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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Akov Stohs The op is trying to infer Goons have been launching attacks against TeamSpeak servers.
Yes they do.
They did this to the RoadKill/SMASH server. The solution was for the admin to ban the whole IP range of the attacking pc's IP. The admin tried to ban just the IP but the attacker switched instantaneously to another IP.
So if you suddenly find someone connecting and disconnecting to your server over and over again the Goons have attacked and just outright ban the whole IP and be done with it.
If they have spies then they know your password and will attempt to bring your communications down at the best time to inflict the most losses on your ships. It has nothing to do with whether TS is better or worse then other programs.
I decided that the answer needs to be upfront in it's own post so other alliances that are attacked by the Goons will know what to do about these attacks.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
They did this to the RoadKill/SMASH server.
Yes because Goons are the only people in EVE who think RK/Smash are sh*t, and therefore are obviously the only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
I decided that the answer needs to be upfront in it's own post so other alliances that are attacked by the Goons will know what to do about these attacks.
You must be clinically insane to spout this idiocy in print for other people to read.
What you mean is you decided to slander a group, without proper proof, and post several lines of utter and total unfounded bullsh*t....
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toxicvega
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: toxicvega on 21/07/2008 20:20:33 First in a thread about stuff form another thread.
Welp, Second I guess.
-_/-_/-_/-_/- Please return trays to their upright position. Thanks you for riding the forums
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: TroNaaR on 21/07/2008 20:20:48 TS f$$$$ing sucks
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Trind2222
Amarr The Red Ring
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 -
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They are not goonswarm they are goons.net This happen in the past whit dark rising is shod be a post some where about it.
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Junie Jones
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: toxicvega First in a thread about stuff form another thread.
Quotin sum fail in dis post
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Hyrieus
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:22:00 -
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I'm in your teamspeak, hacking your communications.
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kublai
Caldari Art of War
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:23:00 -
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I'm attacking your post...as usual.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin ... only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.
This about the tactics Goons use to hamper communications not about whether RK/Smash deserved to fall.
And you can try to spin this anyway you want.... Goons used and use this tactic.
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Karina Bellac
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:24:00 -
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It's not hard to achieve, considering your computer is broadcasting an IP address.
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:24:00 -
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We're hacking you with our own custom version of AOHell 2.0, true story.
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Hyrieus
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Grath Telkin ... only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.
This about the tactics Goons use to hamper communications not about whether RK/Smash deserved to fall.
And you can try to spin this anyway you want.... Goons used and use this tactic.
With Peoke on TS, they're probably doing you a favor tbh.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hyrieus With Peoke on TS, they're probably doing you a favor tbh.
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Trind2222
Amarr The Red Ring
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Grath Telkin ... only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.
This about the tactics Goons use to hamper communications not about whether RK/Smash deserved to fall.
And you can try to spin this anyway you want.... Goons used and use this tactic.
1. They are not goons form in game.
2. They are hackers who hacks Team Server knowns as goons.net
3.No one in goons will hack ts they send a Spy in your corp but newer hack the ts.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Trind2222 3.No one in goons will hack ts they send a Spy in your corp but newer hack the ts.
Riiiiight.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise This about the tactics Goons use to hamper communications not about whether RK/Smash deserved to fall.
Perhaps i can spell it out for you since you failed to grasp the concept of my post.
JUST because it happened when you were fighting Goon, doesn't mean it WAS Goon, could have been anybody out of the thousands of EVE players who think your are sh*t, that decided to help out Goon in their own way by attacking your TS during the fleet fight.
Sometimes, being a big enough piece of sh*t, can result in the entire cluster wanting you flushed, so don't assume it was a Goon, could've been anybody...anybody that didn't like you at all, and had the notice of the fleet op, and the ability to commit the time to making you miserable.
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:34:00 -
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Since you felt this required a whole new thread, I'll repeat myself here and make you look stupid in both places.
