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Smokie McLottapot
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Posted - 2008.07.19 07:28:00 - [1]

Is this the way EVE is now? People are so scared to fight that they have to attempt to blob out a solo ceptor with 10+?

Is this the way PVP has always been in EVE or has the entire univerise lost it's sack?

I say grow a pair and man up, fight the solo fights without jumping your entire corp/allaince into the fight.

Thoughts?

P.S. If you are above mentioned sackless wonder, at least flame with your main.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 07:45:00 - [2]

Pretty much...

Somewhat, i hear myths and tales of times where you could solo without finding 19 blobs and getting your frigate hot-dropped.

Some people don't like the Risk part of eve, so you get blobs.

Not really any thoughts,tired of trying to defend solo pvp.

And yes, i am a solo pvp'er(98% of the time)
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Posted - 2008.07.19 07:48:00 - [3]

Edited by: Gneeznow on 19/07/2008 07:48:49
You can still solo and its still fun, you just run a high risk of getting perma jammed by 10 falcons and ganked by 20 drakes if your not carefull :whine:

but I know what you mean, I had my rupture hotdropped by a nyx the other day.

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Posted - 2008.07.19 08:17:00 - [4]

Originally by: Gneeznow
I had my rupture hotdropped by a nyx the other day.


lol.. wow.

I only seem to find falcon/rapier/ceptor gangs when I do get ganked. Rest of the time that I fly solo it's still pretty fun, and you just gotta risk more (hence why i fly nano ships alot... whine away Rolling Eyes)

I still have some good times though Wink
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Posted - 2008.07.19 08:59:00 - [5]

Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Gneeznow
I had my rupture hotdropped by a nyx the other day.


lol.. wow.

I only seem to find falcon/rapier/ceptor gangs when I do get ganked. Rest of the time that I fly solo it's still pretty fun, and you just gotta risk more (hence why i fly nano ships alot... whine away Rolling Eyes)

I still have some good times though Wink


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Posted - 2008.07.19 12:06:00 - [6]

If you have it, use it. Do you know how boring it is if you go out in a gang and someone goes on ahead and insists on fighting any suitable targets solo? A gank is not as fun as a fair fight, but it's a hell of a lot more fun than sitting on a gate while someone else has a fair fight. You have to remember that the 10 man gang that jumps your ceptor might have flown 20 jumps looking for a fight, they haven't brought 10 ships just for you.

There are people who take it too far though, like the ones who refuse to engage on even terms and wait 10 minutes for backup to arrive. Or the ones who fit cynos to every ship in their gang.

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Posted - 2008.07.19 15:08:00 - [7]

Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Is this the way EVE is now? People are so scared to fight that they have to attempt to blob out a solo ceptor with 10+?

Is this the way PVP has always been in EVE or has the entire univerise lost it's sack?

I say grow a pair and man up, fight the solo fights without jumping your entire corp/allaince into the fight.

Thoughts?

P.S. If you are above mentioned sackless wonder, at least flame with your main.


If you're asking people to duel then you wont find much luck as there is no point dueling to lose. This goes for the same on trying to engage people solo who know you are looking to fight solo. There is more to tactical pvp than sitting somewhere with paper trying to beat rock.

I solo myself and I find it easier to get targets to engage when they don't think I'm there to fight. If you haven't grasped that concept yet then I suspect I know why you are having trouble finding solo targets.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 18:31:00 - [8]

Solo PVP is not dead. Quit whining.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 18:35:00 - [9]

Originally by: Kelron Queldine
If you have it, use it. Do you know how boring it is if you go out in a gang and someone goes on ahead and insists on fighting any suitable targets solo? A gank is not as fun as a fair fight, but it's a hell of a lot more fun than sitting on a gate while someone else has a fair fight. You have to remember that the 10 man gang that jumps your ceptor might have flown 20 jumps looking for a fight, they haven't brought 10 ships just for you.

There are people who take it too far though, like the ones who refuse to engage on even terms and wait 10 minutes for backup to arrive. Or the ones who fit cynos to every ship in their gang.


Actully no, was soloing in a 0.0 1 jump from high sec, another ceptor jumps in, i engage. He's got both extenders and plats on to live long enough for 10 more to jump in :(
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Posted - 2008.07.19 18:39:00 - [10]

Originally by: Artemis Rose
Solo PVP is not dead. Quit whining.


Says the alt that has no sack.

Not a whine, are you just to stupid to see the question marks?

