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MADDOGzors THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.07.20 04:21:00 - [31] I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.20 04:41:00 - [32] Originally by: MADDOGzors I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same. But owning a battleship with a cruiser > owning a battleship with a battleship. ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
PYROnoxx Terrorists of Dimensions	Posted - 2008.07.20 05:23:00 - [33] Edited by: PYROnoxx on 20/07/2008 05:23:54 Originally by: William DeMeo Edited by: William DeMeo on 20/07/2008 04:09:54 Originally by: PYROnoxx ... I took my astarte solo pvp'ing in syndicate and got ganked LoL. :( EDIT: thats not even funny I cried in real life afterwards :(((( Thats because your emo! Originally by: Techzer0 But owning a battleship with a cruiser > owning a battleship with a battleship. qft ---- post with ur main!!! i do..ow wait
El'Tar Caldari Monkey Madness.	Posted - 2008.07.20 10:10:00 - [34] Try soloing in navy mega Adrenaline! ________________________________________________ MY BIG BROTHER BEING JESUS CHRIST IN HIS BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM
Kelron Queldine Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.07.20 10:17:00 - [35] Originally by: MADDOGzors I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same. I can count the number of people I actually see in space soloing in a battleship on... about half of one finger. And most of the ones I see in videos have a cov ops alt, if not a Falcon. They are slow, it's hard to catch people who don't want the fight, and they most certainly aren't designed to be solo ships. Good for you if you take your BS out solo, and even more so if you do it without alt help, but I think I can have just as much fun if not more in my Thorax, because there are plenty of other solo cruisers around and they will engage me.
Sali Macbeth	Posted - 2008.07.24 23:45:00 - [36] This is the way the game is. It didn't always used to be that way. It's not about people growing a pair tho. It's just that the solo game has been neglected. Eve isn't about solo duels - these fights just happen to be the kind that some people like best. Others love mid sized gangs and others want alliances and fleet battles. Unfortunately while lots of improvements and advantages have been built to encourage and reward team play there hasn't been a parallel development path to improve solo play. And in fact most solo encouraging features get labelled overpowered and de-featured. Ideally we would live in a world where the great alliances and factions waged war and barely took notice of the little solo guys minding there own business, scraping a liveing and shooting at each other. Instead it's become a bit cold and killing a lone pilot is worth just as much on the kill board as killing an enemy alliance ship. Gate camping has a lot to answer for. Kills should be sought out and a solo pilot should be needle in a hay stack that just isn't worth the while for a fleet to go look for. Fleet should be too busy looking for fleets imo. The dummest argument of all seems to have prevailed. People say its 'massively multiplayer' so what you doing going solo...which is nonsensical since solo pvp is fun entirely because you have so many possible enemies and play with real players. Even so I suspect that solo play has deliberately been discounted as something of value in the game design since release. My opinion: asking people to deliberately fight solo when they have buddies nearby is artificial and if it did become the culture would ruin the 'virtual world' aspect anyway. It would be nice instead if there were legitimate RP and practical reasons to run solo and if ships and skills to support this play style were put in game. If we get solo people out there doing theire thing and earning money without being added to the kill board of some big fat gate camp then it won't be long before they bump into each other and the so much more fun solo shooting starts. There's still some good fun in the cat and mouse game that comes from seeking out that solo fight. And when you find one it's still as much fun as ever. But you gotta be able to suck up that empty feeling when 1v1 become 'scrambled and ganked' :)
Cynical Attitude	Posted - 2008.07.25 11:24:00 - [37] I would like to see more solo PVP, but it seems the only way to get it is to look like a belt ratter and wait for a solo pirate to engage. Sometimes it's a long wait, but they do drop good loot. Maybe (just maybe) there's scope for arranged solo PVP. Duelling complexes and small team complexes which force a degree of balance (in terms of numbers and ship size) on the participants - or is that a little too "WOW battlegrounds" for Eve? Does that beling on Sisi and not Tranq?
techzer0 Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.07.25 13:00:00 - [38] Read the new dev blog, solo pvp is gonna be hurting ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar!
Kelron Queldine Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.07.25 13:53:00 - [39] Originally by: techzer0 Read the new dev blog, solo pvp is gonna be hurting Fuck the nanofags, it's my solo rax I'm more bothered about :(
Nexus Kinnon SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.25 13:56:00 - [40] Someone make me a sig that says "SOLO PVP IS DEAD". It should have a pink background because pink is fabulous.

