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Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.03.17 20:39:00 -
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Please remove all the gas and dust clouds at missions/anomalies/plexes etc..
These do nothing but obscure the cool things we want to see (ships, structures, everything else), and drop frame rates considerably.
One or two concentrated clouds off to the side, that you are not IN during play is fine for aesthetics, but the entire field being covered in brown dust is just plain stupid
Please do this ultra simple fix right away. These clouds add nothing to the game, and some (the brown ones) actually make the game look worse
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.03.17 21:08:00 -
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Yes, please, some of these huge glowing gas clouds absolutely kill my frame rate, and are freaking obnoxious. I don't really mission as much anymore so it doesn't really affect me but I definitely agree with this. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
412
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Posted - 2012.03.17 22:31:00 -
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I rarely run these and I agree 100% |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
20
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Posted - 2012.03.17 23:36:00 -
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Word my bruthahs...
Support this thread please, CCP just do this next update pleeeeease. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
620
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Posted - 2012.03.17 23:40:00 -
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the dust slowly destroyes the coolant systems of my GPU. (and it does not look that good anyway, e.g even freespace had cooler looking nebulas back than) a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Komodo Askold
Shadows From the Void The Omega Industries
22
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:25:00 -
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They're beautiful, but in my opinion they're too "intense" most of the times.
I'd vote for them to be adjustable through settings: luminosity, density... things like that, including completely remove them if you want. Not just remove them completely, but having an option to do that. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
353
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Posted - 2012.03.19 15:20:00 -
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Komodo Askold wrote:They're beautiful, but in my opinion they're too "intense" most of the times.
I'd vote for them to be adjustable through settings: luminosity, density... things like that, including completely remove them if you want. Not just remove them completely, but having an option to do that.
+1, we need some controls over things of that nature. Thankfully most of the nebula was toned down a lot.
This is just a guess, When Eve first came out, graphics cards and monitors did not have the definition, clarity and contrast they have now, so everything was over done in some respects and there are still a few legacy things creeping around. |
Voxinian
1
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Posted - 2012.03.19 15:59:00 -
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big +1 from me too. I always zoom out in these areas cos you can't see a thing and it drops the fps a lot. I can run eve on max settings, but with large particle clouds I have to disable post-process. The gas clouds do look nice so maybe they can be placed further away from mission area's or less dense. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1284
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Posted - 2012.03.19 16:37:00 -
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Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.
Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.
kthanx. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
98
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:07:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.
Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.
kthanx. It doesn't have to.
Clouds aren't awesome.
Stop being an idiot. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
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Voxinian
1
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:20:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.
Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.
kthanx.
Big pile of bullshit. To many gamedevs already create games that require a NASA PC to run properly on high settings (as the developers it intended it to be played). The primary goal should always be gameplay and playability. If I get drop of 20fps in a cloud on a decent pc then thats not good. Besides that, you can't see a thing in those clouds. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
357
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:22:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.
Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.
kthanx.
Hence use of the word "optional" by many posters. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
500
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:26:00 -
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i aint upgrading my gpu just so i can look at a goddamn cloud, ccp you gotta fix your shiznit |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
22
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:33:00 -
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Komodo Askold wrote:They're beautiful, but in my opinion they're too "intense" most of the times.
I'd vote for them to be adjustable through settings: luminosity, density... things like that, including completely remove them if you want. Not just remove them completely, but having an option to do that.
Yes this. |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
22
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:37:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.
Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.
kthanx.
I have a GTX560 2gb of ram.... like 5th best gpu available.
But if you've ever ran a null-sec anomaly and had 50 npc's shooting at you at once, the effects will drop my frames from 200 to 30. (EVE on maxx settings minus shadows)
so you obviously know nothing about video cards or performance.
My point is, I would rather have my awesome graphics card (that runs BF3 on high) spend its resources rendering the ships and turret effects, than some ugly brown cloud. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1284
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:51:00 -
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Voxinian wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.
Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.
kthanx. Big pile of bullshit. To many gamedevs already create games that require a NASA PC to run properly on high settings (as the developers it intended it to be played). The primary goal should always be gameplay and playability. If I get drop of 20fps in a cloud on a decent pc then thats not good. Besides that, you can't see a thing in those clouds.
Because they blind you with pure awesomeness.
