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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:25:00 -
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I have just had an interesting discussion with my friends and would like to put this question to the eve forum.. I expect flaming
What movies would being genre defining Sci-Fi ?
By this I mean films that are you use as comparison as standards by which other movie are compared. We came up with the following list in no particular order;
- When Worlds Collide
It Came from Outer Space War of the Worlds û first version The Last Starfighter Enemy Mine Plan 9 From Outer Space û Worse? The Day the Earth Stood Still 2001 Space Odyssey Close Encounters of the Third Kind Alien Star Wars Original untampered with Invasion of the Body Snatchers Day of the Triffids Andromeda Strain Silent Running Dark Star Metropolis Demon Seed Titan AE Stargate Terminator Superman û Christopher Reeve Version Matrix Fortress West World Black Hole Forbidden Planet (The Tempest) Fifth Element 20000 Leagues under the Sea King Kong (Fay Wray) Frankenstein (The Monster) Invisible Man Soylent Green Fantastic Voyage Logans Run Zardoz Back to the Future
Special mention has to go for the Definition of a bad Movies. The Three New Star Wars Films, especially the fight with Yoda and Christopher Lee, Sulking Darth Vader, Jar Jar Binks û do I have to say more.
All these comment are the collective responsiblity of no one.. please dont hurt me too much.
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:26:00 -
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Held for suggestion Hug a Carebear, Kill a pirate, squish a Rat, and tickle a dev.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:53:00 -
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Capricorn One?
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:59:00 -
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Blade Runner should be on the list!
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:09:00 -
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I would agrue that Capricorn One isn't Science Fiction, it is more a political Drama. It uses a Sci Fi as a starting point but then does run with that aspect.
Blade Runner... True that is missing from the list. I think that one should be included but need to be convince that it is genre beating. Hug a Carebear, Kill a pirate, squish a Rat, and tickle a dev.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:15:00 -
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Planet of The Apes.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:18:00 -
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What exactly do you mean by "genre-beating". Without some sort of defintions and reasoning behind your selections it's difficult to see why they are in your list.
Blade Runner for example is Cyberpunk, and in order to be genre-beating I would say it needs to be a better film than any other cyber punk film out there. Other options for genre-beating are most profitable (measureable but boring - no debate involved) or most influential.
So what films outdo Blade Runner then? The Matrix? Metropolis? Any other cyber punk films I've seen have mostly sucked, although a few are good, but not great. Examples of the good are (imho) Strange Days, Running Man and Virtuosity.
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Joseph 9
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:28:00 -
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And moving on to critique your list I think the following shouldn't be on there on the grounds that they are not very good films
Titan AE Fortress Black Hole Invisible Man (although which one?) Fantastic Voyage Logans Run Zardoz
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Brigitte Helm on 19/07/2008 22:34:16
Originally by: Joseph 9 What exactly do you mean by "genre-beating". Without some sort of defintions and reasoning behind your selections it's difficult to see why they are in your list.
First I don't mean genre beating in the sense of the best ever of a movie. I mean a film that when ever you are watch a movie you are compare the movie to it. So it doesnt have to be a perfect film, or even a good film.
It simply has to be a film that is a high point in the history that makes a perminant mark on the records of film.
Originally by: Joseph 9 And moving on to critique your list I think the following shouldn't be on there on the grounds that they are not very good films
As I just said, does have to be good. Just has to be the movie that you can't imagine history without
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 19/07/2008 22:49:17
Originally by: Joseph 9 First I don't mean genre beating in the sense of the best ever of a movie. I mean a film that when ever you are watch a movie you are compare the movie to it. So it doesnt have to be a perfect film, or even a good film.
It simply has to be a film that is a high point in the history that makes a perminant mark on the records of film.
I think Black Hole and Logan's Run fit here. Most people here are just probably too young to appreciate it. Certainly they remain in the pop consciousness and influence films even today. Although how you get Dark Star on there and miss these I have no idea.
And by all means Blade Runner is on the list. That one is a no brainer.
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War Keynvor
Flashbang Innovations
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Posted - 2008.07.19 23:08:00 -
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I definitely agree Blade Runner needs to make the list.
What about Twelve Monkeys? or Stargate?
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 23:08:00 -
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Thxs I think you get it. I will be honest Dark Star was raised in our discussion but I think I would be hard to justify it if pressed. That one I would be willing to drop I think.
I am ashamed that we didnt pick up Blade Runner. However we only picked up Frankenstein late on in the discussion.
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Meklon
Caldari Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.07.19 23:09:00 -
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: War Keynvor I definitely agree Blade Runner needs to make the list.
What about Twelve Monkeys? or Stargate?
He types as the discussion rages on TS
Stargate we talked about and thought that there are better example of the type.