So what you're saying is that SE/c0ven/ATLAS whoever are too cheap to pony up for a real TS server? What did you think would happen when you pile 200+ people onto a free TS host? Or maybe you're saying that the SE/c0ven/ATLAS Teamspeak server admin is too stupid to anticipate heavy load and adjust broadcast bitrates to accommodate said load? Read > Comprehend > Post. You're a colossal idiot. Nobody compared TS to other programs - I'm talking about the quality of the server you host it on. Or did you think some magical Internet Fairy connected all your voices together? In the true spirit of EVE-O forums idiocy, "Proof or STFU."
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Trind2222
Amarr The Red Ring
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Trind2222 3.No one in goons will hack ts they send a Spy in your corp but newer hack the ts.
Riiiiight.
My god you dumb. oh I found it here is proof http://eve-search.com/thread/502678
By the way I don't like goons but I know how far they will go.
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Trind2222
oh I found it here is proof http://eve-search.com/thread/502678
By the way I don't like goons but I know how far they will go.
All that proves is that your corp was riddled with spies and someone socially engineered their way into TeamSpeak CA/SA rights. "Hacking" is not the same as "being a sucker."
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Scavok on 21/07/2008 20:44:50
RK/Smash should probably look internally considering how many of your members were bitter as hell and giving me accounts hand over fist to your TS.
When your TS was attacked I had a slight superiority in system and like 4 people in your gang and ts that were feeding me intel. There was no reason for me or anyone in the leadership who was aware of what was going on to try to stop you from doing something stupid so we could kill your fleet if you ever left your POS.
It's possible it was a random goon, as just about anyone who wanted a registered account on your server could get one with the insane amount of SA's you guys had. But it's just as likely to be anyone else who doesn't like you, or even just some random 14 year old playing with a new script who stumbled across a big vulnerable ts server.
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Trind2222
Amarr The Red Ring
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hesh Ballantine
Originally by: Trind2222
oh I found it here is proof http://eve-search.com/thread/502678
By the way I don't like goons but I know how far they will go.
All that proves is that your corp was riddled with spies and someone socially engineered their way into TeamSpeak CA/SA rights. "Hacking" is not the same as "being a sucker."
This was long time but this what happened : We normal had normal chat on ts. sudenly some unknown admin logged on invited allot of guys insulting us kicking us we cud not rejoin. We even talked to one goonswarm leaders conferming it was not goonswarm.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:51:00 -
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Its me I am the haxxor in the op -----------
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin Yes because Goons are the only people in EVE who think RK/Smash are sh*t, and therefore are obviously the only people who had any interest in seeing the clowns over there fall.
You don't like us?
But we like you.
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Trind2222
This was long time but this what happened : We normal had normal chat on ts. sudenly some unknown admin logged on invited allot of guys insulting us kicking us we cud not rejoin. We even talked to one goonswarm leaders conferming it was not goonswarm.
This is what really happened:
You trusted too many people, and gave too many people SA. One (or more) was a spy. That person created this 'unknown admin' through completely normal methods.
Again, why waste the effort of brute force hacking someone's password when you know they're dumb enough to just give it to you?
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Tress Macneille
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:53:00 -
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yeah we did that
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n00b alt3
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 21/07/2008 20:44:50
RK/Smash should probably look internally considering how many of your members were bitter as hell and giving me accounts hand over fist to your TS.
When your TS was attacked I had a slight superiority in system and like 4 people in your gang and ts that were feeding me intel. There was no reason for me or anyone in the leadership who was aware of what was going on to try to stop you from doing something stupid so we could kill your fleet if you ever left your POS.
It's possible it was a random goon, as just about anyone who wanted a registered account on your server could get one with the insane amount of SA's you guys had. But it's just as likely to be anyone else who doesn't like you, or even just some random 14 year old playing with a new script who stumbled across a big vulnerable ts server.
first off our ts wasn't hacked, so to speak, we just had about 10 accounts rapidly joining and leaving the server, and with the bouncing that all the channels did, it was hard to actually join the right channel by clicking.
The odds of some group just randomly doing this at the exact time that a fleet fight is going on on said ts is pretty unlikely, seeing as the previous 20 months had been attack-free.