Now if only they screwed with the overview, dscan and probes as much as they do with your eyesight..... |
Asudem
Asen of Asgard
15
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:08:00 -
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Agreed. Give us at least an option to disable the display of those graphic elements. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
107
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:26:00 -
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How outdated are your computers? I'm using a 2008 Dell that was meant for media (1080p videos and awesome speakers FTW) and I'm running everything in EVE except the CQ on a healthy mixture of medium and high graphics. The only lag I get is when my internet decides to crap out on me. The FPS will drop just a tiny bit when I first warp into the room but it then quickly goes back to it's previous speed.
Seriously, get something without a floppy disk drive. Or if you can't do that then just zoom out all the way. You pretty much only need your overview and the control panel (if that's what the thing with the modules is called) to run missions anyway. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Resurrected Darkness
45
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:33:00 -
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I always felt that they shouldn't be glaringly white or overly opaque, but otherwise the only gripe I had with them is how utterly unrealistic they look in comparison to the rest of EVE. They don't drop my framerate, but if they're dropping everyone else's then there should at least be way fewer of them.
But please, for the love of Goddess, dim the bright white ones a little! There's something wrong when my mission occurs right next to a large cloud so brilliant that it literally shines through my overview and heads-up display so brightly that they cannot be read clearly. I spend a lot of time trying to find screen angles that work, and I don't actually get to see what I'm doing. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Reaver Glitterstim
Resurrected Darkness
45
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:36:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Voxinian wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.
Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.
kthanx. Big pile of bullshit. To many gamedevs already create games that require a NASA PC to run properly on high settings (as the developers it intended it to be played). The primary goal should always be gameplay and playability. If I get drop of 20fps in a cloud on a decent pc then thats not good. Besides that, you can't see a thing in those clouds. Because they blind you with pure awesomeness. Now if only they screwed with the overview, dscan and probes as much as they do with your eyesight.....
Oh but they do. All of the overview elements are slightly transparent, and that slightly means that the glaringlly bright clouds shine right through so brightly that they obscure most everything in front of them. They also glare around the edges of opaque ships and objects, making them nearly impossible to see. Even the stars aren't this bright. Literally, they aren't. Go check and compare. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
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Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
22
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:18:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:How outdated are your computers? I'm using a 2008 Dell that was meant for media (1080p videos and awesome speakers FTW) and I'm running everything in EVE except the CQ on a healthy mixture of medium and high graphics. The only lag I get is when my internet decides to crap out on me. The FPS will drop just a tiny bit when I first warp into the room but it then quickly goes back to it's previous speed.
Seriously, get something without a floppy disk drive. Or if you can't do that then just zoom out all the way. You pretty much only need your overview and the control panel (if that's what the thing with the modules is called) to run missions anyway.
If you are playing EVE on a 2008 dell on medium/high then your frames are probably horrific, you are just a gaming noob so 30 frames to you is acceptable.
As I said, I have a gaming tower that runs BF3 on high and my video card is a GTX560 2GB... 30 frames is NOT acceptable to me.
150+ frames is what I get sitting in space at any normal location, with few or no other ships. I am willing to accept 60-100 in plexes and anomalies, but not 20-30.
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Ann Can
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:50:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote: If you are playing EVE on a 2008 dell on medium/high then your frames are probably horrific, you are just a gaming noob so 30 frames to you is acceptable.
What a bunch of egeek dweeb noobers. Throw enough hardware at anything and it will run. How many of you could run Eve with everything on max on an 11 year old computer and still get 60+ FPS?
Bunch of whiney brats that don't know a damn thing about computers thumping their chest over hardware and software they barely comprehend. |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
22
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:55:00 -
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So was that a dig towards me?
What was your point?
I'm the egeek noober?
I don't get your post at all. Throw enough hardware at anything and it will run? What are you trying to say here? |
Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian Pinked
40
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Posted - 2012.03.20 04:21:00 -
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Coming up on your right: Giant Lag-Inducing Bright-Ass Cloud Real Caldari Hull Tank (And Win doing so) Support https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580 |
Sir Substance
Tactical Knightmare
505
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Posted - 2012.03.20 07:12:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote: I have a GTX560 2gb of ram.... like 5th best gpu available.
and yet its doing worse then my 6970. Its funny, whenever these odd framerate issues, come up, the poster always says "but I have a GTX560, its rly gd, so it cant be my card!". Methinks that the 560 may have some issues bro. Ishtar Starfire: As a pure caldari pilot i feel that with the deployment of the new tier 3 battlecruisers you have given an unfair advantage to everyone except caldari pilots. an example would be like giving a fat kid a whole cake while the skinny kid has to watch and get nothing.