For the other replies : Thanks for the input guys
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Posted - 2008.07.19 18:48:00 - [11]

Originally by: Smokie McLottapot


Actully no, was soloing in a 0.0 1 jump from high sec, another ceptor jumps in, I engage. He's got both extenders and plates on to live long enough for 10 more to jump in :(


Shame, proper inty fights are fun. But my point still stands in general that just because someone did blob you, it doesn't mean they had to blob you. Only that they had the ships there and waiting.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:23:00 - [12]

Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Solo PVP is not dead. Quit whining.


Says the alt that has no sack.

Not a whine, are you just to stupid to see the question marks?

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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:39:00 - [13]

Edited by: Cat Molina on 19/07/2008 19:39:06
I could use some advice for finding solo PvP. I'm sickened by corp/alliance drama games and so play the 'lone wolf'. I also generally have a schedule which prohibits getting a group together.

Every time I enter 0.0 I either find ratters who run and cloak or gangs which pounce (I mean really... are 10+ ships really necessary to engage my poor little Hurricane?).

Am I doing it wrong? I'm beginning to believe a disco-battleship is the closest I'll ever get. Or SISI. Rolling Eyes

Would appreciate any advice.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:02:00 - [14]

Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Is this the way EVE is now? People are so scared to fight that they have to attempt to blob out a solo ceptor with 10+?

Is this the way PVP has always been in EVE or has the entire univerise lost it's sack?

I say grow a pair and man up, fight the solo fights without jumping your entire corp/allaince into the fight.

Thoughts?

P.S. If you are above mentioned sackless wonder, at least flame with your main.
That's the way solo PVP has always been and likely always will be. Just because you are solo doesn't mean anyone else is obligated to do the same, 9/10 of soloing is isolating your targets and picking your fights. If you leave yourself vulnerable to being ganked, well, you're gonna get ganked.


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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:28:00 - [15]

I know that alot of people get alot of solo pvp! but those people do have a pair of balls, they have the nerves of going into a 30% 70% chance fight and sometimes get out alive and have a blast. I think most of the people who cry about not getting enugh of solo pvp are people who dont like to take chances and take the easy fights and expect people to fight back. Thats the way it is, and I'm not pointing any fingers.

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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:41:00 - [16]

I love the solo pvp if available however have more and more run into a small band of nanos trying to over run my drake in low sec. I do enjoy approaching the belt and watching them bounce off astroids. If you want true solo pvp to return nerf the hell out of gank ships including nanos.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:43:00 - [17]

Edited by: Tiesto Ipok on 19/07/2008 20:43:04
is there such a thing anymore?!
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:43:00 - [18]

Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Is this the way EVE is now? People are so scared to fight that they have to attempt to blob out a solo ceptor with 10+?

Is this the way PVP has always been in EVE or has the entire univerise lost it's sack?

I say grow a pair and man up, fight the solo fights without jumping your entire corp/allaince into the fight.

Thoughts?

P.S. If you are above mentioned sackless wonder, at least flame with your main.


So you couldn't kill 10 people solo? Hahaha what a noob.

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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:47:00 - [19]

Originally by: Onel Whitaker
I think most of the people who cry about not getting enugh of solo pvp are people who dont like to take chances and take the easy fights and expect people to fight back.


Bullshit. Don't like taking chances? Are you serious? Last week I took an inty to NOL and asked for a fight in local. Didn't get one. I run a Hurricane into Syndicate, go after a Curse, and get this.

I'm not asking someone to hand me an easy fight... if I wanted certain victory I'd sit cloaked in a belt and pop noobs. Or suicide gank haulers in Empire. Or camp a gate with buddies.

Solo PvP is hard to find in this game these days. It seems one has to either nano or cloak to have any chance. And then they seem restricted to targets which are easy ganks.

But I will agree that I'm looking at it the wrong way (thus my asking for advice). I probably need to just find a means of turning their numbers against them.

Now where'd I put those large smartbombs again? Laughing

Thanks for the input.

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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:01:00 - [20]

Quote:
9/10 of soloing is isolating your targets and picking your fights.


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I run a Hurricane into Syndicate, go after a Curse, and get this


Huzzah...
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:06:00 - [21]

I just can't find anyone to fight... course i'm in Black Rise... seems no one is there :(. Only person i've killed lately is a condor i caught undocking from station in tama... I was bored lol. His tears tasted good though.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:12:00 - [22]

Originally by: Onel Whitaker
I know that alot of people get alot of solo pvp! but those people do have a pair of balls, they have the nerves of going into a 30% 70% chance fight and sometimes get out alive and have a blast. I think most of the people who cry about not getting enugh of solo pvp are people who dont like to take chances and take the easy fights and expect people to fight back. Thats the way it is, and I'm not pointing any fingers.

