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poo den
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:08:00 - [1]

This is a just unfair to the people who enjoy eve but have real lives also...
Please bring back the 30day and 90day GTC........
sign this forum and show your support..
Please just sign your character name..

whatchagonnado
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:12:00 - [2]

not like it will make 1 iota of a diffrence,


but signed
Stealth Link
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:12:00 - [3]

Stealth Link, Stealth Raden, Lanii
Eegleyz
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:18:00 - [4]

running 3 accounts is too high now .bring them back before i find another game to play
Lorduff
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:19:00 - [5]

I'd like them back too this is a bit expensive since i don't have alot time to play
john roe
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:21:00 - [6]

o/ me and Gazyllion of my alts sign in here.

wtb 90s.

cheers
Urgoz Sujun
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:33:00 - [7]

Yes Indeed The Days of 3 Accounts are Comming to an End for Player who Have a family !!!
EIixibren
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:34:00 - [8]

I kind of like the new pricing with just having 60-Days.
Skelator0311
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:42:00 - [9]

200 million per account per month is a fair price to pay.

30 day 200 mill
60 day 400 mill
90 day 600 mill

What ccp can do is charge less real money for the 90 and 60 day but the time code guys can benefit by keeping the isk price the same.

That being said I will still look for the cheapest seller and buy from them.
poo den
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:46:00 - [10]

Originally by: Skelator0311
200 million per account per month is a fair price to pay.

30 day 200 mill
60 day 400 mill
90 day 600 mill

What ccp can do is charge less real money for the 90 and 60 day but the time code guys can benefit by keeping the isk price the same.

That being said I will still look for the cheapest seller and buy from them.

yea but its hard for alot of people to get the 400 mil isk, wich i have yet to see more like 430-450mil
why not just bring back the 30day GTC
Shroom Shaman
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:52:00 - [11]

Edited by: Shroom Shaman on 16/07/2008 15:52:23
the best pvp game is simply becaming another lineage or wow...
no pvp, just farming isk...
Mattias Renholm
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:57:00 - [12]

Signed!
Zark off
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Posted - 2008.07.16 15:58:00 - [13]

Over the past month i have paid over ú200 on gtc.i would not pay for a 60 day gtc if i had to sell it for under 420mil,450mil so they would lose me.
Delrik Johanian
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Posted - 2008.07.16 16:05:00 - [14]

Originally by: Zark off
Over the past month i have paid over ú200 on gtc.i would not pay for a 60 day gtc if i had to sell it for under 420mil,450mil so they would lose me.
Good, less sellers increases demand and prices go up! I assume this is what's causing the current jump, as alot more [WTB]'s are showing up over [WTS]'s.
Joseph Marsh
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Posted - 2008.07.16 16:36:00 - [15]

Because the GTC can be traded for ISK everybody is complaining about the insane ISK prices for GTC and with all this madness nobody is realizing two things: The price per month on a GTC has incresed from 14.95 to 17.5 dollars. And why CCP has made this move?

I think i have the answer. The biggest problem in EVE is the lag. The lag is due to large amount of players on the same server. By incresing the price of GTC many players will leave, but also the higher price will compensate, in terms of profits, this players. So the cluster is less lagy but CCP will make the same profits, or even more. Not to mention that this move is a direct hit to all the players from Europe. That is because if i pay by credit card i will pay 23 dollars, bu i had the option to buy a 30 day GTC with 14.95 dollar + VAT. Now this option has gone and my only to options are to pay 23 dollars for 1 month or 34.99 + VAT for 2 months.

In the end i think this is a little experiment. The GTC trade will affect a small amount of players, and CCP want to see if the increase of price will really compensate for the leaving players, and if this will work I am sure that in the near future they will increase also the credit card and pay by cash subscriptions. And from them it will be a good thing. Instead of investing money in servers upgrades, they can lower the server population and making the same profits in this time (if not more).
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Posted - 2008.07.16 16:43:00 - [16]

want to buy
30 day 200 mill
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Steky
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Posted - 2008.07.16 17:08:00 - [17]

yeah bring back 90 d gtc Twisted Evil
Trade two
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Posted - 2008.07.16 17:21:00 - [18]

bring back 90 d gtc!!
JcJet
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Posted - 2008.07.16 17:25:00 - [19]