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Voxinian
3
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Posted - 2012.03.20 08:10:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
But please, for the love of Goddess, dim the bright white ones a little! There's something wrong when my mission occurs right next to a large cloud so brilliant that it literally shines through my overview and heads-up display so brightly that they cannot be read clearly. I spend a lot of time trying to find screen angles that work, and I don't actually get to see what I'm doing.
yes +1 for this too.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Malicious Mission Murderers
106
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Posted - 2012.03.20 10:10:00 -
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Sir Substance wrote:Leto Aramaus wrote: I have a GTX560 2gb of ram.... like 5th best gpu available.
and yet its doing worse then my 6970. Its funny, whenever these odd framerate issues, come up, the poster always says "but I have a GTX560, its rly gd, so it cant be my card!". Methinks that the 560 may have some issues bro. Quit being an ATI/AMD Fanboy. Just because a card is made by a certain company doesn't automatically make it better than anything made by the rival company.
And I may be using a Radeon HD 4670, but I'm willing to switch to a newer graphics card anyday. Doesn't matter wether it is Nvidia or ATI. This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |
Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
119
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Posted - 2012.03.20 11:20:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Coming up on your right: Giant Lag-Inducing Bright Ass-Cloud justsayin'
OT: I've never really had a problem with these. I'd like it if they reacted to having my ship in the middle of them (having a wake would be awesome), but that's really a different topic. Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1126
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Posted - 2012.03.20 14:30:00 -
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Yeah, there's nothing like that great visual experience when you zoom in on your ship in combat only to see a vast expanse of whatever color this particular cloud is. It's pointless, uses resources for no good reason, and spoils the view for those people who care to enjoy it. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
28
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Posted - 2012.03.20 14:51:00 -
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Sir Substance wrote:Leto Aramaus wrote: I have a GTX560 2gb of ram.... like 5th best gpu available.
and yet its doing worse then my 6970. Its funny, whenever these odd framerate issues, come up, the poster always says "but I have a GTX560, its rly gd, so it cant be my card!". Methinks that the 560 may have some issues bro.
Yes for one, because you know how my card "is doing".
Methinks it's not the 560 and saying "but i have a GTX560, its rly good" is a true statement and has relevance to this topic. How many times do I have to say it, my card runs EVE on max with 150+ frames, runs BF3 on high with 50+ frames, runs every game fine... I'm not saying every mission or deadspace site I enter makes the game run horribly, most of the time I'm still getting 80 fps.
My point is, the clouds are UGLY.
AND they reduce framerate, I don't care what card you have, or how high your FPS are, you're getting LESS when these stupid clouds are on your screen, and that is annoying.
I don't like them and I want the option to get rid of them.
here are some example of how ugly and stupid these completely unrealistic and unexplained masses of dust are...
http://tinypic.com/r/2dhy9ag/5 >>> UGLY
http://tinypic.com/r/zsqrzp/5 >>>> you CAN'T tell me you want these in your game.... |
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1285
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Posted - 2012.03.20 15:10:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:How outdated are your computers? I'm using a 2008 Dell that was meant for media (1080p videos and awesome speakers FTW) and I'm running everything in EVE except the CQ on a healthy mixture of medium and high graphics. The only lag I get is when my internet decides to crap out on me. The FPS will drop just a tiny bit when I first warp into the room but it then quickly goes back to it's previous speed. .
iknowrite
I'm fine with a graphics option to switch them on or off. |
Komodo Askold
Shadows From the Void The Omega Industries
25
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:52:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I always felt that they shouldn't be glaringly white or overly opaque, but otherwise the only gripe I had with them is how utterly unrealistic they look in comparison to the rest of EVE. They don't drop my framerate, but if they're dropping everyone else's then there should at least be way fewer of them.
But please, for the love of Goddess, dim the bright white ones a little! There's something wrong when my mission occurs right next to a large cloud so brilliant that it literally shines through my overview and heads-up display so brightly that they cannot be read clearly. I spend a lot of time trying to find screen angles that work, and I don't actually get to see what I'm doing. Oh yes. Think about Ladar gas clouds too; they're a bit exagerated. Definitevely, gas clouds, harvestable or not, need to be remodelled (so they match with the current game beauty) and also be able to be adjusted at players' will.