The one time this happened that i was online for, btw, we held the field and killed more ships.
then two hours later someone decided it would be cool to bring 10 or so carriers to camp the gate with 20+ hostile dreads in system.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.21 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Scavok Edited by: Scavok on 21/07/2008 20:44:50
RK/Smash should probably look internally considering how many of your members were bitter as hell and giving me accounts hand over fist to your TS.
When your TS was attacked I had a slight superiority in system and like 4 people in your gang and ts that were feeding me intel. There was no reason for me or anyone in the leadership who was aware of what was going on to try to stop you from doing something stupid so we could kill your fleet if you ever left your POS.
It's possible it was a random goon, as just about anyone who wanted a registered account on your server could get one with the insane amount of SA's you guys had. But it's just as likely to be anyone else who doesn't like you, or even just some random 14 year old playing with a new script who stumbled across a big vulnerable ts server.
Translation: yes, it probably was a Goon who hacked your server, but it's your fault....
What a pathetic justification - it's like saying "Sorry, shopkeeper, it's not my fault I stole from you - it's your fault for having a shop". Perhaps they could have been more secure voice comms, but it's the despicable metagaming and griefing from you player base that is to 'blame'. Get a decent excuse next time.
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Tress Macneille
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tress Macneille yeah we did that
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Translation: yes, it probably was a Goon who hacked your server, but it's your fault....
What a pathetic justification - it's like saying "Sorry, shopkeeper, it's not my fault I stole from you - it's your fault for having a shop". Perhaps they could have been more secure voice comms, but it's the despicable metagaming and griefing from you player base that is to 'blame'. Get a decent excuse next time.
I'm so glad you came to the party. :) Seriously though, even guys that were there are admitting they weren't "hacked". That word gets kicked around a lot here but again, giving out SA to a spy is hardly the same thing as being hacked. It may be semantics to you, but it's the truth. To further your analogy, maybe the shopkeeper should try closing and locking his doors and not hiring ex-convicts. Yes, I just compared my compatriots to ex-convicts.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin JUST because it happened when you were fighting Goon, doesn't mean it WAS Goon, ...
The hacking took place just as RK/Smash fleet warped into a huge furball of a fight with the Goons... as in Goonswarm.
You can believe in coincidences if you want. I'll let the Eve community come to their own conclusions.
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:11:00 -
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Sure, if you like fantasy, but otherwise the bulk of both of our fleets were in our own POS at the time.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:11:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine Yes, I just compared my compatriots to ex-convicts.
Thank you for providing proof that Goons using alts have spies in other Alliances that will attack TS servers causing them to crash.
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:14:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine Yes, I just compared my compatriots to ex-convicts.
Thank you for providing proof that Goons using alts have spies in other Alliances that will attack TS servers causing them to crash.
Thank you for again failing to distinguish between hacking and spying. It's like buying drugs from an undercover cop. Just because the cop tricked you doesn't absolve you of your gullibility.
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BobbySteelz
Dirty Deedz
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:23:00 -
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wow goons being what they and everyone associated with them are... scum. They talk all bad about bob, yet they stoop just as low in terms of meta-gaming/tactics.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:24:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine Yes, I just compared my compatriots to ex-convicts.
Thank you for providing proof that Goons using alts have spies in other Alliances that will attack TS servers causing them to crash.
Thank you for again failing to distinguish between hacking and spying. It's like buying drugs from an undercover cop. Just because the cop tricked you doesn't absolve you of your gullibility.
Denial of service attacks is not hacking....and I am not saying Goons are hacking TS servers in the true since of that word.
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Tress Macneille
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tress Macneille yeah we did that
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise ]Denial of service attacks is not hacking....and I am not saying Goons are hacking TS servers in the true since of that word.
Oh gosh I just love semantics. Logging in as an admin and kick/banning people is not a Denial of Service attack. Either show real tangible proof from the TS host server of ICMP flooding or anything else that constitutes a real DOS attack or just admit that you're a crying baby with no real grasp of what you're talking about.
