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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.07.19 08:28:00 -
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I seem to recall reading something years ago that due to the implants and genetic changeÆs a Pod pilots goes though they are stuck in space and unable to go back down to planets. But after a short while searching I have found no reference to this.
Can anyone else remember reading this, anyone got a link?
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.07.19 09:24:00 -
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Considering that CCP apparently has tentative notions of eventually expanding the game (over, like, a decade) to include things like planetary operations and atmospheric flight, I sort of doubt that this is still canon, if it ever was.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.19 10:05:00 -
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the Empyrean age book seems filled with capsuleers out of their pods and walking about.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 11:06:00 -
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There is one Chronicle about that, the space economy of New Eden is detached from the planetary economies. Due to the high cost of transporting goods from space to ground and back.
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But nothing really prohibits capsuleers from returning to planet or from a planet back to space.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.19 14:09:00 -
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I'm sure that almost 21,000 years into the future, mankind will at least have been able to develop a reliable re-entry shuttle to allow people to return planetside if they feel like it.
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 19/07/2008 15:52:10
According to the book, the Caldari at least have space elevators.
I see no reason why a capsuleer couldn't go dirtside if they so wanted. I'd guess that most stations and ships in New Eden are maintained at a notional "standard gravity" of about 1G, so the only real difficulty for a career spacer heading down the gravity well would be exposure to viruses, bacteria and other planetary pathogens that would be far less common in space.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:28:00 -
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id imagine pod pilots have their shots, considering i doubt the starbase is all that clean outside of gallente space atleast. Matari stations are probally at best DS9 quality.
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Kai Zion
The Zion Accounts
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Posted - 2008.07.20 09:59:00 -
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What you're probably recalling is this Pottsey:
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But the obvious downside to suppressing the immune system is that the body becomes vulnerable to diseases. However, space pilots spend most of their time locked up in their capsule, a completely sterile environment. It makes it more difficult for them to leave their capsule (although not impossible), but on the whole suppressing the immune system is a non-issue for space pilots.
From Scientific Article: Neural Boosters. So capsuleers strolling the streets is an issue of them navigating a non-sterile environment. This says nothing of their motivations for doing so (which can be plausible, of course) or other associated risks.
The other issue of travel between space and planets was first outlined in the above-linked Chronicle "Stairway to Heaven" and was recently added to in The Empyrean Age (in a not entirely congruent fashion either, but I won't derail about that...). Suffice to say, travelling for even non-podders between space and planets is possible. It appears to have been possible even before there was capsule technology, which is currently approaching only its sixth anniversary.
The most pertient obstacles for a capsuleer indulging in planetary travel would involve dealing with a non-sterile environment, not getting swamped by the masses if they recognise you as a podder (you're famous/infamous, remember. People would want to hassle/sex/kidnap you etc) or conversely, travelling with sufficient bodyguards etc.
There's a fair bit of player fiction out there with podders on planets as well, by the way. For my own part, a story I wrote (Catching Conversations) simply had my character using a " fully plugged and protected" clone to avoid infection (or at least, immediate infection) and blending in with people.
It's plausible to tackle but I also recommend that someone approaching this also offer at least some explanation as for why a supremely powerful demi-god is bothering to walk amongst the proletarian masses! 
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.07.20 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kai Zion
Suffice to say, travelling for even non-podders between space and planets is possible. It appears to have been possible even before there was capsule technology, which is currently approaching only its sixth anniversary.
Make that its eightieth anniversary. What you mean is that we're approaching the sixth year of the capsuleer "boom".
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Kai Zion
The Zion Accounts
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Posted - 2008.07.20 14:47:00 -
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Indeed, thanks for the correction Stitcher. Anniversary of the capsuleer boom, not the technology itself.
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2008.07.21 14:43:00 -
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The novel has plenty of capsuleers walking on land, and some uses for clones that would certainly make it no problem for capsuleers to leave their pods. It does state, though, that you need a special crane to insert your pod in the ship, and so can't leave it while you are in the ship (except for one ship that has one such internal crane) so no stories about pod pilots walking the bridges of their ships.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:07:00 -
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I think it's more that there's no really much reason to go down to a planet, when you can get everything you need in space. I'm sure capsuleers can go dirtside if they want.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sepherim
The novel has plenty of capsuleers walking on land, and some uses for clones that would certainly make it no problem for capsuleers to leave their pods. It does state, though, that you need a special crane to insert your pod in the ship, and so can't leave it while you are in the ship (except for one ship that has one such internal crane) so no stories about pod pilots walking the bridges of their ships.
I haven't read the novel yet (no US distribution yet), but this is what I pictured.
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Culmen
Caldari
Allied Tactical Unit
Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.01 14:40:00 -
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Actually getting a pod pilot onto a planet would be completely easy
The pilot just needs to setup a jump clone on the surface
sure there would be enough population on some planets to supply biomass, technical knowledge and tools.
After that, its just a high bandwidth data transfer
and another back, if the pilot gets a bad case of the sniffles
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Veron Daerth
Amarr
Blood Meridian
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Posted - 2008.08.02 05:59:00 -
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I dunno Sepherim, last I checked, podders are a bit nuts maybe to do what we do. So I RP that my character had a small hatch and some appropriate apparatus installed on his ships to allow him to leave the pod while still in space.
Sure its dangerous, and requires me to trust the merely mortal abilities of my crew when I'm not in the pod, but hey, its also dangerous to fly around 0.0 or lowsec in noobships, yet I dont doubt people do that too.
Humans have always taken technology and modified it to fit their environment and needs and desires. Cell phones, radios, TV even. Microwave ovens. Pods arent any different, and if the peoples of the cluster have had 80 years to work on them, I am sure some crazy guy has said by now, "Gee, I wanna get out of this thing, but not have to dock to do it. Lets make it happen." Of course, it probably voids your pod's warranty, but thats also never stopped people from doing things. Sure didnt stop me from trying to take apart my Xbox 360 and put it into a oversized model of the Millenium Falcon. The damned disk tray would have ejected out of the engine housing.
Of course, Bill Gates and George Lucas probably would have both crapped a brick if they found out. That didnt stop me either. When I broke the processor, well, that did. Got me a new Xbox, am making plans to make a new one too. Just gotta get the new kit. I think I know what I did wrong. Hopefully this time it goes better.
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