The thing is, how to improve those models? Really, any gas cloud located in space would be very bright due to reflection of stars' light (think about nebulae). But they surely can be less brightness than the current one. Imagine, for example, a dust cloud: it would be very dark, opaque. |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
29
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Posted - 2012.03.20 21:41:00 -
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I think a good way to improve, at least the non-harvestable scenery clouds that surround almost every deadspace or anomaly location, would be to make the cloud/nebula more of a background, than a rendered object that you are inside. Anyone remember the mission where you have to warp into a seemingly endless spans of green toxic cloud (you can see funnel clouds WAY off in the distance) that damages your ship over time...?
Make the gas and aesthetic clouds in missions like this, where the nebula is far off in the distance, giving you a different view from just normal space, but not surrounded by thick dust.
Here's another screen shot of complete ludicrosity... (yea i know thats not a word)
http://tinypic.com/r/27ynz9c/5 <<<< pure uglyness
This really needs to be changed, not even for performance issues, just for gameplay enjoyment. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Resurrected Darkness
49
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Posted - 2012.03.21 05:58:00 -
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Komodo Askold wrote:Really, any gas cloud located in space would be very bright due to reflection of stars' light (think about nebulae). But they surely can be less brightness than the current one. Imagine, for example, a dust cloud: it would be very dark, opaque.
Actually at that scale, gas clouds are invisible. Even great big nebulas, which span expanses so great there are multiple stars within them, are so dim that you have to expose them for several minutes just to see them clearly. Dust clouds that large are quite easy to see, but small ones not so much.
*points up to what Leto Aramaus said* See, it's not just more realistic that way, but it makes for better gameplay too! We should be able to see the gas clouds in the distance, while the objects up close are unobscured. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
30
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Posted - 2012.03.21 21:00:00 -
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Ok I'm just gonna use this particular thread to say this, could go on any of the FAI threads, but might as well be this one since there's a decent amount of support....
CCP, the features and ideas forum has lots of ideas, some bad, some good, however...
Some are not just ideas, for new things in the game, new features, etc...
Some are FIXES** like this thread.
How many employees do you have there in Iceland?
Not enough to at least hire ONE person who's job it is to monitor these forums and respond to the playerbase?
How hard would it be to take 30 minutes out of every day to peruse these forums and go through the BLATANTLY wanted and sometimes needed idea threads, and post as a GM or Dev, and tell us that you're going to do them and then....
ACTUALLY. DO. THEM.
Why do you have this section of the forums if you aren't going to read them? Why do you read them if you aren't going to implement them?
You make me sick CCP, someone please buy out this company and start running EVE with some semblance of customer service and community support.
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fisk Alabel
A Big Enough Lever Numquam Ambulare Solus
0
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Posted - 2012.03.21 21:20:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:Sir Substance wrote:Leto Aramaus wrote: I have a GTX560 2gb of ram.... like 5th best gpu available.
and yet its doing worse then my 6970. Its funny, whenever these odd framerate issues, come up, the poster always says "but I have a GTX560, its rly gd, so it cant be my card!". Methinks that the 560 may have some issues bro. Yes for one, because you know how my card "is doing". Methinks it's not the 560 and saying "but i have a GTX560, its rly good" is a true statement and has relevance to this topic. How many times do I have to say it, my card runs EVE on max with 150+ frames, runs BF3 on high with 50+ frames, runs every game fine... I'm not saying every mission or deadspace site I enter makes the game run horribly, most of the time I'm still getting 80 fps. My point is, the clouds are UGLY. AND they reduce framerate, I don't care what card you have, or how high your FPS are, you're getting LESS when these stupid clouds are on your screen, and that is annoying. I don't like them and I want the option to get rid of them. here are some example of how ugly and stupid these completely unrealistic and unexplained masses of dust are... http://tinypic.com/r/2dhy9ag/5 >>> UGLY http://tinypic.com/r/zsqrzp/5 >>>> you CAN'T tell me you want these in your game....
i actually likes the clouds and i think the SS you took makes a good example of how beautiful clouds can be.
but i agree that there should be an option to shut off clouds because everyone have diffrent taste |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
30
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Posted - 2012.03.21 21:24:00 -
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Yes so beautiful those bright screens full of particles that obscure everything else in the game, including the HUD.