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine Yes, I just compared my compatriots to ex-convicts.
Thank you for providing proof that Goons using alts have spies in other Alliances that will attack TS servers causing them to crash.
They generally weren't GS alts, they were mostly legitimate roadkill who hated peoke and were willing to see their alliance burn to take a shit on him. Some were smash who had a grudge with roadkill. Some were people who were sick of the leadership and gave intel thinking I'd let them get their stuff out of a station we took. It was pretty hilarious, but that's what I'm trying to get at. There were bigger internal grudges within smashkill than probably anyone in Goonswarm had towards anyone in smashkill... besides peoke.
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MONOCERUS
Strength Of New Ubik Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:33:00 -
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goons command activity in-topic = OP is true
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:34:00 -
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The service denial attack took place just as RK/Smash fleet warped into a huge furball of a fight with the Goons... as in Goonswarm.
You can believe in coincidences if you want. I'll let the Eve community come to their own conclusions.
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Hesh Ballantine
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise The service denial attack took place just as RK/Smash fleet warped into a huge furball of a fight with the Goons... as in Goonswarm.
You can believe in coincidences if you want. I'll let the Eve community come to their own conclusions.
The EVE community came to their own conclusions about us long ago and we stopped caring long before that. Since you've consistently demonstrated that you're completely clueless I hope you'll lock this thread now while the rest of EVE ponders the truly convincing case you've put forward here.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:38:00 -
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Dear god, the amount of Goon damage limitation in this thread is ridiculous. I've never seen them leap onto a thread quite so fast to try to shut it down.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:38:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine The EVE community came to their own conclusions about us long ago and we stopped caring long before that ...
You got that right.
Keep bumping this thread though so more people can see your tactics.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:41:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 21/07/2008 21:41:08 Did one of our spies really do that?
lol -clp
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:43:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise The service denial attack took place just as RK/Smash fleet warped into a huge furball of a fight with the Goons... as in Goonswarm.
You can believe in coincidences if you want. I'll let the Eve community come to their own conclusions.
And since when is that a surprise?
Goons always did and always do that sort of metagaming sh*t. It is not the first time and it won't be the last time.
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:45:00 -
[46]
lol@quoting and agreeing with yourself on an alt
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Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:46:00 -
[47]
Maybe it was a spy in goonswarm seeking to tarnish our flawless internet reputation. :tinfoil: --
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:47:00 -
[48]
Guys guys we really should do like FIX who hated metagaming and then allied with became a BoB pet. -clp
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Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Dear god, the amount of Goon damage limitation in this thread is ridiculous. I've never seen them leap onto a thread quite so fast to try to shut it down.
No we are bumping it to the top of the page because we find it funny.
Here is another bump for the op. --
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:53:00 -
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Not surprising.
I hate metagamers. |
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n00b alt3
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:55:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Scavok
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine Yes, I just compared my compatriots to ex-convicts.
Thank you for providing proof that Goons using alts have spies in other Alliances that will attack TS servers causing them to crash.
They generally weren't GS alts, they were mostly legitimate roadkill who hated peoke and were willing to see their alliance burn to take a shit on him. Some were smash who had a grudge with roadkill. Some were people who were sick of the leadership and gave intel thinking I'd let them get their stuff out of a station we took. It was pretty hilarious, but that's what I'm trying to get at. There were bigger internal grudges within smashkill than probably anyone in Goonswarm had towards anyone in smashkill... besides peoke.
not to mention various spies from other alliances that probably stirred up the shit even more.
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Reapeat Offender
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:56:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Hesh Ballantine The EVE community came to their own conclusions about us long ago and we stopped caring long before that ...
You got that right.
Keep bumping this thread though so more people can see your tactics.
Bump
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 21:56:00 -
[53]
Originally by: TWD Not surprising.
I hate metagamers.
Since you're in BoB, I assume this post is meant to be ironic.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:00:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Zeitgueist
Originally by: TWD Not surprising.
I hate metagamers.