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You misunderstand me. I take chances, I routinely jump into camped systems and pull other ceptors of the gate and pew pew. I mean really, ceptor costs what, 10 mil fitted? Thats like 1 lvl 4 mission, chump change. I was just wondering if anyone out there still do the solo roams, by the responce I've seen here, I'd have to say yes. Twisted Evil

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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:19:00 - [23]

Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Originally by: Onel Whitaker
I know that alot of people get alot of solo pvp! but those people do have a pair of balls, they have the nerves of going into a 30% 70% chance fight and sometimes get out alive and have a blast. I think most of the people who cry about not getting enugh of solo pvp are people who dont like to take chances and take the easy fights and expect people to fight back. Thats the way it is, and I'm not pointing any fingers.

luv
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You misunderstand me. I take chances, I routinely jump into camped systems and pull other ceptors of the gate and pew pew. I mean really, ceptor costs what, 10 mil fitted? Thats like 1 lvl 4 mission, chump change. I was just wondering if anyone out there still do the solo roams, by the responce I've seen here, I'd have to say yes. Twisted Evil

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Thank you I love my pair.

There is plenty of solo PVP left out there. I used to use a ruppy for ratting(PVP fit OFC) and wait until I was attacked in a belt... usually its by a lone piwate and they are unsuspecting of the smart PVPer. There usually looking for the easy gank and end up getting ganked, I dont even use a MWD most of the time, since im looking to get jumped. Once and awhile you get the pair in a Hac or cruiser and a frigate.. there the real fun, micromanagment of the scram and web FTW.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:33:00 - [24]

getting 1 vs 1 fights is difficult to say the least, most of the time while i am at war im trying to kill people before their backup finishes warping, which means lots of gank and lots of plates.
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Posted - 2008.07.20 00:34:00 - [25]

I've had 1 vs. 1's honored before. Actually made some good friends in EVE starting out with 1v1's. It's not all bad, really.
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Posted - 2008.07.20 01:21:00 - [26]

Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Is this the way EVE is now? People are so scared to fight that they have to attempt to blob out a solo ceptor with 10+?

Is this the way PVP has always been in EVE or has the entire univerise lost it's sack?

I say grow a pair and man up, fight the solo fights without jumping your entire corp/allaince into the fight.

Thoughts?

P.S. If you are above mentioned sackless wonder, at least flame with your main.


So you couldn't kill 10 people solo? Hahaha what a noob.

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Posted - 2008.07.20 01:27:00 - [27]

Human nature - the desire not to lose anything. People take their internet space money too seriously. Sad

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Posted - 2008.07.20 02:30:00 - [28]

I like the fact that people blob adds a edge to the game

If i score a solo kill awesome

if i get blobbed i must escape keep my wits about me (like the other night almost getting ganked by huzzah)

and the occasions where you actually get a few kills of before going down/escaping

many times I've proven and i know so have many others its not numbers its skill

the truth is we all blob at some point so cant really complain

but then its also the reason why so many people fly nano (not that im saying nano is a problem as i fit webs to my ships and know how to use them Wink)

just gotta learn to adapt and outsmart the enemy stop being lazy break them up and take them down one by one
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Posted - 2008.07.20 03:17:00 - [29]

Originally by: PYROnoxx
I like the fact that people blob adds a edge to the game

If i score a solo kill awesome

if i get blobbed i must escape keep my wits about me (like the other night almost getting ganked by huzzah)

and the occasions where you actually get a few kills of before going down/escaping

many times I've proven and i know so have many others its not numbers its skill

the truth is we all blob at some point so cant really complain

but then its also the reason why so many people fly nano (not that im saying nano is a problem as i fit webs to my ships and know how to use them Wink)

just gotta learn to adapt and outsmart the enemy stop being lazy break them up and take them down one by one


A good way of looking at it. Thanks. Smile
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Posted - 2008.07.20 04:07:00 - [30]

Edited by: William DeMeo on 20/07/2008 04:09:54
Originally by: PYROnoxx
I like the fact that people blob adds a edge to the game

If i score a solo kill awesome

if i get blobbed i must escape keep my wits about me (like the other night almost getting ganked by huzzah)

and the occasions where you actually get a few kills of before going down/escaping

many times I've proven and i know so have many others its not numbers its skill

the truth is we all blob at some point so cant really complain

but then its also the reason why so many people fly nano (not that im saying nano is a problem as i fit webs to my ships and know how to use them Wink)

just gotta learn to adapt and outsmart the enemy stop being lazy break them up and take them down one by one


I took my astarte solo pvp'ing in syndicate and got ganked LoL. :(

EDIT: thats not even funny I cried in real life afterwards :((((
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Posted - 2008.07.20 04:21:00 - [31]

I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same.