Twelve Monkey - I need convincing about that. As a technical film it is different but as a subject matter I dont think it is.
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Meklon The mind boggles how Babylon 5 can be left out.
Because it isnt a movie at the cinema
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Meklon
Caldari Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.07.19 23:24:00 -
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Quote: Because it isnt a movie at the cinema
Technically, you never stated that it had to be a cinematic release, iirc there were a couple of B5 movies, so in mere technicalities it fits into the discussion - at least in my eyes.
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.19 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Meklon
Quote: Because it isnt a movie at the cinema
Technically, you never stated that it had to be a cinematic release, iirc there were a couple of B5 movies, so in mere technicalities it fits into the discussion - at least in my eyes.
((Not intending to flame, so please don't take it that way)).
No prob.. my fault for not including it... editing the original post now.. Interesting that no one picked up that Star Trek isnt included. We are having that discussion now. We have limited to IV or Generations if any.
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Drax Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.07.20 04:51:00 -
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Star Trek : First Contact is the only TNG movie as far as I'm concerned 
Wish I could say Battlestar Galactica, but I don't feel Razor has enough umph to be considered for a recommendation.
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Mary Makepeace
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:14:00 -
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Pitch Black - If only for the good low budget hot landing on a planet. Works out well as a redemption film as well.
Akira - the first widely distributed cinema release of a Japanese animation. rocking sound track and incomprehensible plot.
Clockwork Orange - 'nuf said.
The Fly - very strong release for horror/scifi, sadly i havn't seen the original.
Mad Max (road warrior?)-post apocalyptic \o/
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:33:00 -
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Terminator 2: Judgment Day
its scifi action! but it truely defined special effects in the field for years to come.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.20 07:28:00 -
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Day of the Trifids was just on "The Really Bad Movie" around here. And it really lives up to its billing. That's a bad movie. The book may be different, but the movie...
And When Worlds Collide? I can paint a better backdrop in my sleep, thank you very much.
Otherwise it's a good list.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.20 08:04:00 -
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Ok... maybe not all genre-defining, but notable titles nevertheless... take your pick on some you missed... think "older" 
* Godzilla ("Gojira") * The Blob * Barbarella * Mad Max * Flash Gordon * The Thing * Scanners
Closer to today, in animation
* Ghost in the Shell * The Iron Giant (one year earlier than Titan AE) * Heavy Metal 2000 ("F.A.K.K.2") * Final Fantasy : The Spirits Within * Treasure Planet
Back to our (relatively recent) days in motion pictures :
* E.T. * Tron * Robocop * Predator * Total Recall
And even more recent, but not all that genre-defining at all :
* Contact * Armageddon//Deep Impact (I prefered the second one, really) * Jurassic Park * Independence Day * Idiocracy
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Kyanzes
Amarr Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.07.20 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kyanzes on 20/07/2008 08:43:51
Fantastic Voyage seems to be missing from the list.
Also what about The Time Machine (1960)? Or perhaps Back to the Future? Another definitive movies: 1984 and Equilibrium.
What about Johnny Mnemonic?
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.20 09:41:00 -
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Dark City Alian Gattaca Stalker The Abyss
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Akiba Penrose
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.20 09:59:00 -
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Classic should be on the list.
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.20 11:07:00 -
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Ok first of all thxs for all the replies. Some interesting suggestion and missed films. I'll try to cover as many as I can.
When the list was put together, we didn't look at the special effect. Although key to a Sci Fi film, its the stories we are interested in. Anyway on to the suggestions
Clockwork Orange - We did discuss this one, but it didnt make the final list, because although a great film, it doesnt feel like it adds anything to the history of SciFi. Same goes for Mad Max
Barbarella / Flash Gordon is an interesting one and I am not sure about them. They represent the Saturday morning serials. So important to Sci Fi. When my friends get on we will talk about these I am sure. Maybe maybe... tell me why they should / shouldnt be in the list
The Time Machine - We did talk about this one, but the story it actually tells is done better in other movies, the folly of man. The world taken back. We even miss "Things to come".
Fantasic Voyager - We thought about that one but discussed and rejected
Tron - Was brought up but mad computer - 2001, cyberpunk - The Matrix.. Need convincing I guess
THE BLOCKBUSTER - ok in this I am talking about Independance day, Jurassic Park, Deep Impact etc... I have a problem including these as most of them are retelling of stories already done, but with flashier special effects. Again convince me
So in summary, rather then just lists, give me reasons... if you challenge one on the list I will try to justify it to you.
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Mark Lucius
Kinetic Vector
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Posted - 2008.07.20 11:58:00 -
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Maybe you should define sub-genres first. It will be easier to distinguish which movies are genre-defining that way. Although classifying movies by sub-genre might be hard again.  ---
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.20 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mark Lucius Maybe you should define sub-genres first. It will be easier to distinguish which movies are genre-defining that way. Although classifying movies by sub-genre might be hard again. 