Since you're in BoB, I assume this post is meant to be ironic.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:23:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Tress Macneille
Originally by: Tress Macneille yeah we did that
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Ni Gaplees
Minmatar 420 join a corp every day
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:24:00 -
[56]
NOES THEY ARE HAXXORING OUR AI PEES
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Severe Admin
Blind Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:28:00 -
[57]
actually what usually happens is a group of the less obese goons (there is not many) form a stealth gang and break into the location where the physical server holds your ts connection. They then wizz all over it and make a break for freedom.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:30:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Severe Admin actually what usually happens is a group of the less obese goons (there is not many) form a stealth gang and break into the location where the physical server holds your ts connection. They then wizz all over it and make a break for freedom.
Originally by: Tress Macneille
Originally by: Tress Macneille yeah we did that
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Ni Gaplees
Minmatar 420 join a corp every day
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:35:00 -
[59]
I hear BoB's TS server is being attacked by drunk nerds and teenagers c/d? this is a serious issue
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:39:00 -
[60]
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Atiro Kali
Caldari XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.07.21 22:53:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 21/07/2008 21:06:09
Originally by: Grath Telkin JUST because it happened when you were fighting Goon, doesn't mean it WAS Goon, ...
The 'hacking' (or service denial attack) took place just as RK/Smash fleet warped into a huge furball of a fight with the Goons... as in Goonswarm.
You can believe in coincidences if you want. I'll let the Eve community come to their own conclusions.
I hate to speak form a knowledgable stance but its actually called a Denial of Service attack or DOS attack, and this comes from flooding a server with random bits of data NOT form logging in and out of a server 10 times.
But did goonies resort to BoBesk tactics to further promote their own method of victory? Probably. Which makes me laugh seeing as their stance on why BoB was evil for doing metagaming just like this...
I personally see the swarm as the same as BoB (I think most of the community do now) just not as clever or skilled. Its a shame such small men need to do such things to achieve "victory" in a video game, and not by skill alone. In the end its a game, if you need to cheat to win then its not a win...its a cheat and I would rather lose honorably then win because I cheated.
-steps off his soap box and smiles at all the goonie crap that will spill forth much like the vomat from a man that drank too much-
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Talitana
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:10:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Tress Macneille yeah we did that
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Smokie McLottapot
Caldari Keepers Of The Gate
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:12:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Zeitgueist We're hacking you with our own custom version of AOHell 2.0, true story.
I prefered Fate myself :)
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:12:00 -
[64]
I think we did that, yeah. -clp
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Vecila
Live and Learn Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:13:00 -
[65]
Simple script is all it takes to auto ban bots trying to flood a server. Why would you make the effort to ban ips like that when the server could do it for you O.o
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:15:00 -
[66]
seriously, when will you goonies stop!? Do you have no morals of decency!?! This is just a game and to prove my point I will kill you IRL (=in real life!!!) because NO ONE GETS BETWEEN ME AND MY ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!!!
sO take this metagaming sh*t and go home! Stupid goonies!!!!! Begone! -clp
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:37:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Atiro Kali
I hate to speak form a knowledgable stance but its actually called a Denial of Service attack or DOS attack, and this comes from flooding a server with random bits of data NOT form logging in and out of a server 10 times.
But did goonies resort to BoBesk tactics to further promote their own method of victory? Probably. Which makes me laugh seeing as their stance on why BoB was evil for doing metagaming just like this...
I personally see the swarm as the same as BoB (I think most of the community do now) just not as clever or skilled. Its a shame such small men need to do such things to achieve "victory" in a video game, and not by skill alone. In the end its a game, if you need to cheat to win then its not a win...its a cheat and I would rather lose honorably then win because I cheated.
-steps off his soap box and smiles at all the goonie crap that will spill forth much like the vomat from a man that drank too much-
knowledgeable BoB-esque vomit
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:39:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise The service denial attack took place just as RK/Smash fleet warped into a huge furball of a fight with the Goons... as in Goonswarm.
You can believe in coincidences if you want. I'll let the Eve community come to their own conclusions.
Quoting the worst goon alt troll.