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Posted - 2008.07.20 04:41:00 - [32]

Originally by: MADDOGzors
I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same.
But owning a battleship with a cruiser > owning a battleship with a battleship. Wink
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:23:00 - [33]

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Edited by: William DeMeo on 20/07/2008 04:09:54
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I took my astarte solo pvp'ing in syndicate and got ganked LoL. :(

EDIT: thats not even funny I cried in real life afterwards :((((


Thats because your emo!

Originally by: Techzer0
But owning a battleship with a cruiser > owning a battleship with a battleship. Wink


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Posted - 2008.07.20 10:10:00 - [34]

Try soloing in navy mega


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Posted - 2008.07.20 10:17:00 - [35]

Originally by: MADDOGzors
I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same.


I can count the number of people I actually see in space soloing in a battleship on... about half of one finger. And most of the ones I see in videos have a cov ops alt, if not a Falcon. They are slow, it's hard to catch people who don't want the fight, and they most certainly aren't designed to be solo ships. Good for you if you take your BS out solo, and even more so if you do it without alt help, but I think I can have just as much fun if not more in my Thorax, because there are plenty of other solo cruisers around and they will engage me.
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Posted - 2008.07.24 23:45:00 - [36]

This is the way the game is.

It didn't always used to be that way.

It's not about people growing a pair tho. It's just that the solo game has been neglected.

Eve isn't about solo duels - these fights just happen to be the kind that some people like best. Others love mid sized gangs and others want alliances and fleet battles. Unfortunately while lots of improvements and advantages have been built to encourage and reward team play there hasn't been a parallel development path to improve solo play. And in fact most solo encouraging features get labelled overpowered and de-featured.

Ideally we would live in a world where the great alliances and factions waged war and barely took notice of the little solo guys minding there own business, scraping a liveing and shooting at each other. Instead it's become a bit cold and killing a lone pilot is worth just as much on the kill board as killing an enemy alliance ship. Gate camping has a lot to answer for. Kills should be sought out and a solo pilot should be needle in a hay stack that just isn't worth the while for a fleet to go look for. Fleet should be too busy looking for fleets imo.

The dummest argument of all seems to have prevailed. People say its 'massively multiplayer' so what you doing going solo...which is nonsensical since solo pvp is fun entirely because you have so many possible enemies and play with real players. Even so I suspect that solo play has deliberately been discounted as something of value in the game design since release.

My opinion: asking people to deliberately fight solo when they have buddies nearby is artificial and if it did become the culture would ruin the 'virtual world' aspect anyway. It would be nice instead if there were legitimate RP and practical reasons to run solo and if ships and skills to support this play style were put in game.

If we get solo people out there doing theire thing and earning money without being added to the kill board of some big fat gate camp then it won't be long before they bump into each other and the so much more fun solo shooting starts.

There's still some good fun in the cat and mouse game that comes from seeking out that solo fight. And when you find one it's still as much fun as ever. But you gotta be able to suck up that empty feeling when 1v1 become 'scrambled and ganked' :)
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:24:00 - [37]

I would like to see more solo PVP, but it seems the only way to get it is to look like a belt ratter and wait for a solo pirate to engage. Sometimes it's a long wait, but they do drop good loot.

Maybe (just maybe) there's scope for arranged solo PVP. Duelling complexes and small team complexes which force a degree of balance (in terms of numbers and ship size) on the participants - or is that a little too "WOW battlegrounds" for Eve? Does that beling on Sisi and not Tranq?
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:00:00 - [38]

Read the new dev blog, solo pvp is gonna be hurting Confused
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:53:00 - [39]

Originally by: techzer0
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Fuck the nanofags, it's my solo rax I'm more bothered about :(
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Posted - 2008.07.25 13:56:00 - [40]

Someone make me a sig that says "SOLO PVP IS DEAD".
It should have a pink background because pink is fabulous.

