards have switched to ratting with carriers equiped with a cyno and a 30 man cap fleet ready to free them when we get a hold of them.
Quote:
TCF being good pvpers: No they are not. Look at the loses on there Killboards or the kills on ours. The mark of a true pvpers is their ship setup. about 80% of the setups on TCF's losses are CRAP! They don't really beat us that often with regular ships. 90% of the time they drop a dozen caps on us and we leave.
Ratting ships aren't pvp ships! Breaking news at 11!
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Winning at all cost: I completely agree with this being the way to fight in eve. If you have it use it and win. The problem in this case is that they are not winning. They wasted probly 30-40K iso moving those caps to hot drop on us and it did no good. They got 0 kills. They didn't win that battle they just ended it. We won the battle due to the fact that in the end they expended more isk to fight it that we did!
This is what we call a moving goal post. You are an idiot if you think winning has anything to do with isk expended. By that logic, almost any fleet or gang that is bigger than another automatically loses.
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Corpvs Sucking as an allaince: This is really opinion. Not much proof either way. I will say that to be completly honest I think it is a unfair look at the situation the allaince faces in Curse. We are great pvpers. However we are not a major Capship allaince and currently the only thing that is keeping TCF in Curse space is their cap ship fleet. If they did not have that cap ship fleet we would be whiping them up one side of curse and down the other.
"If only that other team would do this and this, then we would win, therefore we are not shit!" Sorry bud, it doesn't work that way. You suck giant, hairy, sweaty balls.
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My orginal post was not the clearest. There seems to be a little confusion as to what my intent was. So let me make it clear. Without a capship fllet TCF is not an allaince. They are completly encapable of fighting on a conventional level or any other true aspect of pvp outside of capships. In the end a once proud allaince has become a 3rd Grade bully that picks on the 1st Grades becuase every time he messes with the other 3rd graders he get his backside handed to him!
This doesn't make any sense at all. First you say you ARE equal to TFC - in fact, you claim to be better! Now you claim they aren't as good as their "equals" so have to pick on lesser people - you? This ignores the fact that TFC engages far better alliances than whatever crap you are. You are pretty deluded to think you are even close to equal to TFC in any way, shape, or form. I want some of your meds though - sounds like a pretty good trip.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 13:51:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Stormdeath
However we are not a major Capship allaince and currently the only thing that is keeping TCF in Curse space is their cap ship fleet. If they did not have that cap ship fleet we would be whiping them up one side of curse and down the other.
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TCF being good pvpers: No they are not. Look at the loses on there Killboards or the kills on ours. The mark of a true pvpers is their ship setup. about 80% of the setups on TCF's losses are CRAP! They don't really beat us that often with regular ships. 90% of the time they drop a dozen caps on us and we leave.
I bow to the superior wisdom and skill of the pilot who came up with fits like this:
http://killboard.tauceti-federation.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=79402
Notice anything missing?
But it's ok. After a look at your killboard, I understand why you're suc ha big fan of us. Losing that rorqual must have hurt. ------------------------------------------
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Stormdeath
Vengeance of the Fallen CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:05:00 -
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I thought I made it vlear that any opinion coming from a person with goon***** in there name was worthless!
Stop trying to twist my words so as to make your buddies look stronger than they are. Have you noticed that most of the posts that are trying to rip me down come from TCF and their so called freinds(this week).
[FYI Goon weekly changes who there freinds are and then sicks their buddy(Evil Thug/AAA) on them becuase if they don't keep AAA supplied with people to kill then AAA will come after goons. Soon Goons will be left with RA and themsleves. Would Who AAA will go after first?]
Remmeber that abunch of people banded together to defeat BOB and fight for something in the south. Now look at it! So sad! I would perfer BOB back. At least we always knew they were *****s instead of freinds who turned into greedy *****s. Wonder that.
I sorry if it seemed like I was bragging as that was not my intention.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:12:00 -
[69]
Pilot details - Stormdeath Corporation:Vengeance of the FallenAlliance:CORPVS DELICTI Kills:3Real kills:3 Losses:7Real losses:6 Damage dealt (ISK):135MDamage taken (ISK):2.07B ISK efficiency:6.14%ISK ratio:0.07M : 1M Kill / loss efficiency:33.33%Kill / loss ratio:0.5 : 1
look at this pr0 player -clp
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Mud Pandemonium
Minmatar Trainwreck INC.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:17:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Stormdeath I thought I made it vlear that any opinion coming from a person with goon***** in there name was worthless!
Stop trying to twist my words so as to make your buddies look stronger than they are. Have you noticed that most of the posts that are trying to rip me down come from TCF and their so called freinds(this week).
[FYI Goon weekly changes who there freinds are and then sicks their buddy(Evil Thug/AAA) on them becuase if they don't keep AAA supplied with people to kill then AAA will come after goons. Soon Goons will be left with RA and themsleves. Would Who AAA will go after first?]
Remmeber that abunch of people banded together to defeat BOB and fight for something in the south. Now look at it! So sad! I would perfer BOB back. At least we always knew they were *****s instead of freinds who turned into greedy *****s. Wonder that.
I sorry if it seemed like I was bragging as that was not my intention.
You got it all wrong, Goons are the lesser of two evils.
Goons will treat you like dirt, slap you around with their other allies, publicly ridicule you all leading up to the inevitable backstab.
They just won't charge you billions of ISK per month and call it a privilege.
As for who AAA will go after first? Theres plenty of pew pew left for them without even having to think about attacking Goons or RA. Why would they go to Red Lobster when they could just order off the 99 cent menu at McDonalds?
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J Jugger
Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:17:00 -
[71]
Edited by: J Jugger on 16/07/2008 14:25:43 So let's discuss about ... pvp ? :D
http://killboard.tauceti-federation.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=83751 Here is their official elite jammer fitting \o/
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Andrei Vassaliev
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:20:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Pilot details - Stormdeath Corporation:Vengeance of the FallenAlliance:CORPVS DELICTI Kills:3Real kills:3 Losses:7Real losses:6 Damage dealt (ISK):135MDamage taken (ISK):2.07B ISK efficiency:6.14%ISK ratio:0.07M : 1M Kill / loss efficiency:33.33%Kill / loss ratio:0.5 : 1
look at this pr0 player
Your opinion is worthless, said the nBeR-R0xXxoR-Stormdeath-0f-d00M.
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Andrei Vassaliev
Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:23:00 -
[73]
Originally by: J Jugger Edited by: J Jugger on 16/07/2008 14:17:41 So discuss about ... pvp ? :D
http://killboard.tauceti-federation.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=83751 Here is their official elite jammer fitting \o/
Pffff, he died only 'cause you blobbed him, crappy TCFs 
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Doc Punkiller
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:24:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Doc Punkiller on 16/07/2008 14:25:01
Originally by: J Jugger
So discuss about ... pvp ? :D
http://killboard.tauceti-federation.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=83751 Here is their official elite jammer fitting \o/
1mn ab on a vexor, because speed kills
http://killboard.sectionxiii.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=31631 Signature removed. Inappropriate. Navigator |