I don't even know why any spies could be bothered being in smashkill. All I got on intel channels was either endless complaints about Peoke, the 100% tax weekends or people acting like muppets. You were stabbed in the back by your own members and you want to blame GS for it.
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Kaaii
Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:40:00 -
[69]
When they can't beat you......
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Vertigel Symorain
Eidolon Yards
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:43:00 -
[70]
You guys know thwere is a saying: "Proof or STFU". From reading this post and similar/related posts, I haven't seen anyone posting proper proof of foul play. It appears to me that the OP is not the admin of the TS in question. If he was he should be able to get logs to underpin his claims. Obviously posting the actual IPs could get you in trouble, but it shouldn't be a big problem to sencor that info from the logs.
If there have indeed been foul play, wich if we beleive the OP reports, seems likely, it's a bit odd to me that the people in charge of the alliance comms system didn't prepare for such a thing, as it has been claimed earlier by other ppl that Goons may resort to such actions.
Bottom line: Goons: If you did this.. Shame on you! Metagaming is just uncool. OP et all: If you can't proove it... Shame on you for bringing up false, or atleast unproovable acusations. -VS- |
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Akov Stohs
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:49:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Trind2222
By the way I don't like goons but I know how far they will go.
Funny, I don't think even they know how far they'd go...
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:51:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus seriously, when will you goonies stop!? Do you have no morals of decency!?! This is just a game and to prove my point I will kill you IRL (=in real life!!!) because NO ONE GETS BETWEEN ME AND MY ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!!!
sO take this metagaming sh*t and go home! Stupid goonies!!!!! Begone!
Well apparently it's serious enough for Goonfleet to spend hours infiltrating out of game voice chat....
I totally agree - it's pathetic.
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:56:00 -
[73]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus seriously, when will you goonies stop!? Do you have no morals of decency!?! This is just a game and to prove my point I will kill you IRL (=in real life!!!) because NO ONE GETS BETWEEN ME AND MY ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!!!
sO take this metagaming sh*t and go home! Stupid goonies!!!!! Begone!
Well apparently it's serious enough for Goonfleet to spend hours infiltrating out of game voice chat....
I totally agree - it's pathetic.
Why so angry Windypops?
oh right we totally killed whatever alliance you belong to.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:56:00 -
[74]
Originally by: General Windypops
I totally agree - I'm pathetic.
This is totally the first true thing you have ever uttered.
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Akov Stohs
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.21 23:58:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Atiro Kali
I hate to speak form a knowledgable stance but its actually called a Denial of Service attack or DOS attack, and this comes from flooding a server with random bits of data NOT form logging in and out of a server 10 times.
Really, a DoS is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users. Through what ever means that is executed its still a DoS. People sending Random bits of data stopped being effective around windows 98 era, Now days its specifically crafted data or actions that cause the servers in question to react in a way that limits their normal operation.
Not saying anything beyond that I really don't think you know much about the topic which you spoke from a knowledgeable stance.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:01:00 -
[76]
Hey Stahl and Grath I notice you guys almost always post at exactly the same time - do you guys share a flat or something?
I think it's really neat the way you always back each other up on the forums.
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RaV1N
Caldari The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:03:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Vertigel Symorain You guys know thwere is a saying: "Proof or STFU". From reading this post and similar/related posts, I haven't seen anyone posting proper proof of foul play. It appears to me that the OP is not the admin of the TS in question. If he was he should be able to get logs to underpin his claims. Obviously posting the actual IPs could get you in trouble, but it shouldn't be a big problem to sencor that info from the logs.
If there have indeed been foul play, wich if we beleive the OP reports, seems likely, it's a bit odd to me that the people in charge of the alliance comms system didn't prepare for such a thing, as it has been claimed earlier by other ppl that Goons may resort to such actions.
Bottom line: Goons: If you did this.. Shame on you! Metagaming is just uncool. OP et all: If you can't proove it... Shame on you for bringing up false, or atleast unproovable acusations.