This is the thing I have been trying to avoid. Once you label a movie as a type of movie it become fitting in boxes. What I am trying to do, and not saying very well. Which movies actual were so ground breaking that they are the point of reference for everything else both in the future and also in the past.
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Mark Lucius
Kinetic Vector
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Posted - 2008.07.20 12:37:00 -
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Well yeah, but some of these movies are only ground breaking when compared to others in their subgenre, while being less so to the sci-fi genre as a whole. ---
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Jorana Rowan
Gallente Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.20 18:33:00 -
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I think Dark Star should go back in - I think it is genre defining and at least one other person agrees with me :
http://blog.wired.com:80/underwire/2008/07/dan-obannon-exc.html
In case anyone can't be bothered to go to wired, here's the relevant bit:
It's been a while since anything new written by sci-fi and horror master Dan O'Bannon hit the screen. Either working alone or in tandem, O'Bannon piled up monumental, genre-defining films in the 70s and 80s. From Return of the Living Dead and Dark Star to Alien and Total Recall, O'Bannon penned some seminal scary moments (article carries on)
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.07.22 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 22/07/2008 19:27:11 The Thing Scanners Videodrome - watch this and think where reality TV is today
EDIT: Not Sci-Fi Sorry Pulp Fiction American Werewolf in London Halloween Nightmare on Elm Street End EDIT:
Need to take The Matrix off of the list in my opinion. I know this may be sacralidge, but I watched it one to many times and I just kept thinking there were to many plot flaws in my opinion.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2008.07.23 09:31:00 -
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If you are talking Movies that changed something for SciFi
Someone suggested Terminator 2 for it's CGI work I would instead use The Abyss. It used all the same CGI tech, in fact this was why James Cameron made it, to prove the the technology would work on the big screen. It is also a pretty good movie.
Planet of the Apes (the Original) this is possibly the earliest SciFi fall of man rise of the XXX movie.
I would also have to agree with adding Akira ... it was the start of the Managa SciFi genre
Escape from New York. It was one of those classic cult SciFi movies ... not huge SciFI but still SciFi.
I am surprised to see the following not on the list. Rocky Horror Picture Show - I mean Come On! How can this not be genre defining ... Dark City - Dark twisty, good guy is the bad guy THX1138 - Go watch it now ....
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.07.23 16:40:00 -
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Ghost in the Shell should definately be included. Not because of it's novelty factor, but because it's one of the purest SciFi movies to have ever been made.
Yes, it's based on a comic, but that doesn't detract from it's value.

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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.07.23 16:45:00 -
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Rocky Horror Picture Show
enough said :P

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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.23 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 23/07/2008 16:48:06 i see no star trek movies in here, this list is fail for that
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Plumpy McPudding
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Posted - 2008.07.23 16:52:00 -
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.23 20:14:00 -
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So many reply so much to type....
J.. my friend J.... You are trying hard, I am swaying in and out on this one... Think I will have to dig out my video.. I leave it to the popular vote... Is Dark Star Genre Defining Sci Fi or not
I think it is pretty convince that we missed of Dark City and that should be there.
Slade Trillgon - Videodrome, I agree I think this should be include, but convince me. What else to it be compared to
CCP Lingorm (sigh dev.. I feel luck, or should that be unlucky)
Akira / Ghost in the Shell is one debate I will also leave to the masses. What do you lot think ? Are they different enough to both be included ?
THX1138 - My opinion No.. Rocky Horror Picture Show - I counter with The Little Shop
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Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider Posted - 2008.07.22 19:24:00 - [31] - QuoteReport
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 22/07/2008 19:27:11 The Thing Scanners Videodrome - watch this and think where reality TV is today
EDIT: Not Sci-Fi Sorry Pulp Fiction American Werewolf in London Halloween Nightmare on Elm Street End EDIT:
Need to take The Matrix off of the list in my opinion. I know this may be sacralidge, but I watched it one to many times and I just kept thinking there were to many plot flaws in my opinion.
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If you are talking Movies that changed something for SciFi
Someone suggested Terminator 2 for it's CGI work I would instead use The Abyss. It used all the same CGI tech, in fact this was why James Cameron made it, to prove the the technology would work on the big screen. It is also a pretty good movie.
Planet of the Apes (the Original) this is possibly the earliest SciFi fall of man rise of the XXX movie.
I would also have to agree with adding Akira ... it was the start of the Managa SciFi genre
Escape from New York. It was one of those classic cult SciFi movies ... not huge SciFI but still SciFi.
I am surprised to see the following not on the list. Rocky Horror Picture Show - I mean Come On! How can this not be genre defining ... Dark City - Dark twisty, good guy is the bad guy THX1138 - Go watch it now ....
