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Sir Question
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.07.17 10:46:00 -
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As capsuleers we are blessed with unprecedented power and opportunity matched with ability to carve our own destinies. The colour of our skin, ethnicity of our parents or religious beliefs matter not when confronted with the cold hard vacuum of space. Out there no one can hear us laugh.
These opportunities give us power. Taking that power gives us rights. Those that take these rights must accept the associated responsibility.
My neocom does not identify accents, I have no idea if the person I am speaking to is Caldari, Amaar or even Jove (which of us would ever know?). What does identify him is his actions (You know who I am talking about low-sec scumbacks û my beautiful Thorax is no moreà).
An ancient moral dilemma has come down through history about the soldier and his right to choose to obey or not. In order for a navy to work the soldier must follow orders, but the orders do not absolve him of the responsibility of his actions. It is not acceptable to rely on æI was following ordersÆ as a defence for actions reprehensible to humanity.
The continuous leaking of information on the motivations of the Caldari State leadership must sit uneasily with those that are proud of their history. There is a place that one can take that pride and live with a head held high, that is the Federation.
The Federation is an idea, it accepts all comers, it is not Gallente, it is not Intakki, it is a beautiful idea that welcomes everyone willing to accept freedom, diversity and opportunity for all. Your Caldari ethnicity might raise eyebrows in the corner shop but your Federation citizenship will see you served. The Federation isnÆt perfect, but it is the least worst system I have seen in my travels across the galaxy.
Quit the State Militia and come join us in the Federation, there is space for everyone. Hopefully one day you will be able to restore the State that you were so proud off.
Sir Question
Peaceful Restoration of Political Actuality Guild (also Non Disclosure Accredited) |
D'ceet
Shadows of the Dead
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.17 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: D''ceet on 17/07/2008 11:53:54
sorry, i cant hear your "quit the caldari" over the sound of my missile batteries. on a side note, Drakes with F.O.F missiles and a strong shield, can really make someone's day bad.
edit: and by joining the Federation, you are damning the State. think about it. if the Federation get enough numbers for another push on the caldari, you have successfully stolen all available pilots for defence. the state will fall. what you speak of, is destruction.
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.07.17 12:20:00 -
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If you ask me, the best way to defend a nation is to fight on its behalf.
There are a number of Caldari who have joined the FDU and are claiming to fight to defend the State. Those pilots are idiots - how can you protect something by firing missiles at it?
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Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |
Drethon
Gallente
Selinir
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Posted - 2008.07.17 13:15:00 -
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When a nation's leaders do more harm than good, that nation's leaders must be removed. If they will not leave peacefully, they must be removed forcibly.
I am not at war with the Caldari people. I take no joys in shooting at Caldari except in defense of those who they attack. I am at war with the Caldari leaders who decided killing people who never hurt a single Caldari was acceptable.
Any Caldari who wish to fight with the Gallente in order to work towards removing the leaders who wanted this war are heroes to me.
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Val Sharen
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.17 17:52:00 -
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Actually the better way to save the State and the other empires is by doing something they fear. Something they fear beyond comprehension and have used this war to do.
They have turned capsuleer against capsuleer. They are not fighting the war WE are. None of the empires can afford a war, so as ever in human history it is being fought by proxy. They sidestepped the rules with CONCORD's help and now we are fighting.
We, the capsuleers, can accomplish everything from ending the war to solving the problems simply.
We do not fight for the empires, we stop all the transportation for them, anything and everything we can stop and bring them to their knees economically and militarily.
We can do this, we combined have more money then the empires, more power and more skill all we need is the wherewithal to do it and make them talk instead of wasting lives, resources and money.
Yet instead it is a shame we fight for those too afraid to fight for themselves.
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.20 06:11:00 -
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Open letter to OP
A person is, first and foremost, identified by his Race. There is no moral dillema here besides the federation and it's pet republic getting rightfully crushed. Thank you for taking your precious time to repeat the blatant misinformation and lies the SCOPE is surely showing down your throat.
THE STATE PREVAILS! |
Hero Crane
Bilge Rats of Tortuga
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Posted - 2008.07.20 06:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Fabien Aldric
Open letter to OP
A person is, first and foremost, identified by his Race. There is no moral dillema here besides the federation and it's pet republic getting rightfully crushed. Thank you for taking your precious time to repeat the blatant misinformation and lies the SCOPE is surely showing down your throat.
:\ *sigh...only an indoctrinated fool would spout such ignorance. To say a person must be first and foremost defined by their race only perpetuates the cycle of racial strife that divides us all. Hell, if wat you said were true...i'd still be living pretty in caldari space and probably fighting for that murderous coward you call Heth. But no, I decided to fight for liberty instead of oppression and, like wise, we all must make our own choices...not just follow blindly as a mad man pulls the leash.