You sir have a strange definition of beauty. |
Valea Silpha
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
43
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Posted - 2012.03.21 22:17:00 -
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Please don't feed the trolls guys. And that includes anyone saying the clouds are nice, because they can't be. They don't look like anything, and obscure ALL the nice graphics.
I totally endorse this idea.
If the clouds must remain (because CCP are weird) then they need to be rendered in a different way. Don't make them a particle field, make them a generic almost-transparent blob. That way we get a cloud, but one that won't hurt frame rates, and hopefully one that is significantly less opaque. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2012.03.21 22:31:00 -
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I don't mind "clouds" per say, but it's the annoying lighting that comes off of them.
You can't zoom out or have the camera oriented towards the clouds, else it's the same thing as stairing into the sun.
As well, suns need to be dimmed down.
I realize that if I were in real space the sun would be too bright to look at and that gas clouds would refract the sun's light making them seem a bit blinding.
HOWEVER, I am not in real freaking space!!!!! I'm playing a game that I would like to be able to see on decent graphics setting without being blinded by crap. I have my graphics turned down just because of the bright crap!!! |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
32
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Posted - 2012.03.21 22:55:00 -
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Dear forum users....
Hello, this is NOT a CCP Developer who is NOT responding to the game community and assuring that this issue will be promptly taken care of.
Thank you for NOT quitting the game due to our lack of communication or listening to our customers. We will continue to NOT listen to your ideas and NOT implement them in a timely fashion at all.
If you have any questions or complaints, please feel free to NOT post on this forum on any other forum, and don't bother filing a petition for something such as this, because we only change the game as WE see fit, not as the players want it.
Thank you, signed...
NOT a CCP dev. (because we never read or post in any of the threads except our own stickies) |
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1292
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Posted - 2012.03.22 05:41:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:So was that a dig towards me?
What was your point?
I'm the egeek noober?
I don't get your post at all. Throw enough hardware at anything and it will run? What are you trying to say here?
In your case, there isn't enough common sense to throw at you to make a difference...
Maybe you should beg CCP to tell you how to switch your client back to software mode. Maybe your PC will be uber enough to run on highest settings and give you your desired FPS rate...
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
114
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Posted - 2012.03.22 06:36:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:How outdated are your computers? I'm using a 2008 Dell that was meant for media (1080p videos and awesome speakers FTW) and I'm running everything in EVE except the CQ on a healthy mixture of medium and high graphics. The only lag I get is when my internet decides to crap out on me. The FPS will drop just a tiny bit when I first warp into the room but it then quickly goes back to it's previous speed.
Seriously, get something without a floppy disk drive. Or if you can't do that then just zoom out all the way. You pretty much only need your overview and the control panel (if that's what the thing with the modules is called) to run missions anyway. If you are playing EVE on a 2008 dell on medium/high then your frames are probably horrific, you are just a gaming noob so 30 frames to you is acceptable. As I said, I have a gaming tower that runs BF3 on high and my video card is a GTX560 2GB... 30 frames is NOT acceptable to me. 150+ frames is what I get sitting in space at any normal location, with few or no other ships. I am willing to accept 60-100 in plexes and anomalies, but not 20-30.
I love how people like you think that the only thing that matters when it games to graphics is a video card so nothing should lag. It couldn't be your RAM, background programs and processes or even your own internet speed.
Plus how does not giving a damn about FPS or graphics in general make me a gaming noob? The Nintendo DS sold more than any console this generation, the Nintendo Wii sold more home consoles than any other and Minecraft was the most downloaded PC game last year.
Clearly, people don't give a **** about graphics. It's the gameplay that matters.
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2012.03.22 07:30:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Plus how does not giving a damn about FPS... make me a gaming noob? Some of us here aren't content with our 15 FPS when we drop into gas clouds in missions, and that's running on low graphics. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
37
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Posted - 2012.03.22 17:45:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Leto Aramaus wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:How outdated are your computers? I'm using a 2008 Dell that was meant for media (1080p videos and awesome speakers FTW) and I'm running everything in EVE except the CQ on a healthy mixture of medium and high graphics. The only lag I get is when my internet decides to crap out on me. The FPS will drop just a tiny bit when I first warp into the room but it then quickly goes back to it's previous speed.
