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Valandril
Caldari
Exiled.
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 17/07/2008 16:22:53
Edited by: Valandril on 17/07/2008 16:20:19
It's about damn time to finaly make this change, rats MUST stop shooting drones. There is no condition where they should primary drones, while there are 1 milion situations it will fix.
Example:
- To make many lvl4 missions in drone ship u must take aggro of WHOLE room instead take it in parts simply because launching drones will pull rats aggro on em
- If you get disconnected becasue fo your isp/ccp server crash/mouse biting tho cable you loose now valuable 5 drones because before you will log back in and slowboat to them, they will be killed.
- To rat vs longrange 0.0 rats (ie. angels) you must also sit duck and wait for them to aggro you before you can start dpsing in drone boat, because otherwise they will get killed.
This change is requested over and over for more than year w/o response. What's going on ccp ? If you don't think we need it, try running some lvl4 missions in dominix ie. "Vengeance" with guristas.
Also when you log in after dc, drones should reconnect with your ship, slowboating 50km to get them is NOT FUNNY AT ALL.
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Valandril
Caldari
Exiled.
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.17 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 17/07/2008 16:22:53
Edited by: Valandril on 17/07/2008 16:20:19
It's about damn time to finaly make this change, rats MUST stop shooting drones. There is no condition where they should primary drones, while there are 1 milion situations it will fix.
Example:
- To make many lvl4 missions in drone ship u must take aggro of WHOLE room instead take it in parts simply because launching drones will pull rats aggro on em
- If you get disconnected becasue fo your isp/ccp server crash/mouse biting tho cable you loose now valuable 5 drones because before you will log back in and slowboat to them, they will be killed.
- To rat vs longrange 0.0 rats (ie. angels) you must also sit duck and wait for them to aggro you before you can start dpsing in drone boat, because otherwise they will get killed.
This change is requested over and over for more than year w/o response. What's going on ccp ? If you don't think we need it, try running some lvl4 missions in dominix ie. "Vengeance" with guristas.
Also when you log in after dc, drones should reconnect with your ship, slowboating 50km to get them is NOT FUNNY AT ALL.
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Valandril
Caldari
Exiled.
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.17 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 17/07/2008 18:05:00
 Originally by: TVPR
I gotta say, I don't see any need for this. When running missions in a drone boat, half the point is the ability to fit a super-heavy tank with the CPU/PG you save on using big guns. Aggroing the whole room is just part of the deal - which, tbcfh, isn't much of a challenge even in the toughest L4's if you know what to do with your domi.
The point about slowboating to get drones after d/c; I see why you'd like it - hell, I'd like it myself - but think about it. How often does your average player suddenly crash (the scenario where drones warping out with you would be a good thing) compared to how often your average player suddenly go logoffski to avoid danger? In the latter scenario, should they really be able to save their drones as well this way?
Did you every try lvl4 mission in dominix with t2 heavy drones ? No ? ztry it and come back then, you will understand. And tell me how extra "heavy on pg and cpu" tank you wanna fit when you got limited slot count ? With just t2 and rigs u cannot perma tank all missions, there is no way fro that.
Poba: that's actualy good idea, whenever you get lagged on next wave/disconnected they should loove half of theyr highslots (should be around 5 mil) then i think ccp would change it right away.
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Valandril
Caldari
Exiled.
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.17 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 17/07/2008 19:14:27
Edited by: Valandril on 17/07/2008 19:13:47
I ****ing love when ppl instead talking about issue just nitpick soemone examples. Don't we all love this ?
And right, it's pure bs that Quote:
"- To make many lvl4 missions in drone ship u must take aggro of WHOLE room instead take it in parts simply because launching drones will pull rats aggro on em"
because as you say Quote:
This is pure bs, if your that bad with using drones just fit a single gun and take a shot at 1 group... they aggro you you release drones.. rinse repeat...
It's not like you didn't even read to what you are replying or sthng. Because i wrote that u MUST get aggro from whole room instead just groups because drones will pull not-aggroed groups.
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- To rat vs longrange 0.0 rats (ie. angels) you must also sit duck and wait for them to aggro you before you can start dpsing in drone boat, because otherwise they will get killed.
Try targeting them with a gun and shooting.. it doesnt need to hit it'll pull aggro and your drones dont die. You also dont need to wait if u do this.
It's not like angel long range rats won't aggro you back unless they get on certain distance, you ofcourse knew about this when replying that 1 shoot with gun will do the job. You did, right ?
As for narvan you must sell me that devhax that lets you fit tank and large guns on dominix, setup that will actualy be valuable in missions.
Ok enought nitpicking for me, either discuss idea or stfu.
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Valandril
Caldari
Exiled.
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.18 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow
Hurray for afk missioning!
1)Get mission
2)Fly there
3)launch drones
4)profit!
Srsly, it's too easy on drone boats already - 100% selectable damage type, no ammo use, no targeting required, no worries about ewar rats, no hard choices between dps and tank, wtf?
This is how domi ALREADY HAVE TO fly missions due to said drone aggro, maybe read whole topic before posting next time ? Or at least OP first post. Also it's slowest way to run lvl4 so it seems pretty fine with me, drake running lvl3 can prolly earn more isk/h thank afk domi. Damn, a drawback!
And it's not coming from mission runner, last time i runned lvl4 was about year ago, thanks for assuming tho. This topic is not about money cost of drones, or profit you make from lvl4 missions. It's about simple thing that makes pveing in eve not harder, not more complicated but actualy more frustrating. There is NO gain from current situation, only frustraion for players.
Also are you saying that only drawback of domi dronebay is "look for aggro" factor ? When last time sir did you try to fit it with resonable high slots and armor tank ? So how about fitting issues beeing another drawback ? There are couple more but i will leave it for you to find.
And wtf pvp ? We are not talking here about whatever big omfgbbq balance change but for removal of unnesesary frustration level from the game, for everyone not only domi pilots.
Missions were only example, but ppl instead speaking of idea, speak of examples :]
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Valandril
Caldari
Exiled.
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.18 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 18/07/2008 23:04:15
Originally by: Feilamya
I disagree with the OP.
It's about time rats START shooting drones. Rats not shooting drones just because they weren't there when the rats picked their target is not only lack of AI, it's artificial stupidity ...
And what GOOD it will add to the game ? Beside making caldari even more overpowered when it comes to pve.
And yea, mighty sentry drones and theyr 10 minutes to kill something =)
Why you keep looking in prism "i can't don't let him!!" instead "hey, it's different way". Now raven is king of missions for ppl who fly them, it can actualy do them around 2 times faster than dominix (if faction/officer geared then more than that). Downside ? You must sit in front of pc.
Now on the totaly oposite site we got dominix, it fly missions slow as hell, wastes buttload of time waiting for aggro, drone traveling time, low dps. Good side ? You can run them half-afk.
Something for something, if for you it's better to run them totaly afk but buttslow, then train for domi. On the other hand if you wanna run them fast and earn a lot of iskies, raven is your way.
And missions is only small and actualy less affecting me part of this idea. Often disconnects, unstable connection, node crashess, client crashes, these things are really frustrating, especialy when it hapends x jumps from nearest station and your stack of drones is running low.
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