As such, if it is truly YOUR decision to fight for the state, I respect and honor you, Aldric...and I pray the moment never comes where I must end you on the battlefield.
*bows*
Fight for Justice...All Hail Freedom...LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.20 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hero Crane
:\ *sigh...only an indoctrinated fool would spout such ignorance. To say a person must be first and foremost defined by their race only perpetuates the cycle of racial strife that divides us all. Hell, if wat you said were true...i'd still be living pretty in caldari space and probably fighting for that murderous coward you call Heth. But no, I decided to fight for liberty instead of oppression and, like wise, we all must make our own choices...not just follow blindly as a mad man pulls the leash.
As such, if it is truly YOUR decision to fight for the state, I respect and honor you, Aldric...and I pray the moment never comes where I must end you on the battlefield.
*bows*
Fight for Justice...All Hail Freedom...LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION
Wait, you claim you fight for our freedom, yet you're helping the federation oppress the Caldari State again? You must be on drugs they're paying you with. Race traitors like you disgust me. No matter who's leading the State and for what purpose, every Caldari should stand defend it! If fools like you ran the first war, we'd still be in the federation...
THE STATE PREVAILS! |
Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.07.20 10:36:00 -
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You need to calm down, Aldric-haan. It's getting difficult to grasp your real message through all the rage.
I think I agree with you, but there's so much berserk fury in your comments that I can't be sure.
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Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |
Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.20 10:54:00 -
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Crane: Racial strife divides us because the Gallente are promoting their sick idea of "racial equality" (which is just a ploy to rob the Amarr of their rightful slaves), and the people of the sane Races of EVE are obviously above considering themselves as anywhere near as low as the gallente decadent s****and the matari who blindly follow the federation since to fight the fictitious "threat" they were indoctrinated to believe the Amarrian empire poses.
THE STATE PREVAILS! |
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Zeon Mackie
Caldari
Global Dominion Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.07.20 11:14:00 -
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As a neutral party, I have had little involvement in this so called "war" between races.
The only fighting I see is between capsuleers.
We capsuleers should unite together as one front and forge our own destiny, rather than fighting as proxies for those unwilling to actually fight themselves.
We are the beginning, and we are the end.
United as one.
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.20 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zeon Mackie
As a neutral party, I have had little involvement in this so called "war" between races.
The only fighting I see is between capsuleers.
We capsuleers should unite together as one front and forge our own destiny, rather than fighting as proxies for those unwilling to actually fight themselves.
We are the beginning, and we are the end.
United as one.
This is primarily a Race war and, by proxy, a war for low-sec resources.
THE STATE PREVAILS! |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.20 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Question
The Federation is an idea, it accepts all comers, it is not Gallente, it is not Intakki, it is a beautiful idea that welcomes everyone willing to accept freedom, diversity and opportunity for all.
No, the Federation is gullible to believe the 'Freedom' they claim to provide is little more than a propaganda machine.
To many Gallente, freedom means their way, and they'll try to shove it down your throat just for having a different perspective. That's not Freedom; but Oppression.
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Hero Crane
Bilge Rats of Tortuga
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Posted - 2008.07.20 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Fabien Aldric
Originally by: Hero Crane
:\ *sigh...only an indoctrinated fool would spout such ignorance. To say a person must be first and foremost defined by their race only perpetuates the cycle of racial strife that divides us all. Hell, if wat you said were true...i'd still be living pretty in caldari space and probably fighting for that murderous coward you call Heth. But no, I decided to fight for liberty instead of oppression and, like wise, we all must make our own choices...not just follow blindly as a mad man pulls the leash.
As such, if it is truly YOUR decision to fight for the state, I respect and honor you, Aldric...and I pray the moment never comes where I must end you on the battlefield.
*bows*
Fight for Justice...All Hail Freedom...LONG LIVE THE FEDERATION
Wait, you claim you fight for our freedom, yet you're helping the federation oppress the Caldari State again? You must be on drugs they're paying you with. Race traitors like you disgust me. No matter who's leading the State and for what purpose, every Caldari should stand defend it! If fools like you ran the first war, we'd still be in the federation...
I fight for freedom for all men and women who desire it and yet cannot fight for themselves, to spread the ideals of liberty. Now, are there leaders in the Federation that have corrupted this ideal in order to preach the madness of oppressing and destroying State? Yes. But, these are only a handful of people just as the rampaging murderers who preach destruction and hate within the Caldari nation are just...a handful. I'd never paint you all with the same brush, you shouldn't do the same with those who fight for the Federation.
