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Uilliam Nebel
Amarr
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.07.17 22:08:00 -
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The 13th UR is looking to start a long term project that will require considerable amounts of passenger transporting. However the InterBus is not a viable option for security and economic reasons. As I have mostly hauled large amounts of cargo, and very few passengers, I would like to get more experienced capsuleers estimates and advice on the following for large scale transportation of people. And any other advice they might have would be appreciated.
What is an ideal passenger to available m3 ratio?
What is the minimum ratio that should be allowed and maintained for the highest passenger safety and a reasonable comfort level?
Even though travel is faster than light, is their a rule of thumb when determining what and how much to store for provisions if an unexpected delay, or worse should occur?
Do crew escape capsules make acceptable life boats for passengers, or do they need to be upgraded?
What are the effective measures to maintain the safety of passengers and crew from security threats if they should occur in flight, both within and without the ship?
Thank you.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.07.18 00:28:00 -
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Well, I mostly only know about rescuing people from space, so my numbers tend towards emergency situations.
A minimum of 2m3 per person is sufficient, when they are all strapped in.
Probably 6m3 per person is enough to allow them to walk around, have meals and such during the voyage.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.18 00:41:00 -
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Depends on your preferred method of passenger compression, I suppose. Me, I just put a "passenger quarters" sign on the door to all my ships' trash compactors - after that's done, you can keep them in a file folder if you want!
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Uilliam Nebel
Amarr
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.07.18 01:53:00 -
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Thank you both Captains Dougans and Shogaatsu for the suggestions.
2m3 per passenger sounds more like a number I'll have to work toward. As 6m3 per person would just be to small a number of passengers given the time scales.
And as tempting as it might be to put some types into a compressed state, we here in Amarr have to live under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Internal Resources and Environmental Preservation. And they have actually pushed up to the Theology Council a measure that makes it an Imperial crime to put anything in a folder that is not made out of at least 75% post consumer material. Hmm, wait, it technically would be a hundred percent 'post consumer' in one sense of the words...
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.18 13:52:00 -
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I defenetly would'nt accept any kind of transport that's smaller than 25m2 myself. Preferably with jacuzzi and bubbly pink strawberry champagne ready.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:33:00 -
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If we may know some details: How many people are you intending to transport? And what sort of people?
Bear in mind that military types such as light infantry or marines can really be crammed into dropships, standing room only style, as their travel duration is usually quite low.
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Silver Night
Caldari
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:33:00 -
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Depends on how you are transporting them and for how long. For example will they need a place to sleep? Recreation areas? Or is it only a few hours long and they will just need a seat? You are looking at up to 10 or 15 m3 in the first case, and as little as 2 or 3 m3 in the second.
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Inara Subaka
Caldari
the united
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Posted - 2008.07.18 18:52:00 -
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It also depends on the individual preferences of those being transported. And the more room they require, the more you charge for transportation. Simple economics.
Those that don't care for more than a seat can get a reasonable price; those that wish for space to stretch, a meal on the trip, or a bed and bath... let's just say that my Caldari blood is screaming at the possibilities for profit that provides. If they want those comforts, then more than likely they are used to paying the prices attached to such things (and in fact might be insulted if you didn't charge a reasonably high price).
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Uilliam Nebel
Amarr
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.07.18 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kathryn Dougans
If we may know some details: How many people are you intending to transport? And what sort of people?
Bear in mind that military types such as light infantry or marines can really be crammed into dropships, standing room only style, as their travel duration is usually quite low.
The majority of passengers would be former agriculture workers and their families. And for the first phase of the project it would be around 500,000, arriving over the course of half a year.
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