Edited by: JcJet on 16/07/2008 17:25:40
its useles, but... /signed
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Posted - 2008.07.16 17:26:00 - [20]

signed
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Posted - 2008.07.16 17:41:00 - [21]

Signed.
Belmarduk
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Posted - 2008.07.16 17:53:00 - [22]

/signed
CCP Please give us casual players a Skill-Queue !
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Posted - 2008.07.16 17:59:00 - [23]

signed!
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Posted - 2008.07.16 18:01:00 - [24]

signed!
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Posted - 2008.07.16 18:03:00 - [25]

Originally by: Urgoz Sujun
Yes Indeed The Days of 3 Accounts are Comming to an End for Player who Have a family !!!


/signed, because of this very truthful fact here.


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Posted - 2008.07.16 18:28:00 - [26]

signed
Pinel
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Posted - 2008.07.16 18:56:00 - [27]

signed
Shroom Shaman
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Posted - 2008.07.16 18:59:00 - [28]

Originally by: Urgoz Sujun
Yes Indeed The Days of 3 Accounts are Comming to an End for Player who Have a family !!!

the days of 1 account for good pvp are coming to the end for players who have just a real life, not only eve...
HeoKpom
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Posted - 2008.07.16 18:59:00 - [29]

I don't care to pay 370mil for 90d or 400mil for 60d, but for my 400mil isk I'd like to have battles without lags!!!

signed
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Posted - 2008.07.16 19:01:00 - [30]

Captain Apoc
/Signed
The Apocalypse
MC dragos
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Posted - 2008.07.16 19:12:00 - [31]

signed
Shroom Shaman
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Posted - 2008.07.16 19:30:00 - [32]

God! i can't buy f*ckn gtc for the f*ckn 400kk!!! may i sign for the second time? =\
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Posted - 2008.07.16 19:39:00 - [33]

signed!
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Posted - 2008.07.16 19:41:00 - [34]

Grind-Online

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Posted - 2008.07.16 20:15:00 - [35]

signed X
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Posted - 2008.07.16 20:30:00 - [36]

Edited by: Aisa Ahgor on 16/07/2008 20:30:25
Signed

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Todo Akamura
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Posted - 2008.07.16 20:40:00 - [37]

signed.
i closed 1 acc already coz of gtc prices :(


Our corp is recruiting, don't miss your chance!
DMF Bive
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Posted - 2008.07.16 21:35:00 - [38]

signed
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Posted - 2008.07.16 21:39:00 - [39]

Yes im signing toooooo i want my 30 day 1s back for my alt =[
DaGreeK
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Posted - 2008.07.16 21:42:00 - [40]

signed
Albya
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Posted - 2008.07.16 21:46:00 - [41]

/Signed
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Posted - 2008.07.16 22:31:00 - [42]

Edited by: ChrisDeath on 16/07/2008 22:32:53

signed!
EMO Hawtsauce
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Posted - 2008.07.16 22:37:00 - [43]

/signed
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Posted - 2008.07.16 22:38:00 - [44]

I will soon be moving two of my 7 active accounts then they expire. Please do bring the 30/90 days GTC's back.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 22:52:00 - [45]

signed
Zinnn
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Posted - 2008.07.16 23:14:00 - [46]

Put simply, the prices are going higher and I think CCP wanted to make the price a little higher while changing the prices in eve for timecards. I'm pretty sure they exploited the fact that people can't seem to get math right. For the people who like 90 days, they complain - why? Because it's like you got an extra month free for buying 2 months. For those that like the 30 day, it's because it's in easier to manage chunks. I still don't see why the isk price wouldn't go up with the actual dollar price going up. Still, I really enjoyed the 90 day timecards, and I mean a lot! I'm not saying that what CCP did was totally wrong, but it definately doesn't fit my buying habits - I like variety, and I have NO variety with this current setup! And I mean eve is all about variety and choice.
Seijitsu Nakama
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Posted - 2008.07.16 23:28:00 - [47]

Simply put. I completely agree with the theme of this thread. I just viewed this forum for the first time in months and I am by no means a poor player. I support multipule accounts and I sub 90day GTC's on each constantly. Well, all of my accounts are needing resubing and after seeing these prices I'm beginning to wager the costs against just using my debit card. These prices are absolutely absurd to what they used to be. 90day GTC's were at one point 360mill. 640 now? Gtfo.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 23:37:00 - [48]

signed
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Posted - 2008.07.16 23:41:00 - [49]

signed
Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2008.07.17 00:50:00 - [50]

This issue was taken up by the Council of Stellar Management as an unofficial issue to CCP in Reykjavik during the 3 day conference in mid-June. In short, it is a commercial issue for CCP, and not open to discussion.