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Posted - 2008.07.25 14:47:00 - [41]

Originally by: Cynical Attitude
I would like to see more solo PVP, but it seems the only way to get it is to look like a belt ratter and wait for a solo pirate to engage. Sometimes it's a long wait, but they do drop good loot.

Maybe (just maybe) there's scope for arranged solo PVP. Duelling complexes and small team complexes which force a degree of balance (in terms of numbers and ship size) on the participants - or is that a little too "WOW battlegrounds" for Eve? Does that beling on Sisi and not Tranq?


How about people vote on a solar system where dude's drop can's and the pvp flow'sCool
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Posted - 2008.07.25 15:41:00 - [42]

Originally by: Kelron Queldine
Originally by: techzer0
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Fuck the nanofags, it's my solo rax I'm more bothered about :(


It does wonders for my solo afterburning Rifter though ;)
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Posted - 2008.07.25 15:48:00 - [43]

Edited by: Xzar Fyrarr on 25/07/2008 15:49:53
Solo PvP isn't dead.
It's just very less common.
I find a couple solo targets now- mainly non FW targets however.

Engage 1 solo FW target- then the entire system lights up with 20 redsSad

I prefer solo pvp over blobbing tbh.
Rather get blobed and fly solo than fly solo join a fleet and blob other stuff.

And tbqh, I find it more fun and more of a challenge to fly solo :S

As someone else said already- you could always try ratting in abelt and just wait for something to attack you.
Had that happened in my rupture the other day. Saw a pilgrim warp to a belt and cloak. I proceed to warp to a different belt that I saw a catalyst on scan - I had a very good feeling the pilgrim would follow- engage the catalyst with 2 guns hoping the pilgrim will attack-it did. Catalyst warps off, ended up getting into a GF with a recon ship :S
Had it into 10% armor by the time i was at 50% hull Sad

Made me a sad Panda that I didn't kill it , and spent all night wondering WTF my ecm drones were doing the entire engagement when someone pointed out to me - Recons have stupidly high [race] points. Embarassed

We fought in amamake- I had at least 7 or 8 active TBLF members in local, one of them undocked in a hurricane- we could of blobed it, But I purposely didn't yell "zomg xxxxxxx pirate pilgrim tackled in Amamake."
GF were exchanged in local- THEN I told militia to watch out for a pilgrim in amamake.
ugh

Don't know if that was the right thing to do :S but I learned how not to engage a Recon ship from that fight :S

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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:11:00 - [44]

Originally by: Cat Molina
Originally by: Onel Whitaker
I think most of the people who cry about not getting enugh of solo pvp are people who dont like to take chances and take the easy fights and expect people to fight back.


Bullshit. Don't like taking chances? Are you serious? Last week I took an inty to NOL and asked for a fight in local. Didn't get one. I run a Hurricane into Syndicate, go after a Curse, and get this.

Ha, i got ya beat.. Check out these lame asses... Took 13 to be exact.. Was me and a buddy ratting.. nullAsshats Gang **** a Rifter
I'm not asking someone to hand me an easy fight... if I wanted certain victory I'd sit cloaked in a belt and pop noobs. Or suicide gank haulers in Empire. Or camp a gate with buddies.

Solo PvP is hard to find in this game these days. It seems one has to either nano or cloak to have any chance. And then they seem restricted to targets which are easy ganks.

But I will agree that I'm looking at it the wrong way (thus my asking for advice). I probably need to just find a means of turning their numbers against them.

Now where'd I put those large smartbombs again? Laughing

Thanks for the input.



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Posted - 2008.07.28 21:25:00 - [45]

all got to do with how the isk works...

loosing a ship that can actully win a 1v1 these days cost ALOT...

ppl jsut won't risk it unless they are billionares, and how are they that? yea because they set the prices on t2 ships/moduels etc...

overpriced, it sucks...
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:06:00 - [46]

I've done pretty well solo in the Rifter, Wolf and to a lesser extent, the Hurricane. I haven't had a lot of success with the Rupture yet, but when I started flying the Ruppie solo in lowsec, things started heating up in 0.0 and I haven't been able to **** around in empire/lowsec as much for quite a while, now.

That said, it's NOT easy. Flashfresh often writes that piracy is a matter of feast or famine and that's exactly right in my experience. I could go a week with no viable targets (note, keyword here is viable), then I can have 4 or 5 kills in one night.