Paid in drugs you say? I think you're confusing me with a slave of the Amarr who hops on command to get a periodic dose of Vitoc to survive.
Race traitor!?!?...unquestionable loyalty to a moron like Heth!?!? ~_^
duuude....i think that chip in the back of your head is overheating and melting your brain.
*sigh*
...and lets not contemplate on the alternative endings of past wars. ok?
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.20 20:00:00 -
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Race traitors like you don't deserve to live period. It's WAR, you do what your leader tells you to. You can think freely once your Race is safe and free again, it's enemies safely subdues. Until then, follow that goal or erase yourself from our Race's gene pool, since you're obviously a disgrace to it.
THE STATE PREVAILS! |
Hero Crane
Bilge Rats of Tortuga
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Posted - 2008.07.20 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Fabien Aldric
Crane: Racial strife divides us because the Gallente are promoting their sick idea of "racial equality" (which is just a ploy to rob the Amarr of their rightful slaves), and the people of the sane Races of EVE are obviously above considering themselves as anywhere near as low as the gallente decadent s****and the matari who blindly follow the federation since to fight the fictitious "threat" they were indoctrinated to believe the Amarrian empire poses.
Rightful Slaves!?!?! what...in your twisted little mind, makes slavery righteous. Is it the fact that they slap the label of some random deity's name on the whole thing that makes it righteous. Hell, by your own logic, if the Gallente 1.)imposed a nationwide religion and 2.) made a scientific discovery that made their military might unmatchable; then they would have the right to enslave all Caldarians because a.) they'd be stronger than you and b.) they'd be doing god's work. :\ Now, in case you missed my point in all that, I'll simplify: Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD, and it definitely doesn't doesn't make it RIGHT!
*sigh* Well, being a former member of the state and having plenty of Caldari friends myself, I can at least find comfort in knowing that all statesmen do NOT believe in the hatred you seem to stand for.
Seriously, Aldric, wat is with you and this whole racial divide thing. Would it really be so bad if everyone was equal? And I wouldn't talk so much about indoctrination...i've been in the Federation for years and no one's tried to drive chip into my head.
So, we've got that going for us over here.
XD
WHO'S...YOUR...HERO!!! |
Hero Crane
Bilge Rats of Tortuga
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Posted - 2008.07.20 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fabien Aldric
Race traitors like you don't deserve to live period. It's WAR, you do what your leader tells you to. You can think freely once your Race is safe and free again, it's enemies safely subdues. Until then, follow that goal or erase yourself from our Race's gene pool, since you're obviously a disgrace to it.
FIRST OFF, i left the state WAY before this war started. And even if i hadn't, if you think for a second I'd follow Heth, a man would slaughter countless number of his own people just to obtain the tiniest amount of power...then you're TRULY as mad as he is
WHO'S...YOUR...HERO!!! |
Adrian Steel
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.20 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: Adrian Steel on 20/07/2008 23:01:06
Originally by: Val Sharen
Actually the better way to save the State and the other empires is by doing something they fear. Something they fear beyond comprehension and have used this war to do.
They have turned capsuleer against capsuleer. They are not fighting the war WE are. None of the empires can afford a war, so as ever in human history it is being fought by proxy. They sidestepped the rules with CONCORD's help and now we are fighting.
We, the capsuleers, can accomplish everything from ending the war to solving the problems simply.
We do not fight for the empires, we stop all the transportation for them, anything and everything we can stop and bring them to their knees economically and militarily.
We can do this, we combined have more money then the empires, more power and more skill all we need is the wherewithal to do it and make them talk instead of wasting lives, resources and money.
Yet instead it is a shame we fight for those too afraid to fight for themselves.
Well said sister!
However, I'm afraid your approach to the topic is slightly naive. The fact that they don't provide us a diplomatic audience and assume that we are tools to command at their will tells volumes of how they would approach a unified front of capsuleers pushing for trans-humanist societal change. They are far too set in their imperalist ways to even court the notion of cutting the chains of bondage from the planet-bound masses. These are societies that have evolved and "matured" into the beasts they now are over many hundreds of years. The heavy momentum charged by their will to achieve short-sighted goals will never allow them to stop and consider an alternative method of society built around the concept of an individual's place among the stars - free to roam, explore and innovate among immortal peers. Their very nature precipitates their need to maintain their power base over the masses, rather than unleash them towards technological and spiritual enlightenment. The people populating the corridors of power have never experienced for themselves what it is to be a capsuleer, so they perpetuate ignorance through greed and a lust for power.