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Minmatar

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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:08:00 - [51]

just to state, those who thing this was a way to remove lag, that doesn't even make sense... Most alts are mission runners/miners/industrial chars, and well fleet lag is the current issue which means ~97% of alts don't ever see a fleet battle and thus don't cause lag. The thing is, that older established players aren't going to loose much, this mostly screwed up the newer players who already have a hard time catching up.

but hey... that's just me, whatever floats CCPs boat I say, it's not going to change anything I'm afraid.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 01:54:00 - [52]

Originally by: Serenity Steele
This issue was taken up by the Council of Stellar Management as an unofficial issue to CCP in Reykjavik during the 3 day conference in mid-June. In short, it is a commercial issue for CCP, and not open to discussion.




and the if people want it reopened then as a csm member you should bring it back up. not like this is the right forum for discussing this type of thing Rolling Eyes

Zinnn
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Posted - 2008.07.17 03:44:00 - [53]

Commercial issue = CCP needs more cash. I"m cool with that, but 90 day timecards allow me to not have to resubscribe as often, or buy as many cards. I personally don't care about the literal cost as I do care about the isk cost and subscription duration. This way with the 60 day timecards, it means I have to do 50% more ordering of timecards. I can understand not bringing back the 30 day timecards - people can't just give a character isk and make a hulk character within 45 days which I've heard is possible, so I mean if it means getting more subscription money into CCP's pockets I understand, but is that going to offset the amount of people willing to cancel accounts over this issue? no... So basically I guess I'm saying I just don't understand the point of the 60 day timecard decision.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 03:48:00 - [54]

lol not like theyll do anything. but still.. i need a damn 30 day!!!
Sun'Tzu Yin
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Posted - 2008.07.17 04:08:00 - [55]

/me signs
James Lister
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Posted - 2008.07.17 04:34:00 - [56]

I like options. Bring back the multiple options, please. Ignore all the whining about fake WTB orders and greedy players. Listen to your customers. As you pointed out this is commercial not game balance, and affects only a small percentage of players. I'd love to see the cost-benefit analysis on this one. Or at least an honest answer that makes it sound like some logic drove the decision.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 05:27:00 - [57]

Edited by: Caramel Brownie on 17/07/2008 05:38:50
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DooPeeh
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i have closed a third alt account and further will follow due the 60d GTC only strategy. 60d gtcs are flexible like steel :(


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signed
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Signed.


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Posted - 2008.07.17 06:53:00 - [60]

Signed!!11one!1one Twisted Evil
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Signed
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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:01:00 - [62]

i concur

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Posted - 2008.07.17 08:04:00 - [63]

signed

Seijitsu Nakama
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Posted - 2008.07.17 09:29:00 - [64]

Originally by: Serenity Steele
This issue was taken up by the Council of Stellar Management as an unofficial issue to CCP in Reykjavik during the 3 day conference in mid-June. In short, it is a commercial issue for CCP, and not open to discussion.




Cute, its not open for discussion? So the player base's opinion must mean less than people sitting around a desk gonig, "lets make it easy. 60day gtcs It won't ruin the market at all!".

Don't give me that crap. Explain why it was an "economical choice" for CCP and maybe we'll find it easier to justify having such an inflated GTC market.
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SignedLaughing
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:09:00 - [66]

Edited by: Soronova on 17/07/2008 11:09:24
Yeah, a clear response from CCP to the obvious anger amongst the player base would be nice. But it's never happened yet, so I wont hold my breath.

But fully SIGNED!
eliminator2
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:28:00 - [67]

CCP have allready made there answer here http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=819340

as u will see CCP have decided the best thing to do for its players is to keep the price's high and stay as 1 GTC which is the 60 day which nearly no one use's and i would like to ask wat do CCP do with all thoughs millions they earn allready THIEVING GITS

signed btw bring them back
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:21:00 - [69]

signed!!!
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:32:00 - [70]

+1.YARRRR!! Signed!!!
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:35:00 - [71]

\o/ signed
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