EddieTheDog	Posted - 2008.07.25 14:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Cynical Attitude I would like to see more solo PVP, but it seems the only way to get it is to look like a belt ratter and wait for a solo pirate to engage. Sometimes it's a long wait, but they do drop good loot. Maybe (just maybe) there's scope for arranged solo PVP. Duelling complexes and small team complexes which force a degree of balance (in terms of numbers and ship size) on the participants - or is that a little too "WOW battlegrounds" for Eve? Does that beling on Sisi and not Tranq? How about people vote on a solar system where dude's drop can's and the pvp flow's
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.07.25 15:41:00 - [42] Originally by: Kelron Queldine Originally by: techzer0 Read the new dev blog, solo pvp is gonna be hurting Fuck the nanofags, it's my solo rax I'm more bothered about :( It does wonders for my solo afterburning Rifter though ;) Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com ~Saint
Xzar Fyrarr Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.25 15:48:00 - [43] Edited by: Xzar Fyrarr on 25/07/2008 15:49:53 Solo PvP isn't dead. It's just very less common. I find a couple solo targets now- mainly non FW targets however. Engage 1 solo FW target- then the entire system lights up with 20 reds I prefer solo pvp over blobbing tbh. Rather get blobed and fly solo than fly solo join a fleet and blob other stuff. And tbqh, I find it more fun and more of a challenge to fly solo :S As someone else said already- you could always try ratting in abelt and just wait for something to attack you. Had that happened in my rupture the other day. Saw a pilgrim warp to a belt and cloak. I proceed to warp to a different belt that I saw a catalyst on scan - I had a very good feeling the pilgrim would follow- engage the catalyst with 2 guns hoping the pilgrim will attack-it did. Catalyst warps off, ended up getting into a GF with a recon ship :S Had it into 10% armor by the time i was at 50% hull Made me a sad Panda that I didn't kill it , and spent all night wondering WTF my ecm drones were doing the entire engagement when someone pointed out to me - Recons have stupidly high [race] points. We fought in amamake- I had at least 7 or 8 active TBLF members in local, one of them undocked in a hurricane- we could of blobed it, But I purposely didn't yell "zomg xxxxxxx pirate pilgrim tackled in Amamake." GF were exchanged in local- THEN I told militia to watch out for a pilgrim in amamake. Don't know if that was the right thing to do :S but I learned how not to engage a Recon ship from that fight :S
Bfoster Minmatar Rising Federation	Posted - 2008.07.25 16:11:00 - [44] Originally by: Cat Molina Originally by: Onel Whitaker I think most of the people who cry about not getting enugh of solo pvp are people who dont like to take chances and take the easy fights and expect people to fight back. Bullshit. Don't like taking chances? Are you serious? Last week I took an inty to NOL and asked for a fight in local. Didn't get one. I run a Hurricane into Syndicate, go after a Curse, and get this. Ha, i got ya beat.. Check out these lame asses... Took 13 to be exact.. Was me and a buddy ratting.. null Asshats Gang **** a Rifter I'm not asking someone to hand me an easy fight... if I wanted certain victory I'd sit cloaked in a belt and pop noobs. Or suicide gank haulers in Empire. Or camp a gate with buddies. Solo PvP is hard to find in this game these days. It seems one has to either nano or cloak to have any chance. And then they seem restricted to targets which are easy ganks. But I will agree that I'm looking at it the wrong way (thus my asking for advice). I probably need to just find a means of turning their numbers against them. Now where'd I put those large smartbombs again? Thanks for the input.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.07.28 21:25:00 - [45] all got to do with how the isk works... loosing a ship that can actully win a 1v1 these days cost ALOT... ppl jsut won't risk it unless they are billionares, and how are they that? yea because they set the prices on t2 ships/moduels etc... overpriced, it sucks... ________________________ I'M POOR
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.07.28 22:06:00 - [46] I've done pretty well solo in the Rifter, Wolf and to a lesser extent, the Hurricane. I haven't had a lot of success with the Rupture yet, but when I started flying the Ruppie solo in lowsec, things started heating up in 0.0 and I haven't been able to **** around in empire/lowsec as much for quite a while, now. That said, it's NOT easy. Flashfresh often writes that piracy is a matter of feast or famine and that's exactly right in my experience. I could go a week with no viable targets (note, keyword here is viable), then I can have 4 or 5 kills in one night. By viable, I'm including ships that I probably can't take but might get lucky. For instance, Wolf vs. Hurricane - I've killed 2 'Canes, had one MWD away from