The only logical way to deal with these eternally stubborn entities is to deliver a decisive knock-out blow to their societal infrastructure in a revolution of fire. Only then will a societal rift be created, something which can be used as a blank slate to catalyze the creation of a new, open-ended trans-humanist oriented galactic society!
Brothers and sisters, join the revolution today!
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Nachshon
Caldari
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.07.21 00:14:00 -
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Over a year and a half ago, I left the Caldari State. I did not join the Federation, but the Republic. Anybody who knows me knows that I am a dedicated defender of my adopted country.
To me, the Federation is an ally (and occasionally the butt of jokes). I will eat my clone contracts before I abandon the Republic, but I salute the Gallente who fight on our side, in the name of freedom.
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Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:57:00 -
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Crane, I prefer to view individual Races as animal species in the wild, fighting for survival. Clearly, the relationship is not symbiotic, but rather a hunter and pray relationship, or, in some cases, a parasitic relationship. The new war has changed this, in a way that now the true strength of each Race will be revealed. Perhaps I've used the wrong word, "strength". Think of it as a combination of "population", "technology", "military strength", "pride" and "loyalty to authority". Those are the values that matter - the race who has them will win and enslave while the rest perish. Endless war has defined humanity and indeed bettered it since the dawn of times, and now more than ever it defines every Race for what it is. The Caldari State and the Amarr empire are obviously more accepting to this idea, so in my mind it's already clear that the gallente-matari alliance can not prevail with their sick, deranged "racial equality" pseudo-science they've invented to hide their racial inferiority.
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Rightful Slaves!?!?! what...in your twisted little mind, makes slavery righteous. Is it the fact that they slap the label of some random deity's name on the whole thing that makes it righteous. Hell, by your own logic, if the Gallente 1.)imposed a nationwide religion and 2.) made a scientific discovery that made their military might unmatchable; then they would have the right to enslave all Caldarians because a.) they'd be stronger than you and b.) they'd be doing god's work. :\ Now, in case you missed my point in all that, I'll simplify: Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD, and it definitely doesn't doesn't make it RIGHT!
Crane, if the gallente defeat the Caldari, it doesn't matter what they believe. What matters is, one Race has won, the other lost. I'll cite my example from the world of animals again - the victor is entirely free to display his superiority against his victim in any way he sees appropriate. There is no right and wrong, it's all about how much you can do without fear of meaningful retaliation. However, if it comes to that, I'm willing to act as living proof of the Caldari racial purity and superiority until my dying breath.
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Seriously, Aldric, wat is with you and this whole racial divide thing. Would it really be so bad if everyone was equal? And I wouldn't talk so much about indoctrination...i've been in the Federation for years and no one's tried to drive chip into my head.
Even if we ASSUME that our ancestors who came from the other side of the EVE gate were a single race all those millenia ago, given our evolution in entirely different worlds for tens of thousands of years it's a surprise we're still the same species (although I'd rather not test that by attempting to reproduce with a member of another race, but racial mixing is another abomination that I'll keep for another debate). It is clearly obvious, even more so if you know anything about biology, that the four major races of EVE are entirely separate, even if they still do fall in the same species. It is also a fact that the idea of racial equality was invented by the matari as an beg of mercy to the superior Amarr, and is perpetuated by the gallente out of fear, since it's obvious that their military, state, and Race itself are inferior to the combined power of the Amarr and Caldari Races. The idea of racial equality goes against anthropology, biology, genetics and history. And since it's a fact the races are in no way equal, why should we treat them equally? I sure as hell am not going to act like some gallente s****are the same as my Caldari brethren, just so I can get back-stabbed the moment I turn my back on them.
There's an old Achura proverb I'd like to share with you...I'm sure a lot is lost in translation, but it basically means,
The Strong do what they can, the Weak suffer what they must.
CALDARI POWER! AMARR VICTOR!
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.22 01:05:00 -
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Nachshon: so I see, you too have fallen for the equalitarian fools' indoctrination. I hope you find solace working with what is likely the most worthless Race in EVE, not worth the oxygen they breathe if they're not working properly for the Amarr. The Amarrians were the first to recognise the matari inferiority, even if it was originally for religious and not racial purposes. But, regardless, they have proven their inferiority by not only being defeated in a matter of weeks, but also choosing to be enslaved rather than fight to the death. Even after they won "independance" (read: being re-enslaved by the gallente), they carelessly tolerate slavery in the Empire, oblivious to the suffering of their own kin; that's just how loyal those s****are to their Race. I wouldn't speak of the loyalty to their State, since such a thing hardly even exists once you account for the gallente influence, Amarr and Caldari spies, general corruption, vote rigging and organised crime.