Arvald - Star Trek - The question here is did ST film add anything to the movies, cos I dont think so.
Plumpy McPudding - Howard the Duck - I need to see this to match it to Plan 9 I think but I cant remeber how many trolls there were in this movie 
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.23 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Brigitte Helm Star Trek - The question here is did ST film add anything to the movies, cos I dont think so.
Generations, it added that emotionless androids could get an 'upgrade' and be funny!
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sg3s
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.24 02:03:00 -
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I will start killing innocent kittens if GITS (ghost in the shell) is not added... the thought alone makes me drew and want to watch it... but I really shouldn't do that for the 15th or something time.
Why is GITS so important for sci fi? For one it's story is so solid and powerfull that you would doubt even the best movies of today. Yes it is animation but it is in fact really good animation, especially the second movie. And for me it has changed my view of how we look at ourselves as human beings... I recon thats pretty damn awesome if a move, story, can do that to you.
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Dheorl
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.24 02:10:00 -
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I'm not sure 5th element should be on that list. Awsome movie, just not something that I would compare other movies to.
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Amandin Adouin
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Posted - 2008.07.24 02:37:00 -
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How could you leave TRON off that list?!!!
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Galk
Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said
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Posted - 2008.07.24 05:24:00 -
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Paul Verhoeven's wonders could well be added i think.
Robocop, recall, starship troopers.
Plan 9 ect and many other cheeseball movies from 70's and early 80's might be funny now, but holding it down with class to define the genre, Verhoeven.... hard to belive robocop is 20 something years old!!!
Nice to see the day the earth stood still, and forbidden planet in that list though, both those were two of my first thoughts:) ______
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Benilopax
Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.07.24 07:22:00 -
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Fifth element.
Glad to see Slient Running on the list to. 
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2008.07.24 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Lingorm on 24/07/2008 10:10:38 I take your little shop of horrors and counter with the following.
It is not SciFi ... Horror yes (funny hell yes) but it is just about a very large carnivorous plant. It is set in it's current time period (for both versions) and the plant is not an alien or genetic experiment ... from memory Seymour creates it from basic cross breading.
Yes it predates Rocky Horror, but Rocky Horror is definitely SciFi (besides Richard O'Brien was born just down the road from my home town *grin*).
THX1138 (1971) - Predates Logan's Run (1976) and deals with similar themes as Logan's Run and A Clockwork Orange (Corporate Control, Population Control, Though Control etc)
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.07.24 10:24:00 -
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It's a sad day when a good sci-fi movie can't just be a good sci-fi movie, it also has to go in a sub-genre.
I do hope you have nothing to do with filmmaking as obsessing over what goes in which box would automatically make something suck so bad one would think it was on Fox.
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drMile Kitic
Gallente Copperhead Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.24 10:24:00 -
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To hell with movies. Fondation series and Dune. Well, richard morgan is good too, so is hamilton, or alistair reynolds. Come to think i like mark giller. Greatwinter triology by sean mcmullen...........
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Dheorl
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm I am surprised to see the following not on the list. Rocky Horror Picture Show - I mean Come On! How can this not be genre defining ...
I think it's probably more gender defining than it is genre defining.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 24/07/2008 11:42:26 Mad Max Waterworld Tron Logan's Run Existenz Time Machine Day of the Triffids Back to the Future Starship Troopers Pitch Black
*shrugs* only seen about half the movies on the OP's list. guess I'm too young  ...
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.24 12:47:00 -
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Brigitte Helm
Minmatar Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.24 19:26:00 -
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Ok time to get caught up... appologies if I miss you.
sg3s - The Ghost in the Shell debate... I am convince, included.
Amandin Adouin - I wanted to put Tron on but it is was overcome by Matrix in the debate.
Galk - Robocop, maybe maybe
CCP Lingorm - hehe that was me being ebil.. Rocky is in, but Not THX1138 classic scifi but done better.
Wendat Huron - Quote: It's a sad day when a good sci-fi movie can't just be a good sci-fi movie, it also has to go in a sub-genre
I agree, I am not saying good movies here, just movies that are classics of their type. I love good, bad sci fi ... even Star trek
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drMile Kitic - Without question best pictures are on radio and best films are in books
Rawr Cristina - Quote: *shrugs* only seen about half the movies on the OP's list. guess I'm too young
All I will say it is late night TV and record everything that how I saw 12:01...
Slanty McGarglefist - Killer Clowns from Outer Space - I see it and raise you Earth Girls are easy 
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.24 21:19:00 -
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I'd also like to add some like Aurora, Mission to Mars.
Yes... I know they are terrible films, but what was asked here was genre defining, and to be frank you need to define the bottom area of the genre too.
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