me and escape and been killed by... idk, 3 or 4 of 'em. Had a Harbinger with 2 WCS fitted escape me, and been killed by a Harbinger (I might've gotten dual webbed there, but I'm not sure, it was before the patch that put the ewar symbols on the overview). My Wolf fit features a 2pt scram (I hate single WCS jerks getting away and smacking on local about it) and an afterburner (which is how a BC can MWD away and escape) for small sig radius and relatively high speed in close (even while single-webbed) to avoid medium/large guns. I also killed a failfit Typhoon solo with a Wolf in a fight that most AF pilots wouldn't have even considered trying. I once tackled an Apoc on a planet in lowsec with a Wolf. Of course, he starts smacking about how stupid I am and what a noob I am and how I better leave before he instapops me. So, I close convo and watch him start smacking on local as he finds out he can't hit me and, after 2 reloads of Hail S I actually had his armor down to about 80% (despite his repper - I was amazed to be slowly breaking his tank!!! ...prolly would've run out of ammo anyway, though) before he brought in 4 corpmates... once I saw local jump I gtfo of there and then he started smacking me for being a coward and running away (lol wut?). What makes it funniest is that I wound up catching him doing angel plexes in lowsec in a Coercer a couple days later and podded him. (funny to me, anyway) For a Wolf, the only things I consider NOT viable, really, are missile boats. I won't go after a Caracal (unless it's like, a week old character), I won't go after a Drake, I won't go after a Raven or any other BS that might have more than one or two missile launchers fitted, basically I know my Wolf fit won't outrun missiles so I stay away from that crap. My main problem is Warrior II drones... even with 150 II's and Rep Fleet EMP I can't track warrior II's well enough to kill them, and since my Wolf fit is slow and has no WCS, burning out of warp disruptor range to escape is out of the question... Warrior II's are the only drone I've ever lost a Wolf to (unless I'm forgetting about someone's Ogre II's, but I think I've only lost Rifters to those ) For the Rupture, I consider just about anything smaller than a BS viable (Garmonation videos ftw, <3 that solo ruppie action... though a pilgrim whooped my ass the first time I took a similar rupture out to play ). For the Hurricane with the ECM drones, I've gotten pretty ballsy but I haven't really found a target that was a 'test'. I engaged a pirate geddon on a gate once, but at just about the same time a FDN anti pie fleet jumped on him too (apparently they had a covops next to the guy for warp in just like I did, only they brought like 4 or 5 people and I thought I'd flown into a trap... was surprised afterward when one of them convo'd me with a link to the killmail since I had made it on there). Had that gone as planned with it just being me vs. the BS, I would've been interested to see how my 'Cane fit performed but oh well. Anyway, enough of my rambling here. Don't misunderstand any of that TL;DR crap, I'm not trying to chest beat... just trying to say: Solo PvP isn't broken. Some self-styled solo PvPers are, though. Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
Draeca The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.29 01:44:00 - [47] Edited by: Draeca on 29/07/2008 01:51:16 Originally by: techzer0 Read the new dev blog, solo pvp is gonna be hurting It'll just get better, not everyone does solo with those lame nanothings (it's even more fun and exciting when you can't run when the **** hits the fan). Less nanogangs jumped on your lonely T1 cruiser, and the frigs (T1 and AF) are getting hit by a rather big bat'o'boost. Anyway.. Solo pvp isn't dead, it just smells funny. ___
Ambrosious Martin Son of Man	Posted - 2008.07.29 02:04:00 - [48] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: MADDOGzors I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same. But owning a battleship with a cruiser > owning a battleship with a battleship. Amen brother
Artemis Rose Eleckrostatik	Posted - 2008.07.29 02:04:00 - [49] Originally by: Kaeten all got to do with how the isk works... loosing a ship that can actully win a 1v1 these days cost ALOT... ppl jsut won't risk it unless they are billionares, and how are they that? yea because they set the prices on t2 ships/moduels etc... overpriced, it sucks... Thats odd, I've won 1 vs 1 with Rifters with a cheap named fit under 550K. Some of those against cruisers too. The rest of your post is __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