Matari are the faliure of the universe. Whether the Amarrian God wants it that way or it's because of their genes or because of a series of unlucky coincidences is entirely irrelevant, they have failed on a cosmic scale to assert themselves as worth living.
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BloodBird
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.22 01:16:00 -
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Aldric, my contempt for you and you rediculous beliefs have just tripled reading the... the pure idiocy dripping out your mouth as you open it. I consider myself a relatively calm man and it takes a bit of work to tip me with oppinions alone (actions, like piracy, are another matter altogether) but you have nearly achieved the effect of enraging me.
Now, I will leave this topic, at least for the moment, because I find you... uncomfortable to be around. I really should not need to explain why this is, your statements would be clear enough for those that matters.
And for everyone else, well, they simply will not understand, and I find myself increasingly indiffrent to if they do or not.
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Korin Veecolectus
Caldari
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.07.22 01:21:00 -
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Fabian Aldric. You sir are a hatemonger. Race is not important. It never has been. Race is only important to megalomaniacs and to the fools who follow them. Do not ever fly near me and do not ever call me a friend. That is all I have to say.
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Vikarion
Caldari
Onyx Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.22 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: Vikarion on 22/07/2008 04:33:40
Originally by: Sir Question
Quit the State Militia and come join us in the Federation, there is space for everyone. Hopefully one day you will be able to restore the State that you were so proud off.
Hmm, let me think about tha...no. Let me see...how about this...I kill every Gallente soldier I come across until there are none left, bedeck my Raven with their vacuum-frozen bodies, and then sail to Gallente Prime to display it handsomely above your home planet? Would that work for you?
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Innocence Proves Nothing
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BloodBird
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.22 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Sir Question
Quit the State Militia and come join us in the Federation, there is space for everyone. Hopefully one day you will be able to restore the State that you were so proud off.
Hmm, let me think about tha...no. Let me see...how about this...I kill every Gallente soldier I come across until there are none left, then sail to Gallente Prime to display it handsomely above your home planet?
Your not doing yourself any favors.
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Vikarion
Caldari
Onyx Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.22 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: BloodBird
Your not doing yourself any favors.
Sarcasm, my dear sir, sarcasm. Besides, I wasn't finished with my post. 
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Innocence Proves Nothing
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Avel Kereka
Amarr
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.07.22 05:36:00 -
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Hah, join the Federation in the interests of preserving cultural identity? That's an oxymoron.
I'm tired, I really am. I'm exhausted from fighting the ever-present Gallente influence whether it's in space or planetside. You're everywhere, whispering empty promises, pushing and prodding until people are brainwashed into believing you are actually benevolent.
May the Caldari proudly hold their homeworld for many centuries to come.
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Eran Laude
Gallente
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Avel Kereka
Hah, join the Federation in the interests of preserving cultural identity? That's an oxymoron.
I'm tired, I really am. I'm exhausted from fighting the ever-present Gallente influence whether it's in space or planetside. You're everywhere, whispering empty promises, pushing and prodding until people are brainwashed into believing you are actually benevolent.
May the Caldari proudly hold their homeworld for many centuries to come.
I believe you'll find that's pushing and podding, Avel.
Our "Empty promises" have created the wealthiest, most content and one of the better-defended states in the cluster. Trillions enjoy life in Federal Space, which is more than can be said for any of the other Empires. I think that even the citizens of Caldari Prime will soon realise that they were better off under Federal jurisdiction than the auspices of a megalomaniacal tyrant such as Heth.
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: BloodBird
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Sir Question
Quit the State Militia and come join us in the Federation, there is space for everyone. Hopefully one day you will be able to restore the State that you were so proud off.
Hmm, let me think about tha...no. Let me see...how about this...I kill every Gallente soldier I come across until there are none left, then sail to Gallente Prime to display it handsomely above your home planet?
Your not doing yourself any favors.
Indeed, he is not. Killing in such manner and with such goal is senseless, and tarnishes the reputations of those within the State that do their best to prevent unnecessary loss of life.
There are those of us that will open fire only when fired upon or if forced into a situation where firing is the only remaining option. Some of us even make it a point to send S&R parties to tractored wrecks, in the hopes of finding crewmen who were able to don EVA gear before they ended up surrounded by vacuum.
War is a harsh reality, but we cannot let it dehumanize us. To allow it to do so is a fate worse than death.
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Natalcya Katla
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.07.22 10:58:00 -
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I've yet to see a single good argument in favor of the continued existence of the concept (and particularly, the ideal) of "race".
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