Seriously, get something without a floppy disk drive. Or if you can't do that then just zoom out all the way. You pretty much only need your overview and the control panel (if that's what the thing with the modules is called) to run missions anyway. If you are playing EVE on a 2008 dell on medium/high then your frames are probably horrific, you are just a gaming noob so 30 frames to you is acceptable. As I said, I have a gaming tower that runs BF3 on high and my video card is a GTX560 2GB... 30 frames is NOT acceptable to me. 150+ frames is what I get sitting in space at any normal location, with few or no other ships. I am willing to accept 60-100 in plexes and anomalies, but not 20-30. I love how people like you think that the only thing that matters when it games to graphics is a video card so nothing should lag. It couldn't be your RAM, background programs and processes or even your own internet speed. Plus how does not giving a damn about FPS or graphics in general make me a gaming noob? The Nintendo DS sold more than any console this generation, the Nintendo Wii sold more home consoles than any other and Minecraft was the most downloaded PC game last year. Clearly, people don't give a **** about graphics. It's the gameplay that matters.
Lol at Asuka and this guy...
Would you like my system specs?
You already know I have a GTX560 2GB GDDR5, want the newegg link? 8GB of system ram DDR3 1600 AMD Phenom II X4 SSD C: drive
Now will you shut the hell up about system specs? My computer is NOT the problem.
The problem is the ugly gas and dust clouds.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They don't ruin my frame rates, they just make them lower than they could be, AND they are ugly.
Asuka, you don't even back up your arguments. You're just flaming for flaming's sake because you want to sound cool on the forums.
Your first little indecipherable post made no sense, and neither does that last one. If you're going to make a point, make it clearly and say what you want to say.
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:25:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:They don't ruin my frame rates, they just make them lower than they could be You're shifting the focus away from those of us who actually have problems rendering the clouds. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Leto Aramaus wrote:They don't ruin my frame rates, they just make them lower than they could be You're shifting the focus away from those of us who actually have problems rendering the clouds.
I dont' care about rendering or frame rates at all. None of that is my concern.
The problem that I'm having is G.D. ambient light coming off of them. It continues to blind me while I'm in the missions or wherever else. I can't zoom out away from my ship because then the light off the coulds obscures my view of my ship and everything else, and I can't turn my camera because then I'm looking right into the light coming off the clouds and can't see anything.
My only option is to either dumb down my graphics so the coulds aren't so bright and I am able to see everything, or stay zoomed in on my ship where all I can really see is my ship. Both of those kinda suck considering all the new rendering CCP has put in. |
Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
37
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Posted - 2012.03.22 18:56:00 -
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James I'm not shifting away from anyone...
first of all, this is my thread, so it's actually about what I say it's about.
second... both of these are problems.
I hate the looks, your computer can't handle them graphically.
This guy gets blinded by them, and so do I, so his argument is good too.
The fact is, these thick ugly clouds are stupid and they got to go, for multiple reasons. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
117
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Posted - 2012.03.22 19:57:00 -
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[quote=Leto Aramaus][quote=Fredfredbug4][quote=Leto Aramaus][quote=Fredfredbug4]How outdated are your computers? I'm using a 2008 Dell that was meant for media (1080p videos and awesome speakers FTW) and I'm running everything in EVE except the CQ on a healthy mixture of medium and high graphics. The only lag I get is when my internet decides to crap out on me. The FPS will drop just a tiny bit when I first warp into the room but it then quickly goes back to it's previous speed.
Seriously, get something without a floppy disk drive. Or if you can't do that then just zoom out all the way. You pretty much only need your overview and the control panel (if that's what the thing with the modules is called) to run missions anyway.[/quote
If you are playing EVE on a 2008 dell on medium/high then your frames are probably horrific, you are just a gaming noob so 30 frames to you is acceptable.
As I said, I have a gaming tower that runs BF3 on high and my video card is a GTX560 2GB... 30 frames is NOT acceptable to me.
150+ frames is what I get sitting in space at any normal location, with few or no other ships. I am willing to accept 60-100 in plexes and anomalies, but not 20-30. [/quote
I love how people like you think that the only thing that matters when it games to graphics is a video card so nothing should lag. It couldn't be your RAM, background programs and processes or even your own internet speed.
Plus how does not giving a damn about FPS or graphics in general make me a gaming noob? The Nintendo DS sold more than any console this generation, the Nintendo Wii sold more home consoles than any other and Minecraft was the most downloaded PC game last year.
Clearly, people don't give a **** about graphics. It's the gameplay that matters. [/quote
Lol at Asuka and this guy..
Would you like my system specs?