I don't know why this keeps coming up, they were on there, there was no DOS attack but they were on there in droves. It was a bit of fun in the end to send out false reports to watch them warp to one gate or another in BWF.
The goon that said we had to many SA, this is correct and caused a spy to create a complete new admin account which then opened the gates.
As for proof, no I don't have that but I removed several of them myself.......not proof but I was there.
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Toffles
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:03:00 -
[78]
LOLOLOLOrololool!!!11 ur just upset because you got yo 4ss handed to u by gs h4x squad. maybe next time ul learn2hack and not get pwn3d like little nubb1ns, MMMmmm (<---im licking ur tears) pwn3d, just pwn3d.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:05:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Toffles LOLOLOLOrololool!!!11 ur just upset because you got yo 4ss handed to u by gs h4x squad. maybe next time ul learn2hack and not get pwn3d like little nubb1ns, MMMmmm (<---im licking ur tears) pwn3d, just pwn3d.
TBH if Goonfleet hadn't responded to this thread I think we'd have considered it a coincidence. The sheer amount of desperate posts they're making seem to suggest otherwise.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:11:00 -
[80]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Toffles LOLOLOLOrololool!!!11 ur just upset because you got yo 4ss handed to u by gs h4x squad. maybe next time ul learn2hack and not get pwn3d like little nubb1ns, MMMmmm (<---im licking ur tears) pwn3d, just pwn3d.
I'm outraged that people from a forum based community would post on an internet spaceship forum. Clearly it's a conspiracy.
Quoting the truth.
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:17:00 -
[81]
Originally by: General Windypops
TBH if Goonfleet hadn't responded to this thread I think we'd have considered it a coincidence. The sheer amount of desperate posts they're making seem to suggest otherwise.
Yes, history has shown that if goons post in a thread, it must be true.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:17:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Toffles LOLOLOLOrololool!!!11 ur just upset because you got yo 4ss handed to u by gs h4x squad. maybe next time ul learn2hack and not get pwn3d like little nubb1ns, MMMmmm (<---im licking ur tears) pwn3d, just pwn3d.
I'm outraged that people from a forum based community would post on an internet spaceship forum. Clearly it's a conspiracy.
Quoting the truth.
I guess most of us are surprised that your laid back 'unique culture and edgy sense of humour' has become so serious that you have to resort to attacks on out of game voice chat.
You guys should chill out more - it's just a game.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:22:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Devian 666 on 22/07/2008 00:22:44 Edited by: Devian 666 on 22/07/2008 00:22:13
Originally by: General Windypops I guess most of us are surprised that your laid back 'unique culture and edgy sense of humour' has become so serious that you have to resort to attacks on out of game voice chat.
You guys should chill out more - it's just a game.
Quoting statements based on no evidence.
If you're basing your statements on those of Fitz. You have to remember that he was confused as to why his corp was kicked out of Smash.
Edit: for conspiracy.
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 00:28:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Kaaii
When they can't beat you......
They post that you hacked them?
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.22 01:11:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 22/07/2008 01:14:16 Edited by: Grath Telkin on 22/07/2008 01:13:32
Originally by: General Windypops Hey Stahl and Grath I notice you guys almost always post at exactly the same time - do you guys share a flat or something?
I think it's really neat the way you always back each other up on the forums.
Nice, now I can tell all my friends I'm really the only one this crazy.
Also, flat?
Also, now I'm looking up all of Stahl's posts to see if your right.
Edit: your ******ed, his post and mine are in no way really related at all. I really am the only one this crazy. 2nd Edit: ******ed is a filtered word? wtf
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BoB sucks
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.07.22 01:16:00 -
[86]
Originally by: General Windypops Dear god, the amount of Goon damage limitation in this thread is ridiculous. I've never seen them leap onto a thread quite so fast to try to shut it down.
Have you not read every other thread in COAD?
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Richard Angevian
The Crusaders.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 02:17:00 -
[87]
Given that the goons sanctioned the "jihadswarm" and now they are allegedly hacking TS server(s) would it be a fair accusation that they support terrorism within EVE?