kworld
modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:27:00 -
[75]
Edited by: kworld on 16/07/2008 14:28:19
Originally by: Doc Punkiller Edited by: Doc Punkiller on 16/07/2008 14:25:01
1mn ab on a vexor, because speed kills
http://killboard.sectionxiii.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=31631
So?
It's easily done i must admit i have accidentally put the wrong type of mwd on before a fight, no one is perfect.
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Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:28:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Pilot details - Stormdeath Corporation:Vengeance of the FallenAlliance:CORPVS DELICTI Kills:3Real kills:3 Losses:7Real losses:6 Damage dealt (ISK):135MDamage taken (ISK):2.07B ISK efficiency:6.14%ISK ratio:0.07M : 1M Kill / loss efficiency:33.33%Kill / loss ratio:0.5 : 1
look at this pr0 player
Yes we are really fearing him and all docking when he show in local.. 
PS : he didn't want this rorqual anyway :)
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:32:00 -
[77]
VOTF is bitter about goons because they think we didn't care about them when AAA attacked KOS.
This is quite simply not true. We found it, in fact, very funny. -clp
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Wulfgard
Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:40:00 -
[78]
Sad to see the name VOTF dragged into this pettyness, in memory of the ancient crew, you could and should change corp...
The VOTF I fought during my time in FA was of totally different caliber 
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Karunel
Princeps Corp T e r c i o s
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:41:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Fantome
LOL what are you smocking ??
Facts just facts : Anyone is free to go on Section XIII KB (google : section xiii killboard) to check how YOUR WHOLE ALLIANCE is good against only ONE CORP of TCF as we are your opponent in hale.
PS : Our kb is appied so don't say we are not posting our loose.
So what you are saying is we should go look to a killboard that will show all your kills against their whole alliance while only showing your corp losses.
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Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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N'olive
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:44:00 -
[80]
I think this Stormdeath dude just performed the Internet equivalent of removing the safety pin of a grenade, swallowing it, and then starting to explain he's really smart 
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:45:00 -
[81]
VOTF lost their friendly standings with the RSF because they are:
- Unable to respect the terms their diplo agree on when it come to who farm where.
- Freeloaders. How many of them went south to fight Bob? Not a single one.
- Have much bigger egos than their pvp skills can back up.
The old VOTF was a rather good corp. But since their CEO (don't remember his name) resigned in disgust, VOTF sank to downright pathetic levels. The current one is a disgrace to the old VOTF. ------------------------------------------
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kworld
modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:47:00 -
[82]
Originally by: N'olive I think this Stormdeath dude just performed the Internet equivalent of removing the safety pin of a grenade, swallowing it, and then starting to explain he's really smart 
Well IAC are no better prob worse actually this is what happens to an IAC interceptor gang when they face bs's.
http://www.corpvsdelicti.110mb.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2916
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N'olive
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:55:00 -
[83]
Stop it seriously you're only making it worse, picking a random link like this to a killboard is meaningless, many people here are older than 14, you're digging your own grave. Prior to this day I had no idea who exactly was your alliance/corp, now thanks to your combined PR effort, we all know, it's ok, we get the picture fine  _______________ Olivier C., providing fleet support since 1902 - IAC's french wing, unique member - My Eve videos |