You already know I have a GTX560 2GB GDDR5, want the newegg link? 8GB of system ram DDR3 160 AMD Phenom II X SSD C: driv
Now will you shut the hell up about system specs? My computer is NOT the problem
The problem is the ugly gas and dust clouds.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They don't ruin my frame rates, they just make them lower than they could be, AND they are ugly.
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If your computer is not the problem, then it's probably your internet speed or ability to connect to the EVE server.
Plus, after about 64 FPS or so the human brain's ability to actually decipher the difference in frame rates lowers drastically. Once you get past 64 FPS the only thing your going to notice are effects like motion blur which EVE doesn't have a whole lot of.
Here is a tool to prove my poin
http://frames-per-second.appspot.com
Make the spheres have the same attributes except for FPS, preferably one at 60 and the other at 120 so you can see what I'm talking about, unless you have completely unnatural eyesight your not going to see much of a difference. The difference between 30FPS and 120FPS is more noticeable but unless you were specifically trying to spot the difference you probably wouldn't notice it.
If gas clouds reduced your FPS to 5 then I could see some cause for concern. But 30FPS and 60FPS are the rates at which most movies, television shows and games are optimized at. I'm actually starting to think you are just trolling now. Out of all the things people ***** about constantly on these forums I never thought space gas would be one of them
I'm just going to leave it at that, I know what your response is probably going to be to this post. Your not going to bring up any valid points, just talk about how awesome your computer (apparently) is. This conversation is just going to go in circles until one of us gets butthurt or bored. I'm bored so I'll just leave you at that.
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Leto Aramaus
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
38
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Posted - 2012.03.22 20:03:00 -
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Oh my god are you serious?
You obviously know nothing at all about performance, frame rates, or lag...
LAG and frame rates are two completely different things.
Wow you are a moron really.
No valid points here at all, just gonna talk about how great my computer is, you're totally right.
Seriously you are a computer RET@RD.
Oh and you obviously haven't read a single thing I said.. how many times....
THE CLOUDS ARE UGLY. (and reduce frames unnecessarily)
Get the f**k out of here your dumb piece of sh*t. |
Saelrin
The Craniac The Aurora Shadow
0
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Posted - 2012.03.31 07:03:00 -
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I hope CCP gives this some thought, an option to turn them on and off wouldn't hurt anybody |
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Samuel Namhtor
Greater Wolf Mining Inc. Tutus Fugere
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Posted - 2012.04.25 13:53:00 -
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im +1 with this. gas clouds are cool, but at least do something about it like in Freelancer. im using crappy video card when playing Freelancer but it wasnt any problemw ith the frame rate drop if im flying through gas clouds.
NOTE: Turning off shadow make 150% impact on frame rate. no more 20 fps, mine is stabil in 60 fps |
Kais Klip
Eagle's Warrior's Eyrie Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:02:00 -
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+1, especially if that instance turns into PvP.
On a related note, how about making the local sun this annoying? You're going to call "Filters.", but a star's so bright that what you're seeing is the filtered amount. If I remember correctly, the local sun already looks dimmer the further away you are from it, so there shouldn't be a problem with that tactical aspect. Aye, a sufficient counter would be to simply rotate the camera to put the sun behind the viewer, but that'll impact manuevering. I suppose that leaves the factor to which NPC's in PvE situations are going to be affected, but it's time to give 'em a break. Well? A too "deep" tactical option, that'll look out of place when so many others are ignored? Well you gotta start somewhere...
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:[quote=Leto Aramaus][quote=Fredfredbug4][quote=Leto Aramaus][quote=Fredfredbug4]
If gas clouds reduced your FPS to 5 then I could see some cause for concern. But 30FPS and 60FPS are the rates at which most movies, television shows and games are optimized at. I'm actually starting to think you are just trolling now. Out of all the things people ***** about constantly on these forums I never thought space gas would be one of them
I'm just going to leave it at that, I know what your response is probably going to be to this post. Your not going to bring up any valid points, just talk about how awesome your computer (apparently) is. This conversation is just going to go in circles until one of us gets butthurt or bored. I'm bored so I'll just leave you at that.
I'd place a bet that a significant amount of people run the client on machines that are on par with the recommended settings (not below as I want to avoid the "Well they shouldn't play" jab), so those people do witness a significant impact on performance when within th gas clouds.