Thingymawotzit	Posted - 2008.07.29 04:27:00 - [50] I still fly solo sometimes. Curse is an excellent solo ship (little bit less now coz of the nos nerf) but its still great. If you pilot it well, which means having at least a 28km scram then you can take down absolutely any turret boat 1v1 and depending on your fitting(how many tracking disruptors you fit) you can take up to 3 turret boats. And for all those people who are cry nano*. I also solo in my absolution, which can be expensive when i get blobbed but when you come up again a few cruisers or bc's even some assault frigs and stuff then its soo much fun just watching go pop on after another. One time I was just roaming around and thought i might jump into 0.0 (mhc if anyone knows it). Anway so i jump and it bubbled. Theres a dictor a recon and a couple assault frigs and intys on the gate. So immediately i mwd'd back to the gate despite the rapier webbing me, at this point i realised they werent really doing that much dmg so i tried going on of the assault frigs orbiting at about 7k or so (right at my optimal). After about 2 volleys hes down so i put some scorch ammo in which has an optimal of about 20km and targetted the rapier, took his shield down in about 4 or 5 volleys and then i noticed my drones had just popped an inty hehe they must have auto aggroed. So i sent my drones on the rapier coz he was trying to run but he was bubbled by his own dictor so just as he was getting out of the bubble my drones were able to pop him. At this point my armor was about half but they didnt really have firepower left so i popped the other assault frig who musnt have had an mwd coz he was still about 15km from gate. And then i jumped back into low sec. That was an awesome fight, well for me anyway, the guys who were camping were pretty **ed. Bottom Line: Solo PVP isnt dead but factional warfare and other changes to eve itself has made it alot harder.

Fean Dejerak	Posted - 2008.07.29 09:02:00 - [51] So what do you expect them to do? Say, "Hey guys stay back - i have to prove i'm a man in EVE today and 1vs1 this one"? Srsly?
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.07.29 10:02:00 - [52] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 29/07/2008 10:04:43 Originally by: Havohej For the Hurricane with the ECM drones, I've gotten pretty ballsy but I haven't really found a target that was a 'test'. I engaged a pirate geddon on a gate once, but at just about the same time a FDN anti pie fleet jumped on him too (apparently they had a covops next to the guy for warp in just like I did, only they brought like 4 or 5 people and I thought I'd flown into a trap... was surprised afterward when one of them convo'd me with a link to the killmail since I had made it on there). Had that gone as planned with it just being me vs. the BS, I would've been interested to see how my 'Cane fit performed but oh well. Tbh, try finding HACs to fight in a Hurricane. HAC pilots are often ballsy and think that because they're flying T2 they're somehow better then T1. Generally drop solid loot too, and you can typically salvage it for like 5-10 extra mil later on if you're short on cash. Also, smacking down tacklers is ultra-fun, with dual falloff rigs it's definitely worth trying. The Hurricane sortof excels at shooting smaller stuff, although it can fight on level with most other BCs, with a good chance of winning too. BS are dodgy, although with a full out gank fit (forget ECM drones for this; in fact, I don't like ECMs in general) you might have a chance against not so well setup ones. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail mods@ccpgames.com ~Saint
Jodo Gundar	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:34:00 - [53] Lol!! No, solo PvP is not dead!! Man, just for laughs I locked up a Brutix in a Condor the other day! Unfortunately, my advisary was not afk, and handed my backside back to me on a charger, with mint sauce, roast potatoes, and a side order of impertinence!! But..I had the nads to go for it. One day I will find an afk one, and then its worth the days of pain!! Seriously though..its hard to find solo targets for a 1 v 1. A lot of warping in from corpies. It happens occasionally though.
Shiodome Caldari Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.07.29 15:31:00 - [54] i can't find anyone to fly with, i'm struggling to escape solo pvp tbh. _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.07.29 20:03:00 - [55] Originally by: Shiodome i can't find anyone to fly with, i'm struggling to escape solo pvp tbh. Hit me up in game. Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.07.29 20:25:00 - [56] Rumours of my demise are grossly exaggerated. I've just been busy ok. A Pirates Perspective
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.07.29 20:33:00 - [57] Originally by: El'Tar Try soloing in navy mega Adrenaline! I can flipped one last night and he wouldn't shoot at me, in my zealot
Mark Lucius Kinetic Vector	Posted - 2008.07.30 08:37:00 - [58] Whenever I am in 0.0 I just respond to hostile intel to try and chase 'm down and destroy them. And I am usually not the only one trying to pick a fight that way. For the solo 0.0 pirate it looks like blobbing while in fact it is a dozen 1's and 2's trying to have a go at you. I am not going to sit back and have others take you down and most 0.0 'patrollers' feel the same way. ---

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