Ysalis
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 14:59:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Shadowsword
I bow to the superior wisdom and skill of the pilot who came up with fits like this:
http://killboard.tauceti-federation.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=79402
Notice anything missing?
But it's ok. After a look at your killboard, I understand why you're suc ha big fan of us. Losing that rorqual must have hurt.
Damn i wasn't on this one ... 
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Karylia
Section XIII
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:07:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Stormdeath They didn't win that battle they just ended it.
A battle? What battle ?
Undock, Dock, Undock, Dock, Undock, Dock etc. Is not a battle. Come speak about pvp when you and your corpmates will be capable to engage somewhere else that near a station and we can discuss, but I doubt it. You are not pvpers, you are mission runners, it's useless to offer a beautiful fight to carebears.
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Maus Bailey
International House of PWNCakes Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:52:00 -
[86]
Quote: Well IAC are..
prolly drunk.
Serious, 'x up your lager' is asked far more often than ship types.
On the brightside, we've got tonnes of empty beer bottles lying around that we can smash over fool's heads :) |

Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:57:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Fantome on 16/07/2008 15:58:24 And to make one things more accurate Corpus never got hotdropped by TCF caps fleet but only by just a part of Section XIII's one has always been involved (they are established in Curse in same constellation than SXIII)and it can be checked easily.
This alliance can't fight a single corp's fleet and keep crying, that shows how great they are.
One more example if needed : when SXIII catched OP's rorqual in J4- at least 15 of their mates where 2 jumps aways in BPK docked, some with caps : they stayed docked and never tried to help him (except : one iskur ).
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Ethan Tomlinson
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.07.16 16:21:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Wulfgard Sad to see the name VOTF dragged into this pettyness, in memory of the ancient crew, you could and should change corp...
The VOTF I fought during my time in FA was of totally different caliber 
QFT
it is really sad to see the corps name dragged through the dirt... VOTF in they olden days was a fierce corp of skilled individuals. It is sad to see the old guard has passed the corp on to recruits with such poor PR and PVP skills...
CORPVS DELICTI i would not respond to anything else in this thread because you will only be failing harder.
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Ishmael WH
Destruction Reborn
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Posted - 2008.07.16 16:38:00 -
[89]
Sorry about some of this guys, quite personally I thin kit an honor to have a titan dropped on me.
I was honored when TCF let their Aeon mom loose against myself and an alliance mate cause their small roaming gang couldn't break my tank or my buddies. You use the materials needed to get the job done so well played to TCF.
Doesn't that mean I like getting my stuff blown up by them? Nah, it's part of the game I get that just gets me geared up for when it's our time.
Keep it coming guys, I'm having fun!!! _______________________________________________

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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 16:51:00 -
[90]
http://www.corpvsdelicti.110mb.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3629

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