By viable, I'm including ships that I probably can't take but might get lucky. For instance, Wolf vs. Hurricane - I've killed 2 'Canes, had one MWD away from me and escape and been killed by... idk, 3 or 4 of 'em. Had a Harbinger with 2 WCS fitted escape me, and been killed by a Harbinger (I might've gotten dual webbed there, but I'm not sure, it was before the patch that put the ewar symbols on the overview). My Wolf fit features a 2pt scram (I hate single WCS jerks getting away and smacking on local about it) and an afterburner (which is how a BC can MWD away and escape) for small sig radius and relatively high speed in close (even while single-webbed) to avoid medium/large guns.

I also killed a failfit Typhoon solo with a Wolf in a fight that most AF pilots wouldn't have even considered trying.

I once tackled an Apoc on a planet in lowsec with a Wolf. Of course, he starts smacking about how stupid I am and what a noob I am and how I better leave before he instapops me. So, I close convo and watch him start smacking on local as he finds out he can't hit me and, after 2 reloads of Hail S I actually had his armor down to about 80% (despite his repper - I was amazed to be slowly breaking his tank!!! ...prolly would've run out of ammo anyway, though) before he brought in 4 corpmates... once I saw local jump I gtfo of there and then he started smacking me for being a coward and running away (lol wut?). What makes it funniest is that I wound up catching him doing angel plexes in lowsec in a Coercer a couple days later and podded him. (funny to me, anyway)

For a Wolf, the only things I consider NOT viable, really, are missile boats. I won't go after a Caracal (unless it's like, a week old character), I won't go after a Drake, I won't go after a Raven or any other BS that might have more than one or two missile launchers fitted, basically I know my Wolf fit won't outrun missiles so I stay away from that crap. My main problem is Warrior II drones... even with 150 II's and Rep Fleet EMP I can't track warrior II's well enough to kill them, and since my Wolf fit is slow and has no WCS, burning out of warp disruptor range to escape is out of the question... Warrior II's are the only drone I've ever lost a Wolf to (unless I'm forgetting about someone's Ogre II's, but I think I've only lost Rifters to those Laughing)

For the Rupture, I consider just about anything smaller than a BS viable (Garmonation videos ftw, <3 that solo ruppie action... though a pilgrim whooped my ass the first time I took a similar rupture out to play Embarassed). For the Hurricane with the ECM drones, I've gotten pretty ballsy but I haven't really found a target that was a 'test'. I engaged a pirate geddon on a gate once, but at just about the same time a FDN anti pie fleet jumped on him too (apparently they had a covops next to the guy for warp in just like I did, only they brought like 4 or 5 people and I thought I'd flown into a trap... was surprised afterward when one of them convo'd me with a link to the killmail since I had made it on there). Had that gone as planned with it just being me vs. the BS, I would've been interested to see how my 'Cane fit performed but oh well.

Anyway, enough of my rambling here. Don't misunderstand any of that TL;DR crap, I'm not trying to chest beat... just trying to say:

Solo PvP isn't broken. Some self-styled solo PvPers are, though.

Originally by: CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.29 01:44:00 - [47]

Edited by: Draeca on 29/07/2008 01:51:16
Originally by: techzer0
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It'll just get better, not everyone does solo with those lame nanothings (it's even more fun and exciting when you can't run when the **** hits the fan). Less nanogangs jumped on your lonely T1 cruiser, and the frigs (T1 and AF) are getting hit by a rather big bat'o'boost.

Anyway.. Solo pvp isn't dead, it just smells funny.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 02:04:00 - [48]

Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: MADDOGzors
I think there's a difference between solo'ing in your rupture and solo'ing in your battleship. You'll find most people don't have the nuts to run around in their battleship looking for solo pvp. There's some of us that play this game for the adrenaline rush, we get that from actually putting something at risk besides a cruiser and it's too bad more people don't do the same.
But owning a battleship with a cruiser > owning a battleship with a battleship. Wink


Amen brother
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Posted - 2008.07.29 02:04:00 - [49]

Originally by: Kaeten
all got to do with how the isk works...

loosing a ship that can actully win a 1v1 these days cost ALOT...

ppl jsut won't risk it unless they are billionares, and how are they that? yea because they set the prices on t2 ships/moduels etc...

overpriced, it sucks...


Thats odd, I've won 1 vs 1 with Rifters with a cheap named fit under 550K. Some of those against cruisers too.

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