What I believe Leto was trying to point out was the horrendous impact performance of a "useless" (not advocating minimal eye candy here) item - if something twists 200+FPS (or whatever triple digit number it is when fighting necs in "clean" space) into 60 then someone needs to do a better job at the graphical optimisation department.
What would really give this thread a credible boost towards actually becoming an issue is if someone with a machine that operates just on the boundary of the recommended specs gave their account. |
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
35
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Posted - 2012.04.28 10:00:00 -
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Bump...
Posted this same thing here
Only I was asking for it in simply one site so far. I got the same lack of Dev response. This can't possibly be an incredibly difficult thing to deal with.. just take the damn things out until a real fix can be made.
please. |
Samuel Namhtor
Greater Wolf Mining Inc. Tutus Fugere
3
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:46:00 -
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im +1 with this |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2012.04.29 17:38:00 -
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I'm still tired of being blinded by them, thus unable to actually see the combat play out. |
Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.04.29 17:58:00 -
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ive never paid much attention to my fps, im pretty sure it sticks around 30, with two or three clients open and running,
I hate gas clouds for a completely different rason then fps slowdown or lag.
they make everything harder to see. Bright white light obscures my overview and near everything else as well.
why is anyone arguing against an optional removal of gas clouds/dust? |
Lubomir Sakato
Sakato Engineering Services
3
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:01:00 -
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I-¦m a bit surprised about the fps-problems some people have with these clouds.
Ok, i don-¦t know how it would be in anomalys, I just know these clouds from (lvl4) missions. There i don-¦t have any framerate problems, even more surprising as I run eve on a rather outdated rig:
Intel Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz GTX 560 Ti 8GB DDR2 Ram
In space I have ~200fps, in mission with clouds never below ~110. Settings are all on high except shadowquality on low and HDR disabled. Most of the times I run 2 clients on this rig with dualscreen, even then I have never below ~50-60fps on both screens.
Concerning aesthetics, I definately would support some way to configure the clouds as they make in some cases the overview very hard to read, sometimes even modulestatis is very hard to see due to the then much lowered contrast to the background.
so +1 for a way to configure clouds |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
74
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:24:00 -
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Most of the clouds just make the screen bright as **** anyways. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:32:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:Most of the clouds just make the screen bright as **** anyways.
that's what annoys the p!ss out of me about it...same thing as parking next to the sun and then turning your camera so you can stair into it... |
Jizaburo Ozawa
Knights Of Nein
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 10:58:00 -
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What happens when you ctrl-f9 and remove the whole hud? Does the framerate return to normal? |
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Tiger Armani
Mialto Corp The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2012.05.08 13:32:00 -
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+ 1 with this one.
I'm currently forced to play with EliteBook 8540p with two 24" monitors.
We just moved to C5 with catalysmic bonus, and those effects are killing my dualboxing. Before this, I had no problems running two clients with low res.
Now i have to zoom out and rotate my view in both clients to hide these effects. It gets even worse when I do some gas harvesting.
Please CCP give some option to disable these. |
Oberine Noriepa
716
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Posted - 2012.05.08 15:08:00 -
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Going to have to agree. These assets look terrible. |
bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.06.17 05:06:00 -
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Clouds look like crap anyways, didn't know we were still in the duke nukem 3D era. It's not that the 30 FPS I get while these clouds are on screen makes the game unplayable, it's the transition from a smooth 60 FPS to a crappy every movement feels dirty 30 FPS that makes them so bad. I have a high end machine that I just built three months ago, eve doesn't exactly have breathtaking graphics so I fail to see why I shouldn't be able to run the game at a smooth Vsync enforced 60 FPS AT ALL TIMES. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
237
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Posted - 2012.06.17 06:38:00 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:Please remove all the gas and dust clouds at missions/anomalies/plexes etc..
These do nothing but obscure the cool things we want to see (ships, structures, everything else), and drop frame rates considerably.
One or two concentrated clouds off to the side, that you are not IN during play is fine for aesthetics, but the entire field being covered in brown dust is just plain stupid
Please do this ultra simple fix right away. These clouds add nothing to the game, and some (the brown ones) actually make the game look worse
gas and dust are probably common in the real galaxy... I just wish that sometimes the gas clouds in these sites were mineable. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Kiran
Knights of Azrael The Azrael Alliance
16
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Posted - 2012.06.17 08:55:00 -
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You need a better PC if it hits your PC that hard in FPS. Mine runs fine with them and I like the way they are thank you. |
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