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Mud Pandemonium
Minmatar Trainwreck INC.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 02:28:00 -
[88]
Goons hacked my VCR, I know because my Robocop 2 VHS was eaten the moment I saw a goon in Rens.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.22 02:42:00 -
[89]
Goons hacked my new LCD TV, I took it out of the box and plugged it in, and all it would display is an endless loop of Tubgirl.
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"PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Richard Angevian
The Crusaders.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 02:43:00 -
[90]
Imagine if the twin hurricanes of Goon and Bob spin ever met... You'd get the super EMO storm of world destruction.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 02:52:00 -
[91]
Goons hacked our ts and forums. They're both overrun with goons.
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
Mud Pandemonium
Minmatar Trainwreck INC.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 03:55:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Devian 666 Goons hacked our ts and forums. They're both overrun with goons.
I'm so tired of these baseless accusations, really.
Do you have any proof at all? Any? No you don't. You're just throwing around slander like it's a fire-sale at Big Bobs House of Lies.
Goons are fine upstanding gentlebees who help little old ladies cross the freeway and they never forget to recycle their ***** covered socks.
You should post more.
I think before my days are done, I want to be a fisherman. |
Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.22 04:04:00 -
[93]
goon blackops stole my fukken gnomes
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Shadow Goon
Caldari Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.07.22 04:17:00 -
[94]
The goons tuched me there and there and there and there and there and there and there and there and there and there.
points at a Doll.
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 04:30:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Mud Pandemonium
Originally by: Devian 666 Goons hacked our ts and forums. They're both overrun with goons.
I'm so tired of these baseless accusations, really.
Do you have any proof at all? Any? No you don't. You're just throwing around slander like it's a fire-sale at Big Bobs House of Lies.
Goons are fine upstanding gentlebees who help little old ladies cross the freeway and they never forget to recycle their ***** covered socks.
You should post more.
How can you say that when a goon fc took command of our fleet and we all died?
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
Tress Macneille
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 05:06:00 -
[96]
hack the geminate
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2008.07.22 05:39:00 -
[97]
Use Eve-Voice.
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Baaldor
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 06:07:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Viqtoria goon blackops stole my fukken gnomes
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Prof Patpending
Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.07.22 06:42:00 -
[99]
See people you just don't 'get' Goons.
Hurf Blurf serious business blah blah. You seem to be missing an important clue here. Goons get a rise out of making non Goons weep sweet etears and whether or not they ddos'd or "hacked" anything is irrelevant when either way they are having their fun watching you rant and cry on teh internets.
This taken into account would justify why so many of them are posting and why they are posting flame bait. Its to get you to flame and cry and rage harder so they get bigger laughs.
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Baaltazar
Beach Boys BeachBoys
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:07:00 -
[100]
LetÆs clear one thing:
TS server broking not because in the appropriate moment server owners fight whit goons but because:
1.Owners are cheap and donÆt have money for good server 2.EveryoneÆs heat server owners and wish them death 3.ààààààààààààà. 4.ààààààààààààà 5.ààààààààààààà
Clear space are for some more explanation why TS broking in exact time when goons have fleet fight whit servers owners but still goonswarm have nothing to do whit such horrible metagaming And from myself I add that goonswarm are well known form they hate to all forms off metagaming and condemning it on every corner.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:08:00 -
[101]
It's true, we don't like metagaming. -clp
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:08:00 -
[102]
The goons suck... www.garia.net |
Psilocin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:15:00 -
[103]
Sorry guys, we were too busy using lag bombs and other ingame hax to do anything to your TS server.
FOFOFOOOO! |
Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:28:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Gnulpie Use Eve-Voice.
We will just hack that too.
We are the best hackers -----------
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Prof Patpending
Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.07.22 07:55:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Gnulpie Use Eve-Voice.
We will just hack that too.
We are the best hackers
Confirmed, they haxed muh megahurtz :(
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.07.22 08:39:00 -
[106]
Thread locked.
Hacking or alleged hacking of Teamspeak servers is outside of EVE game mechanics and has no relevance to CAOD.
Navigator Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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